Trump slaps 10% tariffs on U.K. exports

Farage is a British politician, he should have an opinion.

Cider is really struggling, spamming forum for work in desperation

Hes so far up trumps arse he can nearly touch farage ankle

Farage has got nothing to do with what Starmer does or doesn't do. Which is what this thread is about (supposedly)

Farage will be impacted by 10% on UK exports to usa

Are you in competition with Casemoney to replace ronaldmcdonald
now his village has a vacancy

You can google 'Farage/Trump friendship Cider and the reasons it is now on the wane,a non rocket scientist could see why Farage now has to grab the parachute and bail for his own 'intentions' as too damage is in play with Trump but suited to a point.

The Tories are just as culpable (obviously), same as chagos, online 'safety', porous borders, two tier policing, two tire justice, the welfare industry, mass immigration, impotent policing, b e n d y cps, hollowing out of defence and a litany of other disasters.

oh yes, letting criminals out after serving a little bit of their sentence

Ha^ a change of tune, they were so bad weren't they? You surely couldn't touch a party that is made up in a large part by their disloyal members in reform now?

Farage's 'friendship' with Trump has f  e  c  k all to do with Starmer's policy decisions. Farage might have an opinion on it, but it's as irrelevant as yours.

The thread is about Starmer, and laughably his record of standing up to foreign bullies

Generally, it equates to give in to all of their asks and requirements lol. But those with TDS expect him to take on Trump

The juxtaposition of political want

Personally I admire Denmark, one of the greater European nations.
They understand immigration unlike the rest of the liberal entente

So much was made of our colonies, always the question of whether we were still worthy of ownership
We gave up some and concentrated on others and beat down those who had issues
With the help of america regarding Falklands.

So now, Denmark have to answer the question, are you up to it?

Thread is about Trump slapping tariffs on uk

You are losing the plot cider. Spamming forum not
bringing in new contacts?

Your country is being attacked with tariffs by the US and yet some are defending Trump, you are a disgrace.

Wouldn’t happen under Farage
Ta

He hates Starmer
Why wouldn’t he?
He respects the placeholder

Consequence of appeasement.

[i] The thread is about Starmer,[i]

Err, no it's about Trump applying tariffs, and
the op opines the tariffs are due to appeasement.

The tariffs are part of a larger clearance of toys
from trumps pram, concerning anybody who opposes his
colonisation of Greenland as part of his new empire.

Farage, reeling from praising Ian Watkins for £90,
seems to have suggested Trump might be in the wrong
but based on his previous love in with Trump and russian
spies, there must be some doubt as to how genuine
he may be.

Perhaps he just wouldn’t have included Farage in the scope?

If you condone acts of harm against your own country you cannot be much of a patriot; plastic at best.

“The complete and total purchase of Greenland.” Wac

Farage “under the weather” so won’t be answering questions today, or tomorrow, probably ..

All NATO nations should withdraw from the World Cup.

Just for starters.

^idiot.

2024: can Europe defend itself ALONGSIDE America?

2025: can Europe defend itself WITHOUT America?

2026: can Europe defend itself AGAINST America?

Trump will probably change his mind again tomorrow.

Or Macron will soften his cough for him anyway as he is mulling getting the 'ACI' out which is like a big anti tariff bazooka.

Trump would want to cop on with his fancy notions.

The U.S. are attacking the U.K.!  21.03.  What a fruitcake! 

Into the Anderson shelters lads!

Jan 18, 2026 -- 9:04AM, unitedbiscuits wrote:

“The complete and total purchase of Greenland.” Wac Farage “under the weather” so won’t be answering questions today, or tomorrow, probably ..

Nigel does Davos!

Despite feeling too far “under the weather” to fulfil his scheduled interviews today, Nigel Farage is heading to Davos - a meeting he used to describe as a junket for globalists - to “network.” When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

You can ask Jaguar,Mini,Astra Zenneca,Ashted, Scotch distillers amongst many others if they feel they are under 'attack',they are.
Germany's Volkeswagon estimates E5 billion worth.

Trump might be your friend but not to any British patriot or anyone with a moral compass.

That’s not what you said.  You said Trump was attacking the U.K.  once again using lying, phoney rhetoric to create some sort off effect.
You a Panorama man at all?
And I’ve never said Trump was my friend, ever, so there’s another stupid lie, presumably made for more effect.
You’re a clown.

So what? You are a reporting grass but i don't throw that at you except when you are name calling.

Agreed.  I reported a scumbag that you didn’t have the bottle or integrity to do, because if his vile behaviour on here.  He got himself banned because of it.  His vile behaviour.  I’d do it again too, unlike weedy, wimpy, woke you.  Grow a pair.

What he said had me in stitches
About two dog slides protecting Greenland
He makes good point about iron dome
Weather to believe that as main reason who knows
What I will say he’s got some bollox

@ 11.24, Don't worry about me and my balls.I have my suspicions there was an element of tag team baiting with your reporting crew concerning Captaincristy and i agreed with many of CC's posts concerning Palestine which is far removed from your claim of hamas committed genocide on Oct07th ( Ice thread,13th of Jan ,2.39pm).

You seem quite angry that i questioned that post,you think you are 'noble' and manly with hitting a report button, you are a pity.

Lapsy

Christy was breaking all the terms and conditions

He signed up saying he understood the terms and conditions, we all do that

What would you rather happen ...no control , no policing , anarchy

There has to be a point where you say enough is enough , tolerance is a problem.

You need to learn where to draw the line

Your line is wonky

Parasites
youtube.com/watch?v=cRDKXXzIuFQ

forbes.com/sites/martinadilicosa/2026/01/09/these-billionaires-bet-big-on-greenland-after-trump-took-interest/


The violent take it by force" (Matthew 11:12)
force The don to seize Greenland

Predictable

Israel committed genocide in Gaza.  In hunting down an enemy who committed unprovoked genocide, on their territory,  on Oct 7th.  Everybody knows both of these facts.  What I keep doing is reminding all the Palestinian sympathisers that without Oct 7th the Gaza assault would never have happened.  And that’s where we differ.  You and your Israeli-hating chums refuse to accept those facts.
Keep telling your lies and untruths.  “Trump is attacking the U.K.”.       
I don’t think it is just me laughing at you.

Don't think it's just lapsy pa laughing at Squealer. He is the least qualified poster to lecture on semantics. "Genocide" indeed; he renders the word meaningless. But if he prefers the word "blackmail" to "attack", roll with that.

That picture of Starmer sat in the Oval Office under a picture of an American flag over the whole region including Greenland, Canada and Venezuela is absolutely priceless.
Starmer has to cringe everywhere he goes.

But there’s a little gap where Mexico is….obviously doesn’t want that place. Why would he it has one of the worst regions on femicide on the planet, he’d have to take ownership of that, and when he rounds up convicts in his American territory all the screaming liberals emerge and try and protect them.

It’s not a real picture, dustybin.

It said in the headline it was AI ffs.

All 4 facts still true
Starmer is shamed everywhere he goes
Trump doesn’t want Mexico
And Mexico have the highest rates of femicide.
White liberal women come out to defend it.

08.08.  Priceless.

DB Starmer has done nothing wrong and everything right in this, a fellow NATO country in Denmark getting attacked by a bigger power trying to get their way with no rationale behind it,fair play to Kier and the UK.

EU trade deals with India and S. America,Canada with China the world needs to ostracize the US if it is going down its current route,unlikely alliances to be forged as the old bogeyman replaced with a new one?

He needs to be put back in his box by all(well most) but the States unifying.

Yes the world should unify under the banner of China against the great satan that is the USA.

Or they should stick their ar se up in the air and let them get shafted,you are going all Chamberlain. i never said the banner of China,it is Europe and Canada doing the heavy lifting atm.

you are going all Chamberlain.

Jesus wept.

He wept also that you actually have zero to say.

Starmer can’t get anything right
It’s debatable what we may have in common with China, but with the CCP, we have nothing….except him ofc who would love a social credit system in place, he has shown that.
He betrays our allies continually, and tries to give up our own assets on the assumption that if we keep seeding to others and ruining our own interests others might take pity on us.
He seems to want to culturally ruin this country, how can he dictate what others should or shouldn’t do…to such an extent that they are considering calling up OAP reservists because nobody younger will do anything for this country now, not the indigenous and not the new arrivals who have no association.

Oh and the intelligence is limited due to choices made by those in power in the UK
And even the UAE won’t send students because they don’t want their own citizens coming back radicalised ffs

He wept also that you actually have zero to say.

It's better than living in some naive fantasy world whereby countries of the world outside the EU, Canada and few other western countries are going to unify to ostracise the USA because they came out and threatened tarrifs on several European countries.

Okay,at least you admit you haven't an iota in having a semblance of an idea in order to put a stop to Trumps carry on and content to just leave him do what he wants.

The problem is not Trump (The likes of him could always happen). The issue is the complete consolidation of power within 1 individual in the most powerful country on the planet. In this case they have given this power to someone who likely has psychiatric issues with old age as well as lifetime sociopath traits.

Its a spectacular failing of the USA

I think the population of the world should join hands together and sing Kumbaya together to stop him.

Unfortunately there's as much chance of that happening as your far fetched ludicrous idea.

I agree with you Racingqueen on your last post.particularly the last paragraph.  See, I do on occasion.

Lapsy Pa.  18.29.  You’re doing a lot of criticising of posters about Trump without giving us your intelligence on how to stand up to/ stop his ambitions.
Care to give us anything positive?  Please.

It is a threat 2nd time around and if allowed to get away with will be used again and again.

Nothing positive at all,how can wrecking UK and European business be viewed as anything else.

The nuclear option is rightly held off ie aka the Japanese bond sell threat or EU ACI but a stand is needed imo

@ RQ your post is vindicated with this interview

A stand by who?  And of what type and construct?  That was what I asked you.

I said it was a spectacular failing of the USA. Its also a major failing of voters who in the US frequently elect geriatrics.

Diane Feinstein was basically a corpse who refused to give up power. Mitch McConnell was having live strokes on TV on a weekly basis ffs

The US president questioned whether Nato would come to the rescue of the US. "I know we'll come to (Nato's) rescue, but I just really do question whether or not they'll come to ours," he said

Has anyone asked him who is the only country in history to invoke article 5 of Nato treaty?

Its absolute 1.01 if Russia launched air strikes on Poland etc tomorrow, you wouldn't see a US boot on the ground in Eastern Europe lol

If you are getting threatened you are either going to take it and appease or fight,i do think it is being played out as whether you consider Trump as bluster but i don't and personally would align with Carneys view.
I did mention US bond sell offs,aware they are generally non government investments and require a buyer but think they may be some part of ACI's strategy, the bottom line is they and other measures will create hurt on both sides but it seems to be shifting this way judged on Wall St markets this evening.

We are not being threatened.  Where do you come up with this s h I t?

Since the 1970s, Roger Stone has worked on Republican campaigns, including those of Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Jack Kemp, Bob Dole,George W. Bush and Trump.

This is the type of person contributing to US politics across multiple US presidents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK3ePiaPU7E

look at Stone at the end. He is utterly deranged

10.46pm. Are you for real? Is the application of tariffs not a threat?

You are a complete and utter numbskull.  You used the word attack then the words fight in the same breath being threatened   but now you’ve backslid as usual into economics and commerce!  Tariffs are economic devices, not military!         

No,you are so rigid and pedantic you only can see 'attack' as one dimensional hence you used 'Anderson sheds,.

Tariffs are coercion and bullying to achieve the taking of sovereignty from an a people who want to retain their status quo.

You are an imbecile who panoramas your every comment about Trump.  An embarrassment to this forum.

Agreed.  What isn’t is ATTACKING you imbecile.

Whether you like it or not you have to accept tariffs and economic measures are a form of attack, i really have to give up on you.

They are anything but ATTACK.  Absolute drivel.

Of course weaponising tariffs is a form of attack on the Uk, as was dissing the Chagos Islands deal . Newcastle will be launching wave after wave of attacks in the next hour. You don't have to fire a bullet to mount an attack. These tedious fools.

“Weaponising tariffs”!  Oh for FFS, give it a rest.     

Trump has destroyed  Em , The Macron shades

No wonder Manny shot off , he probably thought there was another Handshake incomming

Not all down to 'tariffs' but they are certainly playing a part as thousands of jobs to go at Jaguar in the Midlands.

A hammer blow to Coventry in particular.

Lapsy is of course correct - don't listen to that loon lapsy just ignore


Weaponization of Trade: Economists and policymakers describe tariffs as an "economic weapon" used to restrict trade, punish rivals, and exert political pressure without military force.  They are often characterized as an "act of war" because they are designed to damage the economic interests of the targeted nation.
Mutually Destructive Nature: While intended to coerce, tariffs typically trigger retaliatory measures, creating a trade war that harms both the imposing and target countries.  This dynamic is likened to a stadium where everyone standing up ends up with a worse view than if they had remained seated.
Distinction from Sanctions: Unlike sanctions, which create legal barriers that can halt transactions entirely, tariffs raise the cost of imports.  This allows business to continue but at a higher price, effectively taxing consumers and businesses in both nations while disrupting global supply chains.

They aren't working for Americans nor the rest of the world,the argument they benefit in the long term is moot as they are doing zilch for US debt which with tariffs shouldn't. It(US) is heading towards a precipice,debt interest rates,petrodollar weak,and the 'poor' squeezed.
Not sure where it will end up,UK food and drink sector probably also taking a hit as also European automobiles,drinks etc.
A two way hurt and i can't figure out for what,i would take your slant CL ie 'attack on the entire system' as plausible but for what, the rich cannot lose,rule number one.

To make way for a different system lapsy

Take the last 6 years and the events that have shaken the supply chain, one after the other, starting from Covid and then pick out any natural causes - there ain't many

not many 'naturals'

Not disagreeing at all CL, the advent of AI ties in.

I do find it hard to 'see' an alternative though,it would have to be everyone and doubt that can come about.

What do you mean 'have to be everyone' - every country ?

Yes, the world is too fragmented at the moment,definitely a new era but bringing in a new system as it suits 'some' would i think be v hard.

casual list of supply chain disruption since 2020 - one after the other - probably more



Jan 2020 — Brexit: New customs border between UK and EU; ongoing friction on goods movement, especially for just-in-time manufacturers.
Jan 2020 — COVID-19 pandemic: Factory shutdowns, port congestion, labour shortages; ocean freight surged 500%; 75% of firms reported disruption.
2020–2023 — Semiconductor shortage: Auto, electronics, and appliance production halted; GM/Ford cut 1.5M vehicles in 2021; chip lead times hit 26+ weeks.
Mar 2021 — Ever Given Suez Canal blockage: Six-day chokepoint closure; ~$10B in daily trade delayed; exposed single-route fragility.
2021 — LA/Long Beach port gridlock: 70+ ships idling, ~500,000 containers stuck; revealed overreliance on single geographic chokepoints.
2021–2022 — China Zero-COVID lockdowns: Repeated factory closures in the world's largest manufacturing hub; forced urgent supplier diversification.
Feb 2022 — Russia-Ukraine war: Energy and grain supply shock; EU lost ~29% of crude and 43% of gas imports from Russia; metal/chemical factories went dark.
2022 — Sri Lanka sovereign default: Fuel and food shortages; shipping and logistics collapse; a cautionary case for how macroeconomic failure becomes a supply chain event.
Dec 2022 – 2023 — Kazakhstan CPC pipeline disruptions: Repeated shutdowns of the Caspian Pipeline Consortium cut a major oil export route to the Black Sea; exposed single-pipeline dependency.
2022–2023 — Inflation & rate hikes: Inflation peaked at 9.1%; corporate bankruptcies rose 106% (Oct 2022–Oct 2023); squeezed small suppliers.
Aug 2023 — China's first critical minerals export controls: Licensing regime on gallium and germanium; the opening move in a multi-year escalation.
Feb 6, 2023 — Turkey-Syria earthquake (7.8): Ports of Iskenderun and Mersin suspended; Ceyhan oil export terminal shut; $5.1B wiped off Turkey's food sector; recovery took ~8 months.
Mar 2023 — SVB collapse: Disrupted tech industry financing and supplier credit chains.
Dec 2023 — Red Sea / Houthi attacks: Major shipping lines rerouted via Cape of Good Hope, adding 10–14 days of transit; ongoing as of 2026.
2023–2024 — Panama Canal drought: Historic low water levels cut transit capacity; forced delays and surcharges on a critical chokepoint.
2023–2024 — EU farmer protests: Poland, France, Czech Republic, Germany; driven by Ukrainian agricultural imports, CAP regulatory burden, and falling farmgate prices.
2024 — Canada wildfires: 17M+ hectares burned; major railways and highways temporarily shut, delaying lumber and mineral shipments by ~10 days on average.
Mar 26, 2024 — Baltimore Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse: Port of Baltimore shut for ~3 months; a top-10 US port offline, forcing auto and retail shippers to reroute for months.
Jul 19, 2024 — CrowdStrike global IT outage: 8.5 million Windows devices crashed; $5B+ direct losses for Fortune 500 firms; thousands of flights grounded; ports from LA to Rotterdam temporarily shut; exposed how dependent logistics is on a single software vendor.
Jul 2024 — Dubai flash floods: Jebel Ali Port — one of the world's largest transshipment hubs — paralysed, disrupting billions in trade.
Aug 2024 — China restricts antimony exports: Shipments to the US dropped 97%; prices rose 200%; ammunition and defence supply chains hit directly.
Oct 2024 — US East & Gulf Coast port strike: 36 ports shut down; 47,000 workers affected; retail, auto, and agriculture imports delayed, with knock-on effects on global shipping schedules into 2025.
Dec 2024 — China bans gallium, germanium, antimony, superhard materials to the US: Escalated from licensing to outright prohibition; USGS estimated a $3.4B GDP hit if sustained.
2024 (recurring) — Factory fires: Top disruption category for the 6th consecutive year — 2,299 alerts in 2024 alone; a single fire at a critical component plant can cascade through entire industries.
2024 (recurring) — Protests & riots: Up 285% YoY — the largest growth of any risk category tracked; from France farmer protests to global labour unrest, directly disrupting ports, roads, and production.
2024–2025 — UK record farm closures: 6,365 agriculture, forestry and fishing businesses closed in the 12 months to mid-2025 — highest since records began in 2017; for every 10 farms closing, fewer than 6 are being replaced; net loss since Q2 2021 is ~9,925 farms.
2025 — US farm bankruptcies & structural decline: 315 Chapter 12 farm bankruptcies filed, up 46% from 2024; over 160,000 US farms closed between 2017 and 2024; US farm debt projected to hit $624.7 billion in 2026.
2025 — EU farm demographic cliff: Average EU farmer is 57; only 6.5% under 35; farm numbers fallen from 13.7M (2005) to 9.1M (2020) — roughly 1,000 farms closing per day; EU Commission formally acknowledged "a crisis situation in EU agriculture."
2023–2025 — Australia drought-driven contraction: One of the worst droughts in recorded history across SA, Victoria, and NSW; Victorian dairy contracted 62% in 25 years; 8% of Victorian dairy farmers quit in 2024 alone; 11 milk processing plants closed nationwide.
Mar 28, 2025 — Myanmar earthquake (7.7): $180M in rare earth mining equipment destroyed in Kachin State; rare earth concentrate shipments to China fell 78%; dysprosium prices jumped 32% in two weeks.
Apr 2025 — China's rare earth export controls: Seven heavy rare earth elements restricted; some US and European automakers cut utilisation or temporarily halted production due to magnet shortages.
Jun 2025 — Iran-Israel direct conflict: Escalated Middle East tensions further strained Red Sea shipping and energy markets; compounded with the Houthi crisis already ongoing.
2025 — US tariff escalation: Rapid, unpredictable tariff shifts (and the Feb 2026 Supreme Court IEEPA ruling) created front-loading, supplier reallocation, and demand timing chaos.
2025 — Typhoon season intensification: Four major typhoons hit Asian ports simultaneously; chemical, resin, and electronics shipments delayed 1–3 weeks; a growing pattern as climate change intensifies storm frequency.
Oct 2025 — China expands rare earth controls: Extended to foreign-made products containing Chinese rare earths; suspended for one year under the trade truce, but the IEA estimates $6.5 trillion/year of downstream production outside China is at risk if fully enacted.

lapsy pa06 Sep 26 17:55Joined: 29 Jan 09 | Topic/replies: 19,940 | Blogger: lapsy pa's blog
Yes, the world is too fragmented at the moment,definitely a new era but bringing in a new system as it suits 'some' would i think be v hard.


Don't think that hard, long though, and it's happened before - think 1920's onwards - the parallels are there

(AI)

The world has actually been through three distinct system resets in under 100 years, and we're now seeing the third one break:

Phase 1: Gold Standard & Trade Wars (pre-1930s → 1930s collapse)

Competitive devaluations, trade blocs, Smoot-Hawley, global trade down 66%
The system that produced the Depression
Phase 2: Bretton Woods (1944–1971) — the "completely new system"

44 nations sat down specifically to never repeat the 1930s
Fixed exchange rates: every currency pegged to the dollar, dollar pegged to gold at $35/oz
Created the IMF, World Bank, and (via GATT in 1947) a rules-based trade framework
Capital controls were normal and expected — countries managed their borders
Result: the "Golden Age of Capitalism" — 1950s–60s saw the fastest sustained trade and growth expansion in history
The system was designed with guardrails that the 1930s lacked
Phase 3: Post-1971 — the current (now fragmenting) system

Aug 15, 1971 — Nixon Shock: dollar-gold convertibility ended. The dollar became pure fiat. The gold window was never reopened.
1973: major currencies go fully floating. No more fixed pegs.
1974: the petrodollar system formalised — Saudi Arabia (and OPEC) agree to price oil in dollars in exchange for US military protection.  The dollar's anchor shifts from gold to energy + military + trust.
1976: Jamaica Accords formally ratify floating rates. Bretton Woods is officially dead.
1980s–2000s: hyperglobalisation accelerates. GATT → WTO (1995). China joins WTO (2001). Container shipping, just-in-time manufacturing, and financial deregulation create the deeply integrated global supply chain.
2008: QE era begins. Ultra-low rates, massive capital flows, commodity supercycle.
2010s: The system looks stable but is actually over-optimised for efficiency — single sourcing, lean inventory, single chokepoints.

Parallels with 1920's and 2020's is quite astounding when u get your nose in lapsy

Yep, that's I bore on about it constantly


But others just say 'nobody worries about the debt these days, just print more to deal with it'


US debt for instance has fewer buyers - they don't want paper iou's, they want gold (hard assets)


There is the possibility of one crafty plan tho - of course there is ! -  the GENIUS Act (Guiding and Establishing National Innovation for U.S. Stablecoins)

Americans badly burnt with 'trumpcoin', down 94%, i think an appetite for that kinda thing would be a NR.

The flight of gold(Dutch) from America speaking volumes as does the shoring of bonds held by the japs.

Can't see him getting out of this,no wonder Elon bailed.

Yep but stablecoins would be the cash layer within the system with 1:1 fixed rate to usd and they would legally have to be backed by something like say US bonds !! ..

More in line with a CBDC - but issued by private companies

I know, I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole but we don't get a choice in the legal medium of exchange even now do we ? We get given it

It's, of course no given and we can only posit - but you see the idea

and then you're looking at a digital currency in some form for all. A wallet that could possibly have 'attached' conditions - an algorithm - no cash - full transparency..


We can only posit

Crypto guys would love to crystalise their assets by swapping for currency before they
go t1ts up.
Letting governments carry the can would be a
lovely touch for them.

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Crypto guys would love to crystalise their assets by swapping for currency before they
go t1ts up.
Letting governments carry the can would be a
lovely touch for them.


Can't they do that any time ?

No because it would go instant t1ts up. And then
they lose out.


Ponzi needs buyers,... Selling to mug governments would get them out at top value, then it goes t1ts up and not their fault...





Too many reporters on the forum, or ex posters, who knows, but they must report everything

The comments about the comments being removed have ...... been removed

Bizarre.

Always the leftie loons who need to silence people because their arguments don't hold up in open debate. If you look at history the people doing that were never the good guys.

Ha,some list of 'casual disruptions to supply chains'!

Read that the UK (and Europe) are way down on gas storage (Centrica report) and i think you may well be adding this to that list next year.
Cold winter,low stock, charge what you like,that's the cynic in me but the parameters look set to me. (always open to correction on these topics)