The Straights of Hormuz

Donald Trump is terrified

Day 104

Trump has announced that a deal is "soon" on 39 of the 104 days of his war.

I believe it is only 38 times that he has claimed a deal was about to be made but he lies so frequently, it's probably gone up since I started typing.

US inflation surges to three-year high of 4.2%

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0myzxjkw99o

I’ve not followed this dung for a while but I thought yer man was going to sort this out in a day, why did that not happen?

Trump has stated 55 times that he defeated Iran. 

Trump has stated 35 times that Iran is destroyed.

Trump has stated 38 times that a deal is imminent. 

Trump has stated 25 times that the Strait of Hormuz is open. 

Elect a clown, expect a circus.

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Reckon a good few on heere will be locked in fierce bidding for Murrel Knicker collection.

The Iranians are jerking Donald's chain. They know the midterms are coming up.

This is the nemesis of President Trump and his henchmen. Gone into the war emotively and blindly now trying very hard to wriggle out of it without looking like a pillock and a numpty by mad Putin President Xi of China.

I think this would be his legacy in his 2nd term. Taco man and his henchmen eating humble pies aplenty.

Iran saying the US now bombing reservoirs. If true that's a war crime.

I think the cease fire is over too.

Trump launched "self defence" strikes against Iran tonight, ceasefire is over.


Are there any Trump supporters in this forum?
Are you still loving this war?

He appears to have been stood down.

Back to clown school.

Trump says deal agreed!!!

Another one!!!

Oddly the only things you can believe is what the Iranians say.

Trump only said a deal was imminent so he could call off his latest strike threat.

The yanks are running out of missiles.

Tehran would not cede control of Hormuz in deal with US, Iran state media report

Iran’s official Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) has cautioned against media speculation about a potential memorandum of understanding to end the war, particularly on claims regarding the strait of Hormuz.

IRNA reported that Iran will not surrender its control of the strategic waterway and the US will have no role in its future management.Tehran would not cede control of Hormuz in deal with US, Iran state media report
Iran’s official Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) has cautioned against media speculation about a potential memorandum of understanding to end the war, particularly on claims regarding the strait of Hormuz.

IRNA reported that Iran will not surrender its control of the strategic waterway and the US will have no role in its future management.


To no one's surprise the deal is off!

The problem for Trump is he's running for ways to present any agreement as a win. The yanks are gonna have to either give billions in re-building money or un-freeze Iranian billions, something Obama did way back when, but they're also demanding control of the Strait and to charge a toll. If they get both those things they end up in a far stronger position than they were going in and can therefore rightly claim they've won. Trump just can't face that but the Iranians are refusing to buckle on it. They've replaced the previous leader with a bunch of military bods who see fighting to the death as honourable and conceding as worse than treachery.

Iran's red lines; get control of the Straits of Hormuz and keeping their nukes

Trump's red lines; no control of the Straits of Hormuz and no nukes.


The Iranians are just going to out-wait the Donald. Midterms are coming.

It's not even the mid-terms. Oil reserves are starting to hit the floor now. Some Asian and African countries are sending workers home and are at fairly drastic measures to temper consumption. And the oil isn't just oil etc. It gets used in all kinds of stuff, so the global economy could really be in trouble in so many different ways. The Iranians know this and every single day that passes makes their hand stronger and stronger. Give it another month and they'll be demanding America nukes Israel as part of the deal.

Lol^
Great news,there seems to be a deal!
US giving Iran billions in frozen assets and waive sanctions on its oil exports, meanwhile the Straits goes back to the way it was.
(source RTE)

Still closed.

Only one reason why this hasn't reverted to the same deal with now plus 'compo' prior to Feb.

The world stood back in fear from the US 'lobby' and what threats could mean against them.

Good news for the world, only one reason this cannot proceed and continue, hopefully won't happen.

Donald Trump said the strait of Hormuz will reopen on Friday after the initial memorandum of understanding is signed (in Switzerland), and confirmed the US naval blockade on Iranian ports will be lifted.

Under the terms of the deal, the strategic waterway, through which a fifth of the world’s oil and liquid gas usually passes, would be gradually reopened as Iranian forces clear mines during the first month.

However, there remains uncertainty about the status of the strait going forward. In an interview with the NY Times on Sunday, Trump claimed the waterway will be “permanently toll free” . But on Iran’s Mehr state news, it was reported that a memorandum of understanding between the governments calls for the reopening of the strait within 30 days under “Iranian arrangements”.


How can the Iranians clear the mines when their navy is at the bottom of the sea?


It'll be a brave tanker captain who navigates the Strait of Hormuz any time soon.

Details are in short supply, and those that are available are opaque, but it seems the 'deal'
Donald has signed, is a blank sheet of paper !?


The Iranian's can and will put all their demands on it, and it's already signed.


Very bizarre.

In the deal if Iran behaves itself they get $350 billion to rebuild their country.

The first country in the history of the world to get that much when they were defeated 50 times in the one war.

Wait and see if Iran kick off again PA ,  it wont be the states it will be other Gulf Countries as well , Saudi have had enough They will side with the USA

In any future Action , Tyrants holding the Gulf to ransom Wont be going on Much longer , I think there maybe a few arms smuggled in over the next few Months

Might help with the Uprising

Iran have run out of Options and money and friends TBH

Don't agree TON,they will only kick off if Israel don't stop what they are doing in Lebanon. bibi is the big loser as he needs this to continue and are trying to sabotage peace.

Trump has told him to Hold Fire ,perhaps other pressure is needed

Well you,me and the world are paying for this farce TON, sod that.

YEP

Iran closes Strait of Hormuz over Israeli attacks on Lebanon

Just can't help themselves.Keep dropping bombs,not for a good reason but for their own reason they know they are nearly under the bus.

Netanyahu wants a forever war with America supplying the weapons and money.

It's all kicking off again.


Another "Forever" war

A million Iranians shouting Death to Trump must have upset him.

Were you capo?

They wouldn't have been chanting Slogans such as "Death to Khamenei", "Death to the Dictator" and "Death to the Islamic Republic" as they all got machine gunned.

Just a thought.

The 60 days of talks might not have being going well.

Trump's MAGA base might be more likely to support endless war to pointless talks.

He's not been in a good mood lately.

Belgium should have let balogun score 3

Trumpy would be happy, no more war.

Trump says it's open.

Iran says it's closed.

What do the crews on the burning ships say?

Trump says it's open if you pay him 20% of cargo value...

Protection racket in open sight.

Trump claims the US will control strait of Hormuz and get paid for it

The US president, ⁠Donald Trump, said on Monday that ⁠the ⁠United States ​would probably take over ⁠the strait of Hormuz and should ⁠be reimbursed for ​controlling ‌the vital ‌waterway.

“We’re going to ‌keep the strait, and we’ll probably run it. We’ll become the guardian ‌of the strait.

Iran strikes two UAE tankers in Strait of Hormuz

Sorry, Donald, but it sounds closed to me!

he didnt take long to taco, the 20% toll is no more.

winning bigly.

Trump's only cards are the: Bombing Iran card, Invading Iran card, and the Retreat card.

What value is there in bombing rubble?

And no way would Trump risk any US soldiers being taken prisoner.

Still closed according to the Telegraph,

US doesn’t have enough missiles to return to all-out war with Iran

Pentagon official warns dwindling missile stockpiles could limit operations against Tehran

Think it should be Two bridges for a ship attack,Don started a bit low.

Trump is already bombing rubble on behalf of Israel.

There have been 1,100 people killed in Gaza since the 'ceasefire'.

Saudis have have attacked the Tyrants Muckers in Iraq , UAE have given Iran a stern warning that they have had Enough

the clock is Ticking

Desperate times for the pally Rally and Anti Semites

Two tankers hit overnight in the Strait of Hormuz. Four turned back.

Does that sound like the actions of someone begging for a deal?

Nope , and the Arab states need to take the right Action , these Tyrants need to be totally Isolated

About the genocide and the herding in to an even smaller ghetto?  Yes,maybe.

Ben Gvir is 'encouraging emigration' (source BBC) They seem to want them all out.where will they go?

I don't think anyone thinks the Iranian mullahs are anything but s bunch of murderous thugs.

Just like Netanyahu & Ben-Gvir.

All of them should be in cells in the Hague.

... and Trump called off his threat to F****** beat the S*** out of Iran.

TACO Saturday

America just doesn't have the ammo.

Getting very excited about a lot of death are ye not?

You actually believe Merka is running out of ammo, you think they would actually  declare that if it were true?

Meanwhile, Your guys are being degraded by the week, short on everything with winter approaching,no help from Russia or China either.

They won't admit defeat until they are called winners with total control over the region,that ain't happening any time soon.

They are going to be forced to enter peace talks, and the sooner the better but it may take a further round or two of hard love.

You actually believe Merka is running out of ammo, you think they would actually  declare that if it were true?

Meanwhile, Your guys are being degraded by the week, short on everything with winter approaching,no help from Russia or China either.

They won't admit defeat until they are called winners with total control over the region,that ain't happening any time soon.

They are going to be forced to enter peace talks, and the sooner the better but it may take a further round or two of hard love.

And 20 years after that was written first time round, they gave up and hastily retreated from afghaniland with not a victory parade in sight.


Do you think it will be different this time?

Is "no more wars-peace prize" guy waiting until after the mid terms to put troops on the ground?

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"God is the Greatest, Death to America, Death to Israel, Curse be upon the Jews, Victory to Islam"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houthis

This mob too will need some  medicine, a very interesting read. The sort of thing that might appear in a far leftists  utopian dream.

Sounds like butlins in its heyday without, the beer, music, entertainment, family games or bookies.


If this appeals more than the gov in Yeman then a lot of hard lifting still to be done.

Another 72 hours of "Definitely deal very soon" moving into "If they don't deal very soon they'll regret it" come and go.



next cycle in what? 10 days?

Trump has to threaten Iran with annihilation before we can get back to the next *deal in 48 hours* promise.

Iran issues tough demands to reopen strait of Hormuz as deal still out of reach

Iran has issued tough new demands for reopening the strait of Hormuz, while the United Arab Emirates said one of its ships was targeted by an Iranian missile, as a deal to open the strategic waterway remained out of reach on Saturday.

Iran’s politburo-like body known as the supreme national security council said the strait of Hormuz will not open until the United States “corrects its behaviour”, and its state broadcaster published a statement from the council’s secretary, Mohammad Bagher Zolghadr, who is also a commander in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC).


The US must never threaten Iran again, the statement said, and must permanently end the war with Iran and its armed allies in the region. The US must lift the naval blockade of Iranian ports and withdraw its military from the area. It also must “completely compensate” Iran for war damage, lift sanctions and “unconditionally” release frozen assets.


Does that sound like someone begging for a deal?

Trump threatens to declare strait of Hormuz ‘territory of the United States’

Funnier and funnier

Iran has declared the strait closed until after Trump leaves office.

Stating they will no longer negotiate with him, and reitterating their demands for $300bilion reparations which Trump agreed to in the previous peace deal.

Sadder and sadder

Donald Trump threatened to ‘bomb the s***’ out of Oman if it continues negotiations with Iran without American approval as the ceasefire with Tehran nears its expiration.

Oh dear. Pass him another peace prize

Oh Man, Oh Man, Oh Man.

The two most powerful countries militarily in the world at the moment each have a deranged or partially deranged incumbent as the leader. I hope GOD would pass judgements on these two narcissistic, egotistical and psychotic leaders in their old age.

Reports are coming in of a tanker being boarded by armed men off the coast of yemen, who have now seized control of it.

Details are sketchy, is it unclear if Trump has moved his piracy operation from off the coast of Venezuala & Cuba to  the middle east or if it's other copy cat criminals.

Oil up to $94

Will DJT have to give the FIFA peace prize back?

The Somalian pirates are back in action. They were once very active doing the same a few years back. One of their main reasons was that the Western oil companies needed to pay for the damage they caused in their drilling and leakage of oil into the sea killing the fish in Somali waters, and decimating the livelihood of their fishermen.

US attacks an iranian island and restarts the war.

US Army Secretary resigns. ( I tried asking google, don't think any US army Secretary has ever resigned )

Oil up to $92 again.

UK & US Bond interest rates at 2008 bank crash levels.

Just as well he resigned, the last thing an army needs is disloyalty.

Straits still closed and now they're throwing missiles at each other again.

Trump and these Ayatollahs deserve each other

Oil up to $102

Trump straits jackets on ebay

The climate communists will be happy.

Been sayin for years, get oil to fck, solves a lot of problems.

This will seal the deal and rush to electric will be complete long before 2050.

Only a loony tune wood buy a new ICE.

This ought to be renamed 'Trump is Hummus'.

Being ant-oil is anti-human. The world has only been able to grow to the population it is now because of cheap oil. These cretins would happily deny the poor people in undeveloped nations the benefit of cheap oil.

The dumb are getting dumber

That's a very intelligent argument.

Been sayin for years, get oil to fck, solves a lot of problems.

we are paying for Wind that we cant Use 

Wembley explains everything.

He 1.01 doesn't live in UK.

Most of us on here, right or left, unconsiously post subtle "sub text" nuances unique to experiencing life in UK.
His are from the 1990's

You being willing to take 1.01 on that is the reason Escapee you are always on the phone to Ocean Finance. I have lived here since the 50s as it happens.

I see what SNC is getting at about Wembley but personally I don't subscribe to such racist thought patterns. Actually I believe the average IQ in Wembley has gone up not down(as SNC implies), since we have had an overwhelming number of immigrants move into the area. As far as I am concerned diversity is our strength.

Anyone who behaves like and takes on the persona of a "paid actor" is going to get noticed as such by some of the winners on here

Then when you start noticing nuances that are and are not there, after a while you realise that so much, so many small things are just completely missing.

1.01 not living in the UK

It's a shiithole.

I disagree. There's no evidence race plays any part SNC in average IQs.

If you want to know where Britain went wrong then Wembley would be a good place to start.

Wembley hosts some of the most prestigious world-class matches in the world.

Trump has made several social media posts effectively claiming he is the obstacle to any deal.
He's repeated multiple times that Iran really really want a deal, are desperate for a deal etc.

if iran is desperate for a deal, then Trump must be the person blocking any deal.


Pundits are saying Kamala could stop the war and stop the killing

Still closed.

223 days for a war that was won on Day 1

I don't think the war will stop while Dave and his major ally are in office.

It's too useful as a device to keep the focus away from the other major attrocites going on in the middle east.