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By:
thegiggilo
When: 10 Apr 17 12:20
Murphy and ding he would've hand picked them..
By:
gentlemanjohn
When: 10 Apr 17 12:37
Ok but outside of the top 2, who could he feasibly draw before the s/fs that you'd consider a proper test
By:
jed.davison
When: 10 Apr 17 17:04
Ding will smash Ronnie to bits.
By:
BornToWin
When: 10 Apr 17 17:23
Ding couldn't smash one of them fortune cookies to bits.

Mugphy would stoop to the occasion as well, perfect draws for Ron.
By:
jed.davison
When: 10 Apr 17 18:24
Murphy is an embarrassment when he plays Ronnie, granted. But I don't think Ronnie holds the same fear for any of them now.
By:
BornToWin
When: 10 Apr 17 18:49
Ronnie an embarrassment these days really. He will be wanting in the Eurosport studio rather than tough out the marathon imo.
By:
jed.davison
When: 11 Apr 17 12:24
I should think it's a very painful time for Ronnie. Decades spent wasting his talent, and now he has finally embraced it it is slowly deserting him.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 11 Apr 17 12:46
Decades spent wasting his talent,

A bit harsh,to say the least..

20 years and more........nope
By:
jed.davison
When: 11 Apr 17 13:03
He's been the best player in the world for twenty years. He has won five world titles - Stuart Bingham, Graeme Dott, etc the list of absolute hackers who have won the world title while he has been the best player tells you all you need to know.

One of the supreme talent-wasters in the history of Sport.
By:
gentlemanjohn
When: 11 Apr 17 13:10
You can argue the point without writing rubbish like Graeme Dott an "absolute hacker". Bingham not the best but played fantastic for that 2 weeks and deserved the title without being ridiculed by people who should know better.
By:
jed.davison
When: 11 Apr 17 13:37
A bit of hyperbole never hurt anyone lol

To be fair I often use wee Graeme as an example of what can be achieved by application and determination, and you are of course dead right about Bingham, to beat the three players he beat from the quarters onwards was a brilliant effort and he played some sublime snooker to win it.

But let's not get carried away here - neither of those two players would argue themselves that they possess a quarter of Ronnie's ability.
By:
gentlemanjohn
When: 11 Apr 17 14:29
Ah yeah not immune to it myself sometimes in fairness

I agree with your overall point, ronnie is an underachiever...crazy he doesnt have 7 world titles at a bare minimum but in his defence he did spend a fair few of those years in hendrys orbit and also in the most competitive era around the early 2000s. Its the last 5-10 years he should have been making serious hay
By:
appformat
When: 11 Apr 17 19:07
My Final selections:
Smurphy main bet 24/1.
Wilson 60's
Carter 50's
Maguire at 100/1 was a HUGE price for a player of his class...
GL gents.
By:
gobelins
When: 11 Apr 17 19:25
Evening app. I can't have Smurph, I just can't. His focus isn't on snooker at the moment and I wouldn't be surprised if he bites the dust in R1. Wilson has found a bit of form and is in an incredibly weak section. He was very impressive at The Crucible last year and is a lively outsider. I'll be having my usual 50p each way on Carter, but I'm not happy he potentially plays The Hawk in R2 - although it will be a hard fought encounter between 2 quality match players. Maguire's recent record at The Crucible is shocking with 4 straight defeats in R1, but maybe having to qualify will have taken the pressure off him given the lower expectations. He'll be match sharp and the top seeds will definitely be keen to avoid him.
By:
BornToWin
When: 11 Apr 17 20:27
The Hawk or Judd with longshot stabs on McGill and Wilson for me.

Beaten SP by a good chunk on all but McGill who you can still get 80s on, can I eat the value Laugh

Starting to think Selby can retain and Judd can disappoint again, hope I am wrong.
By:
gobelins
When: 11 Apr 17 20:41
The Hawk, J.Trump and A.McGill are all in the same quarter so you've every chance of getting 1 in the SFs, but The Captain also lurks down there and I remain convinced, despite all evidence to the contrary, that he's going to fly away to the title one day. If he can get past The Hawk this could be the year!!
By:
peckerdunne
When: 11 Apr 17 21:37
Wilson

Carter

McGill

Guodong for zillions

Dott to trade for not so many zillions

Ronnie fair lump to trade
By:
gentlemanjohn
When: 11 Apr 17 22:36
McGill & Wilson are very popular. Think on balance i'd go for McGill, Wilson is the better player for sure but not so much that he should be half the price i reckon

One thing not sure i can foresee too many first round shocks. Looks like it might be a fairly weak bunch of qualifiers, at least relative to last year anyway when qualifiers included likes of Wenbo, Ding, Carter, Angles, Dott, Wilson, Milkins.

Who are the ones you'd want to avoid this time? Maguire I suppose and Williams if he gets there, but after that who would the top guys be scared of? None of them if you ask me
By:
thegiggilo
When: 11 Apr 17 23:54
O'sullivan to trade 6/1 looks very good,selby out, he becomes 2/1 can't back players defending title will leave it there for now,too many mugs to be throwing darts at..
By:
Blackrock
When: 13 Apr 17 11:46
McGill is a goner. Maguire will have him for breakfast.
Can't have Ronnie winning it. Will have to play Selby and its goodnight O'Sullivan.
By:
RAPS
When: 13 Apr 17 12:04
Mark Selby v Fergal O’Brien

Ryan Day v Xiao Guodong

Neil Robertson v Noppon Saengkham

Marco Fu v Luca Brecel

Shaun Murphy v Yan Bingtao

Ronnie O’Sullivan v Gary Wilson

Liang Wenbo v Stuart Carrington

Ding Junhui v Zhou Yuelong

Stuart Bingham v Peter Ebdon

Kyren Wilson v David Grace

Mark Allen v Jimmy Robertson

John Higgins v Martin Gould

Barry Hawkins v Tom Ford

Ali Carter v Graeme Dott

Anthony McGill v Stephen Maguire

Judd Trump v Rory McLeod
By:
johnnythebull
When: 13 Apr 17 12:31
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By:
johnnythebull
When: 13 Apr 17 12:32
few quid on the rocket 11/2..marco 22/1..the hawk 18/1..judd wins jack
By:
gentlemanjohn
When: 13 Apr 17 12:49
Nobody's talking about him but think Ballrun is worth a mention. Mightn't win but see him making semis at a minimum. Playing well this year, in fact almost identical to the year he had when he won the thing out. A Trump rematch on the cards.
By:
BornToWin
When: 13 Apr 17 17:35
I fear a 17 day mugfest, with constant moaning about standards and pockets. And that is just from me Laugh
By:
gobelins
When: 13 Apr 17 18:19
Same here born - 17 days of the same old groans year in year out. Is Hendry better than O'Sullivan? Are the pockets bigger than they were 20 years ago? Why are so many 35-40 year olds still winning tournaments - does this mean the standard is better or worse? What nursing home does Dennis live in?

I can't wait!
By:
peckerdunne
When: 13 Apr 17 19:00
Ye forgot 'Barrow boys'.........Laugh
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