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Gin When: 20 Jul 24 17:00

I only saw the first session but Judd was on fire - Ronnie on the other hand fluffed the few chances he had.

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stu When: 20 Jul 24 17:29

Ok, cheers Gin - Ronnie has always been somewhat variable of course, but sounds like Trump form is fine too.

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Latalomne When: 21 Jul 24 09:46

Feck me, I presume ES's "Pot rate" stats aren't the same as "Pot success"?

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brentford When: 21 Jul 24 10:06

The second session is only available via Discovery+ (and betting sites).

for IR betting discovery way too far behind but if just want to watch the game they are doing an offer at the moment (£3.99 a month) can cancel during the month to avoid re-bill..means you get extra olympic feeds as well if of interest.

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gjohn101 When: 21 Jul 24 10:29

Jul 21, 2024 -- 9:46AM, Latalomne wrote:

Feck me, I presume ES's "Pot rate" stats aren't the same as "Pot success"?

Pot rate just a simple percentage of pots from the total number of shots, including safety. It's what they use on the WS stats page too. I've seen guys argue it can indicate whether a match was scrappy or free scoring and so is useful on that front, but it's still not the same in my book. Unfortunately, i don't think they've yet devised a way of doing pot success without somebody having to manually input the data.

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Latalomne When: 21 Jul 24 10:44

Thanks, mate. Can't say as I've ever seen them make reference to it on ES before. That makes sense. Figured Shon's 50% pot rate (as announced when I posed the Q) couldn't possibly be the same as what we would ordinarily speak about.

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gjohn101 When: 21 Jul 24 10:59

You could be right there lats. I think it's only on the bbc events now you get the pot success stats, not sure about the ITV ones. Maybe ES just stopped paying some guy a few quid to do them. Have a vague memory Ian Burns used to do stats for them at some point.

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Latalomne When: 21 Jul 24 12:54

Shon Moff, table puncher.

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Latalomne When: 21 Jul 24 12:54

Jul 21, 2024 -- 10:59AM, gjohn101 wrote:

You could be right there lats. I think it's only on the bbc events now you get the pot success stats, not sure about the ITV ones. Maybe ES just stopped paying some guy a few quid to do them. Have a vague memory Ian Burns used to do stats for them at some point.

Sounds about right, mate. Pretty sure ITV still have (or at least had as of last season) them.

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Latalomne When: 22 Jul 24 11:48

Jul 21, 2024 -- 10:06AM, brentford wrote:

The second session is only available via Discovery+ (and betting sites).for IR betting discovery way too far behind but if just want to watch the game they are doing an offer at the moment (£3.99 a month) can cancel during the month to avoid re-bill..means you get extra olympic feeds as well if of interest.

Just cancelled my second broadband line (this one with BT, retaining my Zen one - son has officially moved out and approaching end of contract). Upon reading the cancellation email, I've just discovered I've lost Discovery+, as it was included in my TNT Sport sub. I had NO idea about that. So if people happen to have TNT Sport, they too may be unaware that they already have it, or at least qualify for it!

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brentford When: 22 Jul 24 15:02

apologies to gin..was half asleep when posting yesterday morning..hadn't realised he was referencing the SF on Saturday

just a small point of note the discovery feed was only about 10 secs or so behind BF live video..so not sure if they are significantly improving delay times or whether the BF stream was rather further behind than usual as was focused on cricket market..

that said for IR still not really practical but their are suggestions the tech will eventually get streamed sports much closer to true live than currently...

re the BF video - was a bigger picture than I remember though still full of lost of glitchy frame loses and such especially seemingly at key moments..

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brentford When: 22 Jul 24 15:03

*lots of glitchy frame loses

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Latalomne When: 22 Jul 24 15:49

BFLV is increasingly often being on a par with, if not behind ES pics. I suspect BFLV has been slowed down rather than the other option!

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Latalomne When: 22 Jul 24 15:50

I noticed last week, that when the BFLV feeds freeze, it coincides with utterly awful cutaways on ES. They only ever happen when something interesting has happened and they don't want to show where the balls have actually finished, until whoever is taking advantage has taken advantage.

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brentford When: 22 Jul 24 16:34

cheers for the feedback Lats'

disappointing on the BFLV..

re the cut aways..must admit I noticed some almost unfathomable cut aways from the table at key times on ES coverage..as I've not watched a lot I was kindly putting it down to naivety rather than something worse but guessing not now..

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Latalomne When: 22 Jul 24 16:46

It might just be to allow bookies to reprice, I guess, but it looks awful and is so obvious something is going on.