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By:
Latalomne
When: 30 Jan 25 21:48
5-2 Robbo
By:
Latalomne
When: 30 Jan 25 21:57
Shon playing for snookers is always a bit embarrassing.  He's terrible at them.
By:
Latalomne
When: 30 Jan 25 22:00
4-3 Yuan
By:
Latalomne
When: 30 Jan 25 22:24
Comedy of errors frame from both, but Yuan actually looked a bit scared.  4-4 Shon.
By:
Latalomne
When: 30 Jan 25 22:54
Shon gets his chance, misses and sticks virtual MB
By:
Latalomne
When: 30 Jan 25 22:55
5-4 Yuan barring snookers
By:
Latalomne
When: 30 Jan 25 23:00
Shon playing on needing 17 pts in fouls to tie
By:
Latalomne
When: 30 Jan 25 23:03
All over.
By:
Latalomne
When: 31 Jan 25 12:54
Another day where I don't particularly like any of the match-ups. 

Hill's having a great week, results wise, but he just doesn't score compared to the rest of those left in the draw.  That's reflected in the price, though.

Kyren's well ahead of LTT on every metric other than recency scoring.  Again, hard to argue with the prices.

Yuan is probably the one who's closest to representing true value, IMHO.  A smidge behind on three metrics and well ahead on recency scoring. 

I have Wu as a slight fav over Baz, but it's close to a coin toss.
By:
Gin
When: 31 Jan 25 14:29
Jesus! I think we have hit a new low for liquidity here.............................Sad

Considering that this is a QF...............
By:
Latalomne
When: 31 Jan 25 14:46
Been v hard to trade all week, IMHO, mate.

Can't say as I'm a lover of this event, and it seems a bit like Marmite for the players (and maybe watchers?), too.
By:
Gin
When: 31 Jan 25 14:56
Yeah, it's been slow this week when i've looked in (as you have already said).

I just had a look at figures from last year's tournament and it looks like that was poor too.

There seems to have been a downturn in general over the last year and that's not going to be helped with the disappearance of eurosport and the resulting move to TNT. Grim times for snooker trading on Betfair.
By:
Gin
When: 31 Jan 25 14:56
Yeah, it's been slow this week when i've looked in (as you have already said).

I just had a look at figures from last year's tournament and it looks like that was poor too.

There seems to have been a downturn in general over the last year and that's not going to be helped with the disappearance of eurosport and the resulting move to TNT. Grim times for snooker trading on Betfair.
By:
Gin
When: 31 Jan 25 14:56
Yeah, it's been slow this week when i've looked in (as you have already said).

I just had a look at figures from last year's tournament and it looks like that was poor too.

There seems to have been a downturn in general over the last year and that's not going to be helped with the disappearance of eurosport and the resulting move to TNT. Grim times for snooker trading on Betfair.
By:
Latalomne
When: 31 Jan 25 15:06
Agreed.  From a personal perspective, lots of the Qs are now 8 table affairs where we only get pics from 4, and we only ever get two tables for any of the Chinese events.  Those things both limit what I do.  Go back a couple of years, and we were able to watch almost every match played on LV.

As you say, the move to TNT is not going to help!  I suspect snooker punters who use LV are dwarfed by those preferring to watch ES/BBC/ITV.

How are you finding everything else?  So far, the PC change doesn't feel as if it's had any significant impact.... (albeit it has helped my bottom line in the immediate term!)
By:
Gin
When: 31 Jan 25 15:38
My other main sport is cricket which has obviously gone in the opposite direction liquidity wise, but it is also getting harder - I have had to change my strategies there to try and adapt/keep up.
By:
Latalomne
When: 31 Jan 25 15:39
If only we had closer to real time pics!  Surely not too much to ask for in 2025?!
By:
Gin
When: 31 Jan 25 15:44
I couldn't agree more - picture speed has become the main reason I now find it harder than ever.
By:
Latalomne
When: 31 Jan 25 22:13
I thought that was in Cry
By:
Latalomne
When: 31 Jan 25 22:15
WOW!
By:
Latalomne
When: 31 Jan 25 22:21
Arse.  W
By:
Latalomne
When: 31 Jan 25 22:33
Cry
By:
Latalomne
When: 31 Jan 25 22:37
Tight behind yellow or brown is a no-brainer
By:
Latalomne
When: 31 Jan 25 22:38
Christ
By:
Latalomne
When: 31 Jan 25 22:40
OMFG
By:
Latalomne
When: 31 Jan 25 22:45
Wow
By:
Latalomne
When: 31 Jan 25 22:52
WOWWWWWWWWW
By:
Latalomne
When: 31 Jan 25 22:54
LoveLoveLove
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Feb 25 11:14
Quite looking forward to today's two semis.

The rematch between Xiao and Kyren should be fascinating.  In many ways, it was Kyren who started the remarkable transformation in Xiao's career.  When they last met in the Wuhan Open, Kyren was all but 3-0 up (I've not been back through the thread, but I am close to certain that Xiao needed a snooker, and Kyren played a terrible shot and gifted it to him).  How differently things might have gone if that hadn't happened! 

Anyway, Kyren is a smidge ahead on all metrics bar recency scoring, where he's a bit behind.  The H2H is 7-1 in favour of Kyren, but Xiao is a different animal now.  Prices look about right to me, I'd be 2.2 Xiao, not enough juice for me.

Will save the second one for later.
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Feb 25 13:07
FFS, LV not working....  Cry
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Feb 25 14:02
3-0 Kyren.  Xiao not turned up yet.
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Feb 25 14:30
There he is!  3-1 MSI
By:
Gutless Wonder
When: 01 Feb 25 15:13
Afternoon Lat! Just dumped TNT after having that channel - BT/ESPN/Setanta - for many years only to find out Eurosport is going there Cry - looks like a few weeks off and will then have to crawl back Laugh
Hope you've had a decent week.
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Feb 25 15:16
LaughLaughLaugh  Are you with Sky or anybody?  You should be able to get it through them without having to crawl, though I guess having cancelled, they might come crawling back to you with an offer you can't refuse?  Either way, it'll still be fecking useless for betting from.

Been a v quiet week in-running apart from my stronger pre-match views, which have done well.
By:
Gutless Wonder
When: 01 Feb 25 15:22
Yeah - probably have a chat with Sky - see what they will offer. Speaking to TNT they were talking alot about sport being streamed on Disc+ - no idea which sports - but that will be way behind I would assume. As you put earlier 2025 and pics getting mile behind live.

Hope the dosh picks up as we near the World Champs.
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Feb 25 15:35
Yeah, it's shocking, mate.  I guess there is no incentive for them to speed them up, sadly....  Sad

Considerably less of an event than I was expecting, this one.... 5-1 Kyren
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Feb 25 16:22
FT 6-2
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Feb 25 17:59
Yuan is a smidge ahead on everything bar recency scoring, where he's equal with Baz.  Baz does lead the H2H, however, 2-0, and there is a chance Yuan's inexperience at this stage of events counts against him and he freezes, but at the prices it's a risk I'm prepared to take, particularly as he's prevailed in two tight Ws having seen opponents come back at him.
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Feb 25 19:19
Perfect start for Yuan, 1-0.
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Feb 25 19:42
Very good from Yuan.  Could easily have missed one of those snookers, 2-0.
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