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Well placed due to fuel load from what I read
But I know nought about F1 these days. I prefered it when the winner was the chap whose car didn't explode |
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Ennis on Lovejoy's program on BBC2 now.
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nice plug at the end of programme :)
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Its only September, people will be bored senseless of her by the time the show is on.
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It is September. Not even mid September.
good ere innit? |
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Don't see how Button can win if Hamilton couldn't?
At least Lewis has some charisma and flamboyance in his driving style. Don't want to mention the dreaded 'R' word and risk being reported but no other way Button could succeed where Hamilton fails IMO |
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charisma and flamboyance
Might have something to do with it M'lady People just do not warm to Hamilton |
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have you ever watched him drive?
drives the arse of his car every single lap of every race no matter how good or poor it is Button the bum's more like my granny out for her Sunday afternoon cruise in the countryside in comparison... |
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And the voters really give a flying fvck how the drive the car?
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they*
I remember Prost and Piquet. Dull as dishwater compared to Mansell we were told. Won 8 titles between them iirc |
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Probably wouldn't help the Flintoff campaign
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/8254415.stm |
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what a choice..
a) Sign up for IPL for 1.55M b) Sign up to England for 50K, lose half the 1.55M and upset SPOTY backers |
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I think an important factor is that Ennis is this years Hoy and Button is this years Hamilton - OK Button might have more personality than Hamilton but Hoy trounced Hamilton by 120,000 votes last year.
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1st Chris Hoy (cycling) 283,630
2nd Lewis Hamilton (Formula 1) 163,864 3rd Rebecca Adlington (swimming) 145,924 4th Ben Ainslie (sailing) 35,472 5th Joe Calzaghe (boxing) 34,077 6th Andy Murray (tennis) 19,415 7th Nicole Cooke (cycling) 18,256 8th Christine Ohuruogu (athletics) 7,677 9th Bradley Wiggins (cycling) 5,633 10th Rebecca Romero (cycling) 4,526 Total votes cast: 718,474 Last year's results certainly show how important it is to be 'hyped' as a real contender for the award. Beyond 3rd the rest were nowhere. It would seem to me that Ennis and Button will be hyped as the contenders. Home win for the BBC It looks like a straight shoot-out between two to me. Button will do well, I'm sure, but quite a few will like a lady, and one who doesn't drive a brum brum car. Strauss or Broad are the unknowns I suppose. How many votes were cast in 2005 for Flintoff seems to be a mystery, but he was up against Michael Vaughan in a shortlist of 6. But we can all see the differences between the achievement and profile of that series compared to this one. |
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Broad interests me a bit - his profile is really high. And all the girls seem to love him and lots of housewives vote in this.
One thing that will count against him and Strauss though imo is that they won't be there on the night assuming that they are both fit to tour South Africa. On the flipside though they could have put in some impressive performances just before SPOTY (or not). |
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Do you think that's likely AM? ;-)
Personally I think someone has the Broad and Flintoff prices mixed up. I think the former is a good bet to beat Strauss to third place |
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don't think Broad has anywhere near the profile that Freddie had in 2005
and didn't actually do anything except for one innings at the Oval! |
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I don't think you'll find me arguing that he has.
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I dont think you can compare last year with this year. There were 3 people last year who were head and shoulders over the rest of the field (well 2 plus Hamilton imo)
I'm a big athletics fan. It's my favourite sport but I know I'm very much in the minority and I also know the sport isnt in anywhere near the same consciousness with the public as it was in the 80s and 90s and only the Olympics really resonates with the public now. When Paula Radcliffe won the World Marathon Gold in 2005 (our only athletics gold from memory) and it was public nominations she didnt even make the 5 person shortlist of Flintoff MacCarthur Gerrard ????? and Hatton. The other thing that worries me is that Idowu also won a gold so Ennis's achievement isn't unique although clearly she has a much warmer personality. I hate motor racing and Button's method of victory shows the sport off for what it is, a sport like equine jobs where you cant win if you havent got the best vehicle but the public have shown themselves to be complete melons when it comes to motor racing and equestrianism in the past few years. Its a weak year in terms of outstanding individual achievement/personalities obviously but I don't think it's a weak year for British sport. The cricket team have won The Ashes (but not in style) and the English football team have qualified for the WC like never before. We've had our best Tour De France since I can remember and our first ever male tennis world number 2. We've got 2 athletics world champions, a few boxing world champions, the greatest ever darts player on blistering form and the youngest ever? World Champion from GB at 15y 2m in Tom Daley. But the award will probably end up with the fellow driving the fastest car. Shocking innit. Personally I think the voting will be shared amongst all 10 like never before and that will probably help the motor racing driver and the very strong petrol head vote. |
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Personally I think it will be a disgrace if a footballer doesnt make the shortlist. Its our national sport, it's easily the most competitive sport in the world and the England team has had a great year. If the sports editors put a cricketer in the line up (for fortuitously beating the weakest Aussie team for a decade and getting hammered in the one days) without putting a footballer in shame on them
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Capello nailed on for overseas personality of the year or will Bolt get it again?
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Clydebank - excellent point about the year the national footy team have had but which individual player would you go for?
Gerrard - should still be banged up in Dec not at SPOTY Terry - bit of a thug Rooney - ditto and face to scare off female voters Lampard - too many anti-Chelsea fat frank haters Rio - too bling Becks - past it, ageing has been Heskey - LOL!!!!! Crouchie - maybe SCD for the robot... I think the fact that the England team collectively have had great year under Monsieur Capello and won back some respect and affection from the public can't hide the fact that individually even the most hardcore fans like myself still hold the players in utter contempt for their inflated wages, nightclub antics and the general way they carry on. |
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Capello coach of the year most likely. Not even a contender for the Overseas award
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I'll lay you Capello any time M'Lady ;-)
What a lot of nonsense on the football Clyde. Plenty of chance for them to make a mark next year. If they reach the final, maybe even the semi with the usual hard luck story I would fully expect a footballer to win then. This year they've only achieved what should be expected of them. |
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Lady Margaret 14 Sep 13:47
Don't see how Button can win if Hamilton couldn't? At least Lewis has some charisma and flamboyance in his driving style. Don't want to mention the dreaded 'R' word and risk being reported but no other way Button could succeed where Hamilton fails IMO hamilton would make a good getaway driver, button can drive me to work hth :) |
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beckham beat the outfield cap record and might not make it to next years
world cup finals get him in :) |
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Personally I think Rooney should make the shortlist since the obv alternative is Gerrard and the court case should rule him out. Just because they get paid a lot isnt a valid reason for not choosing them imo. Lewis Hamilton probably gets paid even more.
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George the reason a footballer might not make the shortlist is due to stuck up views such as yours
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Shame there isn't a top ten market, would have layed you that Clyde. There ought to have been really; too late now
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All the better for it then Clyde
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George I'm saying who I think should make the shortlist not will. If there was a shortlist market the person I'd be laying is Flintoff. Ah but hang on it's ok for a cricketter to be a lager swilling lout but if a footballer makes a fool of himself he's an overpaid w@nker.
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Yeah, and I'm just replying that the shortlist will be better off this year for not having one. Maybe I even think there's more chance of Rooney making the ten than you; I'd put it about 4-5
I'm not a big England fan, but hopefully the list will be inunated with them next year. This year the major achievement is beating a seaside resort nation with a population less than Scotland twice |
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And we do agree on FF. 9 should be the price to shortlist!
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Freddie has told the ECB to stick it
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I wonder if they might offer that contract to GBH now...
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McCoy wont be anywhere near the top 10 shortlist.
Shame there is no top 10 market, he would be somewhere near even money in it. |
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I wouldn't be so sure seanvice. Seb Sanders failed by one place (he was 11th in the nominations list) to make the shortlist two or three years ago.
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I've got 50-1 on McCoy making the top 10.... posted on my blog last Christmas. I know a few others have followed me in...I reckon it is an even money chance now.
http://kickingbets.blogspot.com |
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Dunno what sort of lunatic layed you that Chris, but well done. Have you never asked for a top ten market to lay off?
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yea that was mad odds Chris, it was blue s wasnt it?
I just missed that. |