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Petition to call a General Election
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...but yeah, the British should seek to turn their country in a federal republic with proportional representation. So much cooler.
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So 2 million now,over 6 million signed a petition regarding brexit and nothing done, won't the same as this apply in that it was the will of the people?
You are kidding yourselves if you thought there were going to be no new measures in getting more for the exchequer. Good point re food security,totally agree, and more so as now outside the bloc. |
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Nov 25, 2024 -- 3:57PM, the old nanny ;-) wrote:
Mark my Words WD , Poverty like we have never seen in our Generation Beckons , Give it 6 months Starmer in Talks to send our troops to the Ukraine , My advice to him would be to keep them here Because he may well need them for homeland security , and to keep him in power George Galloway's prediction that if Starmer won the GE, there would be British troops involved in a war within six months could well be right. |
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Doubt it
Pretty sure we cannot send troops anywhere at the moment |
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6 million sign a petition and they simply say on your bike
3 million want another election, they've got 100s of 1000s protesting this government on the streets of London, from multiple sides, nah on your bike There's only one way left sadly |
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So 2 million now,over 6 million signed a petition regarding brexit and nothing done, won't the same as this apply in that it was the will of the people?
I believe the current Labour Government have gone back on the promises they laid out in the lead up to the last election. The EU petition was to reverse a mandate given by the populace, ie stop what was being voted for being implemented. The guy who set up this petition is claiming Labour reneged on all the promises they used, ie didn't implement what they ran on. |
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Have labour gone back on their manifesto promises?
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So the analogy would have been a petition to implement Brexit, because the politicians were trying to renege on it.
People wouldn't be so angry is Labour didn't just make up a lot of fiction and then make the changes they wanted once gaining power, but knew people wouldn't vote for. |
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Have labour gone back on their manifesto promises?
Obviously. Just one example, the farmers said he spent an hour promising them he wouldn't punish them with inheritance tax just before the election. First fiscal event, he punishes them with inheritance taxes. |
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^ Not sure that was in the manifesto
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Who mentioned a manifesto? They lied through their teeth in the run up to the election. I'll quote his petition again:
I believe the current Labour Government have gone back on the promises they laid out in the lead up to the last election. |
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The only correlation with the EU petition is the unusually high number of signatories.
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I mentioned it because it is all that matters,if they break those pledges they are cooked,they haven't and the petition by Farage and the loons is a farce.
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I'm sure they said they wouldn't raise NI in the manifesto.
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Over 2.3 million so far
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You can make sure,google 'Change.labour election manifesto'
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Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer · 11h Spiking will be made a criminal offence. Spiking is already a criminal offence Sections 22, 23 and 24 of the Offences Against the Persons Act 1861 cover drink spiking  The former Director of Public Prosecutions |
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The whole lot of em are Bumbling Oafs .. I am beginning to doubt any of them are the full shilling
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What actual Qualifications are needed to be come the DPP ?
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Are you trying to tell me that before your big announcement it was perfectly legal to drug somebody in a bar without them knowing? wow how long have you spent on this ,,,
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They're so ridiculous
He was apparently asked what his favourite Xmas movie was and couldn't answer His favourite dish is ham pasta... He's dull as dishwater, it's a wonder his favourite color isn't battleship grey |
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Pathetic
It's already a criminal offence and he posts that , bloke should feck off Reply to 7:32 post |
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Crazy stuff from the former DPP Sont
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Hey Sontaran, what's your favourite Christmas movie other than Die Hard?
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1.Bad Santa (Billie Bob Thornton)
2. Back To The Future trilogy (for me it's an Xmas movie set) 3. Home Alone 1 and 2 4. Deck The Halls (de vito) 5. Bad Santa 2 Bad Santa gets my vote for number, Billy Bob Thornton must have actually spent the whole shoot drunk because it was all too natural |
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Cool, thanks! I don't think I've ever seen the Bad Santa movies and Deck the Halls. I'll try to remember and probably watch one of them this Christmas time. Much appreciated!
If you count Back to the Future as christmas movies, I'd have Back to the Future 3 as my favourite. Otherwise probably Gremlins. Definitely need to watch Nightmare Before Christmas one day. |
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Back To The Future 3 weirdly comes across as the most wintery of the 3 , even if its set mainly in the old West
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The original Gremlins, awesome
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The home secretary told female guests at a Downing Street reception that "a little bit of Rohypnol" in his wife's drink was "not really illegal if it's only a little bit".
Ben Bloch Political reporter @realBenBloch Tuesday 2 January 2024 10:13, UK Home Secretary James Cleverly has made a personal apology for a date rape joke and admitted it "potentially distracted" from the government's work to tackle drink spiking. Just before Christmas, it emerged the home secretary had made what his spokesperson described as an "ironic joke" at a Downing Street reception about putting a date rape drug in his wife's drink, hours after the Home Office announced plans to crack down on spiking. Mr Cleverly told female guests "a little bit of Rohypnol in her drink every night" was "not really illegal if it's only a little bit", the Sunday Mirror reported. The cabinet minister also laughed that the secret to a long marriage was ensuring your spouse was "someone who is always mildly sedated so she can never realise there are better men out there". Tories talking about clamping down on spiking, whilst 'aving a laff But adults now taking over |
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The police are operationally independent, spiking drinks is already illegal. What exactly are the 'adult' politicians going to tangibly do (aside from signalling virtue). Ask the cops to stop monitoring social media from their sofas?
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Make it a prescribed crime rather than fit it into some old law
Why do you think it is so difficult to bring a prosecution? |
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Why did cleverley want to tighten law?
He defended his record, noting he was "the first home secretary to put forward legislation to toughen our ability to deal with spiking". "My first visit as home secretary was to an investigation team investigating violence against women and girls," he said. "When I was foreign secretary, I set a target that 80% of our aid has to go demonstrably have a positive effect for women and girls." He also said his wife, Susie, was "very honest in terms of her feedback" when the story emerged. At least cleverly tried, despite the law you cite... |
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Why do you think it is so difficult to bring a prosecution?
Prosecutions are low for almost all crimes. For spiking I should think it's pretty obvious. Hard to identify it actually happened, hard to prove intent, even harder to identify the perp, beyond reasonable doubt. The political class don't want to send people to prison anyway. So if the authorities put all the resources needed to prove an individual spiked another's drink for nefarious reasons, and all the CPI and court resources were deployed in a trial, and it got to court, and a guilty verdict, they'd probably get let off (suspended sentence). We don't even send proven paedos to prison for the first time they got caught out. |
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Making it a crime will make prosecution so much easier
if they frame the law correctly, which appears to be a problem, which is why successive governments have wanted better legislation to allow prosecutions to proceed. |
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Boiler and EV Plans a Disaster , Sunak of course realised this over a year ago , Not Starmer and his Raving lunatic sidekick , EV sales down infact most EVs being sold at a massive discount ,because if the firms dont get rid they face fines
Many manufactures saying its unworkable ,it could force the car makers to reduce their presence in the UK Nissan, which builds EVs at its plant in Sunderland, has said the rules are "undermining the business case for manufacturing cars in the UK, and the viability of thousands of jobs and billions of pounds in investment". Last week, its rival Ford announced it will cut 800 jobs in the UK over the next three years. It said this was partly because of weaker demand for EVs. Clueless Chancers , the case of Milliband add the Word Derranged |
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Won't someone think of the multi-billion pound business interests?
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It is already a crime.
Rape is a crime. Rape convictions are low as it's very difficult to prove in many circumstances. We don't often prosecute crimes that are easy to prove. And those that do go to court (eg carrying a knife), invariably get let off. A suspected serial rapist who enjoyed years of freedom after first being arrested has been filmed boasting about having sex with 4,000 men. Mohammed Altaher, 38, was accused of violently attacking two victims when he was released after the Crown Prosecution Service originally decided not to charge him. |