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During the trial, the court was shown bodycam footage of a fatally wounded Mr Nowak telling police he had been stabbed and that he couldn't breathe.

Police handcuffed Mr Nowak, acting on Digwa’s claim that he was the victim of a racial attack. 

Digwa was lying has been convicted of Murder

The police handcuffed an Innocent dying man
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Report DixieDean60 June 3, 2026 8:47 PM BST
Does anybody think PoP would have been so keen to defend the cops here if the ethnicities had been reversed ?
A rhetorical question, obviously.

As for the "he'd been to the pub" deflection, the lad was under the legal limit for driving and had a mouthful of blood so i doubt he would have smelt like a brewery.

Quite why the cops felt it necessary to cuff him in his obviously distressed condition is beyond me, he was hardly a flight risk was he.
Report Cider June 3, 2026 9:11 PM BST
He was a racist obviously.

Would they have done that without the asian family audience.

Rhetorical obviously.
Report Cider June 3, 2026 9:20 PM BST
Over the past few years, a new set of principles have entered British policing. We no longer hear phrases like objectivity, reasonable suspicion and due process. Officers are instead told to be allies to ethnic minorities, to be ‘upstanders’ rather than bystanders, to police as active anti-racists.

Just look at the training for police in Southampton, the city where Henry died. ‘The murder of George Floyd by serving police officers in the USA in 2020 was a pivotal moment for policing in the UK,’ Hampshire Constabulary’s Race Action Plan says. ‘Whilst this tragic event happened in another country, policing across the UK has over many years had a strained relationship with some communities.’ The action plan goes on to say British policing ‘still contains racism, discrimination and bias’.

In 2020, Hampshire police spent nearly £1 million on compulsory race training. The aim of this programme is to ‘educate the workforce on organisational culture, biases, banter, microaggressions, privilege and the importance of being an ally’. The results of such training are now clear. The officers acted as allies to Vickrum Digwa, even as his victim lay handcuffed and dying in the street.

A slide show for the programme, presented by the chief inspector, states that adherence to these new principles is ‘mandatory’ and ‘linked to pay progression’. The county Police and Crime Commissioner also told officers that failure to engage would affect performance reviews and chances of promotion.
Report Cider June 3, 2026 9:23 PM BST
No two tier policing though Plain
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 3, 2026 9:33 PM BST
so which one of you guys shared the innocent copper's address with the wanted dead or alive poster?
Report Stringvest June 3, 2026 9:57 PM BST
Who killed Liddle
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 3, 2026 10:22 PM BST
So dixie has been wrong before, must be wrong now.

Is that how it works,...
Report Stringvest June 3, 2026 10:23 PM BST
im never wrong .. your a wrong un Laugh
Report DixieDean60 June 3, 2026 10:43 PM BST
That's not what i said yhtl, but of course you know that.

We can all get things wrong, just admit them with good grace.

Like the BBC today, having to apologise after awfully misquoting your bogeyman (Nige Nige Nige) three times in one interview last night.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 3, 2026 10:45 PM BST
Why bring it up then

Paucity of your own argument

And you love a strawman rather than the actual point
Report DixieDean60 June 3, 2026 10:56 PM BST
I think you need to look up what a "strawman" actually is.


But, as last night, the cliche bingo card is now filling up nicely.
Report alun2005 June 3, 2026 10:59 PM BST
I don't suppose Starmer will be kneeling for these victims either

.
https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2026-06-03/gang-who-abused-teenage-girl-over-four-year-period-jailed-for-188-years
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 3, 2026 11:14 PM BST
I think you need to look up strawman.

But as long as you keep putting them up, I'll keep calling them out
Report GLASGOWCALLING June 3, 2026 11:29 PM BST
21 years is not enough... I'd recommend 31..

5 years for his mother too...

A total ban on these religious knives..

  You have my vote Emitdeb. Happy   ... (Dont forget the Brother though)
Report saddo June 3, 2026 11:31 PM BST
Stand by for some excuses from the usual suspects, alun.
Report the old nanny ;-) June 4, 2026 12:13 AM BST
Hi Lads

I might have missed it ,has there been a Minutes silence in the House of Commons  for Henry ?
Report DixieDean60 June 4, 2026 12:24 AM BST
yhtl - "i'll keep calling them out". 

Pretentious, much ?
Report the old nanny ;-) June 4, 2026 12:32 AM BST
The House of Commons and Lords chambers, as well as virtual committee hearings, fell silent at 11am on Tuesday.

well i found that but its not for Henry

It was for George Floyd , Maybe they will be having one for Henry ?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 4, 2026 10:32 AM BST
Pretentious, lol, sums you up perfick.
Report Stringvest June 4, 2026 10:39 AM BST
Any seeks running around with daggers in your 100% white village
Report saddo June 4, 2026 10:42 AM BST
This one was banned from his local Sikh temple for nicking a grands worth of blades.
Was arrested but not charged, so they banned him.
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 4, 2026 11:07 AM BST
Yeah, agree with Millridge.


We know what a proper knife is, and anyone caught with one should be treated by the law as if they intend to use it, and put away for a good spell.

But those kirpans are little more than a fancy dress item in reality. We could end up banging up scouts with swiss army knives and decorators with box cutters before too long.
Report Shrewd_dude June 4, 2026 11:17 AM BST
But those kirpans are little more than a fancy dress item in reality. We could end up banging up scouts with swiss army knives and decorators with box cutters before too long.

More nonsense. Sikhs like the murderer are legally allowed to carry knives below 9 inches. His was an 8 inch. It's clown world stuff from you again to suggest this is "little more than a fancy dress item".

These knives should clearly be banned but more attempts to sweep sweep from you.
Report saddo June 4, 2026 11:21 AM BST
It was the large knife being on open display which prompted Henry to
film the murderer in the first place. Eight inch blade plus large handle.
Porcy minimising things again.
Report saddo June 4, 2026 11:22 AM BST
PorcupineorPineapple 04 Jun 26 11:07 

We know what a proper knife is, and anyone caught with one should be treated by the law as if they intend to use it, and put away for a good spell.

.......................................
Blush
Report Shrewd_dude June 4, 2026 11:28 AM BST
No one tell Porky that Digwa won't be allowed to carry his Kirpans with him in the jail.

It wouldn't be long before he would be setting up a crowd funder for a human rights lawyer. "But, but but, other inamtes have shanks why shouldn't he have his Kirpan you waycist!"
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 4, 2026 11:28 AM BST

Jun 4, 2026 -- 11:17AM, Shrewd_dude wrote:


But those kirpans are little more than a fancy dress item in reality. We could end up banging up scouts with swiss army knives and decorators with box cutters before too long.More nonsense. Sikhs like the murderer are legally allowed to carry knives below 9 inches. His was an 8 inch. It's clown world stuff from you again to suggest this is "little more than a fancy dress item".These knives should clearly be banned but more attempts to sweep sweep from you.


From what I read, he had a little kirpan, and then he also had the big knife that killed him.



So, my point - which you lads continue to ignore - is that banning kirpans wouldn't have done anything here. The lad was a knife-nut and was carrying one round openly which seems to be what started it all off. Banning kirpans wouldn't have saved Henry. And if kirpans are such a danger, can someone please provide some data on how many of them are used in crimes. Cos I've been here half a century or so and haven't heard of a single one. You may as well say you're banning purple knives for all the good it would do.

Report MillridgeTanic June 4, 2026 11:38 AM BST
Unfortunately from the photo I saw, the knife used was a ceremonial one with an 8 inch blade. They of course, should be banned.
Report saddo June 4, 2026 11:42 AM BST
Porcy, there is no size limit on kirpans, the 'big knife' you refer to would
have been well over a foot long in total and was legal. He was a blade junkie,
known to police, and they let him walk round with that on display.
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 4, 2026 11:45 AM BST
I read different Millridge. If that's the case, I'd roll it back then. Though one case in fifty years is still not a solid basis for a law change imo.



Biggest change/lesson from this for me is that if someone says they have been stabbed - no matter if it's the nicest kid or a really nasty piece of work - then the plod need to actually check because it could be life-threatening. You can't just say there's no visible injury, so probably not and carry on regardless.
Report saddo June 4, 2026 11:49 AM BST
There is a reason they didn't check, they are conditioned to believe one type of person over another.
Also conditioned to regard 'racism' as the most serious offence on the planet, it isn't.
Report DancingBraveTheBest June 4, 2026 11:50 AM BST
A blanket ban on a knife carrying in public.....i am afraid if you want to carry one for religious reasons may i suggest you live in a country that allows this.
Report Shrewd_dude June 4, 2026 11:54 AM BST
So, my point - which you lads continue to ignore - is that banning kirpans wouldn't have done anything here. The lad was a knife-nut and was carrying one round openly which seems to be what started it all off. Banning kirpans wouldn't have saved Henry. And if kirpans are such a danger, can someone please provide some data on how many of them are used in crimes. Cos I've been here half a century or so and haven't heard of a single one. You may as well say you're banning purple knives for all the good it would do.

Because it's nonsense to say that making it illegal for him to have carried an 8 inch knife strapped across his jacket wouldn't have done anything here.

If it was illegal to have carried the 8 inch knife on him then there is a very good chance that he would not have had this on his person at 11pm at night when helping his brother deliver food (due to thinking do I want to get a prison sentence) or if he was someone that wasn't bothered about it and did carry such and knife may have already been stopped and convicted for possession of it.
Report Shrewd_dude June 4, 2026 11:56 AM BST
You may as well say you're banning purple knives for all the good it would do.

Or you might as well say people should be allowed to carry 8 inch purple knives on them in public because Porky has never heard someone be stabbed with a purple knife in 50 years of being here.
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 4, 2026 12:05 PM BST

Jun 4, 2026 -- 11:50AM, DancingBraveTheBest wrote:


A blanket ban on a knife carrying in public.....i am afraid if you want to carry one for religious reasons may i suggest you live in a country that allows this.


Yeah, I sort of get this.


I think people should be able to pray to whatever sky guy they prefer and it's not the government's place to intervene, but we also have other laws to be respected. My issue with this is that it's a knee-jerk response to something that isn't really an issue. A law change because you need to be seen to be doing something, rather than doing it because it's the right thing.

But if we were to say "if you want to take a kirpan outdoors then it must be no bigger than one inch", or just "no kirpans in public" then I can't say I'd be overly arsed to be honest. It's just obviously not really the point of this whole sorry incident and if the government did that and expected people to say "well done, that's fixed it" then they'd be hopeless imo.

Report Cider June 4, 2026 12:30 PM BST
The judge's comments might be quite helpful here.

You were sober but were carrying a large Sikh dagger in a sheath attached to a
belt over the outside of your clothing. It is a strict requirement of the Sikh faith
to have a knife, called a kirpan, at all times. Generally, this will be a small
knife, hidden from view, often on a length of cord and worn around the neck.

You had that but, in addition, the large dagger in a sheath. You are a member
of an order of Sikhs called the Nihang who have a tradition of having a second
knife, or kirpan and that is often fully visible, believing that the guru will look
favourably on that. You observed that tradition in your everyday life, at work
and in public. However, it was not a strict requirement; that is borne out by
the fact that neither your brother nor father who arrived on the scene after you
had stabbed Henry were so dressed. According to Professor Gurnam Singh,
Professor of Sociology and an expert in the field: “Over the last 30 years, there
has been a trend towards younger people wearing a kirpan with pride, in a
desire to express their cultural identity. They see it as an act of resistance to
being denied the ability otherwise to display their identity.”

The privilege extended to practising Sikhs of being allowed to be in public with
a bladed article and, particularly in respect of the large dagger, a highly
dangerous weapon, easily accessible to the wearer, brings with it huge responsibility.
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 4, 2026 12:30 PM BST
No, I get that it was important in this incident. However, given the killer's fascination with knives, I'm not remotely convinced he was carrying it "for religious reasons".


And again, I think that law changes should be based on good empirical data. One case in fifty years, and half a million sikhs in the UK who aren't going around stabbing people, suggests to me that banning kirpans isn't really well-thought out or would have much benefit in the future. That said, the idea that a kirpan could be a foot long is ridiculous and there should be some accomodation in public at least. It's supposed to be a symbolic knife, so a small, blunt one should be just as good as a foot-long zombie knife surely.


Shrewdie, what a wet wipe! Listen, if the family are reading this betting forum and disagree with my points then they can just DM me.
Report Cider June 4, 2026 12:32 PM BST
lol, nice timing :)
Report Cider June 4, 2026 12:35 PM BST
You are a member of an order of Sikhs called the Nihang who have a tradition of having a second
knife, or kirpan and that is often fully visible, believing that the guru will look
favourably on that. You observed that tradition in your everyday life, at work
and in public.


Porcupine or Pineapple
I'm not remotely convinced he was carrying it "for religious reasons".

There you go, I suggest.
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 4, 2026 12:35 PM BST
Yeah, fair enough. Didn't know about this subset.
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 4, 2026 12:48 PM BST
Google says there's only 250-400 of this sect in the UK.

But yeah, the need and ability to carry a big show-off knife seems daft and at odds with general knife laws. I understand the desire for cultural heritage but  there should be limits.
Report Cider June 4, 2026 12:59 PM BST
There are so many different aspects to this awful case. Personally, I feel like the reporting has been awful as well. Because it's so uncomfortable for the legacy media, it seems. I have discovered multiple different elements, but not from the same source. Only due to my curious nature. Reddit was my lead on that, bizarrely enough. But originally sourced from the published sentencing remarks. I was actually under the impression that sentencing remarks on high profile cases were now broadcast live.

Anyway, I'll link the formal sentencing remarks below, in case anyone is interested.

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Digwa-Final-Sentencing-Remarks.pdf
Report the old nanny ;-) June 4, 2026 1:09 PM BST
Sadly the Sikh Community are the least of our worries , this Bloke was a wrong un Sikhs are peaceful folks 

Has the minutes Silence in the HOC been sorted out yet ? Anyone know if the England players will taking the Knee (For Henry) during the WC ?

TYIA
Report GLASGOWCALLING June 4, 2026 1:10 PM BST
Trial by social media has meant a young policewoman falsely accused of being involved is forced to move house.
Report the old nanny ;-) June 4, 2026 1:16 PM BST
She is not even a Police officer any more
Report Shrewd_dude June 4, 2026 1:33 PM BST
And Hampshire police never came out and said she was nothing to do with it by name. Just said one person had had to go in to protection and not to speculate.
Report Cider June 4, 2026 1:58 PM BST
no two tier justice though, it's not like the cops involved in Henry's death were even suspended
Report saddo June 4, 2026 2:08 PM BST
Shrewd_dude 04 Jun 26 13:33 
And Hampshire police never came out and said she was nothing to do with it by name. Just said one person had had to go in to protection and not to speculate.


....................................

She's pleaded with them to release a statement confirming she's nowt to do with it, they refused. Crazy
Report the old nanny ;-) June 4, 2026 7:56 PM BST
Henry Nowak deserves legacy that goes beyond tragedy, says PM

He met the parents today
Report saddo June 4, 2026 8:01 PM BST
The video of the killer threatening a woman with
a sword in a road rage job  is getting seen more widely.
They ought to appeal his sentence, he would have got more
if that had been seen by the court.
Report the old nanny ;-) June 6, 2026 1:51 PM BST
Chap beaten to Death in Dublin

Alex Coughlan

MSM doing their best not to report on this

perhaps PA and the Lads might know More
Report saddo June 6, 2026 2:01 PM BST
Plenty of noise (and protests) about the Congolese shoplifter getting killed though.
No double standards, of course.
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 6, 2026 7:02 PM BST
Next to nothing about the other poor student stabbed to death in Cambridge either.



Wonder why
Report Cider June 6, 2026 7:22 PM BST
The police haven't arrested the dying ('racist') victim?
Report the old nanny ;-) June 6, 2026 10:42 PM BST
Given Population Percentage might be white Porci ?
Report Jumper45 June 7, 2026 6:40 AM BST
The Old Nanny

I replied re Alex Coughlan but my reply was removed inexplicably.
Report saddo June 7, 2026 11:05 AM BST
Just three days after University of Southampton student Henry Nowak was fatally stabbed on December 3, 2025, Hampshire Police drafted a statement portraying him as the aggressor in an assault by an unknown man, a Sunday Times investigation revealed. The force adjusted it after family outrage and later shelved another during trial amid disinformation fears.
Report Jumper45 June 7, 2026 11:38 AM BST
saddo, if that doesn't demonstrate that the police had formed a preconceived view of the case, even after Nowak's death, it's hard to imagine what would.
Report saddo June 7, 2026 11:50 AM BST
The government and the lefties have been using the family to shut people up after the trial.
The family have been leant on, the sister and stepfather don't want to keep quiet.
Report Cider June 7, 2026 11:58 AM BST
I read that all the phones of Henry's family were confiscated and analysed in the hope that they would find some 'racism'.
Report saddo June 7, 2026 12:06 PM BST
The Guardian is produced, and read by, utter filth.
Report Jumper45 June 7, 2026 12:28 PM BST
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/07/ireland-yves-sakila-death-africans-fear

This is all one sided and weaponises things, which the same paper are condemning Reform, Restore and US over the Nowak death.

The Guardian is just a media tool of the Left, and shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone with an ounce of common sense.
Report Cider June 7, 2026 12:44 PM BST
The police force at the centre of the Henry Nowak scandal tried to intervene during his murderer’s trial in a highly unusual move, The Sunday Times can reveal.

The Hampshire force sought to release a public statement to address what it described as “disinformation” circulating online while court proceedings were at a critical point against Vickrum Digwa.

However, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) advised the force that such a step could risk jeopardising the “integrity” of the case.

The revelation about the planned intervention is likely to put further pressure on the beleaguered force and its chief constable, Alexis Boon, because the conduct of its own officers was under scrutiny during the trial.

The Sunday Times can also reveal that the force wanted to portray Nowak as the aggressor in an official statement three days after his death, but changed their wording following outrage from his grieving family.

Nowak died in the early hours of December 4 after being stabbed multiple times by Digwa, who is Sikh and had falsely claimed to police that he had been racially abused.

An initial police statement later that morning said: “It was reported two men had been assaulted by an unknown man.”

The Nowak family, raw with grief, became concerned that a false narrative was being pushed about their son. It is understood that police told the family the next update they planned to publish, which would include the Nowaks’ tribute, would again infer that he was the initial aggressor.

Officers dropped that section of the statement which only referred to an “altercation” when published. By that point, police had ample evidence that Digwa was a liar.

Digwa stabbed Nowak, a first-year finance and accountancy student, to death following a night out in Southampton three weeks before Christmas.

Instead of treating Nowak as the victim, officers attending the scene handcuffed the undergraduate following false claims by Digwa that he had been “racially” attacked.

When Nowak told officers “I can’t breathe” and pointed out that he had been stabbed, one police constable replied: “I don’t think you have, mate.”

As Nowak lay dying, Digwa, now 23, did not tell the 999 call handler or the officers who attended the scene that he had been stabbed. It was only after Nowak lost consciousness that police realised he was gravely injured, gave him first aid and finally arrested Digwa. They did not handcuff him.

Two days later, detectives secretly recorded Digwa speaking in Punjabi to his brother, Gurpreet, who had arrived on the scene shortly after the attack

The brothers were in the back of a police van being taken to court so that officers could request more time to question them. Digwa admitted to his brother that he had stabbed Nowak, and made no mention of his earlier allegation of racial abuse. Instead, he agreed with Gurpreet that he would claim he had acted in self-defence.

Digwa, a practising Sikh who carried two ceremonial daggers, was jailed for a minimum term of 21 years last week after a jury at Southampton crown court found him guilty of murder.

The death has led to intense scrutiny of the police’s diversity and inclusion policies, with forces being accused of “two-tier policing”, whereby ethnic minorities are said to be treated more favourably than white people.

Writing in The Sunday Times this weekend, Kemi Badenoch, the leader of the Conservatives, accuses policing’s senior leaders of “allowing these ill-advised frameworks” to take hold.

“It is the police chiefs, operationally independent from government, who must take responsibility for letting that happen,” she writes.

“I believe the issue is the training [officers] are given. Well-meaning, but totally wrong-headed, lacking in common sense and, possibly illegal… The problem is not institutional racism towards blacks or whites but institutional incompetence.”

Badenoch has asked Sir Keir Starmer for a rapid independent review of Nowak’s death. It is understood his family support her request.

She argued that leaders of public institutions had become scared of making mistakes around race, so have outsourced moral judgment to “activist consultants and ‘community leaders’ who often do not represent the public”.

Badenoch said: “The Black Lives Matter movement… made institutions more frightened, more racialised and more divided. Now we are seeing the flip-side: a White Lives Matter born of the same racial grievance. We will not defeat identity politics by building a mirror-image version of it.”

The case and, in particular, Nowak’s treatment by officers, has sparked international outrage. JD Vance, the US vice-president, blamed the “mass invasion of migrants” for Nowak’s death, despite the fact that Digwa was born in Britain.

Last Tuesday, a protest outside a police station in Southampton led by Tommy Robinson, the far-right activist, descended into violent rioting.

Hampshire’s attempt to issue a public statement after Digwa’s trial had already started is understood to have been motivated in part over concerns about online commentary and the threat of civil unrest.

However, warnings about the potential risk of contempt are normally issued by the Attorney-General’s Office.

This weekend, Hampshire Constabulary sought to defend its attempted intervention. A spokeswoman said: “Following the opening of the trial and the media reporting that followed, a significant amount of mis- and disinformation was circulating online. This included requests for information to be shared that had not been fully examined as part of the murder trial.

“The intention of the statement was to remind the public that there were ongoing legal proceedings and that the law is clear that nothing could be published which could prejudice the trial. The decision not to publish was taken following advice from the CPS.”

The prosecution service said on Saturday night: “The CPS highlighted to the police that protecting the integrity of the ongoing trial was essential, and of the risks of referring to any aspect of the evidence before it had been heard by the court and the case had been summed up by the judge to the jury.”

It added: “However, it was made clear that whether a statement was released was ultimately a police operational decision.”

Hampshire Constabulary had to refer itself to the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) immediately after Nowak’s death. The IOPC, which had stated earlier in the week that the officers were being interviewed as witnesses, said on Wednesday that it was seeking to determine whether there “may be misconduct on the part of any of the officers involved”.

Boon apologised to the Nowaks on Wednesday, two days after Digwa was sentenced. He told the BBC he was “distressed” by the bodycam footage of Nowak’s arrest and apologised on behalf of his force for how he was treated in his final moments.

Two days after his televised interview, he offered to meet the Nowak family. It is understood that they have not yet decided whether to do so.

The Nowak family has made clear that they do not want their son’s death to be used to stoke division. “They are obviously very upset with the protests that happened in Southampton on Tuesday evening — that is not in accordance with their wishes,” said Donna Jones, the police and crime commissioner for Hampshire, who helped support the family last week. “They are urging calm reflection.”

Jones, a Conservative, described the bodyworn camera footage from one of the responding officers, released publicly after Digwa’s conviction, as “the most shocking thing” she had ever seen. “Having watched the entire footage of over 45 minutes, do I think that Henry should have been handcuffed? No, I don’t,” she said. “He couldn’t even sit up. He clearly wasn’t [at risk of] absconding after arrest… I think that was an error in judgment, albeit mitigated by a very confusing situation that the officers [came] up to.”

Mark Nowak, Henry’s father, who was a senior manager at the supermarket chain Morrisons, contrasted the treatment of his son with that afforded to Digwa. Speaking outside court, he said: “Henry did not die with dignity. He did not die with the care he deserved. He lost consciousness before anyone believed him… The way he was treated was inhumane and degrading. His murderer, however, was afforded decency, he was believed… and as Vickrum Digwa himself told the court, while under arrest for Henry’s murder, police even took him to the kitchen so he could choose his food.”

He is leading his family’s calls for change in three areas: the law around ceremonial knives, policing and sentencing. They believe that Digwa’s prison term is too lenient.

Digwa, a member of the Nihang order of Sikhs, who pride themselves on carrying traditional weapons, had two knives on him that night: a shastar with a 21cm blade, which he used to stab Henry, and a kirpan, the ceremonial blade worn by Sikhs as part of their religious observance. The family do not want a ban on the kirpan, but they argue the law needs to be tightened to define more clearly what constitutes a ceremonial knife. They want a legal limit on blade length, alongside tighter controls on the online sale of religious knives, and hope to work with Sikh communities to achieve reform.

The family do not believe that the knife used to kill Henry would be recognised by most Sikhs as a ceremonial blade, however. Their hope is that they can stop other families suffering as theirs has, and that something positive can come from the cruel misery of Henry’s death.
Report DixieDean60 June 7, 2026 2:13 PM BST
Have the Guardian had any articles on the brutal murder of Alex Coughlan ? Or is the alleged ethnicity of his attackers too much for them to bear ?

Why are the powers that be in Ireland so desperate to keep the identity of these young thugs secret i wonder ?
Would they have been so keen to do so if the victim had not been white ?
Report saddo June 7, 2026 2:33 PM BST
White and gay. As cider posted yesterday, a bunch of gays were butchered in Reading
But the motive was never announced as being homophobia
Report Cider June 7, 2026 2:37 PM BST

Jun 7, 2026 -- 2:02PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


The police force accused of anti-white racism after officers’ response to the murder of Henry Nowak is over five times more likely to subject black people to a stop and search than white people, according to the latest figures.The racial disparity in the Hampshire force is higher than the average for England and Wales, and has worsened in recent years.


Ah, you believe in this 'equity' nonsense. No, I am not in the least bit surprised.

Report MALAY June 7, 2026 2:38 PM BST
Dixie I am no expert on these things I’m not a barrister but it’s a legal issue I think underage to be named, reading between lines the murderers knew him, evil ****, apparently from some reports they used disgusting English language.
Regarding disclosure of people’s identities in court cases via legal restrictions the same thing is happening in jeffery Donaldson case, although everybody knows who are the accusers names in Ireland but you are in bother if you disclose this on social media or main stream tv.
Report MALAY June 7, 2026 2:56 PM BST
Listen Dixie it’s all bad news, I have Irish Sunday world besides myself, majority of paper is about organised crime and violence, I preferred just reading football, dogs, horses and a wee swatch at page 3.
The world is in bad way, but there is nothing myself or you can change it.
It’s probably best ignored if you want happy life.
Report Cider June 7, 2026 3:04 PM BST
They'd much prefer that, Malay.

If there is anything at all positive to come out of Henry's horrendous case, and the attempted cover up, it's that normal people can no longer ignore the two tier establishment.

I very much anticipate it will be very similar in Ireland soon enough.
Report MALAY June 7, 2026 3:41 PM BST
Cider I know little about the lads horrific death, my friends lost their son in similar circumstances, it was devastating for family and was bad local people who done it. My friends have a memorial football tournament for him every year in Scotland, but it doesn’t bring him home, the evil people who done it are probably out now.
I certainly wouldn’t let them out, but I don’t work for the people who make they decisions.
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 7, 2026 4:26 PM BST

Jun 7, 2026 -- 2:37PM, Cider wrote:


Jun  7, 2026 --  2:02PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:The police force accused of anti-white racism after officers’ response to the murder of Henry Nowak is over five times more likely to subject black people to a stop and search than white people, according to the latest figures.The racial disparity in the Hampshire force is higher than the average for England and Wales, and has worsened in recent years.Ah, you believe in this 'equity' nonsense. No, I am not in the least bit surprised.


#actualtwotierpolicing

Report Cider June 7, 2026 5:32 PM BST

Jun 7, 2026 -- 4:26PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


Jun  7, 2026 --  2:37PM, Cider wrote:Jun

Report Cider June 7, 2026 5:40 PM BST
Do you actually believe that crime is randomly distributed across identity groups?

If so, you are wrong.

That's the inversion in a nutshell isn't it. People like you and Abbott believe that more black people being stopped and searched means police are picking out black people on purpose. The rather more obvious explanation is that crime isn't actually randomly distributed. That might be why the prison population in England is 96% male.
Report Cider June 7, 2026 5:42 PM BST
And no, they aren't targeting men. Men commit more crime, are therefore more likely to be stopped and searched, and eventually end up incarcerated.
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2026 5:52 PM BST
The Old Nanny

I replied re Alex Coughlan but my reply was removed inexplicably

hardly a mention in the MSM , all Very strange

About time the Law was changed regarding these underage Crimes , Name and shame all cases IMO

seems Alex was set up and then attacked is all I have heard
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 7, 2026 8:02 PM BST
So, black people arrested = perfectly legit, if anything it's under-representative.


White people being arrested = a travesty and an outrage, a clear sign of bias against the ubermensch.
Report the old nanny ;-) June 7, 2026 8:59 PM BST
Says who , i don't even know what you are talking ,Keep rambling on

word is Digwa had a cup of tea this Morning in prison , No teabag plenty of sugar
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 7, 2026 9:03 PM BST
soz case, my reply wasn't to your post.
Report Cider June 7, 2026 9:09 PM BST
Arresting (cuffing behind the back) someone who is literally and visibly dying in front of you. Yes, an outrage.

The vast majority of stop and searches will be valid. Whatever the identity of the person being searched. The fact that you and folk like you assume that more black people being searched = racism is the reason why we are where we are. That's why, for example, Calocane was let loose by the establishment to slaughter three innocent people, to try and keep the statistics balanced.
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 7, 2026 9:27 PM BST
You're putting up a single case.


I'm putting up blind data of thousands upon thousands of arrests.




I'm quite confident in my position.


#actualtwotierpolicing
Report tobermory June 7, 2026 11:02 PM BST
Nobody should be arrested if there is no reason to suspect they have committed an offence. Least of all someone who has been stabbed to death.

Stop and search is not being arrested.

I don't agree with random stop and search, but if you are going to do it it makes sense to target people who fit the profile of convicted knife criminals, rather than old ladies etc
Report Cider June 7, 2026 11:07 PM BST
Profiling that way is long gone. My understanding is that it now has to be intelligence led. For example, a traffic stop and there is a smell of weed in the vehicle but the occupants deny possession.
Report Cider June 7, 2026 11:12 PM BST
Stop and Search. April 2025 to March 2026.


Total Number of Stops. 15,113 in the last 12 months.

Arrests. 2,639 in the last 12 months.

No further action/advice. 9,014 in the last 12 months.

Positive Outcomes. 6,099 in the last 12 months.

Reason for stop.

Drugs. 10,168.
Offensive Weapon. 1,962.
Stolen Property. 1,920.
Going equipped. 651.
Criminal damage. 164.
S60 Anticipation of violence. 143.
Other. 60.
Firearms. 44.

Outcome of Stop.
No further action. 9,014.
Arrest. 2,639.
Community Resolution. 1,538.
Voluntary attendance. 457.
Summons. 283.
Warning. 91.
Caution. 73.
Other action. 40.
Property seized. 29.

Stops by ethnicity.
White. 10,902.
Not stated. 1,663.
Black. 906.
Asian. 686.
Mixed race. 565.
Other. 391.

Likelihood of being stopped and searched compared to white person.
Black. 5.1 times more likely.
Asian. 1.2 times more likely.
Mixed race. 2.3 times more likely.
Other. 3.1 times more likely.


The data speaks for itself, but the most critical element is missing. I wonder why.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 7, 2026 11:15 PM BST
Arrest Rates by Population

Official Home Office data shows clear disproportionality in arrest rates across different ethnic groups:

White: 10 arrests per 1,000 people.
Black: 19 to 20 arrests per 1,000 people.
Asian: 9 arrests per 1,000 people.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 7, 2026 11:17 PM BST
Arrest Rates per 1,000 People

The official ⁠Home Office ethnicity data shows distinct gaps when calculating the number of arrests per 1,000 people within each respective group:

Black Men: 38 arrests per 1,000 people.
White Men: 16 arrests per 1,000 people.
Black Women: 4 arrests per 1,000 people.
White Women: 3 arrests per 1,000 people.
Report Cider June 7, 2026 11:18 PM BST
6% of stops are black. So they are stating that just over 1% of the population of Hampshire is in that group. It's quirky data really as the sample is small, but they need to compare the 'Positive Outcomes' to the raw sample. ie How many of each group resulted in arrest. Which would be simple to include.
Report Cider June 7, 2026 11:24 PM BST
Very impressive hit rate as it happens, 40% of stop and searches resulted in action being required.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 7, 2026 11:31 PM BST
Total Number of Stops. 15,113 in the last 12 months.

Arrests. 2,639 in the last 12 months.

No further action/advice. 9,014 in the last 12 months.


40%, really
Report the old nanny ;-) June 8, 2026 1:30 AM BST
Its all over the internet that Digwa was attacked in prison , Yet no MSM reporting it , would imagine Daily Mail Etc would be all over it
Report saddo June 8, 2026 10:00 AM BST
Wishful thinking, I expect. They'll want to look after him until the dust settles.
I'm sure he'll get damaged inside at some point. He bragged to Henry that he's a
bad man, he'll find out what bad men are.
Report Stringvest June 8, 2026 11:06 AM BST
Maybe he will cosy up to the Filth Laugh
Report saddo June 11, 2026 4:58 PM BST
I've just watched Trevor Phillips take Lammy to pieces over this, my goodness Laugh
Report alun2005 June 11, 2026 5:44 PM BST
In what sane planet is Mastermind Lammy a Deputy Prime Minister?  Having previously of course been parachuted into many other posts way beyond his abilities.

Did you ever read about a taxi journey the maestro undertook in France?  The photos of the back of the cab alone were remarkable.
Report saddo June 11, 2026 5:50 PM BST
Phillips was like a cat with a wounded mouse, Lammy was battered senseless.
Report the old nanny ;-) June 11, 2026 7:29 PM BST
Trevor dont mess about  to the point and no Pony
Report the old nanny ;-) June 11, 2026 8:26 PM BST
Trevor and Nick Ferarri LBC , leave no stone unturned
Report Cider June 13, 2026 5:01 PM BST
Sky News' presenter Trevor Phillips has officially stepped down from the broadcaster for which he hosts its flagship Sunday morning politics show, Sunday Morning with Trevor Phillips.
Report saddo June 13, 2026 8:44 PM BST
I didn't know he worked at Sky, I've only seen him a couple of times and didn't notice the branding.
A huge loss I expect.
Report DixieDean60 June 13, 2026 9:27 PM BST
He's off to CBS News in the summer, so hopefully still time for him to skewer some more of our hapless politicians before he goes.

Not many decent interviewers left Sad
Report impossible123 June 15, 2026 5:14 PM BST
The sentence has been referred to the Court Of Appeal for being unduly lenient. I hope this will reflect on the murderer's mum impending court appearance / sentence for perverting the course of justice for removing the dagger and hiding it.
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