Mandelson failed vetting – but was given job anyway

Nigel will sort them.out, adults back in the room.

The thought that Nigel Farage is an adult

Plenty on here thought Starmer was
Even the wretched James O'Brien has given up on him

Tim Allan, the head of comms at 10 Downing Street was told Mandelson failed his security vetting in September 2025.

Are we supposed to believe that Starmer hasn't met with his head of comms for 5 months?

Shameless (and shameful) Labour.

The sad thing is that Labour can stay in power for another 3 years and the potential replacements for Starmer range from Cooper who at least has some long term experience in Government to a bunch of far less experienced left wingers who will bankrupt the country (if it is not already bankrupt)
Interesting question. Could Ed Balls stay on as a news presenter if married to a PM?

Cooper, like Starmer and Streeting, is affiliated to the Labour Friends of Israel

403 MPs and you wouldn't trust any of them to run a bath never mind a country

If Starmer is not lying about being uninformed, none of them actually run the country.

Keir will survive monday

an new bad info will come out Tuesday

Rent Boyz in court end of month they may as well bin him now.

Credibility lower then Randy Andys

When TF is he going to accept responsibility for something that happened on his watch?

These lefties do not do responsibility, could get rid of miliband, stop the boats, have a controlled migration policy,cut benefits for the non worthy but that would mean all they been pushing for years was wrong and they don't do being wrong it doesn't compute, would m3an their world view is off.

Tories had 14 years, didn't do it, refuk are just ex tories
so won't do it.

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https://news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-keir-starmer-peter-mandelson-vetting-commons-iran-war-olly-robbins-12593360

TWO wrongs and all that larky..... NIGE  NIGE  NIGE  NIGE  NIGE  NIGE  NIGE  NIGE  NIGE  NIGE  NIGE  NIGE  NIGE

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/starmer-mandelson-speech-vetting-robbins-epstein-live-updates-b2960616.html

Just watched some Labour MP being interviewed about Starmer. I think the public are now sick and tired of politicians not answering questions

Been that way for years starmer should be better than that.

If he's not then he should be disappointed in himself, and decide
what he wants to do.

“Mr speaker I know many members across the House will find these facts to be incredible�

House erupts with laughter

Even Richard Nixon had more credibility than Two-Tier.

His absurd statement comes one again with the perfunctory 'apology' to the 'victims of Epstein'.

No apology to Britain though.

John Mc saying he got  Monies to back the Labour party campaign Through Mandleson , thats why he gave him the Job

His only argument is that he wasnt told , which he keeps repeating like a parrot , there is no way on earth he didnt know but for whatever reason we dont know he simply wanted mandelson for that post

Is there any chance the UK's ambassador to the US would almost need Trumps 'approval'? Conjecture but plausible imo he had some say. Starmer of course cannot ever say that.

It's all horse schitt obviously, no wonder they conspired to destroy the phone, and deleted all of the communications.

In PMQs he stated he had confidence in Mandy, the day before Mandy walked the plank. We're expected to believe that nobody told the quarter wit Starmer. Sorry sir, he actually failed the vetting don't you know

Just turned it on, plenty of space on the government benches.

How many other people in the blob have failed vetting lol

Can you remember the lefties cwying and scweaming over Boris and a slice of cake?

It says in the ticker, new policy that people won't be handed jobs until they have passed vetting. Ground breaking stuff

Was waiting for someone to blame Trump.

Sorry, crying and screaming. Lefties always make me think of Violet Elizabeth Bott.

He loves China doesn't he, could be masochism going for 1000 cuts. It is the gift that keeps on giving, to be fair.

Otherwise known as a portent, alun.

Why did farrage say that mandleson was an excellent
appointment as ambassador to USA.

Surely farrage being in the Epstein files would know
about mandleson.

Nigel Farage has said he would be willing to help Peter Mandelson negotiate with the Trump administration, after the Labour grandee was confirmed as Westminster’s new ambassador to the US.

Lord Mandelson has indicated he believes the Reform UK leader, a friend of Donald Trump, could serve as a link between the UK and the Republican president-elect.

Farage has previously offered to use his relationship with Trump and his team to act as a bridge between them and Downing Street. He told the Telegraph he would be willing to work with people in Labour if it was in the “national interest�.

“I am no fan of any of the people in the Labour party, but if it is in the national interest I have always thought I could be a useful asset if they want to use that - but if they don’t, more fool them,� the Clacton MP said.

Why did farrage say that mandleson was an excellent
appointment as ambassador to USA.


Starmer has just been through 2 hours of Prime Ministers avoiding and deflecting answering why he appointed him so maybe once we get an answer to that important question we can whatabout to Farage.

•questions

Desperation stakes 

Seems as if farrage was happy, and yep...

the groovy gang are desperately hoping
folk had forgotten.

2 people kicked out today for telling the truth

The liar gets to stay lol

Fairly easy device to gain publicity

Do something against the rules, get kicked out.

Not the first, nor the last to go for calling somebody a liar
when so many synonyms are permitted.

A choice to get kicked out, 30p leeanderthal

The Speaker has accepted Kemi Badenoch’s application for an emergency debate on Peter Mandelson under Standing Order 24.

Badenoch said: “There remain serious inconsistencies in the government's position.�

The debate will take place after Olly Robbins has given evidence to the Foreign Affairs Committee. Appears this matter is far from over

Peter stevanovic

So funny that you can not use the word LIAR in the house of commons

Just a convention they use for publicity.

Bit like not being able to swear on the forum.

John Macdonell statement

https://x.com/i/status/2046248488980414802

Sums the lot up , Wonder where this Party 

Funding that Mandelson was getting was Coming from ?

Starmer Promised him the Job  and that was that

I bet Starmers court appearances were short , Do you have any questions for the defence ? , No your honour , Case Dismissed

Its seems that Starmer will stay on for now, but I suspect Labour MPs will turn on him after May 7th and get rid.

The state of the cabinet though, who will take over? David 'mastermind' Lammy, Rachel from Accounts? Yvette Cooper is even weaker than Starmer - she looks more suited to working in a charity shop or a florists than running the country.

Perhaps Angela Rayner will make a comeback? The disgraced ex Housing Minister who couldn't even work out the stamp duty on her own property, so naturally went for the lower rate. She also 'pledged' to build 1.5 million new homes by 2029 - how's that coming along Ang?

poor sod starmer can't catch a break, after another disastrous session in the house yesterday, including being humiliated by Diane Abbott no less, along comes Robbins to speak coherently for nearly 2 hours, and evidently on top of his brief. Unlike the complete muppet in charge of the Labour party (& nominally the country, unfortunately).

That story about Doyle in of itself should be enough to take down a pm. In normal times.

Apr 21, 2026 -- 6:18PM, Jack_Kray wrote:

Its seems that Starmer will stay on for now, but I suspect Labour MPs will turn on him after May 7th and get rid. The state of the cabinet though, who will take over? David 'mastermind' Lammy, Rachel from Accounts? Yvette Cooper is even weaker than Starmer - she looks more suited to working in a charity shop or a florists than running the country. Perhaps Angela Rayner will make a comeback? The disgraced ex Housing Minister who couldn't even work out the stamp duty on her own property, so naturally went for the lower rate. She also 'pledged' to build 1.5 million new homes by 2029 - how's that coming along Ang?

I just don't personally see those elections being such a factor.

Everyone knows they're gonna get a hammering. It's well baked into the odds. If he's gonna go it's gonna be over a scandal like this. If the locals were one year before the general, then it could be a different story, but I still see the MP's - if they're happy to persevere with him after the last few days - will look to ride the next elections out and hope something changes.

I don't think they are happy, but the factions fear
the other side winning new election, so don't push too
hard, yet.

At some point something has to happen.

Starmer likely sees today confirming his position.. as set
out.

Mandy has friends in high places.
Who was forcing the hand to sign him up quickly?
Starmer a puppet.

Porcupine - I didn't mean that the May 7th results will cause Labour MPs to turn on him, as I agree it is widely known Labour will take a hammering, but that they may as well keep in in place until then so he can take the fall for that hammering.

He's already gone and is not going to see out his fall term no matter what, so the May 7th disaster, from a Labour POV, is best done on his watch. No point in turning on him before one of the biggest humiliations in the history of the Labour party when it's just a couple of weeks away.

Whoever replaces him isn't going to turn things around either, they will just be less annoying - we need a GE as a matter of urgency to start digging us out of the hole.

There is irreparable damage being done under Starmer's Labour - immigration and the the new 'Super' Chinese Embassy, with it's secret rooms and location next to London's financial district, being two examples of many.

We had an election for 5 years

People voted for them, against corrupt tories and rejected racist refuk.

Revisit that in 2029

Obviously even if Starmer resigned today, there wouldn't be a new leader in place by the time of the upcoming annihilation. Nobody else is going to take the hit for that, he owns it.

I'd have thought we were already past that point, but at some point surely other people associated with Labour will not be able to bear the abject humiliation any longer.

And actually running the country should come into it, not just the Labour party psychodrama. Starmer is evidently incapable, incompetent, and the job is beyond him.

He's like Unlucky Alf............oh, bugger.

Does anybody think this will affect Scottish Labour chances at upcoming elections positively ? because the guy who runs them distanced himself from Starmer recently, be interesting to see.

Apr 21, 2026 -- 7:50PM, Jack_Kray wrote:

Porcupine - I didn't mean that the May 7th results will cause Labour MPs to turn on him, as I agree it is widely known Labour will take a hammering, but that they may as well keep in in place until then so he can take the fall for that hammering. He's already gone and is not going to see out his fall term no matter what, so the May 7th disaster, from a Labour POV, is best done on his watch. No point in turning on him before one of the biggest humiliations in the history of the Labour party when it's just a couple of weeks away.

That's a fair point, though you could equally get rid now and the fresh new leader gets a free pass as the losses are blamed on the old guy and they're turning a page etc. And obviously that would almost certainly be after anyway.

I still just think back to when the Mandelson thing first broke. If the MP's were minded to get rid of him, that was the time. By all accounts they had a good think about it then but decided against and the main reason is that the likely replacements were Streeting (who the members would hate and has more ties to Mandy than Starmer) and the crook Rayner. As I said, if Burnham had been allowed to stand and win, then Starmer would be gone immediately and it would just be a procession. The only replacement of the current crowd I can see is Miliband. He seems to have the right distance from this mess, and is actually doing a good job with his brief in looking to move us away from oil and gas and has announced plans which could really lower fuel prices. He always seems the most capable of the ministers. Obviously he's had a go at it before, but in reality that seems another age. How many PM's have we had since his short spell as oppo leader? 8 is it? More than enough water under the bridge to let him have another go. My money's already on him and I'd see no reason to back him again at current odds.

To a man and woman, everyone in the Labour party will know that Starmer is gone. To the man in the street electorate though, who have a far lesser knowledge of politics, the optics of Starmer being PM during the May 7th massacre will benefit Labour more than if he is gone before then.

Streeting waits in the wings, waiting for his Casca

Apr 21, 2026 -- 9:02PM, Jack_Kray wrote:

To a man and woman, everyone in the Labour party will know that Starmer is gone. To the man in the street electorate though, who have a far lesser knowledge of politics, the optics of Starmer being PM during the May 7th massacre will benefit Labour more than if he is gone before then.

yeah, that's a fair point

The most damning thing we learnt today is No.10 had a useless Director of Comms, Matthew Doyle, who they wanted to get rid of so they asked Olly Robbins to find him an Ambassadors job as a consolation prize!

Robbins said he couldn't do that.

So Doyle was made a Lord.

It later turned out he was mates with a peado and lost the Labour whip.

Jobs for the boys

I think we are lucky to live in a country where Epsteins friends are castigated, where there's a
sizeable chance that a PM can lose his job because it's not ok to employ and lie on behalf of savile types.

Meanwhile, elsewhere, their leader has appointed a cabinet, half of which are known associates and no one bats an eyelid.


We are lucky to live in UK.

Moves in America to pardon Ghislaine Maxwell.

Pardon her for keeping her mouth shut?

What have qualifications or ability got to do with job appointments?
Years back our HR dept recruited a person to work in finance.
Previous experience was washing dishes in a hotel. True story.

McSweeney appearing before Thornbury today.


He's giving a lot of "I Can't recall" answers


Arms firmly folded, Occasionally touching his face, like a lot of those "Contestants" to on that game show "24 hours in Police Custody"

Where is Farage?

He seems to have gone awol over this mandy scandal.

I seem to remember he made noises that he was wanted and was best suited for the ambassadorship when Trump got elected.

Has he made any comments?

Trying to do well in some elections, presumably.

Media desperately trying to say its a crunch vote , not when you have hundreds of starmer sheep being told what to vote for it isnt

What is pretty astonishing is that this Irish dweeb was effectively running the country for over a year. Can't recall anything for definite lol.

His tale about chasing after the alleged phone snatcher

Law needs changing to stop all party's from using the whip to ensure a vote is won. Should be a free vote on all issues.

Law needs changing to stop all party's from using the whip to ensure a vote is won. Should be a free vote on all issues.

Brexit would never have happened.

some MP's would vote in favour of who ever gave them the biggest brown envelope all the time instead of just some of the time.

Mps change law, so would need to be whipped...

Tonight Labour played the FAMILY VOTE

Any MPs found guilty of voting for personal gain/bribes would be expelled from being an MP for life. Only problem is there'd be very few left to govern.

It's a tad odd that some people are focusing on the whipping system as undemocratic.

Any new law has to get passed a completely undemocratic House of Lords, a non elected
body comprising of the unelected clergy (like Iran), the unelected hereditary lords, the unelected political
appointees such as Boris's russian school chum, his unelected 29yo female 'junior advisor', and his cash for questions donor was appointed overruling the HOLAC independent watchdog..... etc etc etc.
The place is choc a bloc with these types.

The HoL demonstrated it's disregard for democracy just last week by derailing the assisted dying bill
which the democratically elected representatives had passed.


whipping or HoL, which is more undemocratic?

People vote for candidates knowing they will
be whipped.

Anybody pretending otherwise is a bit dim or trolling.

Refuk have a chief whip, it's 30p Lee, who whipped his
Mps when told to do so.

They obviously haven't got a scooby do what "Independent" means as a party name on the ballot.

The whole system corrupt and has been for years. Tories & labour are 2 cheeks of the same ar@e, Liberals and Greens well I wouldnt vote for them any number of brown envelopes. The one thing Reform/Restore do have going for them is theres no form in the book (collectively, not individually) for fooking up the country.Cant see any other alternative to be honest.

The one thing Reform/Restore do have going for them is theres no form in the book (collectively, not individually) for fooking up the country.

Lol, you were doing so well.

Prove me otherwise.

How many failed Tory MP's (who were running a failfest government for 14 years) are now reform MPs?

I did say collectively not individually.

They were collectively tories.

Greens and lib dems have done no damage, yet except lib dems
in coalition.

Brown envelopes, lol, stuffed with Roubles buying farage and
his party colleagues that he lied about not knowing.

Who bought his house in Clacton that he lied about
buying

Has tice paid his dodged tax yet?


What about jenricks £40,000 from a foreign donor
that is still being investigated in his failed tory
leadership bid.

What about faragess connections to bannon and russia
in the epstein filrs

But you were doing so well

The one thing Reform/Restore do have going for them is theres no form in the book (collectively, not individually) for fooking up the country.

Whipping is exactly the same as Family Voting. End of.

Some people on here cant see the wood for the trees and would just like to keep voting in the same uniparty every 5 years.Thats fine then do so. I for one wont be doing that (and in a current) free country that is my perogitive. However pointless debating on here as the revert to type is attempted ridicule followed by abuse. Sums up the way society is today I suppose.

But the party of Jenrick, Zahawi, Braverman and Dorries is the refreshing change we need is it?





Good grief lad, just say you'd vote for a pig if it had Nige's support. Don't try to give an ideological justification that falls at the first hurdle.

It's pointless for you debating as you clearly haven't a clue
so don't debate having had your illusions shattered.

If you have good points they would stand up

But you are entitled to vote, and it's better that you do vote
than don't vote, imo

I wont respond to your juvenile taunts and wish you good day and may your party go with you.

You just did

Live long and prosper

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The Liebour fanboys are increasingly rattled, and no wonder.