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Keir Starmer declares war on benefit claimants.

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By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Nov 24 09:41
Because throwing a baby out on the street, or forcing it to live in a workhouse is something even a nazi would baulk at. Come on lad, it's not hard.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 29 Nov 24 09:43
More importantly PP tell me why hard working people are the ones struggling

And yes also. Tax evasion would reap more than persuing benefit fraud. We should persue both
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Nov 24 09:46
Again, blame the rich for the struggles of you and me. But turning your fire on young mums is exactly what the rich want you to do. Drawing some kind of weird equivalence between businesses and billionaires not paying their fair share, and a young girl trying to do her best for her baby.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 29 Nov 24 09:49
Not turning it on young mums PP

You don’t get it

Nanny and dude have no problem with white people mugging us off but object to foreigners doing it

I am opposed to all of them mugging us off. I do not discriminate against people mugging me off.

Let’s get after the tax evaders too!
By:
truehoncho
When: 29 Nov 24 09:50
Minister Louise Haigh quits after fraud offence revealed. - If this lot weren't politicians they'd be screwing the system for all they could get. Clothes, houses, phones, holidays, pop concert tickets. These parasites are way past hypocrites, it's almost psychotic.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 29 Nov 24 09:53
Agreed!

At least she has gone unlike dirty Tories
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 29 Nov 24 09:53
Agreed!

At least she has gone unlike dirty Tories
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Nov 24 09:53
Again though, tax evaders come in different shapes and sizes. You're giving equivalence to a young mum (not sure what crime you think she's committed btw) to the likes of Dyson or Starbucks etc? Right wing politicians would be lapping up comments like that. Yeah, great. Turn your fire on the poor and the wretched. On the young, the migrants, the abused. They're just the same as the billionaires employing their accountants and lawyers.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 29 Nov 24 10:00
Not sure what Dyson has ding wrong but Starbucks, Nero, Amazon, Microsoft et al

Go after them TOO
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Nov 24 10:05
ok, you're cool with the equivalence then.



great
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 29 Nov 24 10:25
I am not against people

I am FOR hard working honest people

I also believe in the Welfare State from the cradle to the grave

I am opposed to free loaders
By:
lapsy pa
When: 29 Nov 24 10:50
With respect to you both (WD and PP), i think historically there is some justification in the 'keeping the legs closed' comment, saying that as even going back to the 80's it was a wheeze for young wans to get up the duff and get a council flat. Not sure how it applies today as very little availability particulary in 'better' areas. I can 'get' that comment.
Not being Mr Diplomatic but the argument going after the bottom rung and a free run for the rich is very fair too, really shouldn't be a problem at all but when times get tough there is just the one target and correct that the so called rich seems to always avoid paying more.
By:
saddo
When: 29 Nov 24 11:14
wd out of his depth, empty vessels...........
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 29 Nov 24 11:17
The rich always get away with it.  They even enlist the morons of the three word slogan brigade to fight their battles

Why would any working person with kids support the farmers in not having to pay inheritance tax?

Lapsy, it was an easy example to use and yes a cheap shot. My point is we are being ripped off. By many
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 29 Nov 24 11:19
Oh saddo

Say something about black peoples or Muslims

It’s the weekend!

In fact just try and say something that is not pathetic and stupid. I challenge you.
By:
saddo
When: 29 Nov 24 11:23
“He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know.”
You never stfu Laugh
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 29 Nov 24 11:41
On your case saddo

“It is better to stay silent and let people think you are an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”

Everyone on here knows you are not the smartest and can barely conceal your filthy racial prejudice and Islamaphobia
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Nov 24 13:22
lapsy - I don't think it applies today. There's a mum who lived two doors from my mum who was kicked out of her private rented house last year. Her kids are now living with grandma while she's in a grubby hotel five miles away in town. Very very grim really.


And the keep your legs shut line is also one of those weird things that can only apply to women and never to men. When young men face the same responsibilities you'd soon see a change, but we're still quick to villainise women's actions while young men get a pat on the back and called a jack the lad.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 29 Nov 24 13:32
I did suspect as much PP in regards to nowadays,it was rife when there was housing available.

I have every sympathy with young people these days,daunting won't do it justice and for many it is simply impossible. No quick fix and a radical overhaul needed as the so called system is losing a wheel. There is no incentive if your low paid job is basically going towards a landlord.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Nov 24 13:40
It's all about carrot and stick for me. Politicians can only ever talk about the stick. But what is the incentive really? The price of childcare in this country is ridiculous. And then you add on the price of housing etc. If you're at home bonding with your baby, is it worth your while going out to a crappy min wage job, when you know that after childcare and transport you're maybe £10 a week better off than being at home? Is £10 the right price for not spending those hours with your child? Politicians just refuse to even see that argument but that's the real type of question people are asking. That's why people are living with their parents into their thirties and why the birth rate has dropped off a cliff. Till the decision makers see and understand what the population are living every day they'll never get it and will never fix it.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 29 Nov 24 13:45
Great post PP.^
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 29 Nov 24 15:21
PP

I would get every pregnant girl who wants FREE accommodation the next 18 years to name the father so he can be DNA’s and made to contribute to his child’s care. If she can’t tell who the father is at least provide a list of say 5 names and start there

The father’s should pay! Not us the tax payer!
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 29 Nov 24 15:33
Such a weird impulse to treat young pregnant women like criminals. Rather odd.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 29 Nov 24 15:36
Hardly

Nobody is stopping them.

Why should they get a free flat for 18 years?

Shouldn’t the child’s father contribute?

Why should we be paying?
By:
MALAY
When: 29 Nov 24 16:01
the father will need to contribute, most of them stay with their parents anyway, the grandparents will be delighted, the mum can get out and enjoy herself again, hopefully being a bit more careful Excited
By:
thegiggilo
When: 01 Dec 24 00:28
Prem Sikka
@premnsikka
The mortgage payments of  4.4m households to rise.

£500-a-month increases for the mortgages of about 420,000 households.

Will also increase rents.

Banks have cut interest paid to savers.

Profiteering but no regulator will act.



A country in tatters..
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 01 Dec 24 09:12
Reeves and Starmer need to stop fcuking around ad make the rich pay their fair share.
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