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By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 21 Mar 25 19:03
Has Dale Vince not flapped his arms enough?
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 21 Mar 25 19:08
The truth is this type of thing could end in Disater , bro in Law lives two miles from LHX , said the amount of planes holding  was unreal at one stage
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 21 Mar 25 19:13
A source from the airport says back-up generators did spring into action, but they weren't enough to power the whole airport - an air industry boss says it leaves "serious questions"

No mention of NET ZERO from the Nations favourite news Source
By:
Cider
When: 21 Mar 25 19:15
People were talking about it this morning, back up was definitely switched to nut zero. Which is why it failed, obs.
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 21 Mar 25 19:17
And then

On backup supplies, which have been questioned today, he says Heathrow has three substations with a back-up transformer, but one of these was also broken.

we are getting there Perhaps Next week after aunty verifies everything ? we might know the Truth
By:
Cider
When: 21 Mar 25 19:17
All the legacy broadcast media will assist in the cover up, the legacy broadcasters and the nuts in Labour and Tories. Possibly one of the papers will run with it
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 21 Mar 25 19:20
Perhaps the Russians Hacked the Nut Zero system , Edy should be on shortly with an Update ?
By:
edy
When: 21 Mar 25 19:40
Are we sure backup solutions at airports, be it diesel or woodship burning, are otherwise designed to provide enough power to run an entire airport to function normally?

I have some doubts....
By:
edy
When: 21 Mar 25 19:42
Especially if we are talking about managing to survive more than minimal power outages for a very short time.
By:
Cider
When: 21 Mar 25 19:44
should an airport be able to function in a power cut.

what do you think ?
By:
Cider
When: 21 Mar 25 19:46
not talking about buying your pick n mix, toblerone or pint of Grolsch. but still have planes land and take off
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 21 Mar 25 19:47
I would expect that airports have a backup.
By:
edy
When: 21 Mar 25 19:49
It should be able to survive short outages for sure. It should also be able to keep lights on for e.g. planes to be able to land.

I was merely wondering if planning at airports really normally provides for a scenario where power is completely cut and diesel generators or woodchip burners have to provide enough power for a long time to run the entire friggin' airport. That's a lot of generators and a lot of fuel for something that....happens once a century?
By:
edy
When: 21 Mar 25 19:52
To quote The Daily Telegraph:

In its net zero plan, published in 2022, Heathrow said: “Stand-by generators currently operate using diesel as they need an independent power source to maintain resilient operations. They are used predominantly as back-up power for airfield ground lighting.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/21/fire-rages-electrical-substation-hayes/

So...yeah....are we absolutely certain that airports usually have the large diesel capacities for long-time complete function, or near complete function, or are we just playing ideological bad faith stuff here because we don't like net zero?
By:
Cider
When: 21 Mar 25 19:54
obviously yes. have you seen the docu series Chernobyl? if nuclear power stations suffer a power cut, they still need to operate basic functions or else there's nuclear meltdown. critical infrastructure needs to be able to maintain basic operation in a crisis.
By:
edy
When: 21 Mar 25 19:54
A nuclear power station that runs danger of contaminating the entire area for decades to come is a bit of a difference here.
By:
edy
When: 21 Mar 25 19:55
critical infrastructure needs to be able to maintain basic operation in a crisis.

...Like lights.....
By:
edy
When: 21 Mar 25 19:56
For an airport.
By:
Cider
When: 21 Mar 25 19:56
it can be done, and is done. power cuts aren't new. I have never heard of a major airport completely shutting down due a local power cut. like ever, in 40 years
By:
edy
When: 21 Mar 25 20:01
...but is that because all the airports have massive generator capacities, of course fueled with diesel instead of woodchips, or because they were able to e.g. reroute electricity as they were better connected to the national grid?
By:
Cider
When: 21 Mar 25 20:03
I would assume back up is tailored to the local infrastructure. The clue is in the name, they were claiming this morning that the back up was affected by the fire. Which is BS.
By:
edy
When: 21 Mar 25 20:15
Backup can be many things. I can feel good about installing a battery in my Raspberry Pi to spare it from short outages of power. It will make my Pi survive the vast majority of cases. It will not have my Pi survive a day without electricity from the plug.

Do I nonetheless have a solution that I can rightly call a backup power plan? Absolutely I can.

I quoted from the Daily Telegraph above, which in turn quoted from some guideline on what the then current diesel generators provided for. That says they are predominantly there for ground lighting. Maybe in the next days we will find out if the diesel generators of old would have been able to keep this really big airport running somewhat normally or if we are just playing silly ideological games here regarding the backup system now burning wood instead of diesel.
By:
edy
When: 21 Mar 25 20:17
I'm pretty sure whatever turns out to be the case, most people who now go on about the backup generators being super bad net zero don't really know either as of now and are indeed just out to play little ideological games from a base of very little actual knowledge.
By:
Cider
When: 21 Mar 25 20:17
Find out from whom. The zealots in the government Laugh
By:
edy
When: 21 Mar 25 20:18
From hard working independent and trustworthy journalists of the non-legacy media.
By:
Cider
When: 21 Mar 25 20:19
It will be shut down, just like anything that goes against the new religion.
By:
edy
When: 21 Mar 25 20:19
What is being shut down due to going against the new religion that you feel should not be shut down?
By:
edy
When: 21 Mar 25 20:20
Other than the upcoming cover up regarding the diesel generators at Heathrow.
By:
Vubiant
When: 21 Mar 25 21:41
These days/nights you can't have a decent slash in a shop doorway without a battery of cameras up your ass.
Hard to believe any unauthorised presence around this vital piece of kit could go undetected.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 22 Mar 25 10:44
It would appear you are wrong there.

Last weekend there were rivers of Geordie pish enveloping the streets of London like torrents.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 22 Mar 25 10:46

Cider 21 Mar 25 18:17

All the legacy broadcast media will assist in the cover up, the legacy broadcasters and the nuts in Labour and Tories. Possibly one of the papers will run with it


Have you a new allegiance cider?
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 22 Mar 25 18:54
https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/other/sky-news-and-the-guardian-are-mocked-mercilessly/ar-AA1Boggp

Some of the Guardian subsribers on here might have choked on their soy lattes at the time.

Can just imagine them wandering around trying to find the nearest needle to make them feel safe again.
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