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By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 23 Jan 26 16:18
Surely any senior politician running for office in the next 12 months or so is gonna look at Mark Carney. He was peripheral in Canada, and the leader of the other party - can't even remember his name now - was massively odds on to win. But that guy was on friendly terms with Trump. Carney came in and was very robust. Elbows up. He stood up to Trump where so many have vacillated.

Since then, politicians have generally continued to vacillate. And it's generally been ok. We know what Trump's like and how you have to coddle him and how his opinion can change day by day. But outburst like this, which deride the brave men and women who died helping America, are going to continue as his acuity fails while his arrogance grows.

And come the elections, politicians will be forced to address him. What they think of him, what they would do about him.

And I think the lesson with Carney is that the ones who stand up straight and fight back will find favour with voters.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 23 Jan 26 16:43
His often demonstrated stupidity is mystifying/quite astonishing.  I’d love to know how he managed not to fight for his country in Vietnam.  He would have been in his late teens, early twenties as it came to its full boil.  Tens and tens of thousands in that age group died.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 23 Jan 26 16:44
Chickened out and got daddy to sort it.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 23 Jan 26 16:49
No doubt.  Wonder if he followed the Canada Trail?  Hundreds did.  I well remember a Panorama programme about it, which I think can be believed. Devil  Grin
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 23 Jan 26 16:57
What was the Credence song about it?

Anyway, lots of politicians' and rich people's kids were able to dodge the draft. Just needed the right weight of brown envelope to go to the right person.
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 23 Jan 26 17:19
Trump might double down and call them suckers and losers.
By:
Cider
When: 23 Jan 26 17:24
As if Carney winning in canada was anything to do with Carney. You probably think Starmer won the general election as he was Starmer.

It all occurred due to Trump's trolling.

In regard to the OP, it is quite amusing to see the old left wing come out to moan about Trump. And they are deadly quiet about Labour going after veterans from the IR terrorist conflict, and lining up compensation for the terrorists.
By:
Cider
When: 23 Jan 26 17:27
And the Chagos sell away, obviously.
By:
Cider
When: 23 Jan 26 17:30
I definitely caught a bit of Carney visiting Trump in the WH. From what I recall, he was bending over just like the rest of the wet wipes.
By:
Racingqueen
When: 23 Jan 26 17:34
Has anyone asked Blair if he still partaking in that shambolic Board of Peace?

I suppose he should seeing as its mainly populated by War Criminals.
By:
Cider
When: 23 Jan 26 17:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_83-Q4VawQ&t=4586s

(unedited version)
By:
ArchStanton.
When: 23 Jan 26 17:45
obviously what Trump has said is total rubbish as usual, and purely to belittle Europe and provoke a reaction.

Even if the soldiers from other NATO nations had actually taken a back foot then who could blame them with the American forces record for friendly fire? over 20 British soldiers killed by Americans during the Iraq wars, the septics think they are all Rambo as usual, just obliterate everything in sight
By:
yak hunt
When: 23 Jan 26 17:51
Very strong response from Starmer. Excellent leadership.
By:
Cider
When: 23 Jan 26 17:52

Jan 23, 2026 -- 5:45PM, ArchStanton. wrote:


obviously what Trump has said is total rubbish as usual, and purely to belittle Europe and provoke a reaction.Even if the soldiers from other NATO nations had actually taken a back foot then who could blame them with the American forces record for friendly fire? over 20 British soldiers killed by Americans during the Iraq wars, the septics think they are all Rambo as usual, just obliterate everything in sight


Of course, it's BS. After so many years, Trump still manages to trigger people into a stuper with a few words.

By:
morpteh mackem
When: 23 Jan 26 17:54
wonder what the extreme right wing lunatics think of Trumps comments ?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 23 Jan 26 17:55
cider, just google elbows up maybe if your memory's failing so bad
By:
Cider
When: 23 Jan 26 17:57
From Wednesday

MPs have voted to remove a measure providing conditional immunity from prosecutions for Troubles-era crimes from the previous Conservative government's legacy act.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 23 Jan 26 17:58

Jan 23, 2026 -- 5:54PM, morpteh mackem wrote:


wonder what the extreme right wing lunatics think of Trumps comments ?


They'll stick their fingers in their ears and lick his arris like they promised to do.

By:
Pleasegivemeanailedontip
When: 23 Jan 26 17:59
Turns 80 years old in a few months. Usual treatment would be a degree of respect but a reduced expectation.
By:
Cider
When: 23 Jan 26 18:03
who cares about what 'extreme right wing lunatics' think about anything. It would be akin to finding out what David Paulden thinks. Irrelevant.
By:
yak hunt
When: 23 Jan 26 18:10
You know, he could have syphilis. His clearly rapidly declining mental state could be explained by that diagnosis.
By:
yak hunt
When: 23 Jan 26 18:13
Third or late stage (tertiary syphilis)
Syphilis can go on to cause serious damage to your heart, brain, bones and nervous system, years later. This damage can be life-threatening.

You could experience stroke, blindness, heart problems, dementia and loss of co-ordination.

It can still be treated at this stage, but it might not be possible to repair damage that has been done.
By:
irishone
When: 23 Jan 26 18:16
donald is spot on

uk supported usa in the war on terrorism

now they could be letting them

illegal immigrants from a terrorist base country

...and they dont even know who they are ffs

madness utter madness
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 23 Jan 26 18:32

Jan 23, 2026 -- 6:10PM, yak hunt wrote:


You know, he could have syphilis. His clearly rapidly declining mental state could be explained by that diagnosis.


It's unlikely for teenagers to carry syphilis imo

By:
breadnbutter
When: 23 Jan 26 18:35

Jan 23, 2026 -- 5:45PM, ArchStanton. wrote:


obviously what Trump has said is total rubbish as usual, and purely to belittle Europe and provoke a reaction.Even if the soldiers from other NATO nations had actually taken a back foot then who could blame them with the American forces record for friendly fire? over 20 British soldiers killed by Americans during the Iraq wars, the septics think they are all Rambo as usual, just obliterate everything in sight


Rambo story is about a country  who put their troops into a war that had very dubious causes, (French Indo China and the Catholic Church ).

The Troops come home and are hated by sections of their own people and local gov and law enforcement  treats them badly.

Mentally damaged by scars of war Rambo in the initial film is pushed into a corner and comes out fighting.
Rambo first blood has all the marks of an anti war film imo. Not sure he kills anyone innit and shows the US up badly in many departments, the trigger happy are the national gaurd and certain elements of local law enforcement.


The rest of the rambo series are harder to understand but  phurst blood is clear.
A phine movie, apart from using a 2 stroke 125 for the sound effect of an XT 250, a 4 stroke single.

As for Afghanistan war, noone on heere are qualified to suggest who done all the heavy lifting, you can't count it through kIA numbers.

For years I have heard people suggest the yanks didn't arrive in ww2 until it was over but truth is Russians and Americans made great sacrifices as did UK and many more, anyone who pays the ultimate sacrifice fighting for their country deserves the greatest respect.

But Trump never disrespected the dead, more the undead perhaps and I would not be surprised if there  was some truth in it.

NATO is a joke and designed to make it easy to prevent conflict but when it comes to it this stand off with Russia shows just how flimsy nato is.
And don't forget Russia wanted to join, I think after Gorbachov and perestrioka a big op was missed.

Trumps words and meanings are like rambo films imo, often mistaken and true meanings missed. Although it's being done by our very own propaganda machine, the BBC.

I see the  bike guy was deployed to the front today, he is bullet proof now  innit.

By:
morpteh mackem
When: 23 Jan 26 18:37

Jan 23, 2026 -- 6:16PM, irishone wrote:


donald is spot onuk supported usa in the war on terrorism now they could be letting them illegal immigrants from a terrorist base country...and they dont even know who they are ffs madness utter madness


wtf you on about , do you think his comments about British troops are a disgrace  or not ???

By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 23 Jan 26 18:41
There is a very good Cold War Steve cartoon on him today. Dunno how to load it on here but someone else might know.
By:
comingupthehill
When: 23 Jan 26 19:06
Denmark,pro rata,per population,had the 2nd most deaths in Afghanistan.

But hey hoy,it’s you’re own kind of facts and truths that matter in this day and age.
By:
comingupthehill
When: 23 Jan 26 19:16
Test the real reason about Greenland.

Tell trump,you can have the island for defence,to secure USA safety,but Denmark will still mine the minerals and oil.

See what happens then.

Like all good capitalism,they eat their own once they’ve eaten everything else.

They’ve got the Middle East oil,now want NATO’s,

Just criminal thug mafias,like Putin.

Like Boris and the tories,robbing money from their state is all they care about.

Then reign it back if sussed,till the next generation try and rob some more.

And Paul dacre and his ilk,fool you into falling for this.
By:
irishone
When: 23 Jan 26 19:34
Camp Shorabak (formerly Camp Bastion) is a former British Military airbase, located northwest of the city of Lashkargah in Helmand Province, Afghanistan. The camp was situated in a remote desert area, far from population centres.
By:
irishone
When: 23 Jan 26 19:37
As the largest British overseas base since World War II, it was a massive, 30,000-person "city in the sand" that included a major airport. It was dismantled in 2014 and handed to Afghan forces.
Key details regarding the British base in Afghanistan:
Location and Size: Built in 2006, the base was located in the desert of Helmand Province, northwest of Lashkar Gah. It grew to be roughly the size of the UK town of Reading.
Role and Infrastructure: It served as the central hub for UK (Operation Herrick) and US military operations. It featured a high-volume airport, a major trauma hospital, and extensive security with a 30ft fence, radar, and watchtowers.
Withdrawal and Legacy: In late 2014, the base was dismantled and handed over to the Afghan National Army, renamed Camp Shorabak. Following the withdrawal, the site was largely abandoned and dismantled, with many, but not all, parts falling into disuse.
Key Incidents: In September 2012, a significant Taliban attack on the base resulted in the deaths of two US Marines, damaged aircraft, and highlighted security failures.
Although Camp Bastion was the main base, other locations like Main Operating Base Lashkar Gah were also significant during the conflict.
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 23 Jan 26 19:39
Trump Interested in two things himself and the States , No need to be insulting Troops who fought alongside Americans in Afghanistan , would imagine the yank Troops would say the same

He is having a dig at NATO , no need for insulting troops that  have fought in wars  ..
By:
irishone
When: 23 Jan 26 19:41
where does that stop ?

IRA fought for years to get the British out ....no insults there then ?
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 Jan 26 19:42
Well said TON, a no class comment that should never have been made.
By:
irishone
When: 23 Jan 26 19:44
Trump is protecting american interests and the american people

its a pity the uk po!iticians didnt and still dont look after their people and not illegal immigrants from Afghanistan in particular
By:
lapsy pa
When: 23 Jan 26 20:03
His problem and $38 trillion debt but bad mouthing all and sundry isn't gonna get him much sympathy.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 23 Jan 26 20:10
Cold war steve

https://x.com/i/status/2014624584419385574

..
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 23 Jan 26 20:15
He can't say what he said Irish , its not right from any angle, Plenty of troops injured as well ,Needs to say sorry , but he wont

Starmer giving it the Big Un ,  all he wants to do is send our Army  to Ukraine with the French , no one else getting Involved

we just about have an Army as is , can't see too many rushing to recruitment offices tbh
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 23 Jan 26 20:19
Forces Piling up in the Middle east Stand by for action , But what will it Achieve ? The Tyrants need removing but yanks involved and every lunatic in surrounding countries will be heading to Iran

another endless war , Thousands dead as is
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