Old Age Pension

They're happy to spend 40k a year on each illegal though, priorites.

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Unreal isnt it , and R soles complaining about the triple Lock

Pension is pathetic TBH , What's it Pay in Eire any of the lads let us know , Must be more than here

300 yoyos a week TON, not much more really.

A few quid more Pa ,

We just throw money at problems but how much does it cost for an OAP to live? Most will have the mortgage paid off or getting rent allowance and a bus pass. For a £50 a week spend at Tescos you can live like a king these days.

Weekly essential expenses for a typical OAP
Gas, Leccy, Water Rates, Broadband, Mobile phone £70
Council Tax: £30
Food Shopping: £50
Scoop 6 £2

Total £152

Scoop 6?
Is that a ice cream?

You have allow at least a couple of quid for the scoop 6 or there would be a wrinkly uprising.

The UK State Pension is less than most comparable countries both in absolute terms and as a percentage o GDP.

However, in most of Europe, workplace pensions are a rarity and we have the NHS.

You're better off getting slightly under the amount per week, about 230 quid, from private and government pensions in total, that qualifies you for pension credit.
You could be in this position if you hadn't paid enough stamps over the years.
The govt make up the shortfall even if it's only a few pound per week, but it then automatically qualifies you for full housing benefit and no Council tax to pay.
I know a friend, no seriously it's not me, like telling the doctor " for a friend's problem"...who gets all his rent paid, plus service charges.
You also get free dental treatment plus other benefits.

Wont be the case soon but Most pensioners will have been paying Taxes for 45 Years  on everything they buy never mind Earn

Plus the NI Contributions ,34 quid a day is an Insult

I take it you dont Drink or Smoke Ron ?

When you work out what the Average brit will have  contributed in taxes ETC over the years , Billions of which is sent Abroad

Say they live to 80 They would be Getting at the current rate Less than 200 Bags

What happens when the Universal Wage comes in , That would surely be more that 34 quid a day

I see one of our Top Tax payers , 330 Million last year has fxxxxd off to Greece

And there will be a Universal Wage .the Jobs AI will take will run into millions , Can't be long till train drivers are replaced , The Tube should already be Automated cant see why it has not been

Nanny, was you referring to my post about pension credit when you said , won't be the case soon?
I haven't read anything about the government trying to change it
Unlikely that a Labour govt will do so , imo

No Reg , I was referring to dosser types types who pay FA in,  that will increase , and Certain communities that Don't work and will not work ..

Pre occupied with book study and other pastimes

Btw, where I live, there are shops and factories constantly advertising jobs, but can't get people to work there...yet, loads of youngsters either not working or building up huge debts at college getting a worthless degree
Soon there will be about 1 in 3 of the population in work, paying taxes, to try and support the other 2 thirds on benefits

Nanny, I  wrote my post before I saw yours
Looks like we were on the same lines

Yes the Oligy you pay for the rest of your life that gets you very Little, the new kid on the Block is Business Studies Plenty appear to be on that Route , AI will be running most Businesses in 10-15 years

It's an interesting question. No country has managed to implement a nationwide Universal Basic Income system. With UBI there is a high risk of hyperinflation if it's funded by money printing, or triggering the Laffer curve effect if funded by taxing high earners. To fund £50+ a day UBI, the marginal tax rate for middle and high earners would have to go over 70% which risks triggering the Laffer curve effect where high tax rates diminish economic output and reduce overall tax receipts.

Call centers will take a massive hit , they must be already ,how many jobs will go in that sector , Car Manufacturing another

There will be some sort of reset Ron , has to be

A lot of people say a reset is imminent.

What happens when the Universal Wage comes in , That would surely be more that 34 quid a day


It will but it will replace all other bnefits.

Free money sounds great. Maybe we should go full communist.

I have my doubts on reform being good for state benefit pension for people who need it, I think everything will be private and which will mean less money in you’re working life, which will mean less money spent and economy f more.
No expert btw who is ?

I think they will dismantle the English NHS too. Which is quite an iconic institution and probably one thing that makes England a decent country.
I might be wrong but be careful

probably one thing that makes England a decent country

just lol

probably one thing that makes England a decent country to cadge off of

I imagine tax payer funded pension schemes are a problem across the developed world. 'We' can now keep people alive way too long, decades past state pension age, and spend £millions doing it. They'll also need wrap around care in many cases, as their own families are not interested. For the families that are interested, it qualifies them for benefits and not having to work anyway! Meanwhile, very few people want to do manual jobs, or to work into their 60s. At the same time, affluent people no longer want to have children.

In other words, they are ponzi schemes where the bottom up funding is running out.

As has been covered upthread, there's no incentive to contribute as people who will have contributed absolutely nothing will still get full state pension, and enhanced pension credit in some circumstance.

The only solution is to make it solely contributions based, but that would take decades to filter through and obviously too politically toxic for anyone to try.

You really don't like brown people do you.

Nobbys back !

Were you one of the 600+ arrested at the annual crimewave ? Just got bail ?

You must be sad if you missed me.

I really don't like anyone that's cadging off of our country.

Surely the answer is heading towards cutting benefits and at the same time doing away with the triple lock and making it a single lock?
Growth ain't looking like coming.

There's no answer that I can see, due to the factors I've laid out. There are not many people nowadays that don't feel like they are entitled to something for nothing.

A starting point is giving nothing to foreigners. But that won't come from the uni party, obviously. As they created what we now enjoy. The whole world thinking that we a ripe for cadging (they're not wrong!)

If you're jealous of someone getting £49 a week i suggest you get yourself a better paid job, and stop you're constant whining..

The Benefits: If you are destitute, the Home Office provides free accommodation, free healthcare via the NHS, and an Aspen prepaid card loaded with £49.18 per week (about €230 a month) for food and clothing. If you are housed in a hotel where meals are provided, this drops to just £8.86 a week.


Jealous of someone getting less than a tenner a week

So the arrivals are getting 8 Quid a week , Righty Ho

Did someone on facebook tell you different 

Illegal working isn't illegal for illegal immigrants, believe it or not. Little wonder they appear to be above the law, as they actually are.

Investigations into unregulated sectors (such as hand car washes, agriculture, construction, and informal gig economy "microwork") frequently uncover workers earning between £3 and £5 an hour, or sometimes less.



Let me know if you need a reference.

bear of little brain

If you're jealous of someone getting £49 a week i suggest you get yourself a better paid job, and stop you're constant whining..
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What a ridiculous thing to come out with. Nobody's jealous, try furious.

who is paying for this full board and pocket money ?  That would be the taxpayers, you know like the ones you just told to "get a better paid job and stop whining".
Not much point doing that if your taxes are going to fund illegals and the feckless

Awwww, cry some more

Has someone nicked your porridge again bear of little brain

Bear cub, your 21.25 post...investigations frequently uncover workers earning 3 to 5 pounds an hour
Well, A...how frequently, one in a thousand?...have you any figures?
And B...if your board and lodging is free, that's still 150-200 quid a week pocket money anyway...not too shabby, if you're fleeing poverty and persecution

People who have paid income tax and national insurance for 30 years and lose their job get.........£95 a week. Seems fair, when compared to the gravy boat grifters.

You must all be in the poor house being jealous of what immigrants are getting

Bear cub, it's not jealousy, as you well know, it's anger at what asylum seekers, mostly not genuine, are given...which you can't defend so you describe it as jealousy

Can't blame the grifters, only those facilitating, profiting, and pretending that there's nothing to see.

Absolutely right Reg, no jealousy whatsoever and of course little cub knows this but has no other argument to use being a bear of little brain

How long have you been yearning after an illegal job delivering lazy people on superior benefits their big macs in the pouring rain.

So Cider, people on less benefits delivering burgers to people on more benefits?
It's the food chain, I suppose

Apologies, couldn't resist, Cider
Even food delivery jobs may be replaced by Drone Delivery soon?

You all sound a bit jealous to me, a bunch of incels seeing your chances of pulling getting even slimmer

Yes, those asylum seekers must seem so attractive to the ladies

ha, yes it is really. those people delivering the big macs in the rain are doing so as the virtue signallers here offer them a much better life than they have in their original third world country, or anything available in all of the countries they traverse through to get here.

it is, of course, a means to an end and the free to them nhs is something they could only dream of. with a real prospect of eventually getting their extended family over, and gaining access to the superior benefits themselves. it's understandable, and pretty much nothing to lose for trying.

I agree cider, except for the bit about them not having the opportunities in the countries they traverse through...those countries could offer them the equivalent opportunities but are happy to wave them through...if they thought they would be getting a whole load of young working age men and women, who would add to their economy for years to come, and not be a drain on resources ...

This is the final destination. Very slim chance of being forcibly deported, even if a convicted criminal, let alone rejected asylum claimer.