Champions

judd's been here 4 the taking but fu should've killed him off
instead he's commiting hara kari ffs
gonna be goals in this palermo v roma match,bob

Mar 12, 2017 -- 8:33PM, johnnythebull wrote:

i'll stste this nowno way Trump ever wins a world title

I know why you're saying that but I disagree. Over long matches he will have poor patches and lose frames but he'll also have purple patches and reel off several frames in a row. He undoubtedly has the talent, with a bit of luck as well then I think he can win a world title.

I layed Fu at 1.52 and have just greened. It's now time to lay trump @ 1.38, that's too short for only being a frame up

all about opinions..paul..he gets too nervous and jittery 4 me
plus he ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer

judd stepping into that extra gear

Yes I know why you're saying that and you'll most probably be proven right. I just feel he has the game, just needs a bit of luck too. There have been world champions with far less talent and with poorer games than his

can win this in neutral with marco helping him out

don't disagree paul

hold the back page bob re Roma ..no Dzeko
just cashed out
might still muller them but he's the main man

jonny that tip never got of the ground

My lay isn't looking too good. Good job I only used a bit of my profit

Fu let this match slip big time! Ronald will be nice and fresh to lump 4 the big 1

keeping match sharp but not doing to much he is my tip 4 the title and instead of 2/1 were getting 11/2 this time

fu dropped from a great height

this is done & dusted
pathetic capitulation by fu
boring now unless u've backed judd

5 on the trot from the Trumpster.

I've already got a bit oh Judd @ 8.6

Why you spell with a j Paul?

He goes by Dudd on here

And as Grant would say they don't call him Marco poo 4 nothing!

trick shot

what an absiolute bellend this tiddly is

fu not turned up tonight

fu how odd

his ass has gone

Mar 12, 2017 -- 8:56PM, bobweenit wrote:

He goes by Dudd on here

All noted

He can have the J back when he wins the crucible, if he ever does

have faith,,,am i only person here who believes judd can win worlds

hwe certainly CAN but whether he WILL is another ballgame

He's no foo fighter,abysmal stuff..

Judd will win multiple world titles.

where do u get ur gear BTW?

that comment cheered me right up

After he wins his second I be on here for an apology, cheers mugs.

r u dudds Ginger brother?

Are you old enough to bet bob?

Must be past bath time.

Mum not called me 4 a me soak yet

I don't want to ask what a 'me soak' is... technically you can't ridicule my assertion for at least 10 years. I might give up on him if he hasn't snagged one by 2027.

fu is having a right shocker here right now,i think hes in sulk mode

the comeback is on, 4 one frame anyhow

what a mug this fu is

Why play it at that pace, utter crap

Has your mum washed under your foreskin yet Bob?

What a frame that was

Hendrt knew Trump did not want a piece of that

Good for my lay of Dudd though, almost back to 1.38

Multiple world champ can't play top spin your haffin a laff Dudd fanboys

if marco can nick the next 2
don't fancy judd

147 Bob

hope so but he will choke it

Don't get the max, be a bit unsettling.

not at all

what a showman!!!!!!played the blue

No reason not to take the black there however.

thought he said he was hear to entertain the crowd

Strange individual is Dudd

Mar 12, 2017 -- 10:18PM, bobweenit wrote:

what a showman!!!!!!played the blue

yes very odd, why not give it a go?

Are Madrid going to win?

2-1

this boy had his 1 chance at the worlds and blown it

his ass is twitching twelve to the dozen winning the mighty Llandudno open

getting closer

turning up a bit late marco
u should've won this

palermo 0-roma 3 bob

big choke in the golf jonny

u know what bob
hardly follow it these days
sick of watching bottlers
when i watch it now i do so with contempt
u still making money on it?

my best money maker jonny

good luck 2 u

lot of these f*ckers need gelding

fist pump 4 falling over the line against a non trier!

I know made me laff jonny

good for you juddy boy good for you

Work to do but the best potter ever will be winning titles for many years yet.

Enjoy.

Bit more nervy than it shoulda been, but fair play to the lad anyway. The sport really does need him to come good, still looks a bit fragile though. Cant really trust him to fulfil the talent

hope u backed ur homie 4 this BTW
after lauding him to the skies
would be remiss of u not to have done so!

No not a penny on johnny.

I have backed him for the World title along with a few other hopefuls.

He needs more winning experience, this year maybe too soon but it will come.

Poor loser there Fu, going on about he thought he would only win 1 or 2 etc. No problem to mention being tired but to make several points about it poor form.

Mar 12, 2017 -- 11:00PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:

Poor loser there Fu, going on about he thought he would only win 1 or 2 etc. No problem to mention being tired but to make several points about it poor form.

no wonder he's useless at sheffield then

Think Trump will have his time now, cannot see any of the  old guard like Ronnie or John or even Selby troubling the quarters let alone the final at the Crucible and perhaps a few shocks are on the way and not before time.

bit of a sore loser was fu last night, saying he was tired etc etc, he did not seem to tired to me when he was skipping round the table in building up a 5-2 lead and he needs to understand that its very hard for any player to perform to their best when they are under pressure.

I read on here a few years ago that  this game will become  saturated under barry hearn and I must admit I now know what they mean.

Was it fair that Fu had to play his s/f Saturday night, a tough encounter that went all the way, while Trump was relaxing back in his hotel room, tweeting away to his hearts content probably, having beaten Carter the previous day? I think he'd have a legitimate complaint on that front.

Of course both s/fs should've been played on teh Saturday but I saw it mentioned that because they had rugby and racing to cover, ITV didn't want any snooker in the afternoon. That's what happens when you let tv companies take control and start dictating schedules.

Just watched the famous Ding clearance in the 4th frame against Fu I've been hearing so much about and while it's pretty decent, it hardly deserves the effusive accolades being bandied about. He does well to stay in position, but there are only seriously 2 genuine shots of any level of difficulty - the final red to black and the pink which has the assistance of the bucket pocket to help it drop. There's the blue, but it's a double, and the contact on the pink is guaranteed.

So it's a decent clearance, probably a very good one, but that's about all. Mentioning it in the same breath as Alex's in '82 with his world championship life on the line is nothing short of blasphemy imho.

How the hell Alex ever got to make that break I will never know, his first red would not drop on most tables nowadays, same with the first ball into the green pocket, funny how those big pockets don't get a mention?

gj - I honestly believe that the schedule is now as important as the draw at Sheffield. Last year B.Hawkins beat R.O'Sullivan 13-12 in a 3 day 2nd round match which finished on the Monday night. He had to come out the following afternoon to start his QF with M.Fu - who finished his R2 match 3 days earlier. Fu won the 1st session 7-1 and eventually hung on to scramble home 13-11. It's all speculation but with decent rest Hawkins could easily have won the title. They don't release the schedule before the seedings are confirmed as O'Sullivan always gets a 3 day 2nd round match. You've got to think Hawkins is a huge runner this year but the current seedings suggest he could meet The Captain in R2 and then J.Trump in QF, so I can't go in too heavy...yet.

That's a great point gobe. You definitely have to keep a razor sharp eye on the title. Remember the same in the 2014 final, Ronnie finishing his s/f with a session to spare while Selby had to go deep into the night to beat Robbo. Didn't matter in the end but Selby was something like 7 or 8-3 down after the first session.

Hawkins position is interesting. If he was to climb one place in the rankings to 6, he'd possibly face Allen/Bingham as things stand which wouldn't be bad at all. But since he's not in China, not sure if that's achievable. If he was to drop to 8, he could be looking at Robbo/Selby which is obviously much less attractive. Whoever has that No.6 spot (currently J.Higgins) is going to have a reasonably benign draw to the semis and would be worth a look.

One thing that surprises me is MJW, lost his place in the 16 and doesn't appear to have even entered for China. Wonder is he really that bothered anymore?

*razor sharp eye on the SCHEDULE

Trebor, that opening red in Alex's break would drop on today's tables, especially at the pace it's played. Every other shot in that break goes into the middle of the pocket. The difference between then and now, I reckon, is that they are liable to drop these days even played with force (especially true of the middle bags) and touching the rails inches before the pockets is no bar to potting anymore which was not the case 30 or even 15 years ago.

Nothings in the same class as alex's break that's in a different universe,just dings break was on a desperately slow cloth which made it a bit special,at least in recent times anyway.Hendry was making breaks like that all the time back in the day,but you don't see them too often now especially those pressure clearences,probably why it stood out a lot more than it would've 20 years ago..

MJW did qualify for China, so if he's not going I'm not sure what's going on with him. In truth I don't know how he's stayed in the top 16 for so long, and I don't think he does either. Another interesting point on The China Open - N.Robertson has chosen not to enter, and this seems to be a conscious effort by him to be fresh and well rested before the demands of The Crucible. But, having been knocked out of The Players Championship, he doesn't play again for at least 5 weeks. I wonder if this is further proof of his muddled thinking at present especially as he's struggling for consistency. There used to be a time when there was only a 6 day gap between China and Sheffield, and lots of top players either didn't go or were knocked out early.

I totally agree about Ding's clearance. Let's get some perspective, it was the 4th frame of a best of 11 SF and given that he still lost the match it will be forgotten by most people by next season. Higgins's match saving clearance will still be watched and talked about 50 years from now.

You're correct about Williams. Thought I didn't see his name on the list of matches but on second glance he's there alright, playing Zhang Anda. Shoulda gone to specsavers!

I think a lot of the players are still a bit unsure of how to play the tour, when to take a break or to play every event going. 5 weeks does seem a big gap alright, Allen didn't enter either I think but he is on record before as saying he just doesn't like the place so maybe that's a factor there. Selby didn't play for 2 months before the worlds last year and didn't win it, but that may have been due to personal circumstances and it isn't as if he shot the lights out in Sheffield either. Either way, I think it definitely does point to a less than confident player. I dont fancy him to do great at all, but I have got him wrong in the past!

Dings was a good clearance, but maybe because I knew the outcome when i watched it, it lessened the impact. Watching it live made it seem better, but still, was a bit of an overreaction I felt.

GJ yes that first red may well have dropped on todays tables, and the other was the first black, not a ball into the green pocket. But that's my point, everyone goes on about todays 'buckets' forgetting that the pockets where not so tight as people like to imagine their hero's played on in the past.

And that may well cloud the issue from both sides of the discussion as I despise Higgins and all his antics, while others hero worship him.

Maybe I should imagine Higgins in Hearns position and I might understand moodan better

M.Allen missed the deadline to enter for China, and when he tried to enter late the WSA wouldn't let him. He's another huge under-achiever with a terrible attitude. He looked (yet another) future World Champion when he broke into the top 16 after just 3 years as a pro but he doesn't seem to be able to  channel his 'in-your-face' attitude the right way, and he has the unenviable knack of playing well and losing against the top players.

I wasn't a big Higgins fan either, but that clearance was a once-in-a-lifetime clearance which he was able to produce on the brink of defeat. The fact that he then won the match and then the final made it all the more significant.

Alex doesn't make that break... Jimmy probably world champ at 20.

I wonder what could have happened after that, I really do.

Well i'm a reasonable guy most of the time trebor, it's a fair point, i'd meet you half way on it.

As for Alex, well we all know he was a gurrier, a desperately tragic figure, but how many of us wouldn't be fans of the sport only for him? Me for one anyway. I dont think you need to worship or despise him to appreciate the impact he had on the games popularity...thats just how it was.

The significance mightnt actually make it a better break, but it is certainly profound. It's a break i watch every now and again still expecting him to miss, the little winks and smiles to the crowd, like he knows his destiny and is just toying with their emotions...there's nothing like it in all of sport for me. Maybe people would say i'm over-exaggerating the greatness of that break, but personally i dont think so.