Nottingham Murderer..Why was he hear.?

Lot of people suffer with Mental Illness thankfully they don't go round running people over

Strange that someone who is 'insane' has the capability to drive a vehicle

it's not difficult and i don't want to sound facetious but
he didn't drive it very well.

There’s no answer we are allowing many very dangerous people into the country year after year

Don’t listen to the news or read about these cases anymore

What was that film where the US police adopted a hobby of dispensing proper justice after they finished official work? You only have to look at the perps photo to see what he is. The poor victims are just as dead whether the perp s mentally ill or not. The yanks have the right idea. The guy dying today is going by experimental gas execution as they couldn't find a vein last time.The attitude is- if he suffers, TOUGH.

King of New York, Magnum Force?
both had rogue cops.
Copland also.

Many thanks. I know there were gangs of cops somewhere in South America clearing out the trash. In London, when the Krays were in charge, they killed their peers but little old grannies could walk down the road at night safely.

We don't have a police force, we have a woke police service , woke judges, woke Barristers a woke legal system and a woke Civil services.
The police recruit on the basis of Race, Colour, Gender & religion and not whether or not they'll make good hard coppers.
We've been let down by successive Governments, and if we change this one, we get exactly the same for the next 4 years with Sir Kier.
Only the British public can change it now.

my grandpa's best pal was chief super in strathclyde cid
in the 60's/70's.
he admitted they managed organised crime. they could not
stop it, they had neither the power or the manpower.

it was better the devil you know. they would hit anyone
muscling in hard leaving the coast clear for the existing
established crime gangs.

it isn't right but it is reality. if they crossed an undefined
boundary then someone was getting nicked but generally it kept
the peace.

obviously it kicked off sometimes and then bodies were
needed to go to jail and take the wrap. never the top guys tho.
Mind you they did occasionally get murdered and that wasn't ideal.

anyhow my point was he also said they would hand out "jock justice"
(his words) on a regular basis. they let certain things go but you didn't
push yer luck. he always said "we were the scariest gang in Glasgow by far."

Yikes!

He was also a 6ft 6" highlander, which helped for intimidation purposes.

I wonder how far it'll have to go before vigilantes along the lines of the Charles  Bronson's Death Wish films start operating. Currently with crime detection rates & availability of weapons it can't be too long.

By the way, the Glasgow Smile was well known to have originated in the 1920s or 30s.

plenty cities did the same. it was a real message for a long time. even now you see "that scar"
...quite chilling.

the 20's & 30's were mad in many cities in the uk. huge numbers of trained killers trying to
integrate into society. coming from regiments where your pals were everything, confidents & life
savers. No wonder gangs flourished on the back of it.

The original MC's in the USA came out of air force squadrons who were demobbed but wanted to stay together.

I brought back the thread from summer last year. We all knew how this was going to pan out, once every effort was being made by the authorities to quash the story. Immigrant, check. 'BAME', check. 'Mental health issues' check. 'Mistakes made, lessons learned' check. Sympathetic CPS and judiciary, check.

Cider • June 13, 2023 4:14 PM BST
Typically, the information being completely suppressed is enough to have a fair idea. Scratching around for excuses that apologists can cling to.

Good to see the band of Usual Suspects is dwindling with their pathetic vile racism at the forefront of their their thoughts that is if they can think for themselves.

Here is another fine example of the thought process of no doubt a “ loyal “ and “ patriotic “ …. “ Englishman”

Surely,  if some legal firm  defended him to stay here, they should be bought to account.
Personally , i'd put him in a sack and set light to it.
Another reason to bring back capital punishment

Someone who knows nothing about our laws, our culture, our beliefs. He ought to join the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as their values seem more aligned to his.

lol, perfect timing. Seek an apologist, ye shall find.

I am not apologising for anything.

racism is the authorities, judiciary and media doing everything they can to protect a brutal murderer for as long as they can, as they happen to be a 'diverse' immigrant.

you might not be a mathematician, wd. but what do you think the true odds are of a random man in England being a 'BAME' immigrant ? tbf, being knife wielding maniac narrows it down somewhat.

You voted for these Clowns for the last 13 years

The Party of Law and Order

The Party of Business

The Party of Protect Our Borders

How is it going?

Here is another 3 word slogan gif you gullible fools to hang in to

Bring Doris Back!

so true whispering. zero understanding of our justice system.
hang em high

they lose their minds over fake reports of sharia law
but actually want something similar or more extreme.
the uk taliban in full effect.
they have so much more in commo9n with them than they realise.

We have so many problems in our society. There are some vile people taking advantage of the ignorance and stupidity of a certain section of society. These people have seen what Chump has done in Amrika. If you lie without hesitation there are gullible fools who believe you and they are practising that here.

Protect Our Borders

Get Brexit Dun

The Party of Law and Order

Meanwhile they enrich their friends like Michelle Mone and her CHILDREN who have trousered £29 MILLION of tax payer money in an Offshore Trust

It’s the immigrunts wot dun it!

Each country have their own basket of deplorables. Look at what Modi is doing in India. Look at what is hating Chinaaaaa

Our own Taliban are the Usual Suspects here. They want their own Sharia Law like you have said!

Jan 25, 2024 -- 4:03PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:

Good to see the band of Usual Suspects is dwindling with their pathetic vile racism at the forefront of their their thoughts that is if they can think for themselves.Here is another fine example of the thought process of no doubt a “ loyal “ and “ patriotic “ …. “ Englishman”Surely,

You may think you know me WD But you certainly don't.
Englishman ? Yes
Laws ? Yes.
A vile racist ? that's a very lazy reply , its  like someone who's in a minority and plays the race card every time he can't justify his defence for the
Hatred he has for this country. But being an apologist must help your mental state

I am not apologising gif anything

I agree with Barnaby Webbers mother.

I am just pointing out people like you and the Usual Suspects have more in common with the Taliban but you will not take our freedoms or install your own sick version of Sharia Law.

This will end like it did in 1936 with the Fascists being beaten off our streets by ordinary people who are the true patriots.

First they came for the Socialists ….

Let them come because in this country we value freedom and will fight for it

I am not apologising gif anything

I agree with Barnaby Webbers mother.

I am just pointing out people like you and the Usual Suspects have more in common with the Taliban but you will not take our freedoms or install your own sick version of Sharia Law.

This will end like it did in 1936 with the Fascists being beaten off our streets by ordinary people who are the true patriots.

First they came for the Socialists ….

Let them come because in this country we value freedom and will fight for it

I am not apologising gif anything

I agree with Barnaby Webbers mother.

I am just pointing out people like you and the Usual Suspects have more in common with the Taliban but you will not take our freedoms or install your own sick version of Sharia Law.

This will end like it did in 1936 with the Fascists being beaten off our streets by ordinary people who are the true patriots.

First they came for the Socialists ….

Let them come because in this country we value freedom and will fight for it

by ordinary people who are the true patriots.

Here’s another

He will not get beaten off the streets because he is too scared to go out and live life,  instead he looks out for  killings and mass murders reported on the internet then sets up topics on the Betfair Forum to vent his anonymous fury.

Just look at how many threads he has set up after murder or an atrocity has taken place. Why is it nearly always him?

Yoh may well laugh casemoney

Have you ever had a girlfriend

Do you live with your mother

Do you buy Gunsnammo magazine

Did tiger tear the wings of dragonflies as a child?

…. Just saying

I got your number!

Must be the Old Safe Streets Mob WD ?

I had a horse in Ireland
A geyser nicked it with its passport out of my backroom
I checked out local horse traders
Sure enough he had sold it on
I took the proof to the gards
Sure enough a couple of years down the line
A gard knocked at the door came in, sat in my front room and explained
That the geyser who nicked it was the local drug supplier
He collected cannabis every Thursday from galway and brought it back to the village for himself and sold it round the pubs
They were reluctant to prosecute him because it was better the devil ....and they didn't want anyone else moving in if he was put away

Had attacked two Chaps in a warehouse where he worked 2 weeks Previous , Nowt Done

Had also previously attacked a Police officer and was Tazered

Still allowed to Roam the streets

Horrible vile individual, to be honest hes better put down even for his own sake. I doubt anybody can help him in mental wards and I don't think medical staff would like to engage either.

He was a paranoid schizo wasn't he? Big questions of the police and social services to let him go free after previous violent episodes as well as literally begging for help.

sure i don't know enough about it but if was him i'd rather be dead.

Yes PP, a condition that never goes away, would have to think if he wasn't getting meds a big red flag should have been there.
Terrible for those poor people and their families.

The justice system in Alabama had the right idea last night.

The justice system in Alabama had the right idea last night.

38 years late

Agreed, but it did get it right last night!

Spoken like a good Christian. No wonder the country is falling apart as people shred their Christian values.

Yes Good old Alabama . A Great way to make sure they never hurt innocent people again.
......Now, i'll wait for the Gullible apologist to rage again..

I'm not a Christian let alone a true Christian Although I do believe in turning the other cheek. If they hit that, I'll eliminate. If the country had been true Christian in the 1940s we'd all be speaking German now. I'm an Epicurean.

The justice system in Alabama had the right idea last night.



Yep a bit of Nitrogen

If at first you don't succeed Try Try again

I wonder if thought of his Christian Values WD , when he battered and stabbed a woman to Death for $800

Mr Casemoney- something I learned in life: If one is determined to do something & there is a way of doing it, one should keep trying to find it.

Why was he hear?

1. Because he had ears.
Next stupid question

Pictured: Man who caused death of M6 highways worker after driving stolen car at 127mph

This is the man who drove at speeds of up to 127mph before crashing into a stationary vehicle on the M6 and killed the highways worker inside.

By Eleanor Lawson
Published Oct 25, 2023

Denis Balaz has been jailed for more than nine years for causing the death of Kevin Jarvis.

Denis Balaz, aged 29, has been jailed for more than nine years last Friday after he admitted causing the death of traffic management officer Kevin Jarvis by dangerous driving.

The fatal crash happened shortly after 5am on the northbound carriageway between junctions 14 and 15 of the M6 on February 26 of last year.

Balaz was driving at speeds exceeding 120mph in a black Audi A8 that had been stolen at knifepoint in Birmingham before careering through cones and smashing into the works Ford Focus of Mr Jarvis, which was displaying amber warning beacons.

Transport Safety Control Officer, Kevin Jarvis, aged 57 from Cannock, was sat in the parked car on an access slip road at Yarnfield at the time. He sadly died at the scene.

Balaz also pleaded guilty to causing death by dangerous driving, driving a car other than in accordance with a licence, driving with no insurance, theft and wounding with intent. The latter two offences are not connected to the death of Mr Jarvis.

He was also sentenced to three and a half years for the wounding and was handed an extended driving ban of 14 years and three months.

Mr Jarvis, originally from Southampton, had been celebrating a family wedding just hours before the accident.


His wife, Julie, described him as her "husband, best friend, my support in every way, a wonderful step-dad and grandad and friend to all, there are no words to describe the pain of losing him."

Sentencing him at Stafford Crown Court, Judge John Edwards told Balaz that his victim "had many happy years ahead of him and was looking forward to many years of contented retirement with his wife"

He added: "The senseless decision you made to steal and then drive a high-powered vehicle at such intense speed compounds your criminality. You were driving without authority, a licence or insurance."

PC James Addison, from the serious collision investigation unit, said the sentence "sentence brings to an end what has been a long process for justice for the family of Kevin".

"Balaz made the decision to stab the owner of the car before driving away in it," he continued.

"He had every opportunity to stop the vehicle but instead chose to drive at dangerous speeds before swerving into a coned off area of the motorway where Kevin’s car was parked with its warning beacons lit.

"That decision cost a loving husband and father his life. No sentence will ever be sufficient for the family but I hope that Balaz understands that his actions have consequences, in this case tragic ones."

Balaz, a Slovakian national of no fixed address, is liable for automatic deportation due to the length of his prison sentence

Jesus. Why the smiley after the wife's comment about her dead husband?

It raises multiple more pertinent questions than that. Not ones I have the answer to, tbf.

Eagerly awaits your posts about british criminals...


And more weird smileys after victim statements

'is liable for automatic deportation due to the length of his prison sentence'

I expect the smiley pertained to that, as that is clearly the sentence it's attached to.
All the grooming rapists are still here a decade after release.
Wokie lawyers, who care nothing for the safety of the public, keep stopping deportation, it never happens.

Exactly, not hard to work out. I pressed the button and the text didn't appear, so pressed it again. For some reason the first one got pace in the middle of the copy, as it was quite long I didn't notice. The odds of him actually being deported are likely to be remote.

Likely to be nil.

Am I the only one seeing the smiley half waty up after the wife's statement about her husband? apols if so.

All the grooming rapists are still here a decade after release.

Complete rubbish.
We are back to the racist bilge again. Come on betfair clean up your act. The spreading of race hate is illegal and your allowing racists to use your forum to spread racial hatred is causing you reputational damage.

And the most famous grooming rapist is now due his victim millions of dollars for compounding his sexual abuse with defamation.

Jan 28, 2024 -- 10:13AM, cryoftruth wrote:

All the grooming rapists are still here a decade after release.Complete rubbish.We are back to the racist bilge again. Come on betfair clean up your act. The spreading of race hate is illegal and your allowing racists to use your forum to spread racial hatred is causing you reputational damage.

You have no answer COT, So you play the race card, AGAIN, and ask Betfair to take the post down as you are in the 1% of people who want these parasites to stay here.
I've noticed it many times with yourself and WD

And remind me again, how much in legal aid have we had to pay for them to remain.?
Cryoftruth or Whispering might know. or maybe they're on there side.

No full in Inquiry into the Notts Killer and why he was not charged with Murder ?

Christ, wHat's wiTh the rAndom capItals? Make it stop!

FooK OrF

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Are you jealous he can play with Lego case?

Your paying for it Pal . Presuming you work that is

He has had plenty of Lego Fun , had been sectioned 4 times Previously , How was this man roaming the streets ?

You have no answer COT

The answer to people who use the betfair forum to continually spread racial and religious hatred is to call it out.

Now of course the rabid extreme hate merchants don’t like being confronted. Bullying racists never do.

had been sectioned 4 times Previously , How was this man roaming the streets ?

After 14 years of Tory sleaze greed and corruption the cuts in the NHS and in mental health services mean that dangerous mentally ill people are in the community with inadequate treatment and support.

So instead of whining on about your hatred of anyone not pure white like a bigot, why not protest that the government stops bunging our sosh to their chums and boosts NHS soeanding instead.

The forum's very own Violet Elizabeth Bott ^

Jan 30, 2024 -- 10:13AM, cryoftruth wrote:

You have no answer COTThe answer to people who use the betfair forum to continually spread racial and religious hatred is to call it out.Now of course the rabid extreme hate merchants don’t like being confronted. Bullying racists never do.

The problem with you COT,Is that you get confused between Racists and Realists, HTH

Jan 30, 2024 -- 10:16AM, cryoftruth wrote:

had been sectioned 4 times Previously , How was this man roaming the streets ?After 14 years of Tory sleaze greed and corruption the cuts in the NHS and in mental health services mean that dangerous mentally ill people are in the community with inadequate treatment and support.So instead of whining on about your hatred of anyone not pure white like a bigot, why not protest that the government stops bunging our sosh to their chums and boosts NHS soeanding instead.

You can't expect this Govt or Labour to put illegal Murderers, Rapists and Terrorists in 5* Hotels AND  Plough billions into the NHS and Mental health services.
Something has to give.

Whats Racial about a Bloke being Sectioned 4 Times and asking why he was released to Kill ?

COT HE WAS SECTIONED 4 TIMES , THE PROBLEM IS NOT WITH FUNDING ,WHY WAS HE RELEASED ? IN THIS INSTANCE THE MAN IS BLACK ,HE COULD HAVE BEEN WHITE

ARE you  sectioned yourself because there is clearly something amiss ,you post Nothing but Anti Tory and Anti White Bile  on the Forum

3 innocent people lost their lives , very lucky it was only 3

He has been put into another Secure Facility . For how long one wonders, Till some headcase decides he should be released Again

THE CHARGE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MURDER AND A LIFE MEANING LIFE TERM

Were the rope available I would fully support its use in this case and many others .

Hear Hear casemoney, all the liberal handwringing sentences have failed over the years.
Its time for an alternative, and that's Capital Punishment imo.
Whisper it carefully,  Schhhhhhhh, but they don't repeat offend after that.
The Gullibles like WD and COT will scream, that we occasionally  wrongly convict and kill innocent people when it was in force but,
we now have DNA. But no doubt they'll be on with there anti English anti Tory bile. and calling me a racist, facist, ist, ist, ist,
when all along, i'm a realist.

We have many Cases of Murder where whole families lives have been Destroyed , we Have DNA , The Perps need to be removed from Society for Good 

Soham , Sutcliffe the West's Peter Tobin to name but a Few , Many terrorists Deserve the same as do those who kill children or the Elderly

Perhaps a new Scheme , where the Stains could have their Houses secured and Look after one of these Types and be paid to do so

I'm sure COT and WD would have their names straight on the list

Shame Fred has gone ,I can Envisage an Evening of Him and COT sitting in front of the Fireplace sampling a fine Malt

I wonder if COT has a Cellar ?

all the liberal handwringing sentences have failed over the years.



He is a paranoid schizophrenic. Do you think the death penalty is going to be a deterrent? That it will cure him and keep the dark thoughts at bay. Jesus the stupidity on here!



If anything, we should be having a grown up conversation about mental health and how this society helps those most in need. But it's been a long time since this place was able to have such a discussion sadly.

He was Sectioned 4 times PP before  these Murders ,Doesn't seem like the treatment was working TBH . So they have let him out 4 times Presumably they think he is not a Risk

Then he Murders people and is Deemed Mentally ill

Perhaps you can explain why he has not been done for murder ? I'm sure the families of the Victims would like to know

Haven't read the verdict but manslaughter because of diminished responsibility is a thing isn't it? Roughly speaking, it's not murder because he wasn't compos mentis and didn't fully understand what he was doing.

As for his treatment, I read he'd begged the authorities to be sectioned just before this didn't he. Again though, you've illustrated my point of this not being the place for a grown up conversation about mental health in cases like this.

Jan 30, 2024 -- 9:09PM, casemoney wrote:

Perhaps you can explain why he has not been done for murder ? I'm sure the families of the Victims would like to know

Do they read these forums?

"Nottingham Murderer..Why was he hear.?"

Probably to teach you how to spell

4 x times Locked up 4 x times Sent back to live in the Community

Murders 3 people , Hes Mental its not Murder

I suggest we have a man playing the System PP for at least the 5th Time in his life ..

I suggest you have no clue what you're talking about and you're just guessing to suit your preferred narrative

Jan 25, 2024 -- 12:23PM, dambuster wrote:

Here not Hear

I did correct it straight after irishone ,  is that your only input.?

He doesn't deserve to live after that, he should be liquidised ,he's just a drain on society.

Described on the ITV news last as a Tragedy where 3 people lost their Lives  , They were murdered by a raving lunatic who should not have been on the streets

F  I  L  T  H

If you've got high blood pressure you might want to avoid reading the details below, which have surfaced from the 'inquiry' into these savage killings. The Progressives will ignore it anyway.


Well well well, who could possibly have guessed it?

Utterly absurd and imagined sensitivities regarding the killer's race were prioritised over public safety. There's a surprise.

Three innocent people were killed because of it. Three more citizens were sacrificed on the altar of Compulsory Diversity.

But not to worry. I'm sure, as always, that  "lessons will be learned".


Langdale said a doctor involved in the assessment had been “leaning towards” sectioning Calocane due to it being his “first presentation of psychosis” and a lack of information about his risk history. However, a team of mental health professionals considered research evidence that examined the over-representation of young black men in detention.



How many other lunatics are out there walking the streets instead of being in protective custody, because a "mental health professional" decides skin colour trumps public safety.

Can you begin to imagine how the families of the victims must be feeling about this truly terrible betrayal? 

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/feb/23/nottingham-killer-valdo-calocane-race-mental-health-inquiry

No shock there, alun. They need to even the numbers out somehow.
And if they can't use that one they'll use the 'social cohesion'
line to avoid locking them up.

Yes ridiculous.

Was going to post a thread about that 2 days ago but given the last DEI thread I posted about the Met hiring a black rapist to boost numbers only lasted two hours on here I didn’t think there was much point.

Hardly surprising civil servants feel that way though. You only have to see the way certain leftie posters on here throw around the word racism like confetti without any basis.

It's more absolutely incontrovertible evidence that DEI policies end up KILLING innocent citizens. The majority of whom never asked for it in the first place, and certainly don't want to pay for it. First with their case, secondly with their lives.

Yet more blood on the hands of the shameless Progressive Left.

Meanwhile soppy bollox is very concerned about an incident in a mosk 

Loony lefty liberal ideology yet again ends in carnage.

The silence from the loony lefty simpletons on here is deafening.

Wacist wacist they will continue to scweam

PorcupineorPineapple
30 Jan 24 20:29
Joined: 03 Dec 15

If anything, we should be having a grown up conversation about mental health and how this society helps those most in need. But it's been a long time since this place was able to have such a discussion sadly.


Will this “grown up conversation about mental health" you want resemble the one the Inquiry reveals was had by alleged “Mental Health Professionals” in the case of the Nottingham Killer ??

The Inquiry suggests that particular “grown up conversation” proceeded something along the lines of “Never mind the public. We can’t possibly section this bloke because he’s black. We can’t possibly make the numbers of young black men in detention look any worse than they are already, otherwise people might conclude the Progressive ‘Diversity Is Our Strength’ fantasy will look like an even bigger lie than at present. Ffs aren’t there any white people we can detain instead to make the figures look better?”. 

Do tell.

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/feb/23/nottingham-killer-valdo-calocane-race-mental-health-inquiry

https://x.com/i/status/2027173432912236915


2 years before many violent attacks nowt done , student had to jump out of window of flat as he was thrying to smash down her front door ,she broke her back

Why was this person not in a secure unit ?

3 years. How can anyone think it is ok to have human hand grenades
walking among us. I don't know what they should do with them,
but leaving them free to roam is not right.

Why was this person not in a secure unit ?


As we now know from the Inquiry, (see The Guardian report earlier in the thread) the judgement to keep him free came down purely to the colour of his skin. Medical knowledge and the safety of the public came a distant second in this decision, apparently taken by alleged "Mental Health Professionals"

There will be plenty of white total nutjobs out there as well.
Care in the community comes at the expense of the community.