England v Exiles

Carl Ablett (Leeds Rhinos, Hunslet Parkside)
Ryan Atkins (Warrington Wolves, Stanningley)
Tom Briscoe (Hull FC, Featherstone Lions)
Danny Brough (Huddersfield Giants, Eastmoor Dragons)
Jodie Broughton (Salford City Reds, Queens)
Rob Burrow (Leeds Rhinos, Featherstone Lions)
Garreth Carvell (Warrington Wolves, Stanningley)
Josh Charnley (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)
Eorl Crabtree (Huddersfield Giants, Huddersfield YMCA)
Leroy Cudjoe (Huddersfield Giants, Newsome Panthers)
Gareth Hock (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Judes)
Jamie Jones-Buchanan (Leeds Rhinos, Stanningley)
Jonny Lomax (St Helens, Orrell St James)
Lee Mossop (Wigan Warriors, Hensingham)
Stefan Ratchford (Warrington Wolves, Wigan St Patricks)
James Roby (St Helens, Blackbrook)
Matty Smith (Salford City Reds, Blackbrook)
Danny Tickle (Hull FC, Golborne Parkside)
Jon Wilkin (St Helens, East Hull)

*Anthony Gelling, Wigan Warriors
Antonio Kaufusi, London Broncos
*Ben Galea, Hull Kingston Rovers
Brett Hodgson (Captain), Warrington Wolves
*Daniel Holdsworth, Salford City Reds
Daryl Millard, Catalan Dragons
David Faiumu, Huddersfield Giants
David Fa’alogo, Huddersfield Giants
Epalahame Lauaki, Wigan Warriors
Francis Meli, St Helens
*Heath L’Estrange, Bradford Bulls
*Jake Webster, Hull Kingston Rovers
*Jason Chan, Huddersfield Giants
Joel Monaghan, Warrington Wolves
*Joel Moon, Salford City Reds
Kylie Leuluai, Leeds Rhinos
Lance Hohaia, St Helens
*Michael Robertson, London Broncos
*Michael Dobson, Hull Kingston Rovers
Scott Dureau, Catalan Dragons
Sia Soliola, St Helens
*Steve Menzies, Catalan Dragons
Trent Waterhouse, Warrington Wolves
*Vince Mellars, Wakefield Trinity Wildcats
Willie Manu, Hull FC
*= uncapped by Exiles so far

Fancy the exiles here should the weather stay good

i see england not valuing this fixture already.  tickets are going for a fiver as well.  only way to get bums on seats in Huddersfield is to give them away for free.

Shoul be 90,000 turning up then.

if it was Wigan/Saints Bradford/Leeds at OT for 5 pound a pop like the Union games, then it would have no problem.  Not sure why you keep harping on about the 90,000 for the freebie event, if you want to go like for like the Union struggled to sell out for their "grand final" for many many years........the 70k plus at OT trafford and the viewing figures wipe the floor with the Union counterpart.

How does 70k at old trafford wipe the floor with 80k at Twickenham?

Or do we have to go back into the archives to find the answer to this one?

well i would love to know how all the empty seats would be considered a sell out?  I would say off the top of my head that the last 2 union GF's have looked full, before that the union fans struggled with the concept.

My dad is bigger than yours, bored of it now, im a lover not a fighter ;-)

80k+ since 2007

I like to keep it going to see what tricky logic you will come up with next. Lots of opinion disguised as fact so far. I have no doubt that if the figures don't work it will be the intensity of the crowds next.....

and like i said, lots of empty seats but they say its sold out, the RFU are masters at putting out attendances like 25,000 or 80,000. 

Bored.

i hear they even pay the extra VAT on the pretend sales to cover their tracks

seriously it is funny how many Union attendances are a round number

anyway, Union is much more intense than League, the UK club game is bigger than Super League, Aussie RL is only big in Sydney........i have learnt that now, sorry for being so naive.

That's a surprise Der Der you had me thinking there wasn't anything you didn't already know 

game 2 on tonight

These are the line-ups as far as I can work out:

Exiles

Brett Hodgson ,Joel Monaghan, Joel Moon, Daryl Millard,  Francis Meli,
Daniel Holdsworth, Scott Dureau,
Epalahame Lauaki, Heath L'Estrange, Anthony Laffranchi
Willie Manu, Steve Menzies, Sia Soliola,

Antonio Kaufusi, Lincoln Withers, Kyle Leuleuai, Constantin Mika

England

1 Stefan Ratchford, 2 Josh Charnley, 3 Leroy Cudjoe, 4 Ryan Atkins, 5 Tom Briscoe
6 Matty Smith, 7 Danny Brough
8 Eorl Crabtree, 9 James Roby, 10 Garreth Carvell
11 Carl Ablett, 12 Jon Wilkin (captain), 13 Jamie Jones-Buchanan

14 Rob Burrow, 15 Liam Farrell, 16 Lee Mossop, 17 Scott Taylor

Doesn't convince me that England should be favs whatsoever.

Draw price is yet again massive. Since when did evens start seeing the draw at 30+ again?

I also would have Exiles 1.5 favourites.

No doubt to me that the Exiles are a far better team in the backs. Question is how many tacklers do they have in the forwards?

fkuc me,we have to contend with stevo 3 times this week,im`e turning the sound off!

You can't have been listening to Eddie in the build up, he was probably worse!

Great patience there from Dureau. Miles clear as the best half-back on show here.

England shorter than they were pre match? Hmm, okay...

Exiles 6-0 up and only 10% lower than what I backed them at pre-match

why dont they have a yorkshire v lancashire  origin game?

that big chunk backing england at 1.7 still there when scored try

unreal

Can't believe the lack of atmosphere. Crowd looks and sounds non-existent.

Can't help but think that you'd never see this were it be England v Ba Ba's in union.

just think the concept difficult for crowd

not a true natural rivalry, players missing.

very hard for crowd to get overexcited

Clear knock-on by England and England end up with the advantage. Hope the reffing doesn't continue like that.

der_der will be on soon to tell us that there are 50,000 people there and it's intensity that matters......

How dreadful are England.

And as much as I hate this concept, the atmosphere isn't because of the game, but the venue.

for some reason,the huddersfield public don`t really do rugby league,giants attendances are extremely poor considering they have a good team,they ar`nt going to turn up for a meaningless match that costs 20 quid to watch

Cudjoe's favourite tactic there: Make a tackle because the player with the ball forgot about you after he ran straight through you......

£20 for this?

Well done RFL

Christ this is boring. I remember why I don't watch League now!

Origin this morning was as good as rugby gets.

This is not on the same planet.

Draw - 32 Pre match. Exiles dominating, and the draw into the teens! Most odd.

Huddersfield is a football town, not a rugby town. It was never clear why the RFL pumped money into Hudds (+Sheffield) in the early years of SL. I suspect it was something to do with Galpharm making promises. The support would have been much better directed at either Halifax or Keighley within the West Riding.

The whole concept of this Exiles thing is so flawed why would anyone spend money on it (or bet on it for that matter, but that's another story)?

Can't see the RFL doing this next year, there weren't so many at Saints either.

talk about smash and grab

Fair play, great break there.

who is that tw@t that kicked it again when 3m from the line?? That's twice now

England 1.83?

As suggested earlier, Lancashire v Yorkshire would have some sort of point to it.

This is so haphazard. Nobody knows what to do on the last tackle and half the players look like they are walking everywhere.

Lancs v Yorks failed. And the skill level isn't high enough to sustain.

Another awful last tackle option by the Exiles. Dire.

Very well worked try.

all down the right

Forget kicking Exiles, just head right every single time.

6-12

England left winger's defence ain't up to much.

Stevo blaming Atkins and Briscoe for that despite it not coming out to them. Forwards not numbering up and Brough going for the wrong man.

Nope, was Smith and not Brough.

Anyone know whether Karl Pryce is still knocking about?

this is no help to anyone,players scared of getting injured imo

Pryce is probably in line for losing his contract at Bradford (I think he's still there).

Gloucester will be on the phone pronto.......

You have to love how an inch forwards in the middle of the pitch is worth talking about, but 5 yards forwards out wide to score a try can be overlooked!

Well done Thaler, that's 6pts you've saved England.

Should be 6-18

When he first came down here he was being talked about as a future star. There were reports of him destroying people on the training field. Then it all kind of went downhill very quickly. Saw him come on for the last 20 minutes of a game and he looked awful. Overweight, slow and disinterested.

Well that's pissed me off.

I don't watch much rugby but why is the draw 20? I'm gonna lay that and see what happens.

It amazes me that a man who stands 6ft 6" and runs around all day (in theory) can have trouble keeping weight off.

Why is the draw 20? Because the teams look even. 20 is a huge price.

Again, England exposed down the right.

Great play Ratchford, backed up by some crap from Taylor.


Exiles come right and should score before half-time.

Ha ha, how easy is this predicting stuff? I should do it more often!

Atkins and Briscoe are not looking good, but I don't think it's actually them to a large degree. England are not numbering up and Smith, Atkins and Briscoe keep having 4 to deal with. Only one result in that case.

Briscoe is the best defensive winger England's seen for some time so he's not the problem. Which SR is out there? He should be doing a lot better.

i know england are missing personel,but come on,that was ****

one sad factor of summer rugby is the lack of a long aussie tour and the intensity it brought,they hav`nt toured here since 2003 and even then it was only 3 matches

Also have to say, I've not seen such a patriotic market before. The odds are so not reflecting the performances so far.

I don't think there is a second row out there, and that's the problem.

my only concern is that the exiles should be 20+ up. got a habit of coming back to haunt teams

Enjoyable so far

didn't he drop the ball ?

Well finished by Roger's brother.

.... after the forward pass that is.

He's not quite so foul mouthed....

2 more tries for me please. All going quite nicely at the moment. That always worries me.

In league forward passes only exist in the middle of the field when they possibly, but not definitely, go about 2 inches forwards. That was out wide and led to a score so is irrelevant.

Has Thaler given a pen yet?

Never seen a game played by such disciplined lads, apparently.

There it is.

Danny Brough just not good enough

Do think 1.0 is too short here however.

Lovely stuff Hodgson.

It's a great worry that England look clueless out wide while a patched together Exiles team at least know how to run an arc. Core skills etc etc.

The difference in skill levels is vast

Good timing in hell

Dureau has had a real mixed bag of a game. Involved in the best and worst of Exiles play.

Players like Ablett , Lamb chops and Cudjoe will never make the grade

I really don't think the answer to any question is Brough and Smith at half-back either.

Toying with them

That's pathetic defence

Dear oh dear. Holdsworth has had a field day today running through all this crap tackling.

14-30 ktc

At least we know that England are very good at wrestling players after they have tackled them. Been exceptional at that.

The idea that some of these players are internationals is absurd.

Can anyone tell me how never giving pens makes for an entertaining game?

lol that rule is so crap

What rule is that?????

His foot is out, how can that ball not be out. I don't see how that benefits anyone.

that rule changes nothing for the attacking side and buggers up the defensive side... and pretty unfairly at that

Best England move of the game, and it was still a shambles.

18-32 ktc

Pointless exercise, but an enjoyable betting game.

A nice lay of the draw. I'll have to do this more often.

why aren't they doing 3 games since they're basically trying to rehash state of origin anyways?

sky commentators its called clutching at straws....

Would lose too much money and piss too many people off I expect.

lol too true

Even Eddie and Stevo know they won't even be competitive with Australia in the World Cup.

Forget Australia actually, England couldn't even beat New South Wales never mind Queensland.

england couldnt beat an ashworth hospital xiii with brady playing hooker

The very best England have is still very good, but they are far too few. Burgess and Ellis have been massive hits over in Australia and Graham should join them. Nothing wrong with Tomkins and Roby, but after that you are already starting to scratch around. NSW would fear those players, but then start laughing when their 4th choice centre takes Cudjoe to the cleaners......

cudjoe....is he really the best england can muster