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The ladies have two definite runners . Doubt if there will be another.
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Button will win. Only thing that stopped Hamilton from winning was the taxman, his ethnicity and the fact he was up against Olympic Gold Medalists and an undefeated Welsh housewives choice. Button on the other hand is a good looking white guy who won in a sport that often produces the SPOTY
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Why should Murray get on the list? He has failed in the Slams again. Winning tour events not enough imo. And Wiggins has to be nominated alongside Cavendish - a far greater achievement to finish 4th in the general classification. I don't see Khan making the list.
Button Ennis Tweddle Strauss Flintoff Cavendish Wiggins Idowu Daley McCoy Button will only win if the BBC do a really gushing hard sell of his achievement. F1 is uninteresting to the general public these days - just look at the outrage when they left those three bores droning on last Sat in the rain, when everyone wanted to watch SCD. Ennis is the new glamour girl of British athletics and the face of London 2012. She has a great chance of beating Button in a popular vote. |
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F1 has a good history in producing SPOTY winners or runners up.
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Murray no.2 in the world however briefly. A cert for the list imo.
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F1 is uninteresting to the general public these days -
If you look hard on the net you will find viewing figures for sporting events. After that is done and if your statement is correct then you would need to wonder how many people managed to switch on F1 by mistake. |
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In todays mirror*, Derek McGovern says Button will not win it. So there you are! His argument being...
Do ordinary Brits like you and I want to reward a man who spends half his spare time bedding supermodels and the other half bedding super-duper models? I think not. At least last year's winner Chris Hoy settled for riding bikes. "I'm world champion. I am just going to keep on saying those words over and over again," said Button on Sunday, and you have to admit it's one hell of a chat-up line. Why should we hero-worship a man just for driving a car fast (at least for half the season)? That name Jenson Button - it speaks more of bouncy castles than speed. Button seems to have shortened a bit more than this amateur thought, surely he cant get any shorter. Hopefully the time off will do Murray good, and a win in the ATP at the 02 can shorten him up a bit. |
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*I don't buy the Mirror. I came accross this article by mistake.
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johnnyrant 20 Oct 22:22
Button will only win if the BBC do a really gushing hard sell of his achievement. They will, because it's one of 'their' sports, and he is such a 'beeb' personality anyway. If people like Mansell and Hill can win it, then Button should be 1.1 for this. |
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Still got the problem that it was one of the least memorable moments in British sports history ever imo.
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I'm very surpised that Dwain Chambers isn't even in the market. Could be a dcent outside bet. The comeback kid / triumph in the face of adversity / a role model to the youth of today
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I think things look good for Button. IIRC every UK F1 champ has won SPOTY, except Hamilton and he was runner up twice.
Anyone know if theres a gymnastic event for Ennis between now and 13/12? |
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James Hunt lost out to John Curry in 1976. Odd.
An F1 driver has of course never won with public vote ;-) |
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btw, Ennis looks capable of bedroom gymnastics Henry. Not sure about other sorts
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Remind me chaps, is there a partial settlement on this one after the shortlist?
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Gymnastics, athletics, it's all Greek to me.
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No partial settlement last year George.
Must admit I am surprised Jenson has gone from 2.3 to 1.7 on the basis of his win. Looks low to me, but he is rightly favourite. |
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2 would sound about right to me AM. But having layed him at 1.6 - 1.8 I would say that :-)
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Curious one for me was he was 1.25 - 1.3 for top 3, when he was 1.14 for the title
I backed this heavily while laying for the title. Layed off at 1.04 -1.05 |
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An F1 driver has of course never won with public vote
I'm not with you George, hasn't SPOTY always been decided by public vote? |
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An F1 driver has of course never won with public vote
I'm not with you George, hasn't SPOTY always been decided by public vote? Think George is correct that it used to be the great and good of the BBC Sports Dept who decided the winner until about 10 years ago when they realised phone lines could bring in some dosh. |
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Nope, it was always public vote.
Phone votes came in around 13-15 years ago. Before that it was postal votes. |
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Used to vote from a shortlist of about 6 by postcard I think.
Only in recent years has it been phone voting specifically on the night - thus giving more weight to the show in terms of the winner. |
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My mistake. I guess with Steve Davis winning how else could it be anything other than the public at fault?
Hunt must have had bad karma, compared to Curry. If only the public had known ;-) |
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Re voting scandals
Restore Bob Nudd!!! That's what I say |
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old days no short list, regional black votes thrown out :^0
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*block votes :)
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I should think so donny. Black votes are surely still thrown out
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Nick Griffin presumably supplying his 10 this evening
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Idowu isn't gonna be on his shortlist.
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He can maybe join the party, but can't rely on their vote
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Re the public vote debate, the BBC have overlooked several
winners who weren't deemed to be acceptable winners of the award. Eddie the Eagle was one. He won by a landslide back in 88 but the BBC decided to give the award to Steve Davis. |
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Assuming truth in that how ironic they should decide to give it to Davis lol
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interesting
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Giggs 66 /1 with ladcrooks less to lay on here , no lose situation.
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epicurean 23 Oct 17:58
Giggs 66 /1 with ladcrooks less to lay on here , no lose situation. He is a crazy price. I have not bothered with the arb, a simply lay will do the trick. |
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Agree Alex . Sustained support here as got me puzzled though .
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I think of all the sports these days F1 looks out of kilter with the prevailing economic mood of the country and accordingly Button will have trouble getting traction with the public.
Today it was reported that he has turned down a £6m contract from Brawn as he is holding out for £8m with Mclaren waiting in the wings with a £8m contract. I understand that Button is the UK's richest sporting star under the age of 30 so he hardly embodies today's new economic reality. As someone who backed Lewis Hamilton for SPOTY in 2007 at 25-1 I got a bit twitchy when he announced that he was moving to Switzerland. Button of course has lived in Monaco as a tax exile for many years, so how will the public vote for a multi millionaire tax exile with mercenary tendencies fair in comparison to a more humble McCoy, Ennis or Tweddle. I may be thinking about it to much of course. |
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Good point .I think Ennis should be fav with the winner being announced by the BBC in Sheffield her home town ,coincidence . Still puzzled by the apparent mug money for Giggs .
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Still puzzled by the apparent mug money for Giggs .
I am guessing now that somebody must know or have guessed that he will make it to the list of qualifiers who of course are not chosen via a phone vote. He as been matched as low as 3.0 to be in the top 3! |