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Big game tonight on Sky... who do you fancy? I think Saints will be there or thereabouts personally this year and Warrington without two of their better players of last year in Briers and Hodgson might find things tougher this year. I think Saints will get off to a winning start, what do you think?
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It is absurd Vis, they just prove time and again that nobody in charge knows their arse from their elbow.
useless by the saints winger - stay away from that line so early you fool
Aye, dont worry lad, you are allowed to rip a man's head off in this game.
steve getting on my t*ts, every tackle is a sending off! This is a mans game, we also have yellow cards.
just that bentham left cards in changing rooms red card second half
Boys this is League, not football or union. League is tough game and you get big hits some go wrong, Red cards are for serious fouls. I have not seen one yet.
We've had 2 games and two massive clothesline 'tackles', neither of which have been punished to any greater degree than an obstruction or hands in the ruck.
Colour of the card is debatable, but if you are allowed to smash people right in the head there's going to be some serious injuries in this sport.
Colour of the card is debatable, but if you are allowed to smash people right in the head there's going to be some serious injuries in this sport.
this 2 doesn't make as big a difference as the market reckons
second week running a decent looking dog/fav ht/ft price is in tatters before HT
Why have Saints collapsed from 1.3 to 1.15 from 2 points?
Feb 13, 2014 -- 8:46PM, RugbyMan wrote:
We've had 2 games and two massive clothesline 'tackles', neither of which have been punished to any greater degree than an obstruction or hands in the ruck.Colour of the card is debatable, but if you are allowed to smash people right in the head there's going to be some serious injuries in this sport.
ive not seen massive clothesline tackles. I seen one where he hit the shoulder with great force and his arm went up and hit him in the face, this happens. If he flew in and swung his arm straight in his face, that is a clothesline and a red card.
Last week's should have been red and this was yellow debatable red
Anyone else tempted to dive in massively on Warrington? I can't be having 1.15 here with a 16 point lead. I make Saints 1.25.
Second week running the forum and dare I say the comms have opposed the market.
He took a massive swing and I'm buggered if I can see where he hits a shoulder and slips up. A straight arm cracks Monaghan right in mouth. You can't hit a shoulder first if you are dead in front and your arm is swinging towards a player.
Soliola wants to do some damage and if he hits him lower he's ok, although still has questions to answer about whether he has made an attempt to wrap his arms. If he just smashes his man in the mouth I don't see what excuses he has?
Soliola wants to do some damage and if he hits him lower he's ok, although still has questions to answer about whether he has made an attempt to wrap his arms. If he just smashes his man in the mouth I don't see what excuses he has?
Yeah tackle has to be made with 2 arms the more I watch it back the worst it gets
Cheap shot just like Westwood in last years grand final
He hits top of his shoulder at pace and arm goes up, very common in league done loads of those myself :-) no drama. Penalty and on report correct call.
"bobweenit" i can tackle someone with one arm if i wish, as long as i have the power to do it with one arm
"bobweenit" i can tackle someone with one arm if i wish, as long as i have the power to do it with one arm
2nd week running HT / FT market's seemingly odd prices have been proven correct!
anyway it is lovely to have an opinion. enjoy the game.
I've laid a bit at this price moaner. A touch more hopeful than last week of a comeback but realistically this game is done.
Not the way Warrington are playing.. this will be an annihilation
Will beg to differ then that's gbh in the street Nothing wrong with a slight miss timed tackle but that was straight in the mush with intent
You see comebacks all the time in RL. And for the market to move so much on 2 points is daft.
I'd get this young lad, Myler on for the 2nd half. Believe he's England material.
It's crazy that a high tackle isn't a mandatory yellow card.
A high tackle is an offence because a serious injury could result: cheekbone, eye socket, windpipe etc.
An incorrect play the ball gets a whistle and a pen, an arm to the throat or higher should be 10 minutes in the bin, minimum.
A high tackle is an offence because a serious injury could result: cheekbone, eye socket, windpipe etc.
An incorrect play the ball gets a whistle and a pen, an arm to the throat or higher should be 10 minutes in the bin, minimum.
But Warrington are completely clueless.. no comebacks here.. the Warrington crowd should just slip off to IKEA and get a few bits and pieces
This 1.1 shot is a train to 1.01 CHOO CHO NO COMEBACKS CHOO CHOO THE SAINTS TRAIN HAS DEPARTED
Are you watching the same tackle der der? Soliola isn't making a normal tackle and getting it slightly wrong, he's having a go at doing some damage by putting in a big straight arm. If it goes low thats ok, if he gets it wrong it could seriously injure someone and isn't legal which is exactly what cards are for.
RFL loves to talk about player safety every season. Not sure what exactly it is they do about it though. Blood from the mouth of a player who's just been assaulted - nothing done....
RFL loves to talk about player safety every season. Not sure what exactly it is they do about it though. Blood from the mouth of a player who's just been assaulted - nothing done....
If Warrington are planning to play Monaghan at half-back all season they are going to lose a lot of games.
Woeful performance. Saints look easy, easy winners.
Woeful performance. Saints look easy, easy winners.
That Warrington team talk at half time went well then
bloody hell hope this doesn't turn into the 2012 season - that was an awful year for one sided games
Warrington are brutally weak. Seem to have no strength in defence
Their defence is poor.. their kicking game is shocking.. and they are clueless in the final third.. not good
I went into Laddies at one o clock to back St Helens on the handicap. They have a little self serve machine in there and I saw Saints were 5/6 -6.5.
So writes a bet out an takes it to the counter and the manager says they are -4 on the handicap, where you getting -6.5 from ?
I says from that machine over there. He says I can only give you 5/6 -4.
So I went back to the machine,and let me tell you I could not get the notes in quick enough.
So writes a bet out an takes it to the counter and the manager says they are -4 on the handicap, where you getting -6.5 from ?
I says from that machine over there. He says I can only give you 5/6 -4.
So I went back to the machine,and let me tell you I could not get the notes in quick enough.
Laddies and putting handicap lines on their slips are two things that rarely go together.
So you glady took 2.5 points less than you thought you were getting chipfire? Strange.
Would be nice to get a contest in one of these live games at some point.
Did the same thing in paddy power the other the price was a few ticks. better on the self service paid out as well . Would have been interesting if wolves won by four if ladcrooks would ha e paid out? Can't argue with this score though
Roy Asotasi looks a poor replacement for Morley on this showing
Yeah I'm dubious when a member of staff puts a price on a slip but when its a self serve machine and its automatically done I cant see them getting out of paying up.
My mate who has his bets limited at the counter went in 10 minutes later and reckons he got as much on as he wanted.You reckon we will get paid ?
Tried uploading photo of the slip but says has to be approved by Moderators first.
My mate who has his bets limited at the counter went in 10 minutes later and reckons he got as much on as he wanted.You reckon we will get paid ?
Tried uploading photo of the slip but says has to be approved by Moderators first.
Ladcrooks once took 200 notes out of my account 6 months after a bet had been settled saying the handicap price at the time was wrong. The cap was to big at the time
after a bit of complaining got it back. Can't see them arguing with the bet as saints have won but wouldn't shock me
after a bit of complaining got it back. Can't see them arguing with the bet as saints have won but wouldn't shock me
No Vis sorry my typo.
They were 5/6 + 4 at the counter and 5/6 + 6.5 on the machine.
I only had 60 on, but me mate who normally has his bets limited at the counter managed to get £300 on, then had a cover on Warrington to win by 6-10 at 11/2.He said if Warrington won by more than 10 he would stop gambling.
Seems strange they can limit your bets at the counter then they put a self serve machine in the shop which will let you do what you want ?
They were 5/6 + 4 at the counter and 5/6 + 6.5 on the machine.
I only had 60 on, but me mate who normally has his bets limited at the counter managed to get £300 on, then had a cover on Warrington to win by 6-10 at 11/2.He said if Warrington won by more than 10 he would stop gambling.
Seems strange they can limit your bets at the counter then they put a self serve machine in the shop which will let you do what you want ?
See what happens when you put a halfback on the pitch.
Makes you wonder how the machines and counter can get different prices. Surely they all run off the same system??
Was a bit of a drift on Warrington, so maybe the machine is just behind and hasn't caught up. Very strange use of technology if that is the case though.
Yes, best team won and won very easy, which is the surprising thing. I've not made nearly as much as I should have here.
OK chipfie with you on the story now.
Well that was a huge bonus as you well know getting an extra 2.5 points covering the crucial 6 point gap in the process.
When I looked online this pm Saints were +4 online with Lads but that was a couple of hours after you bet, but I know sometimes online and shop prices can be different. Can't comment on self serv machines in shops as I have never used one of those.
You're getting paid regardless as they can't void it even if they say +4 was the line you are well on a winner
Well that was a huge bonus as you well know getting an extra 2.5 points covering the crucial 6 point gap in the process.
When I looked online this pm Saints were +4 online with Lads but that was a couple of hours after you bet, but I know sometimes online and shop prices can be different. Can't comment on self serv machines in shops as I have never used one of those.
You're getting paid regardless as they can't void it even if they say +4 was the line you are well on a winner
Our Coral has a machine but it's only for the very basics like match odds.
Fair play to saints, strengthened up on the left side a lot
Feb 13, 2014 -- 9:44PM, RugbyMan wrote:
Us yokels never get owt....
Sounds like I might have to wander into some shops sometime then and check out these machines
Hells bells, Walsh into 4/1 for Man of Steel I reckon 
Yes Saints were being backed this morning and a couple of firms had shifted handicaps from + 6 to + 4.
I checked on here at the time and Saints were 1.98 - 4.5, and 365 were 4/5 Saints -4.5
To be fair the shop manager said if its bigger on the machine use the machine, and I said well if you giving money away I might as well have some.
I checked on here at the time and Saints were 1.98 - 4.5, and 365 were 4/5 Saints -4.5
To be fair the shop manager said if its bigger on the machine use the machine, and I said well if you giving money away I might as well have some.
shambles tonight Wire
Well done those who picked this one out.
Well done those who picked this one out.
Long way to go this season. Let's not jump to conclusions just yet. Personally, I think Wire have been woeful as opposed to Saints being awesome.
Not sure about Wheeler being good enough to earn a place in the team but the rest of the backline looks very tasty, in particular the back three.
Indeed, Warrington just looked a shambles, but Saints can only beat what is put in front of them and they beat them very well.
Same as when the supermarkets first brought. In self service had a few freebies on that but the scales r laser like these days
Wheeler is the best player in that backline! (Apart from Lomax.)
I noticed in the RP this morning it said Stefan Ratchford was Warringtons new playmaker, dunno what others reckon, but personally I dont think he's as good as some make out.
Not gonna write them off on the basis of one performance, but be interesting to see how they priced up at Leeds next Friday
Not gonna write them off on the basis of one performance, but be interesting to see how they priced up at Leeds next Friday
Warrington have a few Ratchfords. Him and Myler don't really look like top4 superleague playmakers at all, Monaghan just isn't a half-back either.
Surely Walsh is the best player in the St Helens backline on that performance! Looked very classy tonight.
? what other sport needs a referee on hand to give THIS WEEKS interpretation of the rules.Referee,s are a joke , always have been.Two linesmen plus ingoal judges plus him upstairs and they still get more wrong than right.isometimes think they do it on purpose just to keep themselves in the headlines,Ganson was the classic
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