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So, after 15 days of hard graft we've arrived at the final. J.Higgins has cost me a few quid with his wins over M.Allen and B.Hawkins, but I can at least be thankful I didn't oppose him on the spreads as he'd have been very high on my list of 'sells'. I wouldn't have picked him had I been given 10 picks, as I thought he was bound to throw in an awful session, as he always does these days, and he'd be punished for it. But, fair play to him he's playing well (apart from the opening sessions against Hawkins) and he really fancies his chances if his interview last night is anything to go by. However, he's got the massive obstacle of M.Selby in his way. I know he's not universally liked on here, but the way he can dictate the tempo of a session is incredible. He is so clever, even in the way he breaks off - not opening the reds when he wants to keep it tight, but opening them up when he's in full flow. His achievements here are even more creditable given that the tables are set up to promote open, attacking snooker. The match prices look spot-on, and I have no financial interest in the final (yet) so just hoping for a close finish, which would be a fitting climax to a good championship, especially as I may take Higgins with the 4.5 frame start!
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I thought from the side view it looked it hit but from behind impossible to say
May 1, 2017 -- 9:32PM, BornToWin wrote:
Come on John hit this nit, hit 'im again.
May 1, 2017 -- 9:54PM, wisewords wrote:
May 1, 2017 -- 9:54PM, GRANTCKING wrote:.recharged
Who was he asking anyway ?
Ken and Dennis thought he called it right
Ken and Dennis thought he called it right
tobermory 01 May 17 21:55 Joined: 01 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 41,427 | Blogger: tobermory's blog
Who was he asking anyway ?
Ken and Dennis thought he called it right
The great WT sitting there
Who was he asking anyway ?
Ken and Dennis thought he called it right
The great WT sitting there
May 1, 2017 -- 9:18PM, wisewords wrote:
Coop how much % charge you got left?
Black wobbled. Anyone who saw it different should've gone to Specsavers.
May 1, 2017 -- 9:56PM, wisewords wrote:
May 1, 2017 -- 9:18PM, wisewords wrote:Coop how much % charge you got left?
4%!
jan's a top man
but selby's going to lay the heed on him
if he wins
but selby's going to lay the heed on him
if he wins
Hit for me.
But can't knock the ref either way he called it.
But can't knock the ref either way he called it.
Quick question, why did the nit say it hit when it didn't?
May 1, 2017 -- 10:04PM, BornToWin wrote:
Quick question, why did the nit say it hit when it didn't?
May 1, 2017 -- 10:05PM, peckerdunne wrote:
i saw a wobble, was that with no hit........
I think it hit it aswell tbh, anyway its made the final more entertaining!
"i saw a wobble, was that with no hit........"
Static electricity.
Static electricity.
No cant have this scum bag win and Mark would not lie........
https://youtu.be/RWS2onQlOOE?t=56
in honour of ding junhui, player of the tournament!
in honour of ding junhui, player of the tournament!
If it hit at that speed huge odds on it be touching ball. It wasn't, because it never hit.
May 1, 2017 -- 10:08PM, wisewords wrote:
Coop you must be loving this, Ken Doherty on the comms
I am! Id love some willie thorne with him, what a duo!
David Douglas, the former high-ranking Metropolitan Police officer who investigated match-fixing allegations against the world No1 snooker player John Higgins, has spoken in detail for the first time about why he concluded Higgins never intended to fix any match.
Higgins was banned earlier this month for six months, and fined £75,000, for talking about betting and for failing to report an approach about illicit gambling. Two other charges relating to fixing and corruption were dropped. Almost inevitably, the stigma of being accused by the News of the World on 2 May of “shaking hands on a disgraceful deal to fix a string of high-profile matches after demanding a £300,000 kickback” means mud will stick, regardless of an independent tribunal’s findings.
Higgins was banned earlier this month for six months, and fined £75,000, for talking about betting and for failing to report an approach about illicit gambling. Two other charges relating to fixing and corruption were dropped. Almost inevitably, the stigma of being accused by the News of the World on 2 May of “shaking hands on a disgraceful deal to fix a string of high-profile matches after demanding a £300,000 kickback” means mud will stick, regardless of an independent tribunal’s findings.
And he pretended he didn't see the black wobble. A bounder I say.
Not to mention WISE that his agent said on the way in
'If they ask a few questions about throwing some matches don't worry about it'.
Later he blamed his agent for misleading him and he knew nothing until walking into the room..
COMPLETE COVER UP....
'If they ask a few questions about throwing some matches don't worry about it'.
Later he blamed his agent for misleading him and he knew nothing until walking into the room..
COMPLETE COVER UP....
QUESTION 1: Some observers will be puzzled why, given the apparently damning evidence contained in the News of the World tape, which led Barry [Hearn] to suspend John [Higgins] in the first place, what the rationale was for withdrawing the most damaging charge against him, namely that he was prepared to fix frames for money. Why was that charge withdrawn without the evidence being tested?
DAVID DOUGLAS: I think you’re right in using the word that it was ‘apparently’ damning evidence, and the first thing I’ll say is that when we investigate any complaint then we’re not just going to focus on what’s in the headlines, or what’s in the newspaper or what’s on television. It’s about doing a full and thorough investigation. And that’s what the players deserve as much as anything else. If allegations are going to be made against them, they deserve to have it fully investigated and that’s what we’ll do, and that’s what I like to think we did in the case of John Higgins.
So when you look at everything that happened, the News of the World did a full undercover operation on Pat Mooney and John Higgins. It went on for a long time. And in actual fact when you look at what John did, and what the evidence shows, it shows that John knew nothing about the corrupt throwing of frames etcetera until literally he was just going into the final meeting in Kiev on 30 April, literally as he was just going in there. So when you look at what the evidence said and what charges that could support, then we go where the evidence takes us, it’s as simple as that.
Now when you look at the judgement that Mr Mill, who’s a very eminent QC, made at the end of the case, he quite clearly states that having looked at all of the evidence – and Mr Mill had access to all of the tapes, all of the video tapes, all the audio tapes from the News of the World, he had the statements from myself, Mazher Mahmood who made a full statement, John himself, Pat Mooney, everything – he said that he was in no doubt that the WPBSA were right, on the evidence, to charge John with what we charged him with. We will charge people with the offences we believe they committed, and what the evidence shows. We won’t charge people on what we believe other people might be saying about them.
DAVID DOUGLAS: I think you’re right in using the word that it was ‘apparently’ damning evidence, and the first thing I’ll say is that when we investigate any complaint then we’re not just going to focus on what’s in the headlines, or what’s in the newspaper or what’s on television. It’s about doing a full and thorough investigation. And that’s what the players deserve as much as anything else. If allegations are going to be made against them, they deserve to have it fully investigated and that’s what we’ll do, and that’s what I like to think we did in the case of John Higgins.
So when you look at everything that happened, the News of the World did a full undercover operation on Pat Mooney and John Higgins. It went on for a long time. And in actual fact when you look at what John did, and what the evidence shows, it shows that John knew nothing about the corrupt throwing of frames etcetera until literally he was just going into the final meeting in Kiev on 30 April, literally as he was just going in there. So when you look at what the evidence said and what charges that could support, then we go where the evidence takes us, it’s as simple as that.
Now when you look at the judgement that Mr Mill, who’s a very eminent QC, made at the end of the case, he quite clearly states that having looked at all of the evidence – and Mr Mill had access to all of the tapes, all of the video tapes, all the audio tapes from the News of the World, he had the statements from myself, Mazher Mahmood who made a full statement, John himself, Pat Mooney, everything – he said that he was in no doubt that the WPBSA were right, on the evidence, to charge John with what we charged him with. We will charge people with the offences we believe they committed, and what the evidence shows. We won’t charge people on what we believe other people might be saying about them.
this guy has got what others with more natural ability don't possess..sangfroid under pressure and cojones de acer
Just before Baz took over snooker........
Victor Chandler reported a string of bets coming in from Scotland for crooked John to lose 5-1
Victor Chandler reported a string of bets coming in from Scotland for crooked John to lose 5-1
QUESTION 6: People who don’t necessarily understand the scope of your investigation, the layman who just saw the NotW video on the website and the headlines, will probably have doubts forever about John Higgins. Can you elaborate just quite how detailed your investigation was – the scope of what you checked – so that you believed Higgins’ version of events?
DAVID DOUGLAS: Because I was allowed to look at ALL of the evidence. Whatever you think of the News of the World, they were helpful [to me]. I was given a room at News International to go through all of the material, all the audio tapes, all the video tapes, all the different angles, everything, start to finish, unedited. I had to go through all of that. And in addition to that, Mazher Mahmood made a full statement about everything that happened. But also when I asked them for things like receipts, copies of invoices, hotel bills, they provided all of that. So there’s a whole load of evidence around this, and what I also had which isn’t in the public domain was Pat Mooney’s statement, and John Higgins’ statement, and when you look at those, it’s very easy to see what happened. To be fair to Pat Mooney, he said ‘Hands up, I didn’t tell John about this until we were just about to go in.’
Clearly there was no collusion between them. They have fallen out. The entire thing, the whole thing [relationship] is fractured. Pat, to give him his due, said John knew nothing about this.
And then, because I’ve listened to all the audio tapes, it’s not about 30 April in Kiev, [I know] it’s about Edinburgh on 8 April, it’s about Kiev on 29 April, and you hear conversations going on specifically out of the hearing of John Higgins, so he’s not to brought into this, because they know, fundamentally, they knew he was honest.
And therefore when it comes to the final [meeting] you realise John was going in as a rabbit in the headlights. And therefore I’m absolutely confident, absolutely confident, backed up by Mr Mill, that that was the right interpretation.
DAVID DOUGLAS: Because I was allowed to look at ALL of the evidence. Whatever you think of the News of the World, they were helpful [to me]. I was given a room at News International to go through all of the material, all the audio tapes, all the video tapes, all the different angles, everything, start to finish, unedited. I had to go through all of that. And in addition to that, Mazher Mahmood made a full statement about everything that happened. But also when I asked them for things like receipts, copies of invoices, hotel bills, they provided all of that. So there’s a whole load of evidence around this, and what I also had which isn’t in the public domain was Pat Mooney’s statement, and John Higgins’ statement, and when you look at those, it’s very easy to see what happened. To be fair to Pat Mooney, he said ‘Hands up, I didn’t tell John about this until we were just about to go in.’
Clearly there was no collusion between them. They have fallen out. The entire thing, the whole thing [relationship] is fractured. Pat, to give him his due, said John knew nothing about this.
And then, because I’ve listened to all the audio tapes, it’s not about 30 April in Kiev, [I know] it’s about Edinburgh on 8 April, it’s about Kiev on 29 April, and you hear conversations going on specifically out of the hearing of John Higgins, so he’s not to brought into this, because they know, fundamentally, they knew he was honest.
And therefore when it comes to the final [meeting] you realise John was going in as a rabbit in the headlights. And therefore I’m absolutely confident, absolutely confident, backed up by Mr Mill, that that was the right interpretation.
"this guy has got what others with more natural ability don't possess..sangfroid under pressure and cojones de acer"
It's a Leicester thing. Showaddywaddy had it in bucketfuls.
It's a Leicester thing. Showaddywaddy had it in bucketfuls.
was reading another blog about the higgins inquiry in which they found he wasn't bent but rather naive
smn posted ..yeah there was a lot of naivete in the inquiry but none from higgins
smn posted ..yeah there was a lot of naivete in the inquiry but none from higgins
only higgins AND canaletto really know what went down
May 1, 2017 -- 10:37PM, wondersobright wrote:
oh no not this fkin sh1t again
hit the red after touching the green and that's ok walofs
It was a foul wonder. he hit the reds so how is it a miss?
ffs Jan knows what he is doing unlike the mugs on here.
ffs Jan knows what he is doing unlike the mugs on here.
May 1, 2017 -- 10:41PM, GRANTCKING wrote:
HOW DO U SWALLOW 300K JOHN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjZ8lmedKSA
Hope not
Hazel gushing will be far too much for me...............
Hazel gushing will be far too much for me...............
Mind the gap......crooked John
Someone give him an Oscar
Someone give him an Oscar
would have to mop up that studio floor
or maybe Davis and Parrot could put their tongues to work
or maybe Davis and Parrot could put their tongues to work
May 1, 2017 -- 10:51PM, johnnythebull wrote:
would have to mop up that studio flooror maybe Davis and Parrot could put their tongues to work
I'd be surprised if they have the energy left after 17 days of talking wall to wall bollox
Can't see us getting 5.0+ on Mark for a while now. Cat's well and truly out of the bag now.
a year is a long time in snooker but right now 3/1-7/2 looks about right selby for next year
he is perfectly set up for this event
other tournaments shorter frames etc not so much but shef he is made for
other tournaments shorter frames etc not so much but shef he is made for
Yeah, he's tailor made for it. Bloody nice chap too.
yes multiple world champs success easy to spoil certain people, doesn't seem like its changed mark too much lovely guy
The daughter is a bit over exuberant Mark, have a word............
the 17 day marathon of the mind is over for another year
and boy do I need a rest
and boy do I need a rest
May 1, 2017 -- 10:51PM, johnnythebull wrote:
would have to mop up that studio flooror maybe Davis and Parrot could put their tongues to work
est pressure player since Hendry,not even in first gear beautiful..
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