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Ozymandius
14 Mar 13 22:09
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Venue: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff Date: Saturday, 16 March Kick-off: 17:00

Wales: Leigh Halfpenny (Blues); Alex Cuthbert (Blues), Jonathan Davies (Scarlets), Jamie Roberts (Blues), George North (Scarlets); Dan Biggar (Ospreys), Mike Phillips (Bayonne); Gethin Jenkins (capt, Toulon), Richard Hibbard (Ospreys), Adam Jones (Ospreys), Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys) Ian Evans (Ospreys), Sam Warburton (Blues), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys), Toby Faletau (Dragons).

Replacements: Ken Owens (Scarlets), Paul James (Bath), Scott Andrews (Blues), Andrew Coombs (Dragons), Aaron Shingler (Scarlets), Lloyd Williams (Blues), James Hook Perpignan), Scott Williams (Scarlets)

England team: A Goode (Saracens); C Ashton (Saracens), M Tuilagi (Leicester), B Barritt (Saracens), M Brown (Harlequins); O Farrell (Saracens), B Youngs (Leicester); J Marler (Harlequins), T Youngs (Leicester), D Cole (Leicester), J Launchbury (Wasps), G Parling (Leicester), T Croft (Leicester), C Robshaw (Harlequins, capt), T Wood (Northampton).

Replacements: D Hartley (Northampton), D Wilson (Bath), M Vunipola (Saracens), C Lawes (Northampton), J Haskell (Wasps), D Care (Harlequins), T Flood (Leicester), B Twelvetrees (Gloucester).

Referee; Steve 'Hollywood' Walsh
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Report Glossy March 16, 2013 6:29 PM GMT
OK.
Report A.H HUNTER esq. March 16, 2013 6:29 PM GMT
England will murder Wales in the world cup ,Wales dont believe they can win a world cup ,they will have one big game in them ,that will be it .  Quarter final team . Do not have the mentality to win a world cup.
Report attitude adjuster March 16, 2013 6:30 PM GMT
England were lucky to get that 3 tbf WinkWinkHappy
Report Paapaaa March 16, 2013 6:30 PM GMT
This is such a joy to see rugby winning out.  The Gym Monkeys have been well and truly put in their place by both Wales and finally ref'd correctly.
Report sewter lives again March 16, 2013 6:30 PM GMT
comms are right no matter how you think Walsh has reffed the game the english back row has been owned by SW/tip
Report TheVis March 16, 2013 6:30 PM GMT
that has to be a card Mr Walsh
Report Rainier Wolfcastle March 16, 2013 6:30 PM GMT
Come on Walsh where's the yellow for that?
Report Love the green March 16, 2013 6:30 PM GMT
lol wat np yellow card because it would ruin the game??
Report attitude adjuster March 16, 2013 6:31 PM GMT
LaughLaugh
Report Dr.Cypionate March 16, 2013 6:31 PM GMT
wtf was that
Report in hell March 16, 2013 6:31 PM GMT
Care LaughLaughLaugh WTF was that
Report Dr.Cypionate March 16, 2013 6:31 PM GMT
we must be watching bbc wales
Report yummy March 16, 2013 6:31 PM GMT
I'm glad England won't get the Grand Slam playing their brand of rugby. Admirable though they are they don't  do it for me.
Report alun2005 March 16, 2013 6:32 PM GMT
Wales can't mess this up can they?

Layed a bit of 1.01 the Outright Winner just in case it ends in tears
Report TheVis March 16, 2013 6:32 PM GMT
all we need now are 3 Eng tries to gub the 1.01 outright Laugh
Report sewter lives again March 16, 2013 6:32 PM GMT
has Tom Croft been playing?
Report TheVis March 16, 2013 6:33 PM GMT
the 1.01 chance went Alun when walsh didn't card big mike
Report yummy March 16, 2013 6:33 PM GMT
30-3

Where have I seen that score before in Cardiff

Wales v Ireland. 45mins gone
Report attitude adjuster March 16, 2013 6:34 PM GMT
not a bad night to be out in Cardiff Mischief
Report Dr.Cypionate March 16, 2013 6:34 PM GMT
look at walsh..just loving the attention
Report alun2005 March 16, 2013 6:34 PM GMT
Poor old Brian sounds like he's in tears of seething incandescent rage
Report curious-cat March 16, 2013 6:35 PM GMT
eeven in Caroline Street aa ? Laugh
Report Dr.Cypionate March 16, 2013 6:35 PM GMT
you're a disgrace walsh
Report Monstrous Bryan March 16, 2013 6:35 PM GMT
Walsh loves to look up at the big screen to see if he's on cam
Report alun2005 March 16, 2013 6:35 PM GMT
Cheers Vis.
Report yummy March 16, 2013 6:35 PM GMT
England would have won if Walsh wasn't reffing
Report MiltonF March 16, 2013 6:36 PM GMT
England are overrated gym monkey kar p
Report alun2005 March 16, 2013 6:36 PM GMT
I can't wait to read the London papers to see how Hollywood Steve cost the Golden Generation Greatest Team of All Time the Grand Slam
Report tommo0001 March 16, 2013 6:36 PM GMT
cardiff pub and bar owners now doing somersaults and on lastminute.com booking their holidaysHappy
Report Kriskin March 16, 2013 6:36 PM GMT
The Lions squad will be full of Welsh players
Report The Walker March 16, 2013 6:36 PM GMT
The bottom line is eng have been poor, worse since the subs have been made!
Report stewardsenquirey March 16, 2013 6:37 PM GMT
Yummy,you can't be serious if you think Walsh has won Wales this game ?
Report curious-cat March 16, 2013 6:38 PM GMT
TheVis

16 Mar 13 18:30

that has to be a card Mr Walsh

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a get well card Vis ? ( to the England team )
Report TheVis March 16, 2013 6:38 PM GMT
bloody hell brown makes his first ever break and then knocks on Cry
Report attitude adjuster March 16, 2013 6:38 PM GMT
Laugh
Report Dr.Cypionate March 16, 2013 6:38 PM GMT
brown you fkin knob!
Report sewter lives again March 16, 2013 6:39 PM GMT
ah yes Tom Croft is playing
Report alun2005 March 16, 2013 6:39 PM GMT
Unlucky Crofty
Report A.H HUNTER esq. March 16, 2013 6:39 PM GMT
Oh my gawd Mike Brown has been outstandingly awful in both defence and attack .
Report lanza March 16, 2013 6:40 PM GMT
yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh


well done wales!!!!
Report curious-cat March 16, 2013 6:40 PM GMT
like most male appendages yummy has only one eye.
Report A.H HUNTER esq. March 16, 2013 6:41 PM GMT
Well done Wales !!!

  Will lift the nation .
Report TheVis March 16, 2013 6:41 PM GMT
look at clueless Ashton there completely over running that ball and leaving his wing wide open.

Parling the only one to have turned up for Eng today.
Report curious-cat March 16, 2013 6:41 PM GMT
put them out of their misery Walsh !
Report TheVis March 16, 2013 6:41 PM GMT
lol and then even he drops it Laugh
Report ;[p March 16, 2013 6:42 PM GMT
great match ,great win for wales
Report Kriskin March 16, 2013 6:42 PM GMT
Mike Tindall & Sara Phillips will be seething

LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Kriskin March 16, 2013 6:42 PM GMT
Zara

Laugh
Report red and white March 16, 2013 6:43 PM GMT
Well done Wales. England have been a rotten team to watch over the last three games.
Report JOCI Club March 16, 2013 6:44 PM GMT
MAGNIFICENT!
Report Latalomne March 16, 2013 6:45 PM GMT
Well at least it was close....  Surprised
Report Kingmambo March 16, 2013 6:45 PM GMT
Great win, Tipuric and Warburton outstanding - well they all were to be fair.  Just a word for 3-step Mike, he has his critics and I've had plenty of pops in the past, but he always turns up for the big ones.
Report Early Morning Riser March 16, 2013 6:46 PM GMT
The english will be on now to say the ref was biased against themWhoops
Report alun2005 March 16, 2013 6:46 PM GMT
I love Zara

Love

WALES ARE CHAMPIONS  !!!
Report bobbyjo March 16, 2013 6:46 PM GMT
Warren Gatland must be c*ck a hoop
Report sonofshinner March 16, 2013 6:47 PM GMT
it was like watching barcelona v accrington stanley.
Report vinnie_roe March 16, 2013 6:48 PM GMT
Wales would have won the world cup, if Warburton didn't receive that red card.
Report uncle nasty March 16, 2013 6:50 PM GMT
trundling forwards with no ball in hand or running skills.
Report alun2005 March 16, 2013 6:51 PM GMT
Have Moore and Guscott and co come up with an explanation for the ANNIHILATION yet?
Report MiltonF March 16, 2013 6:52 PM GMT
They have put it down to experience which England will learn fromLaugh
Report The Walker March 16, 2013 6:55 PM GMT
Eng going to have to have a good look at those players who didn't turn up today!
Report Early Morning Riser March 16, 2013 6:56 PM GMT
National papers now looking for something else to put on the front pages.Laugh
Report sewter lives again March 16, 2013 6:59 PM GMT
i blame the stadium roof

playing golf with the groundsman tomorrow morning so will find out wtf he told Lancaster!!
Report lanza March 16, 2013 7:00 PM GMT
Sad  vinny.
Report MiltonF March 16, 2013 7:01 PM GMT
I blame too much media intrusion in the England campLaugh
Report stewardsenquirey March 16, 2013 7:02 PM GMT
The facts are is this England team is nowhere near the finished article that some thought they were.
That victory against the AB'S gave loads of false hope.
This will be a good England team........in about 2-3 years.
Report alun2005 March 16, 2013 7:03 PM GMT
Surely there's a good opportunity for a Chance Human Rights Lawyer to plead England's case in the European Courts re: Walsh?
Report sewter lives again March 16, 2013 7:06 PM GMT
alun

he had our trousers down and........well you know the rest

he didnt even try to "level things up" by yellow carding Mike at the end
Report alun2005 March 16, 2013 7:16 PM GMT
It's just about the first time I've watched him ref a game and managed to avoid getting myself seethed up with apopleptic rage.
Report Mr PEW March 16, 2013 7:27 PM GMT
Let's be honest - it was a poor 6 Nations - Wales 's first half against Ireland was awful, Ireland lose to Italy  , who were unlucky not to beat England . The French have been tragic, the Scots have even turned up to play ! .

The end result is , once again , the English have failed when they had it all at their feet . Not only have some of their glamour boys failed to take their chances at this championship - they will have failed to become Lions !!
Report RememberJeremyBates March 16, 2013 7:53 PM GMT
But didn't they fail in style?
Report lanza March 16, 2013 7:53 PM GMT
Laugh rjb
Report TheVis March 16, 2013 7:59 PM GMT
It's always a poor 6N on this board Laugh
Report chatto March 16, 2013 8:06 PM GMT
Anyone who prefers rugby union to rugby league must be bonkers.
Report TheVis March 16, 2013 8:14 PM GMT
um noargeagn aeasdg ladfljsao LoveCoolGrinLaugh
Report Early Morning Riser March 16, 2013 8:32 PM GMT
chatto's blog
Anyone who prefers rugby union to rugby league must be bonkers.



Rugby league is for nancy boys
Report stewardsenquirey March 16, 2013 8:36 PM GMT
Rugby league is more physical than Union in my opinion,but neither codes are for any nancy  boys.
Report sewter lives again March 16, 2013 8:38 PM GMT
not so sure stewards

union players definitely bigger and heavier
Report sewter lives again March 16, 2013 8:40 PM GMT
but I agree not for nancy boys
Report stewardsenquirey March 16, 2013 8:46 PM GMT
I work with a guy that has played both codes at quite a high standard.He swears League is.But like I say,it's only the opinion I've made,and wouldn't claim to be correct.
Report JOCI Club March 16, 2013 11:51 PM GMT
Can barely remember Wales playing with such ferocity and commitment. Some of the tackling was out of this world. Hibbard was like a madman!

Not sure where they pulled that game from, but there were not to be denied. They wanted it, and played like warriors.

Smashed England in the scrum, and defended like demons and took their chances.

Fantastic stuff!
Report stewardsenquirey March 17, 2013 12:00 AM GMT
Does this mean Wales will take over from the over hype of England winning the rugby WC now ?
England have more chance of winning it than Wales,and England have very little.
Report clarkey March 17, 2013 12:08 AM GMT
I may be living in a parallel universe here but how on earth can you say England have a better chance of winning the World cup than Wales based on todays game???!!!!

England were completely outclassed in every department,they still lack any creativity whatsoever,and their pack is not in the top 6 packs in the world.

They did very well to only lose by 27 points given the gulf in class and they wont be beating that Welsh team in a hurry.
Report DancingBraveTheBest March 17, 2013 12:21 AM GMT
tbh considering england have a population of 40 odd million and wales only 3 million i think wales were amazing. we love our rugby in wales and am very proud tonite. we looked awesome Happy
Report Eeternaloptimist March 17, 2013 12:25 AM GMT
There has to be a question whether Wales can play better than that or indeed reach that level of intensity playing in England during the world cup. Irrespective England have a good record at world cups because nearly every game they play outside a world cup the other team has some real or imaginary grievance which turns them into mad axemen. By the time world cups come around England are usually (not always) battle hardened by these encounters and they too play like mad axemen thus negating the usual advantage of the other team.

It will certainly be an interesting group with England, Wales and the Aussies but history tells us that England or France are the only teams likely to win a world cup. Wales could do so with this team but they will have to learn not to accept the mantle of unlucky or plucky losers.

Well done today.
Report Eeternaloptimist March 17, 2013 12:26 AM GMT
By England and France I mean northern hemisphere.
Report Northofperth March 17, 2013 1:02 AM GMT
Well done Wales , you played like you wanted to win it more than England . You get out of a season what you put into it .
Report razz March 17, 2013 1:15 AM GMT
some night to be out in cardiff, wish i was back home
Report stewardsenquirey March 17, 2013 3:49 AM GMT
That will have done that Young England team the world of good losing like that on a big occassion.I rate this England team,but was gald they got don't on their but today because they were over hyped(From media and Public,not Lancaster)
Last time I checked the RWC is in 2015,England will do far better than Wales imho.
Out of all the 6 Nations teams,England are the only one that have potential.
Like it or not,it's the truth.
Report JOCI Club March 17, 2013 6:40 PM GMT
Cymru am byth!
Report cardifffc March 17, 2013 10:24 PM GMT
steard..........what game did you watch.........not the same as the rest of us......you could take zero encouragement for englands WC chances
Report cardifffc March 17, 2013 10:25 PM GMT
steward*
Report DancingBraveTheBest March 17, 2013 10:43 PM GMT
yes, very strange comments by stewards, think he must be trying to wind us up as he cant possibly be serious.
Report clarkey March 17, 2013 10:58 PM GMT
He must be.It's a fair case to say Scotland are about where England are at the moment and i wouldn't like to call the winner of that one in a one off World Cup game.
Report JOCI Club March 17, 2013 11:15 PM GMT
No need for an over reaction to today's game. Before today, Wales played average rugby at best. Outplayed by Ireland first half, then decent (but no more) victories against France, Italy and Scotland (admittedly away from home), being 6 Nations champions does not make us world beaters. If we can play like we did against England in every game, then that's a different matter.

For now, let's enjoy the moment!
Report patrick starr March 17, 2013 11:32 PM GMT
indeed JOCI! they're lousy chariots were last seen with no wheels,blocking the bryn glas tunnel. Wink

Feels great to DESTROY them and to watch the pathetic attempts to pick something from the ashes by their fans is just comedy gold!
Report johnizere March 18, 2013 7:59 AM GMT
Report TheVis March 18, 2013 10:08 AM GMT
Why shouldn't Eng fans pick something from the ashes?  This is the best side we have had since 2003 and we then sat through 9 years of dross.  We don't get many chances to be encouraged and there are some good signs there compared to previous regimes post RWC win.  Eng may not be that good, but they have beaten the best.  Wales may not be that good either, given it is not so long ago that they lost 8 on the bounce.

Let's not also forgot this was the worst 6N ever.  Not a view I agree with, but the usual line was being trotted out once again on here - mostly when it looked like Eng were going to win it Laugh
Report Rainier Wolfcastle March 18, 2013 11:55 AM GMT
Absolutely Vis. I agree laregely with Eternaloptimist. Most opponents raise their game for a match against England, it's the way of the world and there's no denying it. England got to a WC final with the worst team they've had in 10 years in 2007 and they are AT HOME in 2015.
Report sewter lives again March 18, 2013 6:48 PM GMT
a complete over reaction as usual, of course Wales were excellent on the day and thoroughly enjoyed spoiling the party prepared by the English media hype machine.
With twats like Inverdale spouting complete bollox-none worse than the ridiculous half time time comments in the Italy game.

England cannot be assessed on purely 1 loss just as Wales cant be rated by 1 win as there are so many ifs and buts. For example what if Tuilagi hadn't dropped the easy run in under the posts after 10 minutes-a different game then I would have thought.

I went to the Wales/Arg match in November where pretty much the same Welsh team was piss poor and got stuffed. Likewise you cant rate Wales on one loss to a very poor 3rd tier Ireland.

Of course England will take something from the Ashes for the very reasons that Vis gives, plus by and large it was a young and inexperienced team especially compared to the Welsh team. A big criticism from my Celtic friends appears to be England's lack of creativity well from my perspective I would love England to see England line up something like

9  Take your pick
10 Freddie
11 Strettle
12 12trees
13 Tuilangi
14 Anyone but Ashton
15 Brown/Foden

Well done Wales

ps such a shame that the try scoring English born/educated Cuthbert decided to jump ship
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