Giggs for spoty

Wales is a small place

Alex the old wrinkled retainer 05 Dec 10:19
This market is not about making a judgement on the achievements present or past. It is about making a judgement on how many people will pick up their phones and what number they will dial.


GeorgeBrush 05 Dec 07:27
Probably won't bother CC. Looks a likely winner to me, particularly since I saw the Guardian poll. It all looks very tight there, but Giggs is the only one with an organised group of supporters ready to pile in on the night.

Does facebook membership equate to picking up the phone on a Sunday night and voting for Giggs. Like the RATM no.1 campaign I suspect that facebook group membership and actual voting/buying will be very different. If you could have voted before Sunday night I'd say Giggs was a sound back but they don't open voting until 7pm in order to stop these very orchestrated campaigns. If you're on at 25/1 and above though it is a very different story although I'd be tempted to cash in now.

GL anyway.

Button's largest group is actually 559.

philip glass 11 Dec 12:28
Wales is a small place



Population 3m.

The home game tomorrow evening is a handily timed reminder to vote...

Cider 11 Dec 12:37
The home game tomorrow evening is a handily timed reminder to vote...




Listen out for what the announcer says to the crowd.

Alex the Welsh vote was very different. They had a week to vote for him not 2 hours.

1 for BECKY BREWERTON - WHO?
2 for NATHAN CLEVERLY- WHO?
3 for RYAN GIGGS
4 for LOUISE RICKARD - WHO?
5 for JAMIE ROBERTS- (third)
6 for GERAINT THOMAS - WHO? (2nd)

Calls cost 15p from a BT landline. Mobiles and other networks may be higher. Lines are open from 08.00 to 20.00 each day, Monday 30 November to Saturday 5 December when they finally close at 20.00.

Voting not limited to wales either.

Maybe something in the programme as well. For me Giggs is in the right spot as 2nd fav with the information we have at the moment. Nobody knows what exactly what impact xf will have on the voting, or of course the edit (altho we can be pretty sure F1 will get a good one, but they have MOTD too).

Look back at the Calzaghe win in 2007. I don't think that it would be smart to carry a red on Giggs.

Given that Cycling organised very effectively last year what are the chances of them doing so again but for a single candidate not four. Granted there isn't the Scottish vote behind him and the IOM probably has less of a voting block.

Hell of a lot of active cyclists in Britain who know all about Cav and who would be less inclined to be sitting in watching the X factor. Decent price imo

In my cyber travels Cavendish's name came up much more than I expected. I would expect him to be in the top 3 along with Button and Giggs, but he could miss out if the home support for Ennis in Sheffield gets her into the top 3.

None of us can be sure whether the Man U and Welsh support will translate into votes. My instinct is that it will do massively, but I could be totally wrong, in which case I'll take it on the chin. But if he does romp the vote and I don't win big I'll be as mad as hell because in hindsight it will all look so blindingly obvious.

I dont expect Cav to come anywhere near the top 3.

My pick to upset the 3 favs and grab 3rd spot would be Beth Tweddle.

what is the motivation to vote for Button please?

Hope you're right Seanvice - when I read the following story about her not getting a phone call from the Prime Minister I backed her for top 3.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article6881563.ece

I also thought the following line was very powerful

perhaps the greatest feat ever achieved by a British athlete of either sex in the history of indoor sports.

from this article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/oct/20/beth-tweddle-jenson-button

Trouble is deserving or not, I have picked up little support for her in polls and forums, so I'm not too hopefully, though I'd be pleased to be proved wrong.

I pretty sure its going to be Idowu, Daley, Murray in the bottom 3.

I would also say Cavendish and Strauss 6th and 7th, I think Tweddle (along with Ennis) is the one most dependant on coverage, with no coverage she could well be around 6th/7th herself, with a lot of coverage she could be 3rd/4th.

If you remeber the year she was 3rd she did the A.Bar's routine during the show, and James Tosland was 500 odd votes off 3rd in 2007 after he played an instrument during the show after being a rank rank outsider.

The only way Ennis has any chance of winning is if they talk her up hugley, she gives a nice interview and an added bonus of maybe setting up a sand pit or high jump mat for her in the arena for her to demonstrate like Tweddle in '06.

Wales is a small place: population =3m which is 1/17 of the England population of 51m

also much less than the population of Scotland which is over 5m.

so proportionately if Hoy got 100,000 Scottish votes then Giggs would get 60,000.



But more importantly that is assuming Giggs is as popular in Wales as Hoy was in Scotland.

Hoy won 3 golds ......... has Giggs achieved as much ?

Also motor racing has fanatical support .......... is returning to the BBC and Button is the World Champion.

Hoy won 3 golds ......... has Giggs achieved as much


well yeah he has done abit to be honest........

He's kicked a ball around as part of a football team...

erm button won a world champ in an event where only 3 or 4 people have got the car to win in any given year. And didnt he win as part of a team of 1000?

prior to this he was winless for 100 odd grand prix's --- At least Giggs has done it time and time again and doesnt have to rely on technology to help him out

Button is a waste of space

agreed - ennis to win then?

:D

since everyone's so sure Giggs will go well there's £143 waiting to be taken at 1.37.

......... in the SPOTY top 3 market

GUYS - Go and collect:


MONEY TREE 11 Dec 20:51
JUST LAY GIGGS, NO HOPE OF WINNING.

Loving this article in tomorrow's Mirror - yet more positive coverage for our hero....

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/brian-reade/Why-Ryan-Giggs-has-the-X-factor-to-pull-off-a-shock-and-be-crowned-BBC-Sports-Personality-of-the-Year-article253339.html

This bit in particular

A modest man who, as a youngster, was given the chance to swap his Wales shirt for an England one, and see his global profile rocket, but refused to, out of loyalty. The same loyalty that has kept him at one club for 19 years.

this made me smile as well:

A vote for Giggs is a vote against the Ashley Coles of this world. Meaning Cheryl's little crooner, Joe, might win X-Factor tomorrow night, while her little whiner loses on the other side.

And that, in itself, is a good enough reason to wish Giggs well.

Man U have chosen today to announce that Giggs is to be offered a new contract - interesting timing. It ensures that Giggs is making the headlines at the right time and gives a platform for coverage such as this in the Telegraph:

[i]Giggs, who has been shortlisted for the BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award, will take his first-team service at Old Trafford to the 20-year mark. But with momentum building behind Giggss prospects of winning the prestigious BBC award, Ferguson insists that the Welshman would be a perfect recipient. He said:

also on the front page of the sun website under the 'fergie: hats off to giggsy' headline with fergie giving his backing for SPOTY.

headline grabbing performance today would be nice.

Double page spread in The Sun today for Giggs re SPOTY. Fergie saying that he should win it etc

nice.

in the mail too

Could be headline grabbing! - 1-0 down as I write!

Giggs needs a goal or three.

icing on the cake

Giggsy having a shocker - good news for us Ennis backers

Hope they show the game on SPOTY! Giggs off, Man U lose at home!

Come on Manure **e! Get on that phone and vote for your man - you must be motivated after that , thinking you were going to join Chelsea at the top!

Come on Manure **e! Get on that phone and vote for your man - you must be motivated after that , thinking you were going to join Chelsea at the top!

I just can't understand why he should win! what has he achieved this year?

bunnyman 12 Dec 00:25
Loving this article in tomorrow's Mirror - yet more positive coverage for our hero....

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/brian-reade/Why-Ryan-Giggs-has-the-X-factor-to-pull-off-a-shock-and-be-crowned-BBC-Sports-Personality-of-the-Year-article253339.html

This bit in particular

A modest man who, as a youngster, was given the chance to swap his Wales shirt for an England one, and see his global profile rocket, but refused to, out of loyalty. The same loyalty that has kept him at one club for 19 years.

He couldn't play for England as he was born in Wales and had 4 Welsh grandparents.
However he did play for the English Schools team as their qualifying rules are not as strict. In fact anyone who goes to school in England qualifies.

Giggs will not win. I haven't read one post which explains why he deserves to win an award which includes 'personality and 2009'.

He was 16-1 before the renowned, often broke, 'journalist' , Steve Palmer tipped him in the Racing Post.



The gullible led by the irresponsible.

So many poor souls blinded by the title.

A popularity contest where the one eyed man can be king ;)

However he did play for the English Schools team as their qualifying rules are not as strict. In fact anyone who goes to school in England qualifies.

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Indeed. Same reason why Michael Owen played for Welsh schoolboys. Like myself he was born in the nearest maturnity hospital in Chester despite his parents living in Wales.

curious-cat 13 Dec 01:06

He couldn't play for England as he was born in Wales and had 4 Welsh grandparents.
However he did play for the English Schools team as their qualifying rules are not as strict. In fact anyone who goes to school in England qualifies.

As far as I was concerned he chose to play for Wales, thanks for putting me right, perhaps you'd let the rest of the voters know as well.

money arriving...

"And that longevity offers the biggest clue as to why Giggs inspires more respect than hostility from non-Man United fans. Because he is literally a throw-back to the days before the Sky Super Sunday Premier League, when money had yet to skew the values and turn the heads of the luckiest working-class men ever born."

It's a good point, from the mirror article today - while we often hate opposing players, Giggs never seems to fall into that category. He has great respect amongst pretty much all fans.

ttt

gl backers

This could turn out to be one hell of a call

really hope so

GIGGS IS DULL

Well played bud.

Fair play. Some call.

dreadful result - ridiculous - but a great call, well done

nice one george was with you on this one

Well done George and all

fkin joke...

can barely string a sentence together

wd backers

how many 'ummms' has he got in??

a nice win :D although jess was bigger

no commision either :D :D

n1 all

exceptional stuff GB

arise Sir Brush :)

Congrats GB

special mention for Laughing Gravy too

good shout GB..shame i was on ennis at 100/1 :( did lay off though

congrats

good shout all.

Thanks Square's.

Appreciated.

Nice one George - I think he is too plastered too reply, Joe and Giggsy on the same night. :)

Today I shall be mostly counting my Giggs and Joe winnings. Great thread George - well done to you and all the others who followed you in. :)

Cheers guys, good shout, worldwide pulling power seemed the key....went in on spreads where he was priced up to be just better than 3rd and 33 x stake if win....happy days

Cheers Bunny. Took me half an hour to do all the withdrawals, I'd backed in so many places.

I don't think the high street will touch me again ;-)

vwd Bushy

This one and the Murray davis cup year, surely GB's main glories on the forum...

lol, I just saw my old (second) username on here (Shrewd)

what a world it was, picking off all the prices going down from oddschecker. that buzz when you've identified a massive rick and are just trying to get money on anywhere....

01 Dec 09 14:33
"whoever managed to get 50p matched at 1000-1 must be feeling pretty smug. they already have a 200-1 winner."

As I said on my hihlights post that was deleted that was me, unless my memory is playing tricks.  I'm thought it was more than 50p.  Certainly the liability pre nominations was a fair bit higher than £500.  I'd obviously taken a position against some or one of the assumed contenders at that point and was equaling that liability on a few rags

The only 1000 winner I ever laid.  Can't think of any other lay that lost close to that price.  I know a friend put £40 @ 25/1 or £50 @ 20/1 with one bookie to help me get out after he was nominated.

2009 was the year of Susan Boyle and Jedward.  Funnily enough the first 6 months of 2010 were my best ever.  Maybe I need to lay another 1000 winner

yes bgt another cash machine. Ashley & Pudsey vs Jonathan and his carer

2009 was Rybak as well. I learned plenty from that event.

I had Joe McCelderry that year too - backed him during first auditions stage. 2009 was a good year indeed.

I am questioning now whether I actually layed the 1000 or I layed at a very high price someone who was matched at 1000.  Laying 50p @ 1000 isn't really me and I know the liability pre noms was a 4 figure one

Brushy always the man to follow on spoty

On most things tbf. Where does one even begin when attempting to pay tribute to a poster of such extraordinary stature? Quite simply, we are talking about a giant among men, a colossus of the forum world, whose contributions will surely be remembered long after the last bets have been placed and the final thread consigned to history.

A rare combination of wit, wisdom, intelligence and sheer personality. A poster whose presence elevated every discussion they graced and whose absence would leave a void impossible to fill. There have been many posters over the years, but very few who could genuinely be described as one of a kind.

If this forum had a Hall of Fame, their portrait would occupy the entire entrance hall. An absolute legend, and a privilege to have shared this little corner of the internet with them. We shall not see their like again!

Oh gawd. Has he died

Actually I was more worried about army - is he still around, not been seen on here after I think Keeley did for him!

Though hang on, think he tipped Keeley the year after, so must have disappeared a bit later...

December last year maybe last post from him?

I'm sure army is fine. He's always gone missing for months. Reading the threads cider bumped and a few others, I was wondering if he used to be maiaze. A very similar style of posting and an all or nothing betting stratergy

maiaze, blimey that's a name from the past, yes some similarity!

yep, lots of great names from the past. maiaze was quite shrewd. As is army most of the time

seanvice someone whose posts I always looked out for. Pretty sure he tipped up Lee DeWyze @ 40/1 and bigger, for AI. The year after Kris Allen won. Another WGWG

Nice bump stu. Yeah, I could always read spoty better than anything else. Yeah, this was a decent one but muzza Davis Cup was the biggest by far

Now I pretty much only bet on spoty and politics.

I guess I'll have to rejoin fig's forum now :(

Nice tribute bear, I'm taking it as totally sarcasm free :)