Lets be Careful out There

No reported incident of any swimmer getting into difficulty yet. I hope it stays that way the heatwave is over.

We were walking along the river Calder this morning and got
talking to some young lads, 11 or 12 yo. They swim in the river
a lot and I advised them that I wouldn't let my granddaughter near
it due to potential sewage contamination. They didn't care at all,
about temperature or sewage. I wished them well.

The body of a 15-year-old boy has been found after he went missing in a lake in Lincoln, police have said.

Emergency crews were earlier called to reports of a boy getting into difficulty at Swanholme Lakes at about 14:30 BST on Sunday.

Tragic

The advice is mainly directed at those carefree, foolish and uninformed youngsters. I think the advice to drink more water is helpful for everyone esp the elderly. 

I sustained a left calf strain from trying to hop over a dip on a pavement. But, the right foot did not react accordingly. I put this down to old age.

They have Managed to hit 33.5 At Heathrow According to Aunty , 747s blasting in and out all day, Nowt to do with it

Airports get hotter than surrounds because of tarmac and concrete

Always a good bet to record highest temps.

The staggering cost of Ed Miliband's Net Zero drive finally revealed: £4.5 TRILLION... that's more than the UK's entire GDP 

i missed this news item

29 Here today , Dont see them Temps too often , Back to Normal tomorrow , Next week pishing down NAP

not far off hs2

It's a lot of money to set an example to countries
who don't gaf, at least they'll benefit. It's an ill wind (turbine) ect...........

The decommissioning plan in North Sea was in place long before Labour came into power in recent years.

And it was Thatcher who destroyed Steel industry and coal mines, she probably done more for net zero than anybody when Milliband was at school.

Nanny you would know this guys greyhound prefix, decent engineering shop in Scotland but a lot of the stuff he was doing was going to Angola, Brazil, Norway not going to Aberdeen, that industry sector has been on downward spiral long before milliband appeared talking what ever dung he talks but other people are talking dung too and has to be recognised, if you want to discuss it.

I watched a documentary about the oil rig disaster, and they were stating that Thatcher was at the forefront of tapping into north sea oil, and the riches coming to Scotland. Obviously the operators were cutting corners and gambling in regard to safety of the workers. I was only a child when piper alpha happened, and the miners' strikes, so you're relying on what other people are reporting, which is never really free from bias.

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Three teenagers have died in separate incidents at beauty spots across England as temperatures reached record highs on Bank Holiday Monday.

Police in West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire and Warwickshire have confirmed the deaths of two teenage boys and a teenage girl, who were all pulled from open water.

The deaths came after a 15-year-old boy drowned in a lake near Lincoln on Sunday. His family have urged others to be aware of the dangers of water.

Tragic

'76 as mentioned above, was a one off year. I was 13/14 at the time and loved every minute of it. Temperatures of above 30c were rare thereafter, but lately over the past 5 or so years, they are becoming frequent and in May, it is almost unheard of.

If you live in the midlands, or up north, it isn't so bad but yesterday we hit 34 down here (35 in places) and that was uncomfortable. I managed to keep indoors at 29, still not great, but better than 34.

I agree the news does overcook it (pun intended), but a "spell of hot weather" is not so pleasant at those temperatures. 28 is nice and bearable, above that it isn't.

From what I recall, 76 stood out due to the duration. I was however 1, so obviously don't recollect any of it. We've had weather this nice hundreds of times, since when I can recollect it. Droughts and hosepipe bans aplenty.

To be honest, it's very British to be obsessed about the weather. All day on racing tv, presenters telling it's hot. No sh1t sherlock.

What difference does it make if it is warm this week or next week?

Not you Aspro, but I genuinely think people are getting progressively demented.

Millions of people literally spend thousands of pounds chasing the lovely weather we've had over the last couple of days.

I've been to Florida, now that was actually hot lol.

I've been to Florida and Vegas. Vegas was quite mild to be fair (both trips), Florida was hot but have no recollection of the numbers, but it was stifling at times.

The hottest holiday I ever suffered was in Portugal where it topped 100 (38) for a ridiculously long period; even the locals were complaining. It was considered a heatwave there, but probably not so much today.

As for May, my old man used to tell me that wait until the end of May before dressing down for the weather. I get your point, but it is still May, regardless.

It is late May, just another excuse for alarmism. Surely it's great that families with kids have had an epic bank holiday weekend of weather to enjoy. They remain pretty rare, domestically.

THEY turn the narrative from what should be positive news into one that people should be scared. Why?

Weather is the weather isn't it, wet, sunny, hail, storm, overcast, cold, hot, freezing, dull. We have 4 seasons which broadly have a pattern, but because the UK is surrounded by water, weather within that pattern is not predictable. Sometimes may will be cold, sometimes warm, sometimes average. One of my former responsibilities years ago was forecasting sales for supermarkets. And yes it was as unpredictable then as it is now.

I lived in France for a time as a kid, and got
sunstroke in 104° heat. well it was great to have
such heat, but not so great for a couple of days after.

Been in 40°c quite a few times since, and coup de soliel
never returned. Wear an 'at and drink more wata.

As a 7 year old,.. a group of lads from school, one in my
class, went off exploring an old mine/ well, all 6 of them died
of oxygen starvation. A real tragedy, and lesson learnt
the hard way. An empty desk at school a constant reminder
of the perils of life.

Florida was quite unbelievable. Far hotter than you'd ever experience in the UK. But they would have torrential rain, literally 10 minutes later everything is bone dry.

I did make the mistake of returning to the car after a day in one of the parks, and putting my hand on the boot. That's a mistake that you only do once, ha!

It's not making folk scared, it's teaching caution, like
being alarmist about touching cars.

Cider I totally get your point, hence my little dig at the press earlier. Nevertheless, it is getting hotter on a more regular basis. I am beginning to notice it myself without reading a letter in print.

When we came out of a Florida theme park I used to open the door, turn on the air con and then we all waited for it to take effect before getting in the car. Bliss.

It probably is, but cold is far worse than warm. Because very warm spells remain infrequent, people living in the UK are still unlikely to spend money on proper mitigation.

One of my first introductions to weather was the storm of 1987, walking to school past felled trees in the street. We lived a few minutes walk from Gladstone Park, that storm took out trees there that were there for over 100 years.

The point is that we have to deal with whatever the weather throws at us. 30C+ for Whitsun bank holiday is, on the whole, super positive.

That's opinionated. I'm not so keen on +30 temperatures

It is in the sense of whether you enjoy it or not, but the temperature in most parts of the UK will go over 30 now and again. And below 0. It isn't news, people don't need to be told to drink water. It just happens, whether they like it or not, and always will.

people do need to be told to drink water.

So easily fixed.

Down to parenting. Growing up I was always told to drink a pint of water for every 15 degrees Fahrenheit.

Funny to see the climate change deniers spouting their denials ITT on the hottest day in May ever.

If there is someone that needs reminding to drink if they are thirsty, you'd be right up there.

Reminding folk to drink when they are not thirsty
is sound advice in the heat.

Some folk just enjoy folk dying, it would seem.

Dont think the Kids are watching the same Media as us Donnie , so the bbc hysteria wont help them

Perhaps schools would be the place to give Kids advice

Perhaps even Parents could have a word

sad fact is the more time People spend in water , the danger increases

There was also a Period not long ago when Youngsters  were drowning in the river Wear on a regular basis at the weekend usually

Why would anyone enjoy Youngsters dying , that is a very strange Comment to make

I nearly drowned in a swimming pool when I was a Kid , Most swimming pools had a deep end and a Shallow end , The ones I had been in ..

The open Air pool at whitecity had Two Shallow ends the deepest part of the Pool was in the Middle , Not helpful when I exited the Changing room

And Jumped straight into the middle , was 6 foot 6 , I was bang in trouble , My mate managed to drag me to the side after a Minute or two

Seems like laughable hasn't improved since I blocked him.

So he thinks that kids who live on social meeja and their iPhones won't do something as the bbc warn against it on the 6pm news

The BBC love a climate Boiler Map Cider , where it appears the whole country is on Fire , If anything that would lead to people jumping into rivers etc at he 1st opportunity

Global warming should help in years to come as it will dry up all these reservoirs and lakes and stop people drowning.

Bit unfair as the Beeb are not alone with the Boiler maps  , Most media now the same

I mentioned Gladstone Park in another post. That actually had a very large free outdoor swimming pool for such weather. No fun sponges around at that time.

Yes , we would have the Weather forecast Chap showing us high numbers and telling us to enjoy it while it lasts

That park had that swimming pool, putting green, tennis courts, bowling green. A great place to grow up. Coincidentally enough I had a look on google maps recently and they are all gone apart from the tennis I think. Had a tremendous hill for tobogganing too, I assume that's still there !

A warning that the deep bit was in the middle would have helped you.

Remarkable that folk whine about warnings whilst cataloging
things they did because nobody told them not to.

Otters pretending to block me whilst I live rent free in
their heads is equally bizarre, just get over me.

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People have been warned of the dangers of swimming in open water after multiple deaths during the recent heatwave.

The Royal Life Saving Society (RLSS) issued a warning following the fatal incidents, most of which involved children, saying "warmer weather unfortunately sees an increase in accidental drownings".

It warned water temperatures remain very cold despite increased air temperatures, and that cold water shock could make swimming difficult and harder to get out of the water.

In all during the hotter weather, at least seven young people have died in the water, as well as a man in his 60s and a woman in her 70s.

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Funny to see the climate change deniers spouting their denials ITT on the hottest day in May ever

More alarmism as usual.

Considering the previous record was set jointly in 1922 and 1944 what were the excuses for such heat then ?

And i very much doubt it was the "hottest day in May ever", given reliable proper data only goes back 100 years or so.

Whilst 1976 was undoubtedly the "daddy" of summers i spent growing up, i distinctly remember summer holidays always being very warm. Exams were hellish (every year that i took them anyway) in sauna-like conditions. As a cricketer throughout the 70s i hardly remember a game being rained off, and during the long holidays we were always out in the local rec playing both footy and cricket pretty much all day .

You could put up warning signs every 2 foot , fence off the lake and have people saying do not enter the lake it is dangerous , and still people would go in .

76 is still the hottest daytime summer.

If you take full day averages it's down to 6th now
with all top 5 being in 21st century.

Some folk ignore warnings strawman, that's agreed, doesnt
stop the benefit of the warning.

What i am saying is that some people just ignore anything because they are either stupid or think they can do what they like , same as the idiots that go climbing mountains in a storm and then have to be rescued .

Boat people, ie illegal immigrants.

Yep some folk will ignore warnings and do stupid things.

Some cafes have warn folk that the coffee they serve is hot.

Darwinism at it's finest

'76 was prolonged, that's what makes it stand out so much. Just went on and on and on... bit like Alan Green

^ I can't swim either. Very good advice though Sage in getting children into swimming early,it may just have saved some of the i thought very high number of those tragic accidents.

That park had that swimming pool, putting green, tennis courts, bowling green. A great place to grow up. Coincidentally enough I had a look on google maps recently and they are all gone apart from the tennis I think. Had a tremendous hill for tobogganing too, I assume that's still there !

Pretty much the same where I live cider. My God we had it good.

Yes, adjacent to Gladstone Park there was a place called Park Side, a sports club with astro turf pitches, badminton etc. During the summer there would be events for kids in the park throughout the six weeks. Coles Green Road 2 mins fromour house used to have a tennis club. One bus ride away was Harrow Leisure Centre with huge indoor swimming pool with slides, and full size snooker tables. And of course Brent Cross shopping centre.

When you're a kid you think it's the same for everyone. Most of the homes round that way now wouldn't get you much change out of £1M. Some of them a lot more. Ours was a 3 bed council house which my Dad bought with 70% discount, sold up and left London. Before the property boom, though I got him to buy a 5 bed detached lol

One local park used to have putting green , football pitches , cricket pitches , cafe , athletics track with long jump pits etc inside , paddling pool , all gone .

We got bussed to copthall stadium for the athletics. Not something I was particularly excited about, running the 400M. It's a lot further than it looks

Two teenage boys have died in separate incidents in Kent and Oxford, the latest in a series of water-related deaths during the recent heatwave.

The body of a boy, 15, was recovered from a pond in Swanscombe, Kent, and a 14-year-old boy, named locally as Baltazar L'Quy, died in the River Thames in Oxford.

Their deaths on Wednesday bring the total number of people who have died in water-related incidents during the hot weather to at least 11.

Tragic

It is Tragic , Has been  plenty of news Coverage of previous Deaths Donnie ,as I said youngsters don't watch or look at the MSM

so putting up these Red Hot Maps for a couple of days will not make any difference ,I am sure the BBC ETC are fully aware of who their Customers

are , They are not youngsters ..

As stated this Should be dealt with at school or any Clubs the Kids are attending , If that would make any difference who knows ,But worth a Try 

Perhaps you can Enlighten us as to who these  Climate Boiling  maps are for , I my self think its Alarmism .

It was only the hottest day in may on record at heathrow airport where temp was taken surely? where i live we had half a days sun on the sunday and a sunny day monday. overcast as usual before and since.

Not sure about official, but reckon it was the record for May around here earlier in the week. Was stupidly hot.

Posts getting removed left,right and centre, i cannot understand why Sageforms one was,just a common sense post.

Perhaps you can Enlighten us as to who these  Climate Boiling  maps are for , I my self think its Alarmism .


If it challenges your yootoob echo chamber it's alarmism,... Hmmmm

The opening post is telling, going back not to far off a century to get the record and it was beaten by a considerable 7-8%,huge margin.
4 times in the last 7 years the thermometer touched 100f+ in UK,the highest on all records.Also telling.
Very early for this heat,mostly enjoying it but too much on maybe 2 days and hard to sleep. Back to normal next week.

Imagine you could bet on weather...

Highest temperature in London on May 29?


20°C or Below

Highest temperature in London on May 29?


20°C or Below... Less than 1%

21°C.... Less than  1%

22°C... Less than 1%

23°C.. Less than 1%

24°C... 8%

25°C.... 30%

26°C.... 50%

27°C.... 23%

28°C... 6%

29°C.... 2%

30°C or Higher.... Less than 1%



Ffs, less than sign doesn't work on forum....

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telling of what, lapsy. what do you want to do about it, a rain dance?

we have developed ways of coping with what the weather throws at us. be it umbrellas, raincoats, sunglasses, or ice lollies ! Parts of the world regularly experience extreme weather, Britain is not one of them, and won't be in your lifetime.

Telling that it is getting warmer Cider, 1911 comes in at no 8 in the all time top ten chart,the other 9 since 1990 and 4 of the top 5 in the last 7 years, that is all i'm saying and do you deny that?

I don't know. I don't know what temperature recording was like 8000 years ago, or whether it is consistent with this week.

I do know that you, I or anyone else can do anything about it.

Posts getting removed left,right and centre, i cannot understand why Sageforms one was,just a common sense post.

it's either really bad AI programming, or one of the sociopaths/clowns that frequent this forum is reporting
many random posts.

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I must have been using a different less than sign

Sometimes different fonts cause termination of post after
that point.

South East Water warns customers will be cut off as reservoirs run dry.

Neglected investment for years. Siphoned off money to pay dividends

TWO Data centres in Slough, estimated water use  3.8 MILLION litres a DAY. Larger ones up to 19 MILLION litres a day

Currently estimated to be around 100 data centres in the Thames Water area with between 70 and 108 due to be built

The summer of 1995 was a hot one and like 1976, went on for few weeks. Since then it has only been for what 3-4 days and then it heads back to the average for the period? A nice sunny and cloudy day here, not a million miles from Dublin. Currently 18 degrees, should hit 20 later.

Since privatisation, water companies sold off 25 reservoirs without building a single major one.

Now they want bill payers to fund a few new projects. Too little, too late.

Biggest con probably ever is surely bottled water.What sane person would do that?

Some people would be in the doo doo without it recently. It is daft to buy it for daily use but it is a good job there are reserves for when the taps run dry.

19 pts  - if there's eff all coming out of the taps then you'll be glad of a few bottles

Some of the good people of Whitstable and Maidstone have had little or no tap water for the last few days, SE Water is a joke.
The chairman and chief exec have both resigned in recent weeks due to being uniformly useless.

What incentive does it give them to fix leaks,supply clean water etc if they know folk will pay for it in bottles?

You obviously don't follow this on the news 19 pts - SE Water are having to supply thousands of bottles to customers who have no tap water. The queues have been several miles long at times

So not only do they have to pay for all that bottled water they are supplying, they also have to pay compensation to affected customers. And they will no doubt end up with another huge fine.  I'd say that was pretty good incentive to get their act in gear !

There are leaks absolutely everywhere, i cannot remember a time in the past few years where there hasn't been at least one or two occurring in my village. Just up the road from me there were SIX leaks in a 150 metre stretch of pathway in just a 4 month period last year. Some of these went on for six or seven days before being plugged. And several of them were gushing at a similar flow to turning on the kitchen tap fully, 24/7. It's criminal.

The queue for the water was so long, the lorry delivering the
bottled water couldn't get through to drop off point.

Not funny for those without water, but we brits see the
funny side,even in worst of times.

will be while before the Old BBC Boiler maps are up again , Bit of rain and Sun for the next few weeks , British weather is here to stay

WHAT HAPPENED ?

The weather is the weather but the water situation is caused by too many poeple in the driest part of the country? Surely a 10yo could see why that would be a bad idea. The biggest source of water in the south east is the Thames. How much water is extracted from the river for the needs of London? None that I know of.

Just build a big lake, dam the Thames and flood se england

Jobsagoodun

We've been getting flooded down here for the last few years yhtl - but not by water though

Although having said that we have the umpteenth water leak in the village  at the moment in exactly the same area as i've mentioned before

Water, water, every where,
And all the boards did shrink;
Water, water, every where,
Nor any drop to drink.

The very deep did rot: O Christ!
That ever this should be!
Yea, slimy things did crawl with legs
Upon the slimy sea.

About, about, in reel and rout
The death-fires danced at night;
The water, like a witch's oils,
Burnt green, and blue and white.

And some in dreams assurèd were
Of the Spirit that plagued us so;
Nine fathom deep he had followed us
From the land of mist and snow.

You googled Maiden before Coleridge to find that.



1.10 Maiden

10.0 Coleridge


1000000.00 Just knew it and typed it out

I actually memorised The Ancient Mariner many moons ago as i played the main man in a school production


Being an Evertonian and Albatrosses.....

I memorised a chuck of it, but that's a cup and paste

Of the bit I wanted.

Cut, even, cups on the brain!!!

a percentage of the Thames flow could be channeled through a purification plant such as those used on every reservoir in the country. Plenty of supply and minimal damage to the natural environment. Easier to go on emptying deep aquifers until they run dry. Very short sighted policy.

Could drive some small scale hydro electric too, which
would power the plant.

I still think widescale flooding is best.

Quite a few lakes near to me, including the well known Blue Lake, currently used as a leisure activity centre.

Its 100 ft deep and about a mile and a half in circumference, plenty of water for the village when needed the water is such good quality it needs only minimal treatment to be used domestically.  It's fed by spring water that takes about three months to travel here from the Chilterns.

Plenty of places have more than enough water but the South East with a very dense population does not have enough. I live about 10 miles from the Mendips which produces loads of springs of fresh water such as Cheddar, Wookey and Wells. In the home counties there are few hills to create rivers suitable for reservoirs so the Thames is the obvious source.