england: 15 A Goode, 15 C Ashton, 13 M Tuilagi, 12 B Barritt, 11 M Brown, 10 T Flood, 9 D Care, 8 T Wood, 7 C Robshaw, 6 J Haskell, 5 G Parling, 4 J Launchbury, 3 D Cole, 2 T Youngs, 1 M Vunipola. Replacements: 16 D Hartley, 17 D Wilson, 18 J Marler, 19 C Lawes, 20 T Croft, 21 B Youngs, 22 F Burns, 23 B Twelvetrees
Italy: 15 A Masi, 14 G Venditti, 13 G Canale, 12 G Garcia, 11 L McLean, 10 L Orquera, 9 E Gori, 8 S Parisse, 7 R Barbieri, 6 A Zanni, 5 J Furno, 4 Q Geldenhuys, 3 M Castrogiovanni, 2 L Ghiraldini, 1 A De Marchi Replacements: 16 D Giazzon, 17 A Lo Cicero, 18 L Cittadini, 19 A Pavanello, 20 F Minto, 21 S Favaro, 22 T Botes, 23 T Benvenuti
Lancaster has made five changes to his starting line-up following the victory over France two weeks ago •England have won all 18 previous meetings against Italy, spanning 22 years.
Italy are predictably massive underdogs heading into the clash having never beaten England and anything other than a win for the Grand Slam hopefuls would be classed as one of the biggest upsets in the competition's history
i think there is value in the handicapp betting -26 italy.is the way to go what do you think chaps
did you see the hierachy before the anthems all scarfed up,the young woman singing the anthem displaying bare shoulders,big tough rugby sorts,what a laugh,as for the game itself its rubbish.
did you see the hierachy before the anthems all scarfed up,the young woman singing the anthem displaying bare shoulders,big tough rugby sorts,what a laugh,as for the game itself its rubbish.
every penalty takes over a minute...every line out the same..scrums take forever.
ball in play for about 20 minutes
if they were playing league they would get slaughtered
drivel..every penalty takes over a minute...every line out the same..scrums take forever.ball in play for about 20 minutesif they were playing league they would get slaughtered
They fail secure restart Give away penalty Put no pressure on restart Allow kick to go into touch Kick ball ten yards backwards Give up a try
All that in two minutes
My local team could be more professional
Try Italy This pure embarrassing since scoring a penaltyThey fail secure restartGive away penaltyPut no pressure on restartAllow kick to go into touchKick ball ten yards backwardsGive up a tryAll that in two minutesMy local team could be more profess
England to score at least 5 tries says Sir Clive .
The establishment is all over this game .
Butler and Robertson are more one eyed for England than Sir Clive .
England should be dominating world rugby , makes me vomit !!
Love it ! Love it !England to score at least 5 tries says Sir Clive .The establishment is all over this game .Butler and Robertson are more one eyed for England than Sir Clive .England should be dominating world rugby , makes me vomit !!
It's a sad thing to see the players we all know are weak links keep getting picked, then play poorly again.
Flood is somewhat forced through injuries (Burns is only just back from a period out) but Ashton meanwhile, well I simply don't see the point in him being on the field. His positioning is poor, he misses tackles, the try was scored down his wing yet again. What does he offer?
This was a good game to bring in a different winger (something already overdue) but we stick with the same and he looks poor again.
It's a sad thing to see the players we all know are weak links keep getting picked, then play poorly again. Flood is somewhat forced through injuries (Burns is only just back from a period out) but Ashton meanwhile, well I simply don't see the point
I think that having a full back like Brown on the wing doesn't make you look exciting, but it does win games. Expecting to see England line up with Foden, Brown and Goode in the back-three at some point.
I think that having a full back like Brown on the wing doesn't make you look exciting, but it does win games. Expecting to see England line up with Foden, Brown and Goode in the back-three at some point.
Great to see that everyone has something massive to play for next week (bar Scotland).
Italy beat Ireland and they avoid the wooden spoon and finish 4th at worst. France need to win to avoid the spoon, but might get it anyway if Italy win their game. Ireland of course could get caught out by both if they don't play well in Rome.
Great to see that everyone has something massive to play for next week (bar Scotland).Italy beat Ireland and they avoid the wooden spoon and finish 4th at worst. France need to win to avoid the spoon, but might get it anyway if Italy win their game.
Think that is the best thing that could have happened to England ahead of next week. Get a stuttering, lumbering, almost undeserved win, which should help to temper the media somewhat, while also bringing about a renewed team focus.
Think that is the best thing that could have happened to England ahead of next week. Get a stuttering, lumbering, almost undeserved win, which should help to temper the media somewhat, while also bringing about a renewed team focus.
Apart from the winning aspect to the match , England supporters cant be over the moon tonight . Played with little flair , lost a lot of turnovers , surely this side did not beat the Kiwis .
Apart from the winning aspect to the match , England supporters cant be over the moon tonight . Played with little flair , lost a lot of turnovers , surely this side did not beat the Kiwis .
England have always sought to destroy the game,all about a single kicker of the ball.
Lucky to get the points yesterday........from Italia.......Vaffanculo,merda.
England have always sought to destroy the game,all about a single kicker of the ball.Lucky to get the points yesterday........from Italia.......Vaffanculo,merda.
Well we've seen how bad they can be,it goes without saying that a repeat of that performance and Wales will bury them. I wouldn't back England with stolen money if Fllod starts next week.
The early missed touch finders from Flood didn't help. They were on top very early and I think they would have got tries from one of the line outs and they would have won on the bridle.
A big positive is that they won when to me they seemed dead and buried
I doubt the points difference makes any difference now, the last thing the England team will want is to lose the match by a couple of points and win the competition.
It's all about the Grand Slam and winning the game or all that's gone before will mean nothing.
Well we've seen how bad they can be,it goes without saying that a repeat of that performance and Wales will bury them. I wouldn't back England with stolen money if Fllod starts next week.The early missed touch finders from Flood didn't help. They wer
Agreed. Will seem a bit hollow to lose the game but win the comp.
Robshaw will need to spend some time this week thinking about what to do at the end. Perhaps the most intriguing is what do you do if you are 3 down late and get kickable pen?
Agreed. Will seem a bit hollow to lose the game but win the comp.Robshaw will need to spend some time this week thinking about what to do at the end. Perhaps the most intriguing is what do you do if you are 3 down late and get kickable pen?
Kick for the corner. Not much to be gained by missing a grand-slam by a single point and if you bodge either Wales would still have a chance to go the length for a try to win the championship.
Would have been more interesting maybe if Wales only needed 6pts and England had a kickable pen at the end while 6pts down. Would have to take it I suppose, but would be nice to think that the try would be attempted, just doesn't make enough sense in what can be won and lost.
Strong claim for Wales being the best team in this tournament IF they hadn't played like tarts in the first 40 minutes against Ireland. Otherwise they have looked more dangerous than England and equally tough up front. You just can't have a 40 minute brain explosion and expect to win games though. Would have been an even better way to end the comp if they had beaten Ireland.
Kick for the corner. Not much to be gained by missing a grand-slam by a single point and if you bodge either Wales would still have a chance to go the length for a try to win the championship.Would have been more interesting maybe if Wales only neede