UK - Next Prime Minister after Keir Starmer

*porcy.

Maybe you have proof that it was actually a political donation, and used for his campaign. And are just holding the evidence back for perfect timing. Or maybe you're that conspiracy theorist that you accuse others of being.

May 14, 2026 -- 10:49AM, Cider wrote:

It's almost as if you don't understand the rules. Just like the red queen, funnily enough.

Like this one?

The Commons code of conduct states that new MPs "must register all their current financial interests, and any registrable benefits (other than earnings) received in the 12 months before their election within one month of their election".

May 14, 2026 -- 10:51AM, saddo wrote:

Do you actually think anyone in government really standing up to Islam wouldn't need security 24/7? Farage has gone a bit soft on Islam recently, perhaps personal fear would explain that, I'm sure he's not after their votes

Oh my god.


Have you just fallen in line now like a good little soldier? The free-thinking free-thinkers are covering themselves in glory over this one.

You don't think there is any danger of him being attacked then, porcy. Ok.

A gift is not a financial interest or registrable benefit.

God forbid, the investigation is fair, presumably they are verifying that it isn't a registrable benefit.

May 14, 2026 -- 10:56AM, saddo wrote:

You don't think there is any danger of him being attacked then, porcy. Ok.

There probably is. But I don't see any connection between that and a £5m donation, apart from the hastily cobbled-together excuse given to a friendly newspaper when he got caught out.

A gift is not a financial interest or registrable benefit.

It will all come out in the wash, no need for hissy fits, and ott smilies.

Exhibiting your ignorance. Do you know what those terms mean?

May 14, 2026 -- 10:59AM, saddo wrote:

It will all come out in the wash, no need for hissy fits, and ott smilies.

Indeed.


Which is why I'm not the one having the hissy fit about it being investigated.




Cider - if semantics is your best argument while losing your mind over a mp from a different party getting some clothes, then I can only wish you luck.

Im not defending Farage at all. If he has breached the rules then he should face punishment. Its just that for most people fiddling your taxes is a bigger crime than failing to fill in some sort of registration form. Rayner shouldnt even be an MP let alone be a contender for the top job.

It's not semantics. You claimed to understand the rules, then quoted one of them. It helps if you understand the specific terms used in the rules :)

I'm not sure most people would agree with that dotch.


Trying your best to pay as little tax as poss, maybe not declaring a cash in hand gig here or there is something most people could probably agree with.


A politician vying to lead the country receiving £5m from a bloke based in Thailand, working in an industry that is essentially based on criminality and then trying to hide that from everyone would probably seen as threatening our democracy by those same people.

May 14, 2026 -- 11:04AM, Cider wrote:

It's not semantics. You claimed to understand the rules, then quoted one of them. It helps if you understand the specific terms used in the rules :)

Well, if you're so confident that once again, you know the rules which exonerate one of your faves, then it'll all come out in the wash, and your hero can once again play the besieged hero.

Calm down calm down la. Try using less column inches imo.

If I feel sorry for you and gave you a couple of grand for more biftas, you don't need to declare it to anyone.

If I give you a couple of grand for mowing my lawn for the next year, it's tacit employment and needs to be declared by you to hmrc.

I know as much as you what happened to the gift and what it was used for. Which is exactly nothing. I'm telling you what Farage is claiming is within the rules. If he did actually spend it on his campaign and not personal security after all then yes, he will have breached them. Farage is a lot of things, but not stupid. I don't think he is making it up, when he knows that they will pick at absolutely everything he does.

You've basically just said why there needs to be an investigation. Farage hid it, then came up with an excuse when it came to light. If it was just an innocent gift, or indeed actually "for his security" and perfectly within the rules, then he could easily have just announced it when he got it and moved on. But he didn't. The obfuscation on its own suggests wrongdoing and is reason for investigating.

So its ok for someone who undrpaid their tax by 40K to run for PM yet fail to declare a gift when you werent even an MP and people want you suspended from Parliament and a by election.


He's underpaid stamp duty too. As well as a £5 mill bung and a £1mill bung
And lives with an immigrant woman who bought their home with undeclared funds

I have no issue with an investigation. It's vexatious in my opinion.

The old liberalists keep stating ad nauseum that he has 'questions to answer'. He has answered the questions, the liberalists just don't like the answers.

Your logic falls down at the first hurdle, as it usually does. If there's nothing in the rules that state it needed declaring, how is not declaring it hiding it? By implication you are already implying guilt before you know anything. This story has been going on for weeks now, talk about flogging a dead horse. Someone received a gift before they got involved in front line politics, the authorities want to verify nothing was done wrong. The end.

They're so bitter. It's understandable, but still funny.

He hasn't answered any questions

At least Rayner has settled her stamp duty underpayment
Farage has not

You can laugh now, but it won't go away.

Anyone spotted any adults in the room?

Just the panic room.

'The grown ups are in charge'
I remember that one, what a judge

The Ukranian 'models' must be in tears thinking they were waiting on remand for their big day then all this happened.

God, imagine if we just trusted politicians and simply moved on when they gave an answer.



Christ, it'd still be the stone age.

It's only consistency that is needed. Not a word you'll find in the lefty bible.

Give him a minute while he looks for another boring stereotypical label.

Can you please tell us who the last politician who took a five million quid donation from abroad and didn't need to declare it.


For consistency y'see.

Laughable spent many years starting hundreds of threads attacking Tories. Tories no longer relevant, switched his obsession to Reform.

We must assume that no labour, liberal or green party member has never had so much as a parking ticket. Or, he is biased beyond obsession.

Before farage?

Probably spaffer, based on sudden wealth spike.

Cider still schrodingers blocker

Simultaneously blocking and trolling me

Ha ha ha,

Rent free

Quite a few on here would be better going full Carol Vordermen.

I think there will be a few people doing a politics punter/Donnie Osmond by the time the next election comes round.

Who knows pineapple, MPs don't tend to get their personal data stolen and published by an ostensibly serious publication (Farage himself didn't get a £5M donation, and when he did get that sum as a gift, he wasn't a MP). Don't let facts get in the way, though :)

So, you can't produce anybody then. But still claim it's not consistent.



lol

the money was for my security latest:


BREAKING:

Reform UK leader Nigel Farage bought a £1.4 million property in cash shortly after receiving a £5m personal gift from billionaire donor Christopher Harborne, according to property records seen by Sky News.

Nor can you.

to demonstrate your consistency, which was your last post critical of a labour MP ?

Wes Streeting resigns at 1pm.

May 14, 2026 -- 12:59PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:

the money was for my security latest:BREAKING:Reform UK leader Nigel Farage bought a £1.4 million property in cash shortly after receiving a £5m personal gift from billionaire donor Christopher Harborne, according to property records seen by Sky News.

Maybe it's got a really good Ring doorbell to be fair

May 14, 2026 -- 1:00PM, Cider wrote:

Nor can you.to demonstrate your consistency, which was your last post critical of a labour MP ?

Yesterday. Streeting.



Consistency time.


When was your last post critical about a Reform MP?

I asked you which was the post?

porcy and donny like two loyal old blind Labradors.
I don't know of a single person in real life who defends this shower.

I called him a mini-Dave Cameron or something like that.



your turn?

Lol

I don't know of a single person in real life

Would fit better for you.

From the man on here day and night 7 days a week

You do know you can use betfair whilst doing other things

Maybe give it a bash sometime.

Anyway, back on topic.



Streeting is making his move.


I think he must be the only person in the country who doesn't realise he has a chance. If it's a h2h v Starmer, he still loses.

I go out a lot, I can't use the forum on my phone, but thanks.

Streeting ain't got 81 names, yet

Had to resign,...

Shot his bolt?

The thought of you sat on pc all this time is hilarious

Genuine lol

Nothing showing up on a search, pineapple. That would be a compliment anyway

Clearly it's not like for like, there are a handful of Reform MPs and they have no power or influence. If you watch the committees for example, no Reform MPs on them. They can't do anything that could be criticised. They don't get six questions at PMQ.

Perhaps it's more relevant to reference tactics, I said that bringing NZ in was an error. The just won the local elections as a new party, there isn't a great deal to criticise is there. Not like the Tories or Labour. If I see something pertinent I will post it.

Labour Leadership Voting Intentions:

Starmer Vs Zardoz:
Zardoz: 61%
Starmer: 28%

Starmer Vs Hantavirus:
Hantavirus: 46%
Starmer: 39%

Starmer Vs Mrs Brown's Boys:
Mrs Brown's Boys: 45%
Starmer: 41%

Starmer Vs Streeting:
Starmer: 87%
Streeting: 0.2%

Is that you saying that you've not criticised any of them yet?


Who'd have thunk it?

Any polling on Mrs b v hanta, lol

RENT BOYZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Wes Streeting has resigned to take the job he was born to do…regional sales manager for Moss Bros

We're currently watching the muppet show, and none of the stars are Reform MPs. It's daft to claim there is an equivalence.

The prudent example is when I was a Tory supporter, I was highly critical on multiple occasions. I posted the letter that I sent to my Conservative MP on here.

Muppets, lol

Frog face kermit is still star of the show now
his 4 houses are being unwrapped and displayed

Prescient one might say :)

Former Banker / Trader has bags of cash shocker.

Adds routinely lies to list.

May 14, 2026 -- 1:01PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:

May 14, 2026 -- 12:59PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:the money was for my security latest:BREAKING:Reform UK leader Nigel Farage bought a £1.4 million property in cash shortly after receiving a £5m personal gift from billionaire donor Christopher Harborne, according to property records seen by Sky News.Maybe it's got a really good Ring doorbell to be fair

I see Nige has now pivoted once again and stated that the payment was made for political reasons.


Meaning it should definitely have been declared.



Quite the political operator.

Kier the Rock is still standing,i think that some are starting to lose the run of themselves and the last few days have been well...for nothing.

Fromage deffo said all them millions was for top security for himself,i know that.

I wonder how much spaffer got, in total...

Farage says the £5m he received from Christopher Harborne was a “reward for campaigning for Brexit for 27 years.”
Farage a few weeks ago: “The £5m gift was for security.”

Rewards are taxable, aren't they?

aaah... financial security for himself?  He should be ran out of Westminster.

yeah, reward for work done...

^ Tend to think that also.
Not sure the work he has ever done benefited any Britons but he is v good at rope a dope.

Is he gone?

The gift that keeps on giving.

The entire country awaits the king of the north

As if this constituency's electorate is going to play along with labour's sh11t show

Vote Burnham, get starmer out

Really tough sell

Can't believe some of the prices I've got on Burnham this last month. Clearly the only legit successor to Starmer.

I put him up at 6/1 when he declared he had 81 mps.

starmer can still block him, but might be his last act as pm.

Legit to have a prime minister that isn't even in parliament. That takes some level of cerebral gymnastics :)

What happens if team Green beat Burnham in the Local ?

It's considered a safe refuk seat by polling
20% majority

Green have zero chance

May 14, 2026 -- 6:12PM, Cider wrote:

Legit to have a prime minister that isn't even in parliament. That takes some level of cerebral gymnastics :)

Very true ! I worded that very badly !

Personally I think it demonstrates how politicians have zero feel for real people. I will genuinely be very surprised if they don't object to be used in this way. Assuming Burnham gets on the ballot, which isn't a given.

Referendum on the United Kingdom's membership of the European Union
As Counting Officer for the WIGAN voting area at the referendum held on 23 June 2016 under the European Union Referendum Act 2015, I hereby certify that::

Results of EU referendum
The total number of ballot papers counted was:    163,381
The number of votes cast in favour of REMAIN was:

58,942

The number of votes cast in favour of LEAVE was:

104,331

The number of ballot papers rejected was as follows:

108

Must be one of the strongest leave areas in the country lol

I wonder if the Conservatives will field a candidate in that by-election.

Burnham Might win Makerfield and will be Prime Minister, ..BUT NOT FOR LONG...ITS ALL ABOUT THE BOATS, INIT !!

Must be one of the strongest leave areas in the country lol

You really think the lumpenproletariat are still patiently waiting for Brexit to kick in

It's truly inspiring to see Wes Streeting call for decisiveness in govt after a week in which he denied he'd resign; then resigned but said he wouldn't stand as leader; then said finally he intends to stand as leader, so we can rejoin the EU, a policy he was dead against last week.

Russ Jones

Burnham says he wants to save Labour -- what about trying to save the country Andy?

First things first...

Issue piling up for Burnham by-election -- First rejoining the EU in a Big Brexit area, now grooming gangs.

That's before the Greens start on his support of Israel.

Keir reportedly deciding when to set out his exit timetable, before or after the by-election. Big blow for Andy if he does it now.

If Starmer steps down before a contest, does the market get settled on Lammy as next PM, since he's deputy? All it says in the rules is:

"In the event of any dispute around who is the Next Prime Minister after Keir Starmer we will settle this market on the Prime Minister as published on https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/prime-minister"

I've seen a bit of ramping of lammy elsewhere too.

Starmer should stay in office until a new leader is elected.

If he doesn't, then you can lawyer up

See Teresa may resignation.

May 18, 2026 -- 6:48PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:

I've seen a bit of ramping of lammy elsewhere too.Starmer should stay in office until a new leader is elected.If he doesn't, then you can lawyer upSee Teresa may resignation.

As it happens I'm on Rayner, so to speak, just had the thought that maybe a small insurance premium on Lammy might be wise just in case? Surely Starmer knows that even standing against the no. 10 cat would mean certain & humiliating defeat.

He would remain in office until new person elected.

Of course he might die, but otherwise it's straw clutching imo.

May 18, 2026 -- 7:00PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:

He would remain in office until new person elected.Of course he might die, but otherwise it's straw clutching imo.

Ok, thanks for the clarification. In which case I won't bother.

money for Jones over the last day or so, a bit unusual.