Trump’s Afghanistan comments ‘ultimate insult’, says mother of wounded veteran

Surely any senior politician running for office in the next 12 months or so is gonna look at Mark Carney. He was peripheral in Canada, and the leader of the other party - can't even remember his name now - was massively odds on to win. But that guy was on friendly terms with Trump. Carney came in and was very robust. Elbows up. He stood up to Trump where so many have vacillated.

Since then, politicians have generally continued to vacillate. And it's generally been ok. We know what Trump's like and how you have to coddle him and how his opinion can change day by day. But outburst like this, which deride the brave men and women who died helping America, are going to continue as his acuity fails while his arrogance grows.

And come the elections, politicians will be forced to address him. What they think of him, what they would do about him.

And I think the lesson with Carney is that the ones who stand up straight and fight back will find favour with voters.

His often demonstrated stupidity is mystifying/quite astonishing.  I’d love to know how he managed not to fight for his country in Vietnam.  He would have been in his late teens, early twenties as it came to its full boil.  Tens and tens of thousands in that age group died.

Chickened out and got daddy to sort it.

No doubt.  Wonder if he followed the Canada Trail?  Hundreds did.  I well remember a Panorama programme about it, which I think can be believed.  

What was the Credence song about it?

Anyway, lots of politicians' and rich people's kids were able to dodge the draft. Just needed the right weight of brown envelope to go to the right person.

Trump might double down and call them suckers and losers.

As if Carney winning in canada was anything to do with Carney. You probably think Starmer won the general election as he was Starmer.

It all occurred due to Trump's trolling.

In regard to the OP, it is quite amusing to see the old left wing come out to moan about Trump. And they are deadly quiet about Labour going after veterans from the IR terrorist conflict, and lining up compensation for the terrorists.

And the Chagos sell away, obviously.

I definitely caught a bit of Carney visiting Trump in the WH. From what I recall, he was bending over just like the rest of the wet wipes.

Has anyone asked Blair if he still partaking in that shambolic Board of Peace?

I suppose he should seeing as its mainly populated by War Criminals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_83-Q4VawQ&t=4586s

(unedited version)

obviously what Trump has said is total rubbish as usual, and purely to belittle Europe and provoke a reaction.

Even if the soldiers from other NATO nations had actually taken a back foot then who could blame them with the American forces record for friendly fire? over 20 British soldiers killed by Americans during the Iraq wars, the septics think they are all Rambo as usual, just obliterate everything in sight

Very strong response from Starmer. Excellent leadership.

Jan 23, 2026 -- 5:45PM, ArchStanton. wrote:

obviously what Trump has said is total rubbish as usual, and purely to belittle Europe and provoke a reaction.Even if the soldiers from other NATO nations had actually taken a back foot then who could blame them with the American forces record for friendly fire? over 20 British soldiers killed by Americans during the Iraq wars, the septics think they are all Rambo as usual, just obliterate everything in sight

Of course, it's BS. After so many years, Trump still manages to trigger people into a stuper with a few words.

wonder what the extreme right wing lunatics think of Trumps comments ?

cider, just google elbows up maybe if your memory's failing so bad

From Wednesday

MPs have voted to remove a measure providing conditional immunity from prosecutions for Troubles-era crimes from the previous Conservative government's legacy act.

Jan 23, 2026 -- 5:54PM, morpteh mackem wrote:

wonder what the extreme right wing lunatics think of Trumps comments ?

They'll stick their fingers in their ears and lick his arris like they promised to do.

Turns 80 years old in a few months. Usual treatment would be a degree of respect but a reduced expectation.

who cares about what 'extreme right wing lunatics' think about anything. It would be akin to finding out what David Paulden thinks. Irrelevant.

You know, he could have syphilis. His clearly rapidly declining mental state could be explained by that diagnosis.

Third or late stage (tertiary syphilis)
Syphilis can go on to cause serious damage to your heart, brain, bones and nervous system, years later. This damage can be life-threatening.

You could experience stroke, blindness, heart problems, dementia and loss of co-ordination.

It can still be treated at this stage, but it might not be possible to repair damage that has been done.

donald is spot on

uk supported usa in the war on terrorism

now they could be letting them

illegal immigrants from a terrorist base country

...and they dont even know who they are ffs

madness utter madness

Jan 23, 2026 -- 6:10PM, yak hunt wrote:

You know, he could have syphilis. His clearly rapidly declining mental state could be explained by that diagnosis.

It's unlikely for teenagers to carry syphilis imo

Jan 23, 2026 -- 5:45PM, ArchStanton. wrote:

obviously what Trump has said is total rubbish as usual, and purely to belittle Europe and provoke a reaction.Even if the soldiers from other NATO nations had actually taken a back foot then who could blame them with the American forces record for friendly fire? over 20 British soldiers killed by Americans during the Iraq wars, the septics think they are all Rambo as usual, just obliterate everything in sight

Rambo story is about a country  who put their troops into a war that had very dubious causes, (French Indo China and the Catholic Church ).

The Troops come home and are hated by sections of their own people and local gov and law enforcement  treats them badly.

Mentally damaged by scars of war Rambo in the initial film is pushed into a corner and comes out fighting.
Rambo first blood has all the marks of an anti war film imo. Not sure he kills anyone innit and shows the US up badly in many departments, the trigger happy are the national gaurd and certain elements of local law enforcement.


The rest of the rambo series are harder to understand but  phurst blood is clear.
A phine movie, apart from using a 2 stroke 125 for the sound effect of an XT 250, a 4 stroke single.

As for Afghanistan war, noone on heere are qualified to suggest who done all the heavy lifting, you can't count it through kIA numbers.

For years I have heard people suggest the yanks didn't arrive in ww2 until it was over but truth is Russians and Americans made great sacrifices as did UK and many more, anyone who pays the ultimate sacrifice fighting for their country deserves the greatest respect.

But Trump never disrespected the dead, more the undead perhaps and I would not be surprised if there  was some truth in it.

NATO is a joke and designed to make it easy to prevent conflict but when it comes to it this stand off with Russia shows just how flimsy nato is.
And don't forget Russia wanted to join, I think after Gorbachov and perestrioka a big op was missed.

Trumps words and meanings are like rambo films imo, often mistaken and true meanings missed. Although it's being done by our very own propaganda machine, the BBC.

I see the  bike guy was deployed to the front today, he is bullet proof now  innit.

Jan 23, 2026 -- 6:16PM, irishone wrote:

donald is spot onuk supported usa in the war on terrorism now they could be letting them illegal immigrants from a terrorist base country...and they dont even know who they are ffs madness utter madness

wtf you on about , do you think his comments about British troops are a disgrace  or not ???

There is a very good Cold War Steve cartoon on him today. Dunno how to load it on here but someone else might know.

Denmark,pro rata,per population,had the 2nd most deaths in Afghanistan.

But hey hoy,it’s you’re own kind of facts and truths that matter in this day and age.

Test the real reason about Greenland.

Tell trump,you can have the island for defence,to secure USA safety,but Denmark will still mine the minerals and oil.

See what happens then.

Like all good capitalism,they eat their own once they’ve eaten everything else.

They’ve got the Middle East oil,now want NATO’s,

Just criminal thug mafias,like Putin.

Like Boris and the tories,robbing money from their state is all they care about.

Then reign it back if sussed,till the next generation try and rob some more.

And Paul dacre and his ilk,fool you into falling for this.

Camp Shorabak (formerly Camp Bastion) is a former British Military airbase, located northwest of the city of Lashkargah in Helmand Province, Afghanistan. The camp was situated in a remote desert area, far from population centres.

As the largest British overseas base since World War II, it was a massive, 30,000-person "city in the sand" that included a major airport. It was dismantled in 2014 and handed to Afghan forces.
Key details regarding the British base in Afghanistan:
Location and Size: Built in 2006, the base was located in the desert of Helmand Province, northwest of Lashkar Gah. It grew to be roughly the size of the UK town of Reading.
Role and Infrastructure: It served as the central hub for UK (Operation Herrick) and US military operations. It featured a high-volume airport, a major trauma hospital, and extensive security with a 30ft fence, radar, and watchtowers.
Withdrawal and Legacy: In late 2014, the base was dismantled and handed over to the Afghan National Army, renamed Camp Shorabak. Following the withdrawal, the site was largely abandoned and dismantled, with many, but not all, parts falling into disuse.
Key Incidents: In September 2012, a significant Taliban attack on the base resulted in the deaths of two US Marines, damaged aircraft, and highlighted security failures.
Although Camp Bastion was the main base, other locations like Main Operating Base Lashkar Gah were also significant during the conflict.

Trump Interested in two things himself and the States , No need to be insulting Troops who fought alongside Americans in Afghanistan , would imagine the yank Troops would say the same

He is having a dig at NATO , no need for insulting troops that  have fought in wars  ..

where does that stop ?

IRA fought for years to get the British out ....no insults there then ?

Well said TON, a no class comment that should never have been made.

Trump is protecting american interests and the american people

its a pity the uk po!iticians didnt and still dont look after their people and not illegal immigrants from Afghanistan in particular

His problem and $38 trillion debt but bad mouthing all and sundry isn't gonna get him much sympathy.

Cold war steve

https://x.com/i/status/2014624584419385574

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He can't say what he said Irish , its not right from any angle, Plenty of troops injured as well ,Needs to say sorry , but he wont

Starmer giving it the Big Un ,  all he wants to do is send our Army  to Ukraine with the French , no one else getting Involved

we just about have an Army as is , can't see too many rushing to recruitment offices tbh

Forces Piling up in the Middle east Stand by for action , But what will it Achieve ? The Tyrants need removing but yanks involved and every lunatic in surrounding countries will be heading to Iran

another endless war , Thousands dead as is

"he cant say what he said ?". thats pretty fascist ennit ?

Who says so ? Starmer ....pmsl

He said it , hes allowed to have an opinion , you might not agree, millions might not agree with you

but ..... free speech ?

Trump is asking the question......

Has anyone in Europe got any testicles ?

I would not be great supporter of the British army although the people sent to do to the job, in fairness it was a job they were paid. I certainly wouldn’t do that job, but I think Trump is being unfair to say British we’re not in front line.
Should they have been there ? That’s a different argument

irishone 23 Jan 26 20:42 
"he cant say what he said ?". thats pretty fascist ennit ?

Who says so ? Starmer ....pmsl

He said it , hes allowed to have an opinion , you might not agree, millions might not agree with you

but ..... free speech ?


You obviously agree with Trump

Trump knows the Europeans are under military undermanned

They are farting about trying to get an army together

Trump is playing them along

The Europeans and the British politicians

are being told to show some testicles

The conflict in the 6 counties is a great example of settling things, both sides would have said we will make concessions let’s give a rest and move on no more aggression or violence.
I know Middle East is mad but Russia Ukrainian should just say let’s finish this madness, nobody can win.

yeah .....agree


but trump is thinking he can win from it

https://x.com/i/status/2013300850622370122

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https://x.com/i/status/1989750200248783180

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malay

do you really think the 6 counties , was a great example of settling things ?

i get sick of Brits asking me what part of Southern Ireland are you from ?

LoyalHoncho • January 23, 2026 4:43 PM GMT
His often demonstrated stupidity is mystifying/quite astonishing.  I’d love to know how he managed not to fight for his country in Vietnam.  He would have been in his late teens, early twenties as it came to its full boil.  Tens and tens of thousands in that age group died.

he got the maximum number of deferments possible for being in college, four. lots of americans (overwhelmingly white ones obviously) used this as an excuse to avoid the draft, hundreds of thousands. then his doctor diagnosed bone spurs and this meant he could defer again. he was, though, something of a college athlete, maybe this caused the spurs, cough, cough. i dont think he had any treatment but, as if by magic, the bone spurs healed themselves over time.

in the past he liked to criticise john mccain over his vietnam experiences, mccain was a pilot, and a sh1te one at that, if i remember correctly. it has been suggested that he shouldnt have been allowed to fly but i dont know if that is true. mccann was taken pow and tortured.

At least it was peace Irish I’m just back on forum wasn’t banned I honestly have loads of more important things to worry about.
GL to everybody we all need it.

Who says so ? Starmer ....pmsl

I have as much interest in what Starmer says as I do in Wiping my arris

Was not only Brits was others as well  , needs to show respect to the fallen

Trump is the biggest Wind up Merchant to hit Politics ,he has them running round like headless chickens

I cant Stand half of these Eurocrats so thats all good with me ..

his comments were not needed , the MSM are delighted why give them Ammo if you will excuse the pun ..

Then we have he is getting Blair involved with Gaza I mean WTF is that about ?

I looked at the Pictures of the New Gaza,  is he moving Gaza to another Galaxy ? Bizarre

As for Blair and Gaza , its akin to putting  statues of Jimmy savile up in Junior schools .

I have as much interest in what Starmer says as I do in Wiping my arris


Let the Mrs do it, or some bloke in the pub...

Trump see the situation as madness

The UK and the USA fought in Iraq and Afghanistan for freedom

they lost thousand of soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq

A few years later you are letting in illegal immigrants

Guess where they are from ?

This is the UK government today.... Of course Trump is taking the pi55

Britain needs a wake up call

Tommy has been saying it for years

Hopefully Trumps comments which have upset everyone

Might liven them up a bit ...



And anyway ....isn't freedom of expression a human right ?

Farcical scenes unfolded after Trump flung days of insults at allied leaders, raising fears that NATO was about to implode. His initial refusal to rule out sending troops to take Greenland — which is already alliance territory — seemed torn from a bad futuristic thriller.

I will ask again has Blair been asked what his opinion on Trumps comments are?

Job done Left wing lawyers sticking up for the British Army.

Time Trump was gone before he  commits any more damage in the world.
The guy has totally lost the plot

Doubt Trump has many regrets in life, but bet he woke up this morning with some. At least I hope he would. Awful comment which needs an apology.

Trump a draft dodger, total hypocrite

Do 79 year olds wake up with regrets about the stupid things they said the day before? I dont know but i doubt it.

Trump will never issue an apology.  Look at the response of his aides to the criticism if in any doubt.  They actually amplified it.  There are people in his employ, who work behind the scenes, who are viciously anti-Europe and brief him to that effect, it seems to me.
That is the real concern for me.  He is paving the way, creating the climate for real fanatics to follow him.  I hate to say it but it reminds of a previous hard-line spearhead of tyranny, but it does.

3 years left, could lose control
of government at end of year.

Then it get interesting.

Gets

real@DONALDTRUMP.    That’s as near to an apology as we are ever likely to see.  Can’t see it ever assuaging the anger and hurt of relatives and loved ones of deceased veterans.
Stupid, ignorant, inconsiderate man.

Shame on me.  Not to mention those many crippled and disabled veterans who still live among us.

You don't make an apology by saying the exact opposite to your intial statement. An apology includes the word sorry.

As good as you get from him but at least he's kind of acknowledged it. Regrets, he's had a few. This one needed addressing.

Taco