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What happened to Astra Zeneca vaccine?
What happened to Astra Zeneca vaccine?
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That long-lasting base resistance has been established through vaccinations and prior infections, along with treatments having improved and a virus subtype having become dominant that is less vicious towards the lung?
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Really ?
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Yes. Do you disagree with specific points or all of it?
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Oh, and with ULEZ in place the London lungs are less vulnerable to viruses that inhibit the respiratory system. Air pollution levels and chronic exposure to it, which causes damage, are very likely correlated with the harm a respiratory virus does to people.
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Lived in London for years Edy , My children were Brought up there , nothing wrong with their Lungs ,Was no ULEZ back then , Infact I know of no Children with Lung issues
From living in London,Perhaps something Else is causing Lung Issues , Air pollution was a lot worse in the 80s and 90s , Why were people Lungs not affected ? |
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Lived in London for years Edy , My children were Brought up there , nothing wrong with their Lungs ,Was no ULEZ back then , Infact I know of no Children with Lung issues
From living in London,Perhaps something Else is causing Lung Issues , Air pollution was a lot worse in the 80s and 90s , Why were people Lungs not affected ? |
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Air pollution was Very Bad in the 60s and 70s , I dont remember the Whole school being full of Children with breathing issues , Infact I remember none
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Why is it suddenly a Major Health Issue when the Air is a lot cleaner than it was ?
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People in Every Part of the UK caught COvid , what has ULEZ to do with Covid ? I see no connection EDy
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The air pollution thing was primarily a tongue in cheek thing because people love to get energetic about ULEZ (as you coincidentally also show in enegertically picking that one up over the others). In general, people not knowing that their own respiratory system is in worse shape due to chronic exposure due to air pollution than it would be in life of fresh sea resort air does not mean the damage doesn't exist and that air pollution is not detrimental to one's health and respiratory system.
See e.g. https://www.epa.gov/pmcourse/particle-pollution-and-respiratory-effects casemoney • December 20, 2023 12:14 AM GMT Why is it suddenly a Major Health Issue when the Air is a lot cleaner than it was ? Because people know and care now. Smoking is a bigger health concern than in times gone by even though people smoke less. casemoney • December 20, 2023 12:21 AM GMT People in Every Part of the UK caught COvid , what has ULEZ to do with Covid ? I see no connection EDy Again, it was more of a tongue in cheek comment. Not entirely without reason and basis though. Right from the start of covid there were suggestions that air quality played a role in the severity of the disease, with later analysis suggesting that indeed there might indeed be something to it. See e.g. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0013935120313566 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37167483/ Again though, the ULEZ thing was a tongue in cheek throwaway comment. What's of much more interest is: casemoney • December 19, 2023 11:13 PM GMT That the Virus is now allowed to Spread with only Over 65 and Vulnerable being Jabbed , tells us all we need to know edy • December 19, 2023 11:20 PM GMT That long-lasting base resistance has been established through vaccinations and prior infections, along with treatments having improved and a virus subtype having become dominant that is less vicious towards the lung? casemoney • December 19, 2023 11:25 PM GMT Really ? edy • December 19, 2023 11:25 PM GMT Yes. Do you disagree with specific points or all of it? |
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It could be that the Iceland Volcano is emmiting poisonous gases
This causes breathing problems similar to Covid Watch this space |
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Covid variant: WHO charts its rapid global spread
But still only over 65s To be Jabbed? |
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That's what happens when societies have built up long-lasting base resistance through vaccinations and prior infections, along with treatments having improved and a virus subtype having become dominant that is less vicious towards the lung.
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I don't think the vaccine gave long lasting protection.
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While direct availability of fitting, but short-lasting, antibodies is an important part of a vaccine's function in preventing or reducing illness and was very much in focus for a while due to its longevity, or lack thereof, it isn't everything. Many vaccines, including the ones prevalent fpr SARS-CoV-2, also elicit a response in other aspects of the immune system, like t-cells, and hence prime people for a (much) longer time and a broader spectrum of similar viruses than antibodies do.
Quite similarly to how an infection is not going to cause you to have antibodies forever and ever after, but your immune system still being (somewhat) prepared nonetheless because of those other, longer-lasting aspects of your immune system that were prepared through those infections. |
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chocolate and teapots come to mind
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Basically, when your body encounters a virus for the very first time it is usually slower to react than if it has encountered that virus or a similar one before. We learn to recognise and response as we become exposed, whether it be infection or vaccination.
That's how infection with covid and also vaccination help provide protection that lasts long beyond direct immunity through the direct availability of antibodies. Note how I specifically wrote about "long-lasting base resistance through vaccinations and prior infections", saddo. Nothing that prevents infection, but something that nonethless helps the body out in handling an infection later one. As we grow older, our body will often slow down a bit in that recognition and will often also be more specific. I.e. if a 100 year old and a 50 year old know the same base virus and they then meet the same mutated version of it, the younger body is more likely to recognise the mutated version as something it knows and should react to. This kinda thing is why, especially in cold/flu season, it then becomes advised again for especially at-risk and immunosuppressed people to a) make the body have a more direct response at the ready (antibodies) in the season where infection is most likely b) refresh the memory with an updated version of the virus so that the version the body knows from back whenever and the version the body is bound to encounter in the wild aren't too mutated and different to be recognised |
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so you wrote all that to tell us old folk are more vunerable than young folk?
No sh1t Shirley |
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Shirley ?
So there is a woman on the forum ? |
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plenty fannies
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