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Just saw the Trump press conference; it's on the World Snooker home page for those of you who haven't seen yet.
Understandanly disappointed but there was a real edge to it regarding his view of Carter and vice versa, in part due to leading questions by the journalists, but it seems that there is some simmering issues between the two of them.
Anyone aware of history between them?
Understandanly disappointed but there was a real edge to it regarding his view of Carter and vice versa, in part due to leading questions by the journalists, but it seems that there is some simmering issues between the two of them.
Anyone aware of history between them?
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just a bit of needle in the match apparently. Trump not apologising for any fluke and Carter suggesting he hasn't got an all round game. Both pretty fair accusations from Carter.
Although the constant shaking of his head like a child when Trump got way with things I always find quite pathetic. Lucky run of the balls......everyone gets them on occasion but you notice it when the good ones get them because they take advantage. |
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There seemed to be some tension all match. Don't think Trumps supporters help. There was a time in the match where Carter sarcastically clapped Trump when he fluked the ball safe. Robertson and Trump don't seem to get on either.
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All a bit childish - maybe judd does need to own up to good run but sarcastic clapping is worse i feel. great match though.
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ebdon obviously in the carter camp too.
have to say that judd got an outrageous run of the balls in the middle session. makes my blood boil to hear willie and denis say that the run evens itself out over the course of a game. such deep analysis, jaysus. |
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They just hate his brand of 'naughty snooker'.
Ebdon and Carter are old school, but Trump and other youngsters are changing snooker a bit...into 'one chance' snooker. I laugh at the comms because they are as shocked as us at his apparent recklessness, having been brought up in an era when you only went for a pot if you were at least 99.7% to get it. There may be a bit of jealousy involved here too. |
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Ali Carter questioned Judd Trump's playing style and etiquette after coming from behind to beat the favourite in the second round.
Carter was 12-9 down but recovered to beat last year's runner-up 13-12. "Judd pots them from everywhere but there's more to this game than potting them from everywhere, and I've proved that today," said Carter. "He didn't apologise for any [fluked] shots through the whole match. There's a bit of etiquette in the game." Carter, the beaten finalist in 2008 , denied there was any needle between the two, despite a few instances during the match that suggested otherwise. Trump led 9-7 after Sunday's second session, which led to a short exchange on Twitter, sparked by Carter simply posting "Luck Trump". And at 12-10 down on Monday, Carter clapped sarcastically after what he deemed to be another stroke of luck for his rival. The 22-year-old Trump responded by calling Carter "childish" before suggesting some of his fellow pros were jealous of his success. He said: "A lot of players enjoy me losing. I don't know why, I'm not a bad person, I don't have any beef with anyone. "I haven't got a clue [why Carter clapped sarcastically]. I'm still a lot younger than him and have done a lot better, so let's just let the snooker do the talking." Carter, 32, responded: "He had three or four lashes in the last frame, like he'd been doing in the whole match, and got away with it. "I don't think he realises how much luck he gets, how much he gets away with. "You cannot keep potting balls like that and if he carries on going for them, he will be getting beat. "I've been on too many wrong ends of matches like that and now he can feel what it feels like to have a nasty scar in his career. It's not easy to get over. "He's a great player, has achieved more than me in the game already. He's great for the game, he's like a young Ronnie [O'Sullivan] really. "But he's got to develop a little bit more of a personality, start slagging a few people off, and then people will love him even more I suppose." |
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well prophet, are you still confident about tomorrow morning? a great day's snooker ahead.
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Of course i am Artie. Will you be backing Ronnie over Robbo, or just watching?
Cracking stuff...can't wait. |
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you'll remember my post to you in another thread y'day or the day before, and my outlook hasn't changed.
I'll be on Ronnie but the winner of this match assumes short favouritism for the title. Match odds are too skinny so I'll be having a bit of the handicap. What's your bet? |
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The handicap? How many frames is Ronnie getting?
 I will take a look at the market.I will be on Robbo in the outright market, although i also have a bit on him to win his quarter. It's all good fun  I should point out that i mostly trade and rarely bet Artie, but i will be betting Robbo tomorrow. GL mate, it should be great viewing. |
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Carter talks about etiquette in the game, wasn't he the one who sarcastically clapped a fluked snooker in the middle of a match. I remember his interview when he was beaten by O'Sullivan in the power snooker and he was a right lemon then aswell.
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Ha, it's robbo that will need them (hopefully).
So do you always close out your positions, and do you find it a better strategy to normal betting? Enjoy tomorrow dude. |
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The worst thing is he could win it,talk about mediocrity could be the dullest final in years if he gets through,Carter vday or maguire jeez
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Give you large odds Carter v Maguire in the final
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Yes i always close out positions, and try not to let greed take over...which is easily done.
I have a golden rule that works for me...i only bet (some)of the green i have managed to build and even then i hate to do that because it takes a quite a while to get and a short while to lose if punting. Is it a better strategy than normal betting? Yes for me because i would always lose in the end when betting, but i can turn just about any market all green by trading it. However, the buzz isn't the same as punting...that's for sure. |
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I am not sure I know whats going on in snooker anymore.
The myths are mounting up as they always do mainly due to poor education by certain commentators. I have been watching one chance snooker for twenty years Hendry invented it and spent his career doing it and Ronnie, Mark and John put in many shifts as well and there are others. Easier tables have allowed lesser players to shine and although we are constantly misinformed that the standard is rising its still the old school at the wrong ends of their careers who are having a bigger slice of the pie. This fact is completely lost on some that are in positions they do not grace. Class is becoming a stranger to snooker. |
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I actually thought it was quite noticeable from about 12-10 that Judd looked rather embarrassed by the run of the balls that he was having. Carter's head-shaking and the 'clapping' got into Judd's head, I think, and was at least partly responsible for the miss in the decider.
Can't remember which of the matches it was the other day, but the comms said that in their heydays, Hendry and Davis would never apologise for anything they fluked. It was even suggested that that was the thing that set them apart as winners.... |
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Bitter boy is our Alli
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cant stand trumps supporters in the crowd, please just STFU one time
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Never read so much sh!te in my life.
Trump seems a decent sort done nothing wrong as far as I can see good luck to the lad. I don`t like this I don`t like that ffs sound like a bunch of jealous school girls,I nice dry slap wouldn`t go amiss. |
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only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner. carter should be revelling in his tremendous comeback not having cheap pops at trump.
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Whilst it's understandable that someone would celebrate a 147 at the Crucible, I still think Carter's reaction to hitting his was over he top and revealed him to be a bit of a thug. The fact he's friends with that other prat Peter Ebdon doesn't endear him to me either.
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been on the world snooker site and don't see this interview anywhere. Any links?
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they update the videos daily, seems to be no archives.
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a bad loser and a bad winner. a jealous little man is our ali it seems.
i hope trump bounces back. hes young and still learning. when you have a talent like his there are always begrudgers ready to knock you at every opportunity. |
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Carter.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJMWqLSPxfM&feature=relmfu
Trump.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATxwZ26sZkE&NR=1&feature=endscreen |