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----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 Sep 26 18:20
Carl Sagan popping around would have been very high on my wish list as a kid.

With or without wine, brown ale, or volvic.
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Foinavon
When: 28 Sep 26 19:02
You can't expect miracles Donny.
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----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 28 Sep 26 19:06
Happy
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Busyfool
When: 28 Sep 26 19:09
although outward displays of religious faith have largely disappeared the notion of christian values is worth contemplating and asking what they meant in practice.its a fact that christian nations made the modern world and western liberal christianity is the apex of it

faith hope and charity and respect for human life were keystone ideas in progressive christian thinking. an example is slavery, the abolition of which was driven by christian proselytising

a driver of progress was the printing of the bible in the vernacular that led to an massive increase in literacy and then sprung the enlightenment and onto scientific discovery, freedom of ideas and the industrial revolution

this was notably successful in northern europe, and to this day the most successful, liberal affluent and respected countries worldwide are those, particularly the nordic states, who adopted the pragmatic version of the christian faith
 
they pay homage to these roots that shaped them by including a dirty great cross in all their flags. and you thought it was for decoration

we now have the world at our door because other faiths that dominate elsewhere and dont evolve and cant produce any sort of liberal society. some other faiths are prescriptive and fatalistic and prevent progress

obv. this is condensed and simplistic but broadly accurate

it is also worth questioning the wisdom of importing very large numbers of people who do not share christian values and emanate from lands where christians are being persecuted out of existence. eg, the christian population of the middle east and north africa has shrunk from about 20% to less than 3 and those left suffer daily torment. jews have been eradicated entirely
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Ronaldmcdonald
When: 28 Sep 26 20:30
Colours are on a spectrum Escapee. It's exceedingly complicated.
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