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Harlequins: 15 Mike Brown, 14 Ugo Monye, 13 George Lowe, 12 Jordan Turner-Hall, 11 Sam Smith, 10 Nick Evans, 9 Danny Care, 8 Nick Easter, 7 Chris Robshaw (capt), 6 Maurie Fa'asavalu, 5 George Robson, 4 Olly Kohn, 3 James Johnston, 2 Rob Buchanan, 1 Joe Marler.
Replacements: 16 Aston Croall, 17 Mark Lambert, 18 Will Collier, 19 Tomas Vallejos, 20 Tom Guest, 21 Karl Dickson, 22 Rory Clegg, 23 Ross Chisholm.
Leicester: 15 Geordan Murphy (capt), 14 Horacio Agulla, 13 Manusamoa Tuilagi, 12 Anthony Allen, 11 Alesana Tuilagi, 10 Toby Flood, 9 Ben Youngs, 8 Thomas Waldrom, 7 Julian Salvi, 6 Tom Croft, 5 Geoff Parling, 4 George Skivington, 3 Dan Cole, 2 George Chuter, 1 Marcos Ayerza.
Replacements: 16 Tom Youngs, 17 Logovi'i Mulipola, 18 Martin Castrogiovanni, 19 Graham Kitchener, 20 Steve Mafi, 21 Sam Harrison, 22 Billy Twelvetrees, 23 Scott Hamilton.
Date: Saturday, April 21
Kick-off: 15:15 BST
Venue: Twickenham Stoop
Referee: Wayne Barnes
Assistant referees: Greg Garner, Roy Maybank
Television match official: David Grashoff
The last time Quins faced a juggernaut forward pack was against Toulon, where they were turned inside out up-front and taken apart. This week their half-effective front-row of Marler and Johnston goes up against a serious scrummaging unit with Cole and Ayerza, which should tell. What will really make the difference is when Quins have to call on Lambert and Collier, while Leicester happily bring on Castro and Mulipola.
Leicester have taken 25pts from the last 5 games and are on a serious charge now, having ridded themselves of the call-ups and injuries that plagued them earlier. Not for the first time I think they would have cruised this league had they had something near to a full-strength team all season. Quins are still going well enough, but not looking nearly so impressive as Leicester.
It's not often I will be found backing against the top team in the league at home, but -2 on a team that should easily win the tight-five battle and has massive firepower all over the pitch seems too good to miss. Leicester want that home semi-final and they need to win this to keep that dream alive.
There are arguments to the contrary though, if anyone feels like pointing them out.
Replacements: 16 Aston Croall, 17 Mark Lambert, 18 Will Collier, 19 Tomas Vallejos, 20 Tom Guest, 21 Karl Dickson, 22 Rory Clegg, 23 Ross Chisholm.
Leicester: 15 Geordan Murphy (capt), 14 Horacio Agulla, 13 Manusamoa Tuilagi, 12 Anthony Allen, 11 Alesana Tuilagi, 10 Toby Flood, 9 Ben Youngs, 8 Thomas Waldrom, 7 Julian Salvi, 6 Tom Croft, 5 Geoff Parling, 4 George Skivington, 3 Dan Cole, 2 George Chuter, 1 Marcos Ayerza.
Replacements: 16 Tom Youngs, 17 Logovi'i Mulipola, 18 Martin Castrogiovanni, 19 Graham Kitchener, 20 Steve Mafi, 21 Sam Harrison, 22 Billy Twelvetrees, 23 Scott Hamilton.
Date: Saturday, April 21
Kick-off: 15:15 BST
Venue: Twickenham Stoop
Referee: Wayne Barnes
Assistant referees: Greg Garner, Roy Maybank
Television match official: David Grashoff
The last time Quins faced a juggernaut forward pack was against Toulon, where they were turned inside out up-front and taken apart. This week their half-effective front-row of Marler and Johnston goes up against a serious scrummaging unit with Cole and Ayerza, which should tell. What will really make the difference is when Quins have to call on Lambert and Collier, while Leicester happily bring on Castro and Mulipola.
Leicester have taken 25pts from the last 5 games and are on a serious charge now, having ridded themselves of the call-ups and injuries that plagued them earlier. Not for the first time I think they would have cruised this league had they had something near to a full-strength team all season. Quins are still going well enough, but not looking nearly so impressive as Leicester.
It's not often I will be found backing against the top team in the league at home, but -2 on a team that should easily win the tight-five battle and has massive firepower all over the pitch seems too good to miss. Leicester want that home semi-final and they need to win this to keep that dream alive.
There are arguments to the contrary though, if anyone feels like pointing them out.
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If you fancy points then dont bother placing a bet here..better value everywhere with the books by the looks!
All over Tigers 'ere, Quinns having already peaked this season as well. Also think the championship is Tigers to loose as they look a team apart of late, only potential banna being a fearless Chiefs team in a 1 off although they still gotta get past the saints tomorrow which may well be their undoing in a pressure situation.?
Leicester have tended to struggle with the strangling sort of game that Sarries have played against them, but Sarries themselves are down on a bit of man power and an away semi-final would put them in trouble. Leicester clear favs for the title on current form. Would love to see Exeter go all the way, but it's a step up in class now.
Quins are top of the table on merit, you don't get there at this stage of the season without deserving it. 6-10 is key for Quins and they are at full strength in those positions today. The first name to look for, of course, is Nick Evans who is without doubt in my mind the best 10 in the NH. Care has his detractors, but he is key to how Quins want to play and will look to speed game up wherever possible as they do not want to get drawn into an arm wrestle. Speaking of arm wrestles, they have a back row that often more than compensates for their shortcomings in the tight five and the set piece and in George Robson they arguably have an international quality lock. We've seen Australia remain competitive over the past ten years despite having nothing even closely resembling an international quality tight five. And Quins are at home.
That is the counter argument, but the fact remains that Leicester are on a tremendous run and have secured 25 points from their last five matches. They routed Saint at the Gardens last time out and will not be intimidated at all going to the Stoop. The benches should ultimately make the difference with Leicester able to call upon two international props in Mulipola and Castro. Leicester to pull clear in the last quarter.
That is the counter argument, but the fact remains that Leicester are on a tremendous run and have secured 25 points from their last five matches. They routed Saint at the Gardens last time out and will not be intimidated at all going to the Stoop. The benches should ultimately make the difference with Leicester able to call upon two international props in Mulipola and Castro. Leicester to pull clear in the last quarter.
on unders here..incredible value some absolute mugs taking almost evens on a line way higher than a high street bookie! its 13/8 over 44 with sids almost the same line here for just over evens now! then ya 4-5% comm!
I would back overs if I could be sure it would stay dry all game. The trouble is it is pouring down at my house, about 60 miles west of Twickenham, and the weather tends to head that way.
Leicester rarely seem capable of going unders these days, they even nearly made 40pts in a mudbath against Gloucester earlier this year.
Wouldn't be taking evens at 43.5pts though......
Leicester rarely seem capable of going unders these days, they even nearly made 40pts in a mudbath against Gloucester earlier this year.
Wouldn't be taking evens at 43.5pts though......
Plenty on Leicester then and a bit on overs.
Should be a cracking game here. About this time last year we got a 41-41 wasn't it..........
Should be a cracking game here. About this time last year we got a 41-41 wasn't it..........
Youngs gets away with moment of breathtaking stupidity.
Always a bit iffy when the scrum comes in like that. Looks like Ayerza was being driven into his hooker and went upwards. Going to have to stop Johnston coming around the outside because the bloke weighs a ton.
Certainly a pen, maybe even a penalty try anyway.
Hard to see it grounded though I would think.
Hard to see it grounded though I would think.
Wouldn't have had Ugo Monye down as a banker for a chip down the middle! Good reply from Quins.
Monye's kick chasing has been really good this year.
Watch him give away a pen at some point though for laying on a ruck, then looking indignant.
Watch him give away a pen at some point though for laying on a ruck, then looking indignant.
Does Youngs have some sort of a brain deficit? You've clearly got a massive advantage at lineout time yet he opts for another ridiculous quick tap into any number of defenders.
Looks like a premeditated ploy Dunc. Barnes does tend to pick up teams not retreating and Leicester's pace on the ball killed Northampton last week.
Not convinced about it though.
Not convinced about it though.
Hell of a pace to this game. I would love to believe that all the Premiership games left this season will be like this...
Well done Toby Flood, that was about as bad as you could possibly be. Massive gaps everywhere and he passes directly to Monye.
13-10
13-10
Apr 21, 2012 -- 3:35PM, RugbyMan wrote:
Hell of a pace to this game. I would love to believe that all the Premiership games left this season will be like this...
lol..yeah i switched soon as a saw what was going on they were looking to score trys and fast..to a big hit and took 1.5s overs
Seems like Flood doesn't want to be outdone by Youngs in the bungalow stakes and throws the easiest seven to Quins they have had all season. Cracking game.
in super league ventham and ganson would have chosen to not see that!
All goes wrong for Leicester very quickly. How it was a Quins pen in the first place after Easter sat on Allen I dont know, but thats a clear yellow.
16-10
16-10
Why on earth do teams throw to the tail when defending their own line? See it time after time. Ridiculously stupid.
Leicester's defending has been criminal so far. Croft falling over there.
Wish I had been braver on overs
Wish I had been braver on overs
Thought overs was a good bet until I saw the weather forecast.
Apr 21, 2012 -- 3:49PM, big_dunc wrote:
Thought overs was a good bet until I saw the weather forecast.
Thought about the weather also Dunc and took that into account and then the fact the line was 4 points higher here than everywhere else yet everyone was taking evens i ended up going for under, i switched at 1.5 for a small green and biggish red on under pretty early on soon as i saw how easy tigers mauled through quins and the fact they weren't bothered with kicks!
wasps jus conceded again & now no BP with about 7mins to play...... some scrap next weekend
Problem for Leicester is that their lineout has been significantly weakened with Croft going off.
About time Barnes had a word about the mauls here. Quins taken down 2 and would have killed a third had Leicester not gone over at the same time.
Ben Youngs is infuriating. The ball rolled out of that maul to his feet, but instead of playing it he stood there waving his arms at the ref and pointing to the tackled man.
Legs above horizontal is still a pen mr Barnes. Putting him down gently just stops it being a red. Can't really play on when someone's boots are pointing to the sun.
Tuilagi barely back on the pitch a minute and he gives away a daft pen.
Sam vesty has just committed Rugby hari kari at Bath. Celebrated the try and got held up
Superb work from Dan Cole. I think Youngs has bounced off just about every man he's tried to tackle today. Been an absolute shambles.
Just as I criticise Youngs he does his best work of the match. Couple of great passes followed by a nice half break that led to the try.
Quins turn to fall asleep.
Both teams a better attacking force than a defensive one. Somewhat unique in the premiership!
26-20
Both teams a better attacking force than a defensive one. Somewhat unique in the premiership!
26-20
Barnes needs to get a grip here. Quins have cynically killed it every chance they've got.
Really ought to be getting a card out now Wayne. Quins giving away a ton of pens in their own half.
26-23. Fascinating match.
26-23. Fascinating match.
Leic favs now for me as think they will grind this out 30 to 26 second half for an annoying 1pt win
What's Barnes getting booed for? Seems to have done a decent job for Quins here.
Cracking first half of rugby. Really need Leicester to get ahead in the second half as I'm balls deep after laying Quins at 1.34
all down to next week then for the one off relegation battle
actually that BP for Wasps is so very handy given their points difference that it should save them bar Newc going try mental which looks most unlikely next week
Newcastle need a BP win now though, right? Wasps points difference is much better...
Pretty easy to level off here Dunc. I'm definitely greening this one up fully, after I failed to get fully out earlier. Good game for low lays, but working out who wins it from here aint too easy.
Leicester's bench still looks the stronger, but with so few scrums the props aren't blowing too hard yet.
Leicester's bench still looks the stronger, but with so few scrums the props aren't blowing too hard yet.
Yes, think it needs a miracle now for Newcastle to stay up. Serves them right for wasting so many chances, last night and previously this season.
Think the possibility of rain is keeping it down with only three between the teams.
Newc should have realised that aiming for a draw last night was no bad thing. They certainly gave up enough chances at 3 when never looking like getting a try all night.
Got no option but to fling it about against Wasps anyway, which is hardly going to suit them. Wasps defence is hardly impregnable though. Good to have a final round decider. Sarries v Exeter as well.
What an absolutely farcical decision from Barnes! Come back for the knock on advantage after they get the chance to clear their lines!
Good to see him getting on top of the scrums. Johnston gives away pens every single week because he doesn't drive straight and forgets to bind. Quins need to sign a prop and a lock this summer, as they did last year, and they will have a real team. Think they are always going to be just a little short of power at the moment though.
And another scrum goes in a circle because Johnston is pushing right across it.......
Great finish Quins. Frustrating to watch these scrums though.
Great finish Quins. Frustrating to watch these scrums though.
Shambolic covering from Murphy and a well taken try. Cracking game.
Leicester make half the pitch by taking short passes into contact but as soon as they get into the Quins 22 look to put width on it off slow ball. Shocking decision making.
Johnston boring in yet again at that scrum. Surely Barens is asking himself why they keep wheeling.
Every now and then a Leicester player will do the worst thing he can possibly do. Hence Allen kicking the ball out there. So many good options, he takes a poor one.
Leicester have to realise at some point that they have a serious power advantage and to try to use it.
Turnover ball with a line of attackers outside and Youngs kicks it out.
What an absolute dirtbag Bryan Redpath is. Gets a great coaching position with a big club, doesn't make the most of it, then goes before the end of the season and sends his team into complete breakdown.
Doubt he will get a very good reception when he returns to Kingsholm next season.
Glos 19-24 Sale FT
Doubt he will get a very good reception when he returns to Kingsholm next season.
Glos 19-24 Sale FT
I see Sale score points when they aint playing at their depressing ground!
How come Alessana Tuilagi hasn't knocked-on continuously in these last few games we have seen?
Used to be his trademark.
Used to be his trademark.
Amazing stuff. Quins defence splitting apart all over the place and Leicester really making hay.
33-40 with 8 to go!!
33-40 with 8 to go!!
Looked like Allen was holding on , Barnes says that the Quins player wasn't going for the ball
I said at the outset that I thought Leicester would pull clear in the last quarter but I didn't think it would be in this scenario! Unbelievable pressure from Leicester tells in the end. Could be 30/30 for them in their last six matches.
Yes, and the one before that to break their run of 5pt games was an away win at Sarries.
Just shows what a farce it is having so many international games during a season.
Just shows what a farce it is having so many international games during a season.
Finally we've had a decent betting game with both sides competing well
Yes, should show the RFL this game and make them take notes......
I've made very little from this game, bearing in mind my position at the start, but am not too bothered about it to be honest. If I had sat on my hands I would have had a heart attack.
I've made very little from this game, bearing in mind my position at the start, but am not too bothered about it to be honest. If I had sat on my hands I would have had a heart attack.
And there ends an extraordinary game of rugby. Historically you wouldn't believe that it would be Leicester lighting up the league with dazzling attacking play.
1 Harlequins 21 16 1 4 71
2 Leicester Tigers 21 14 1 6 70
3 Saracens 21 15 1 5 68
4 Exeter Chiefs 20 12 0 8 58
5 Northampton Saints 20 12 0 8 56
So Quins have to go away to Sale, who are now guaranteed 6th place and may or may not turn up. Leicester have a potential 5 pointer at home to a shoddy Bath team, which they need to win because of Sarries being at home to Exeter and potentially overtaking them for a home-semi if Leicester slip up.
1 Harlequins 21 16 1 4 71
2 Leicester Tigers 21 14 1 6 70
3 Saracens 21 15 1 5 68
4 Exeter Chiefs 20 12 0 8 58
5 Northampton Saints 20 12 0 8 56
So Quins have to go away to Sale, who are now guaranteed 6th place and may or may not turn up. Leicester have a potential 5 pointer at home to a shoddy Bath team, which they need to win because of Sarries being at home to Exeter and potentially overtaking them for a home-semi if Leicester slip up.
Yes, that's an extra element. Hopefully Exeter get a win tomorrow and put out scummy Northampton, although even with a win they may still need a little on the final round as Northampton have a potential 5 pointer against Worcester.
Could possibly be a case at Watford next week where Sarries want a 5pt win and Exeter just want a bonus point and care little about the win. Mmmm.......
Could possibly be a case at Watford next week where Sarries want a 5pt win and Exeter just want a bonus point and care little about the win. Mmmm.......
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