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pandora1963
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Imagine being that much of a sad **** you actually do this. Get a life .
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Report pandora1963 • October 6, 2026 11:26 AM BST
Snoopers alliance.
Report saddo • October 6, 2026 11:31 AM BST
Very interesting, alun. It seems we pay a very high price for our often lauded diverse and 'vibrant' areas.
Report CLYDEBANK29 • October 6, 2026 12:53 PM BST
Groundbreaking data showing that poorer areas have more benefit claimants.  I compared Brent (34% white) to Middlesboro (82% white).  Middlesboro chosen as perhaps it has the largest white population in run down conurbations.  Brent because it's in the top 10, I used to live there long ago and remembered the postcode.  Actually a higher percentage of claimants in Middlesboro than Brent.  You'd have to spend a long time deep diving the figures to draw any meaningful conclusions.  Obviously ethnic people claim more working age related benefits because they are poorer on average than white people.

If you are claiming housing benefit and universal credit why would the state pay to house them in more expensive affluent areas, and why would the residents of those areas accept it?
Report CLYDEBANK29 • October 6, 2026 1:18 PM BST
Blackppol is 94.7% white.  Blackpool has the lowest healthy life expectancy at birth for males in England, sitting at just 50.9 years.  23 years unhealthy so a bigger burden on the NHS, but a smaller burden on pensions.
Report CLYDEBANK29 • October 6, 2026 1:22 PM BST
The life expectancy at birth for Black African men in England and Wales is approximately 83.8 years.  That's 4 years higher than white men, and despite living in greater poverty.  Didn't expect that! 

Perhaps that's why Blackpool is worst in the country.
Report CLYDEBANK29 • October 6, 2026 1:29 PM BST
Indian males in UK is 82 years.  3 years more receiving a pension.  19 years on average compared to 16.  19% more
Report CLYDEBANK29 • October 6, 2026 1:31 PM BST
correction 15 years compared to 12.  So 25% more in pension payments
Report saddo • October 6, 2026 1:37 PM BST
You'd have to allow for addictions. Blackpool wil have plenty
of smackheads, crackheads and alcoholics.
Report CLYDEBANK29 • October 6, 2026 1:42 PM BST
Indeed.  Lifestyle choices a big factor
Report CLYDEBANK29 • October 6, 2026 1:48 PM BST
Life expectancy gets more bizarre the more I look at it.  White Americans live 4.4 years longer than black Americans, yet white Britons have a significantly lower life expectancy than black Britons.
Report alun2005 • October 6, 2026 1:52 PM BST
Lifestyle choices a big factor

Indeed, there are many choosing to live a life in virtual separation from Traditional Britain, not even bothering to learn the language, not bothering to seek employment or contribute anything to the country. Simply choosing to live on the benefits insanely provided to them and use the NHS when they inevitably conceive Anchor Babies.
Report CLYDEBANK29 • October 6, 2026 1:54 PM BST
Also bizarrely "healthy life expectancy" is much higher in the USA, but life expectancy is much lower.  And the cost of US healthcare is 3 times higher, so that means when you do get ill the treatment is even worse value than it seems.

Alternatively, definitions of healthy, and adjustments for immigration and emigration, are skewing the statistics
Report saddo • October 6, 2026 1:58 PM BST
Huge amount of fatties in the US, that will add to healthcare costs.
We are going the same way, unfortunately.
Report Cider • October 6, 2026 2:01 PM BST
Who wants to live a bit longer just so someone can feed you, wipe your arse and tell you what day it is anyway. Certainly not me.
Report Cider • October 6, 2026 2:03 PM BST
Quality of life is palpably far more critical than the length of it.
Report saddo • October 6, 2026 2:06 PM BST
Indeed, pass me that crack pipe Laugh
Report Cider • October 6, 2026 2:12 PM BST
Lots of watchable bits, but around 7.20 is peak. Peak blood pressure that is Grin
Report MrStrawMan • October 6, 2026 4:39 PM BST
Tottenham the number 1 has some crazy numbers , £4730 benefits per resident , over half the households are on UC , 38% of pip is for psychiatric conditions .
Report Cider • October 6, 2026 4:43 PM BST
Personally I'd say it's virtually impossible to compare different countries in that way. It's factual that the UK has recently imported vast numbers of people with different genetics. That's bound to have a tangible impact on the statistics. And the baseline is not going to be the same for the US and the UK. Medicalisation equals benefits, ssp etc in the UK, and since nobody has to pay any money at all to get medicalised, the incentives are there with no consequences for fabricated issues. For supposed patients and medics. In the states it's most likely to be a much more varied picture where benefits are not a career option but healthcare is much more of an industry eg advertising and prescription medication.
Report Cider • October 6, 2026 5:00 PM BST
random stat, 10% of nurses working in Australia are from the UK.
Report CLYDEBANK29 • October 6, 2026 5:24 PM BST
https://makevotesmatter.org.uk/news/2025/5/2/as-an-australian-heres-what-surprised-me-about-the-uk-political-system/

Interesting take there.  Agree with the gist of it.
Report Cider • October 6, 2026 5:37 PM BST
When was the last time that the UK didn't have a centrist or left wing government ?
Report Cider • October 6, 2026 5:40 PM BST
Australia largely has a functioning state, with functioning borders. And doesn't have as a free for all healthcare system.

It's not all good obviously as they went nuts over covid. But they do have state capacity and competence.
Report CLYDEBANK29 • October 6, 2026 6:39 PM BST
Lets try again ...

Australia generally leans toward the centre, with a pragmatic electorate that often values strong public services and government intervention, aligning it slightly more with centre-left economic and social norms

Compulsory voting and preferential alternative voting in Australia keep mainstream parties anchored near the political centre
Report alun2005 • October 6, 2026 6:40 PM BST
The Moderator(s) seemingly don't want any forumites to see the cost of State Benefits paid across UK postcodes.

My opening post was deleted swiftly , plus my subsequent advice as to where the Taxpayers Alliance report and database can be found.

Public Spending is something that affects every one of us and is just about the hottest of political potatoes at present. But clearly the revelations in the Taxpayers Alliance report have embarrassed someone. 

A quite incredible state of affairs. Pray for them.
Report Cider • October 6, 2026 6:59 PM BST
I don't get the point at all, the UK has had centre left political leadership since the 1990s. I'll give you maybe 40 days of Truss as an exception, but she was spat out before she could do anything. It's the operational government that has been, and is failing.
Report Escapee • October 6, 2026 7:13 PM BST

I don't get the point at all, the UK has had centre left political leadership since the 1990s.


Selling off water, gas, electric, trains, PFI etc. is not centre left.
Decades of below inflation wage rises is not centre left.
Letting immigration run wild, up to 1 million each year, is not centre left.
The Tories are not centre left.
Go to war Blair was not centre left.
etc etc.


Using your logic, it must be you who is centre left.Laugh

Report Cider • October 6, 2026 7:21 PM BST
Privatisation happened under Thatcher, obviously. I'm referencing from the late 1990's, ie noo labour on.
Importing foreigners who aren't working is very much left wing.
Yes, the Tories since the coalition are centre left. What examples are you citing of them following through on a policy that wasn't. Not Brexit of course as they campaigned to stay in the EU.
Supporting war is not straight forward to pinpoint in political terms. Barnham is still supporting funding the Ukraine in the proxy war, where are you placing him on the political spectrum?
Report Ronaldmcdonald • October 6, 2026 10:33 PM BST
The last conservative government was far left for policy.
Report timbuctooth • October 6, 2026 11:49 PM BST
post-Maggie, the two main parties, (aka the uniparty), have offered communism now, or socialism now as a stepping stone to globalist communism soon. Much the same throughout most of the suicidally empathetic West
Report saddo • October 7, 2026 10:23 AM BST
Birmingham.  The benefits bill per resident stands at £3,521, reflecting an increase of over 25% in just two years Laugh
They're lucky that Labour brought a magic money tree.
Report CLYDEBANK29 • October 8, 2026 12:11 PM BST
Middlesboro has the highest crime rate in the country Sad
Report Cider • October 8, 2026 12:21 PM BST
why do you think that is Laugh
Report CLYDEBANK29 • October 8, 2026 12:24 PM BST
I could speculate but the answer would be deleted by the AI bot
Report CLYDEBANK29 • October 8, 2026 12:28 PM BST
Fairly obvious why the crime rate is high, but speculative why it's higher than anywhere else.
Report Cider • October 8, 2026 12:29 PM BST
Two tier justice should be ok for the filters, for now.
Report CLYDEBANK29 • October 8, 2026 12:34 PM BST
It's not in the top 30 for benefits spending.  Housing will be cheap though.  Doubt many people live there by choice
Report CLYDEBANK29 • October 8, 2026 12:42 PM BST
If you sent some of those migrants to boro's council estates, they'd be on the first dinghy back to Calais
Report Cider • October 8, 2026 12:44 PM BST
As if the french would be stupid enough to round up illegal immigrants from the channel and put them up with lots of goodies.
Report SirNorbertClarke • October 8, 2026 12:48 PM BST
Blame the poor while ignoring the businesses not paying taxes.

Mugs.
Report Cider • October 8, 2026 12:49 PM BST
crime and welfare are obviously different variables, but to be a convicted criminal means that the cps have to be involved.
Report CLYDEBANK29 • October 8, 2026 12:51 PM BST
raiding the middles classes in inheritance taxes Nobby, whilst letting the very wealthy use trusts and holding companies, who in some cases pay no tax at all.
Report Cider • October 8, 2026 12:51 PM BST
the bias is codified within the police, so that's at least two 'filters'.
Report Escapee • October 8, 2026 8:44 PM BST
ASDA did a 'buyout deal' a couple of years ago, structured so that it will not pay UK corporation tax for 25 years.

Boots hasn't paid UK corporation tax for decades.

None of our politicians ever even mention wanting these loopholes closed.Sad
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