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Watched a fair bit of the baize this last few weeks, although the big one is a stayers event with some course specialists.
Selby been rubbish lately, but a different animal upped in trip. In my eyes he is the fav, but 5/1 still not big enough trying to defend.
Hawkins looks value at 33/1 joke oral. Been consistent, but with plenty chokes thrown in. Getting over the line last week must have helped immensely though.
Anyone over 40 can forget it, except Ronnie. I don't see him winning without a plum passage, there are a few now who fancy it against him. Selby obviously, and Hawkins who did for him last year. Even the Butcher took him out on his glory run. Yes a few golden oldies have prospered this season, but the physical and mental stamina required here makes it highly unlikely. (Dracula in 1978 the last 40+ world champ) Ron has kept himself fit, all credit to him for this it aids the mental stamina as well.
I feel the shortlist is pretty short, Judd is obviously a fly in the ointment, unbackable but could just as easily romp it in a coming of age storm.
Bazza looks the value one at this stage, I would expect him to trade a lot shorter than 33s.
Selby been rubbish lately, but a different animal upped in trip. In my eyes he is the fav, but 5/1 still not big enough trying to defend.
Hawkins looks value at 33/1 joke oral. Been consistent, but with plenty chokes thrown in. Getting over the line last week must have helped immensely though.
Anyone over 40 can forget it, except Ronnie. I don't see him winning without a plum passage, there are a few now who fancy it against him. Selby obviously, and Hawkins who did for him last year. Even the Butcher took him out on his glory run. Yes a few golden oldies have prospered this season, but the physical and mental stamina required here makes it highly unlikely. (Dracula in 1978 the last 40+ world champ) Ron has kept himself fit, all credit to him for this it aids the mental stamina as well.
I feel the shortlist is pretty short, Judd is obviously a fly in the ointment, unbackable but could just as easily romp it in a coming of age storm.
Bazza looks the value one at this stage, I would expect him to trade a lot shorter than 33s.
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For me its Ding or Trump hope they are drawn to meet in the final.
So a lay of Ding and Trump is a cast iron money maker...........
The Hawk or Higgins for me. Ding is terrible imo. Trump possibly.
Higgins is an awful price. I was on at 25/1 last year and he went out with a whimper v Alan angles McManus ffs.
Over 40 and unfit, has been awful this calendar year. Priced up on past achievements, look at his 2011 win he was at least a stone lighter.
Over 40 and unfit, has been awful this calendar year. Priced up on past achievements, look at his 2011 win he was at least a stone lighter.
I've been backing Liang Wenbo for a while for this, he's a big runner for me. He's got stones, which so many of them lack nowadays.
does he? he's extremely twitchy and can't be trusted on the most basic of shots in my opinion
He's won a ranking tournament this season mate, that would suggest he's got a small level of control of basic shots.
And he's an 80/1 chance, when several inferior players are priced much shorter.
And he's an 80/1 chance, when several inferior players are priced much shorter.
A ranking tournament as well, in which he played out of his skin in the semi and the final.
Admittedly, he was rancid against Hawkins in Germany the other day, truly shocking.
He's my only crucible bet so far. I think if anything he's got too much stones cos he ends up going for crazy shots at times. Needs to be more patient. Sure he can be twitchy and miss the odd easy one, no more than any other player I think bar maybe O'Sullivan, selby and one or two others.
he's just too erratic for me but the tour isn't exactly filled with consistency right now
selby scraping through it because everybody else is too poor would probably be my guess but I would like to see Fu win it
selby scraping through it because everybody else is too poor would probably be my guess but I would like to see Fu win it
So would I, but he can't precisely because he lacks minerals.
4-2 up against snooker's biggest ever choker the other night - beaten first to six.
On recent form, you'd have to say Fu is right up there. Most improved player in the game over the past year. Didn't thin k he looked comfortable for whatever reason against Day, whether it was a wonky tip or something. I'd forgive him that one anyway. Like his chance but last time i backed him for the worlds he was around 150 so just can't get interested at less than 20
Pecker,
Laying Trump is like winning the unlucky dip at the grab a granny night. I really get the feeling he will start to make the most of a weak era.
My main problem with Wenbow is he is Trump without the class and needs a couple more seasons to get a bit of discipline.
Trump is the real value but Ding could still be a nine bob note.
Laying Trump is like winning the unlucky dip at the grab a granny night. I really get the feeling he will start to make the most of a weak era.
My main problem with Wenbow is he is Trump without the class and needs a couple more seasons to get a bit of discipline.
Trump is the real value but Ding could still be a nine bob note.
I agree with you gentlemanjohn, FU has been the most consistant performer of late. I feel over long distances this will make him very tough to beat. I also think the snooker gods may help in along, he is due some good karma after the tipgate nonsense of having to take the interval early when he was in good touch. I would love him to do it and it woukd be a very popular victory. Other contenders? Despite going out in the grand prix after beating ROS, I think that win by ROBBO may just click him into gear...
Can't have Robertson on my mind, certaionly not on the strength of beating Ronnie in a best of nine anyway. I couldn't back him to win a raffle until he stops obsessing about the mechanics of the game and concentrates on potting balls. Think he has allowed himself to be consumed by it.
Jed
Spot on. It amazes me how these great players leave the strength of their natural game to play a game that they don't look comfortable in. You would think he would learn from Murphy's mistakes. They have both won the biggest prize of all doing what is right for them. Why change what not broken ?
Spot on. It amazes me how these great players leave the strength of their natural game to play a game that they don't look comfortable in. You would think he would learn from Murphy's mistakes. They have both won the biggest prize of all doing what is right for them. Why change what not broken ?
Robbo won it beating one top sixteen player. A charmed passage in other words.
I wouldn't go near him, Murphy, Allen or Ding at the prices.
I agree his mechanical approach has stunted his game, seems to think he can surgically plot his way around the baize when it simply cannot be done.
A lot can happen on this table 12 by 6
I wouldn't go near him, Murphy, Allen or Ding at the prices.
I agree his mechanical approach has stunted his game, seems to think he can surgically plot his way around the baize when it simply cannot be done.
A lot can happen on this table 12 by 6
It happens with every snooker player who is of an attacking mentality...murphy, robertson and trump have all suffered. It's planted into their heads that they'll never be the full package until they learn proper matchplay strategy and so they try to adapt and when it doesn't produce instant results, they're caught in a no mans land in between and it messes with their heads. Remember 2015 when Judd started to play a few safety shots and the comms kept wittering on about "the new Judd Trump" who quickly reverted back to the old Judd Trump when the pressure cranked up a couple of notches. I have sympathy for these guys, i dont think it is quite so simple as "just do what comes natural and pot every ball in sight", but then the required balance is very difficult to find. Have my doubts Judd ever will to be honest.
I have often thought that if you do not see the safety shot naturally you will never be taught it, it really is that easy.
The execution of the shot like everything in snooker is the most difficult thing.
Hendry was the most attacking player the game has ever seen and if you didn't have a pair of idiots ruining the bbc coverage
then lots of fans would be better informed.
His answer to safety was simple, Don't miss.
Snooker is more a test of nerve than intelligence but far too many ex players would have you believe differently but that is what keeps them in work and most can talk about it, far better than they could ever play it.
Like you Gentlemen, I dont think judd ever will be the full shilling but his eleven pence is far better than 99% of the others and surely he will win a couple at the crucible if he sticks to what he is good at. Hendry managed it against better opposition
than the majority of today's players.
Nice to see the pockets playing tighter, it just shows that somebody is saying the right things.
The execution of the shot like everything in snooker is the most difficult thing.
Hendry was the most attacking player the game has ever seen and if you didn't have a pair of idiots ruining the bbc coverage
then lots of fans would be better informed.
His answer to safety was simple, Don't miss.
Snooker is more a test of nerve than intelligence but far too many ex players would have you believe differently but that is what keeps them in work and most can talk about it, far better than they could ever play it.
Like you Gentlemen, I dont think judd ever will be the full shilling but his eleven pence is far better than 99% of the others and surely he will win a couple at the crucible if he sticks to what he is good at. Hendry managed it against better opposition
than the majority of today's players.
Nice to see the pockets playing tighter, it just shows that somebody is saying the right things.
I just feel with Robertson that he has extended cold spells then clicks into gear and is devastating. I have had it in my head that he is overdue to do this again. I agree he has been far from his best but I'm just looking for hints or signs with him...
Agree about the pockets. If they are indeed tighter it will be very interesting to see who prevails under those conditions.
Visually they look tighter as well and the middle bags,lets just hope the worlds have these bags..
Catching up on the Welsh action - Robbo out 2nd round. Hmm, maybe just wishful thinking from me! Playing it safe you have to say the world number one and the current Masters Champ have to be favourites with Fu or Hawkins as a moderately dark horses.
Think quarters upwards is time to bet,there are only a certain amount of players that relish longer distance matches
and some of those include the dodgepots ding,trump etc but they do become more backable in that scenario.I would back trump if I knew he was in a world semi final and be relatively confident will up his game,as opposed to having any sort of bet on him before that point same with ding..
and some of those include the dodgepots ding,trump etc but they do become more backable in that scenario.I would back trump if I knew he was in a world semi final and be relatively confident will up his game,as opposed to having any sort of bet on him before that point same with ding..
Definitely tighter pockets this week for whatever reason. White had a black along the top rail to win the match against Wenbo yesterday that would have gone in on any other table this season. Bumped the rail only a couple of inches from the pocket, played very slowly, and he looked bewildered when it didn't drop.
Interesting, though, that they make pocket tighter and there have been more shocks than normal. You wouldn't expect that.
Interesting, though, that they make pocket tighter and there have been more shocks than normal. You wouldn't expect that.
Wouldn't be a massive surprise if Perry made it to the final. Not sure he could turn over a seasoned winner at the last hurdle though...
Having gotten browned off with antepost betting on the racing, I turned to Hawkins. He won't be 33/1 when he plays his first shot.
Not likely to be a non runner or rerouted to a different race!
Ticking along nicely this week again, a ton and 2 x 60s in a 4-0 win yesterday and 3 x 1 visit kills again today 4-1 win. The awful collapse v Journeyman Joe could have ruined him for a while, no he quickly obtains his best title the guy could now have arrived at last.
Its Trump or Hawk for me, I'm ruling out Ronnie due to being over 40 (although he is a special case).
Not likely to be a non runner or rerouted to a different race!
Ticking along nicely this week again, a ton and 2 x 60s in a 4-0 win yesterday and 3 x 1 visit kills again today 4-1 win. The awful collapse v Journeyman Joe could have ruined him for a while, no he quickly obtains his best title the guy could now have arrived at last.
Its Trump or Hawk for me, I'm ruling out Ronnie due to being over 40 (although he is a special case).
Gentlemen,
It's taken a few out of their comfort zone, best of 7, ultra faster cloth and tighter pockets it's been a shock for some.
It's taken a few out of their comfort zone, best of 7, ultra faster cloth and tighter pockets it's been a shock for some.
The 33/1 was due to a technical error, Coral had already gone 16/1 two days prior. But don't worry, all bets will stand.
I have a couple of insiders at Joe are you sure
He is still the wrong price at 25s which is apparently available in a couple of places...
He is still the wrong price at 25s which is apparently available in a couple of places...
Absolutely sure, you can check the History for Hawkins on Oddschecker. Coral been consistently short on Hawkins last few weeks, 12/1 for him at start of this tournament too.
I have been monitoring the odds for a while myself, which is why I was surprised to see 33s after his win last week.
That is why I stuck it on here, hopefully Joe has to honour more than the 3 ponys I mentioned!
That is why I stuck it on here, hopefully Joe has to honour more than the 3 ponys I mentioned!
Oh no Mark, you are an agent of Joe aren't you?
On here looking for me for exposing you to some 33 bananas liabilities?!
On here looking for me for exposing you to some 33 bananas liabilities?!
Haha, yes I am such an agent. But just came across this thread and needed to defend the company's honour and make it clear it was an error rather than bad judgement!
Sadly for Baz backers, by the time we get to Sheffield he will be well out of form again.
Yeah whatever value there was is now clearly gone on the hawk, a fair chance he'll have shot his bolt by then for the season. In the final last year you had Selby who hadn't played for 2 months previously and Ding whose form had been so bad he'd dropped out of the top 16. Not sure I'd be ruling anyone out on the basis of form at all.
£330k last year, £300K the 2 years before and £250K the 6 years prior to that.
Thanks Trebor. Not too bad the. It's about what the winner of the men's singles at Wimbledon got in 1996 - they get £2m now.
Has to be Mark Selby - and i think 5's is a decent price.
1st round could be difficult, but past that he goes from strength to strength. He is the toughest mentally ive seen in this sport, and i can't come up with a viable alternative.
1st round could be difficult, but past that he goes from strength to strength. He is the toughest mentally ive seen in this sport, and i can't come up with a viable alternative.
Ali Carter, Kyren Wilson & 2 other long-priced quals for me.
Selby should be fav for the torno, allthough I can't see him winning it again this year, he might not be quite hungry enough for it again this year. maybe next year.
Selby should be fav for the torno, allthough I can't see him winning it again this year, he might not be quite hungry enough for it again this year. maybe next year.
Not even going to blag my way to a bet early on,will wait till I see the draw probably lay Selby at 1/10 1st round and wait till at least quarters maybe semis for a bet all depending whose left..
I even wonder if there could be a boil over, with the 2 favs looking vulnerable it could be right up for grabs.
Ronnie seems to prefer being on Eurosport, can he really go 17 days without being the boyo?
I think Murphy and Joe Johnson were 150/1 shots, and Graeme Dott can't have been too fancied anybody confirm? So a boil over is just about due.
Ronnie seems to prefer being on Eurosport, can he really go 17 days without being the boyo?
I think Murphy and Joe Johnson were 150/1 shots, and Graeme Dott can't have been too fancied anybody confirm? So a boil over is just about due.
Let's all just back Trump. At least he looks hungrier now
McGill sneaks into the 16 by my reckoning if he wins the shootout final incoming... 80/1 in a few places still, a nice outside punt if you ask me.
A.McGill is definitely a lively outsider especially if he doesn't have to qualify. He looks a Crucible player if there is such a thing these days with best of 11s now seen as a long match. He still has a tendency to over-think certain situations (like N.Robertson a few years ago) but he is very tough under pressure. I also think K.Wilson could go well at a big price. He's definitely stalled this year, and I think he's struggled coming to terms with being one of the hunted rather than one of the hunters. But, in a wide-open year he has a chance especially as he showed massive potential, and nerve, in beating J.Perry and M.Allen last year. B.Hawkins still looks over-priced at 20/1 although the draw could be skewed massively depending where R.O'Sullivan ends up. Unbelievably, he isn't 100% certain to be in the top 16, and if he ends up seeded 16 he'd be scheduled to meet M.Selby in R2, at which point we'd be looking at 6/1 the field.
Much will depend on Hearns instructions to the table fitters. The guy has little respect for the game and just wants quick games so expect the unexpected and probably this will be the last time we will see the present format.
Ronnie has't the bottle to win a 6th nor his old skill.
Selby looks jaded and has that haunted look and maybe he will be potted off the table with generous pockets that play like buckets but the silly money will follow him for a round or 2.
Robertson could well do it again but he will have to stop thinking with his poorly brain and destroy the joke of a table, doing what is his only strength.
With the rest of the field being journeymen who are getting their day in the sun because of a bad era, it's nailed on that both Trump and Ding will have a big say in the final result providing they don't meet early on.
Not much point having a bet until you know the runners.
Ronnie has't the bottle to win a 6th nor his old skill.
Selby looks jaded and has that haunted look and maybe he will be potted off the table with generous pockets that play like buckets but the silly money will follow him for a round or 2.
Robertson could well do it again but he will have to stop thinking with his poorly brain and destroy the joke of a table, doing what is his only strength.
With the rest of the field being journeymen who are getting their day in the sun because of a bad era, it's nailed on that both Trump and Ding will have a big say in the final result providing they don't meet early on.
Not much point having a bet until you know the runners.
Apparently the top 15 in the current rankings are certain to be at Sheffield, with only the last seed to be decided in China. This means A.McGill is guaranteed to be seeded, and is yet more justification for not having the shoot-out as a ranking event. McGill would still have been provisionally seeded 16 and may have still ended the season in the top 16 - but the 32,000 ranking points he earned means he's now mathematically certain. It just doesn't seem right that a 10 minute knock-about played with different rules can determine something so important, and those who say all players had the choice to enter are badly missing the point.
Looking at the provisional rankings I was surprised to see J.Perry is currently 17th. He'd be a horror draw for any of the seeds if he had to qualify and did so.
Looking at the provisional rankings I was surprised to see J.Perry is currently 17th. He'd be a horror draw for any of the seeds if he had to qualify and did so.
Anyone know when the draw is made for the qualifiers at Pond's Forge?
I guess next Monday after the China Open is concluded and rankings are updated.
Wilson at the prices for me. If he plays anyway well, he'll go very close at the worst.
Also think Mags will give Selby a rattle in the other match. Have a bit on a Wilson/Maguire double, think i'll get a fair run for my cash.
Also think Mags will give Selby a rattle in the other match. Have a bit on a Wilson/Maguire double, think i'll get a fair run for my cash.
Players imo who you can rule out.
Ronnie
Higgins
Williams
Ding
Roberston
Bingham
Ronnie
Higgins
Williams
Ding
Roberston
Bingham
Higgins may be hard to fancy but one thing in his favour he'll have a nice draw if the likely seedings hold up. Would have a look before drawing a line through him. Ding will have the draw from hell
Higgins at the mo is unfit and carrying to much weight.Needing to get on treadmill,its affecting his concentration.
Higgins at 14/1 is absolutely stinking. I wouldn't bet him at 50s.
When he wins bring on the abuse
When he wins bring on the abuse
Actually looking at the seedings, i'm not 100 per cent how it works, but seems a fair chance that K Wilson is going to move up ahead of Ronnie which would work out in Ronnies favour very much. Instead of a possible qualifier/Ding/Murphy or Wenbo passage to the s/f, he'd face qualifier/Bingham/Allen or Hawkins which would be infinitely more manageable. Snooker gods very much in Ronnie's corner yet again!
*That should read qualifier/Bingham/Allen or Higgins which is even better.
As I said though, not 100 per cent that'll be the case yet.
As I said though, not 100 per cent that'll be the case yet.
You can not be ruling out Ronnie...
I rarely bet him for anything and frequently lay him in matches as a trade/or not.
I have backed him here at a very fair price.
So much depends on the draw and the conditions.
I have had a small bet on Joyce at handsome odds.
Looking for more value, but hard to find as yet.
I rarely bet him for anything and frequently lay him in matches as a trade/or not.
I have backed him here at a very fair price.
So much depends on the draw and the conditions.
I have had a small bet on Joyce at handsome odds.
Looking for more value, but hard to find as yet.
Yeah crazy ruling out ROS, closer we get the more i'm tempted to feel confident in him. His temperament was awful in China this week, no idea why he was there in the first place, but not expecting a repeat in Sheffield. Can see him holding it together at the least, after that who knows
Finding value before the draw isnt easy alright. Cant be with you on joyce...there's about 20 priced around the 500 mark i'd have before him
Finding value before the draw isnt easy alright. Cant be with you on joyce...there's about 20 priced around the 500 mark i'd have before him
I'm sure the ''conditions'' will be made perfect for o'sullivan,no tight pockets those two weeks..
Ronnie i might trade at some time..
Joyce is a very small bet based on conditions that allow plenty of break building and less safety..
I am well aware of his ability to choke and butcher........over 500/1 prior to the draw.
Joyce is a very small bet based on conditions that allow plenty of break building and less safety..
I am well aware of his ability to choke and butcher........over 500/1 prior to the draw.
Jo Perry is 100-1. In qualifying I calculate that he faces either Joyce or Grace if he defeats Songsermsawad. Worth a few quid imo.
Zilch value backing these lot,probably o'sullivan 6/1 if he gets his usual p1ss easy draws at least trading wise,would imagine by quarters the match ups will be the time to bet.There are certain players you know relish prospects of playing certain players,certainly fancy trump to beat o'sullivan if he can get through...
Think o'sullivan will have to beat Murphy and Ding just to reach the semis so the fabled soft draw doesnt seem likely this time round, might actually help focus him a bit better this time round though. Hard to knwo what to expect
Ok but outside of the top 2, who could he feasibly draw before the s/fs that you'd consider a proper test
Ding couldn't smash one of them fortune cookies to bits.
Mugphy would stoop to the occasion as well, perfect draws for Ron.
Mugphy would stoop to the occasion as well, perfect draws for Ron.
Murphy is an embarrassment when he plays Ronnie, granted. But I don't think Ronnie holds the same fear for any of them now.
Ronnie an embarrassment these days really. He will be wanting in the Eurosport studio rather than tough out the marathon imo.
I should think it's a very painful time for Ronnie. Decades spent wasting his talent, and now he has finally embraced it it is slowly deserting him.
Decades spent wasting his talent,
A bit harsh,to say the least..
20 years and more........nope
A bit harsh,to say the least..
20 years and more........nope
He's been the best player in the world for twenty years. He has won five world titles - Stuart Bingham, Graeme Dott, etc the list of absolute hackers who have won the world title while he has been the best player tells you all you need to know.
One of the supreme talent-wasters in the history of Sport.
One of the supreme talent-wasters in the history of Sport.
You can argue the point without writing rubbish like Graeme Dott an "absolute hacker". Bingham not the best but played fantastic for that 2 weeks and deserved the title without being ridiculed by people who should know better.
A bit of hyperbole never hurt anyone lol
To be fair I often use wee Graeme as an example of what can be achieved by application and determination, and you are of course dead right about Bingham, to beat the three players he beat from the quarters onwards was a brilliant effort and he played some sublime snooker to win it.
But let's not get carried away here - neither of those two players would argue themselves that they possess a quarter of Ronnie's ability.
To be fair I often use wee Graeme as an example of what can be achieved by application and determination, and you are of course dead right about Bingham, to beat the three players he beat from the quarters onwards was a brilliant effort and he played some sublime snooker to win it.
But let's not get carried away here - neither of those two players would argue themselves that they possess a quarter of Ronnie's ability.
Ah yeah not immune to it myself sometimes in fairness
I agree with your overall point, ronnie is an underachiever...crazy he doesnt have 7 world titles at a bare minimum but in his defence he did spend a fair few of those years in hendrys orbit and also in the most competitive era around the early 2000s. Its the last 5-10 years he should have been making serious hay
I agree with your overall point, ronnie is an underachiever...crazy he doesnt have 7 world titles at a bare minimum but in his defence he did spend a fair few of those years in hendrys orbit and also in the most competitive era around the early 2000s. Its the last 5-10 years he should have been making serious hay
My Final selections:
Smurphy main bet 24/1.
Wilson 60's
Carter 50's
Maguire at 100/1 was a HUGE price for a player of his class...
GL gents.
Smurphy main bet 24/1.
Wilson 60's
Carter 50's
Maguire at 100/1 was a HUGE price for a player of his class...
GL gents.
Evening app. I can't have Smurph, I just can't. His focus isn't on snooker at the moment and I wouldn't be surprised if he bites the dust in R1. Wilson has found a bit of form and is in an incredibly weak section. He was very impressive at The Crucible last year and is a lively outsider. I'll be having my usual 50p each way on Carter, but I'm not happy he potentially plays The Hawk in R2 - although it will be a hard fought encounter between 2 quality match players. Maguire's recent record at The Crucible is shocking with 4 straight defeats in R1, but maybe having to qualify will have taken the pressure off him given the lower expectations. He'll be match sharp and the top seeds will definitely be keen to avoid him.
The Hawk or Judd with longshot stabs on McGill and Wilson for me.
Beaten SP by a good chunk on all but McGill who you can still get 80s on, can I eat the value
Starting to think Selby can retain and Judd can disappoint again, hope I am wrong.
Beaten SP by a good chunk on all but McGill who you can still get 80s on, can I eat the value
Starting to think Selby can retain and Judd can disappoint again, hope I am wrong.
The Hawk, J.Trump and A.McGill are all in the same quarter so you've every chance of getting 1 in the SFs, but The Captain also lurks down there and I remain convinced, despite all evidence to the contrary, that he's going to fly away to the title one day. If he can get past The Hawk this could be the year!!
Wilson
Carter
McGill
Guodong for zillions
Dott to trade for not so many zillions
Ronnie fair lump to trade
Carter
McGill
Guodong for zillions
Dott to trade for not so many zillions
Ronnie fair lump to trade
McGill & Wilson are very popular. Think on balance i'd go for McGill, Wilson is the better player for sure but not so much that he should be half the price i reckon
One thing not sure i can foresee too many first round shocks. Looks like it might be a fairly weak bunch of qualifiers, at least relative to last year anyway when qualifiers included likes of Wenbo, Ding, Carter, Angles, Dott, Wilson, Milkins.
Who are the ones you'd want to avoid this time? Maguire I suppose and Williams if he gets there, but after that who would the top guys be scared of? None of them if you ask me
One thing not sure i can foresee too many first round shocks. Looks like it might be a fairly weak bunch of qualifiers, at least relative to last year anyway when qualifiers included likes of Wenbo, Ding, Carter, Angles, Dott, Wilson, Milkins.
Who are the ones you'd want to avoid this time? Maguire I suppose and Williams if he gets there, but after that who would the top guys be scared of? None of them if you ask me
O'sullivan to trade 6/1 looks very good,selby out, he becomes 2/1 can't back players defending title will leave it there for now,too many mugs to be throwing darts at..
McGill is a goner. Maguire will have him for breakfast.
Can't have Ronnie winning it. Will have to play Selby and its goodnight O'Sullivan.
Can't have Ronnie winning it. Will have to play Selby and its goodnight O'Sullivan.
Mark Selby v Fergal O’Brien
Ryan Day v Xiao Guodong
Neil Robertson v Noppon Saengkham
Marco Fu v Luca Brecel
Shaun Murphy v Yan Bingtao
Ronnie O’Sullivan v Gary Wilson
Liang Wenbo v Stuart Carrington
Ding Junhui v Zhou Yuelong
Stuart Bingham v Peter Ebdon
Kyren Wilson v David Grace
Mark Allen v Jimmy Robertson
John Higgins v Martin Gould
Barry Hawkins v Tom Ford
Ali Carter v Graeme Dott
Anthony McGill v Stephen Maguire
Judd Trump v Rory McLeod
Ryan Day v Xiao Guodong
Neil Robertson v Noppon Saengkham
Marco Fu v Luca Brecel
Shaun Murphy v Yan Bingtao
Ronnie O’Sullivan v Gary Wilson
Liang Wenbo v Stuart Carrington
Ding Junhui v Zhou Yuelong
Stuart Bingham v Peter Ebdon
Kyren Wilson v David Grace
Mark Allen v Jimmy Robertson
John Higgins v Martin Gould
Barry Hawkins v Tom Ford
Ali Carter v Graeme Dott
Anthony McGill v Stephen Maguire
Judd Trump v Rory McLeod
few quid on the rocket 11/2..marco 22/1..the hawk 18/1..judd wins jack
Nobody's talking about him but think Ballrun is worth a mention. Mightn't win but see him making semis at a minimum. Playing well this year, in fact almost identical to the year he had when he won the thing out. A Trump rematch on the cards.
I fear a 17 day mugfest, with constant moaning about standards and pockets. And that is just from me
Same here born - 17 days of the same old groans year in year out. Is Hendry better than O'Sullivan? Are the pockets bigger than they were 20 years ago? Why are so many 35-40 year olds still winning tournaments - does this mean the standard is better or worse? What nursing home does Dennis live in?
I can't wait!
I can't wait!
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