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excellent opener from kirk

Excellent effort

Eric could have easily slipped in the EU

Another Japanese soldier. Must be some dense jungle he's been buried in.


The country's on fire, fuel bills are going stupid, people are getting worse off with each passing month and the country is forecasted to have the lowest growth from any major economy but he wants to argue about brexit again.


These people are just f*cking weird.

And Corbyn

Just been reading posts by Indian IT workers (names replaced to post here) on Northallerton MP Rishi Sunak’s billionaire father-in-law N Murphy (also making Rishi Sunak’s wife richer than the Queen) who ran and made billions from outsourcing Indian IT company Infosys before retiring, costing UK IT workers their jobs and suppressed wages for decades ...
Commenter1 (discussing Apple) -
· At least it is giving 5-10 times more salary than Infosys. Plus the quality of work and brand name which no one gets in Infosys.

Commenter2 -
· N Murthy is one epitome a of self serving hipocrite. He sits on a humongous wealth, but continues to leech on outsourcing, without investing in anything more productive other than hiring warm bodies for IT outsourcing. Time to time, he makes some profound statements about improving India - without putting his big money where his big mouth is. At the least, he must retire and save himself from embarrassment.

Commenter3 -
· All the Infosys founders are leeches. They wax eloquent about morality but sit on piles of wealth made on the backs of underpaid employees. These guys should just shut up

It related to his great idea here -
https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/indians-should-work-60-hours-week-next-2-3-yrs-revive-economy-narayana-murthy-123661

Don't expect investigative journalism from our left wing crony media. Blair started the outsourcing with discredited MP Keith Vaz helping him. Ok it's globalisation you say, fine, get used to not being able to afford a UK cost of living once your wage is eroded.

Government IT contracts will be off to India before we know it with UK workers forced out and wages surpressed. I might ask for a market on this once Sunak buys his party votes to be PM.

Any ideas on which careers can be outsourced next by him when he is in power?

You are so right eric remainers cannot and must never be trusted
as long as a single one remains in this country

But Brexit is here to stay, forever

Not now, it is being bought by Sunak plc.

I would be interested in who owns ITV now. Reckon Sunak backers might be found if the ownership layers are unravelled.

Sunak shouldn’t have been allowed to run for pm following his betrayal of Boris

Gonna need a bigger bingo card

Looks like strong remain voter lfc arguing it out yet again with another Brexiteer.

Jul 20, 2022 -- 9:17AM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:

Gonna need a bigger bingo card

Ha ha, I love A_T's Breibart Bingo mornings!

Eric, what's happening? Has Boris Johnson Resigned or something?

tell us more

Eric,
Don't worry, Chris Pincher will save Boris for you.

Pincher has retained tory whip to enable
his vote in tory leadership debacle

Does leaver Liz Truss welcome his support

She’s a remainer , but despite this I hope she wins
Something about her I like

Truss is/was a Liberal Democrat and a remoaner. Just one of the many remoaners who still cannot come to terms with democracy following the Brexit vote.

Its about time that they all, yes every single one of them, shut the fcuk up and got on with life instead of trying to hinder.

Tiger Tiger 20 Jul 22 14:09 
Truss is/was a Liberal Democrat and a remoaner. Just one of the many remoaners who still cannot come to terms with democracy following the Brexit vote.




When was she a member of the Liberal Democrats please?

She may not be a quitter at heart but, just Like Boris, she'll do whatever "they" want if it means being able to sit in the big chair

Don’t think we can fault her since the referendum tiger

although of course being a remainer there is a lingering doubt about her trustworthyness

But she deserves the benefit of the doubt , I suppose that might be misplaced but I hope not

The brexiteers failed to accept democracy for 40 years.

It won't take that long to rejoin.



https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/apply-for-a-lump-sum-payment-to-leave-or-retire-from-farming

Another brexit bonus

Yhtl don’t act the fool
Brexiteers always respected democracy and it would be enter our world to do otherwise

Many peoples' political views change significantly as you get older ,typically from left to right ,as you get smarter and "worldwise" ,the exceptions of course are the 'kin old lefty woke hippies on here. So yes I want Liz to win.

* not

sparrow, Truss was President of Oxford University Liberal Democrats and a member of the national executive committee of Liberal Democrat Youth and Students.

We are not talking about her student days, tiger.

The will of the people was to join the European project

Brexiteers were against the will of the people for
years and years with their dishonesty led by
an overseas unelected tax dodger.

We will rejoin within 40 years, simples

I wonder how many on this thread voted in 1975?

European project: designed to protect German manufacturing + French inefficient farmers, as well as pull away from NATO and cuddle up with Putin ,plus FOM ,CAP and the Euro.      17.2 million is greater than 16.8 million and that is democratic.

Was very nice of the Thatcher government to altruistically mastermind and design the single market to protect German manufacturing. Appreciate it.

Ted Heath said that if the Conservatives won the next election (1970), he would take us into the Common Market without further ado and without a vote, that's exactly what he did.

There was NO referendum to join the Common Market, NONE at all.

Later there was a Referendum on whether to remain in the Common Market, but there was NOT a referendum BEFORE we joined.

Of course donny, you voted Conservative then didn't you?

If you so called Socialists out there would like to watch a debate on the pro and cons of remaining in the Common Market, way back in 1975, then you could do worse than watch this programme, its a Panorama with two politicians one in the remain corner and one in the leave corner, yes its actually Tony Benn in the leave corner and Woy Jenkins in the remain corner, in the days when politicians spoke to each other rather than shouted abuse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zBFh6bpcMo&ab_channel=DominicNaylor

Its an eye opener!!

Politicians just banter around a bit heatedly for the show, but will have beer together when the cameras and microphones are off. Apart from the recent wave of alt-cringe QAnoners that sniff pedo socialist world destruction plans everywhere.

Those get truly heated, as is to be expected if you think everyone else is out to doom you.

Thanks for posting that link, tiger tiger. I always had the greatest respect for Tony Benn and I wish he could have been PM instead of "bloody" Wilson.

Tony Benn had an underling J.Corbyn ,who considered Benn "his mentor" ,Corbyn never committed on Brexit ,though I strongly suspect he supported it because it would broadly be very Socialist. Protectionism is a right wing economic concept ,hence the biggest remain lobby was the ultra right wing CBI.

There was NO referendum to join the Common Market, NONE at all.






Because referendums had no part in the British constitution. We are and were a parliamentary democracy.

The Tories haven't been right-wing since Thatcher. I hope they burn to the ground at the next election and never recover.

Jul 20, 2022 -- 3:45PM, flat16 wrote:

Tony Benn had an underling J.Corbyn ,who considered Benn "his mentor" ,Corbyn never committed on Brexit ,though I strongly suspect he supported it because it would broadly be very Socialist. Protectionism is a right wing economic concept ,hence the biggest remain lobby was the ultra right wing CBI.

While the EU does not practice free for all no rules free trade, you'll be hardpressed to find many countries or trade blocks on the planet that have a more spanning free trade area than the EU has created both within itself and with partners world wide.

Brexit is a funny thing in that the itself EU is both radical socialist left and ultra right wing apparently.

flat16 20 Jul 22 15:45 
Tony Benn had an underling J.Corbyn ,who considered Benn "his mentor" ,Corbyn never committed on Brexit ,though I strongly suspect he supported it because it would broadly be very Socialist. Protectionism is a right wing economic concept ,hence the biggest remain lobby was the ultra right wing CBI.





Its a well known fact that Corbyn consistently voted against the EU and even against the party whip to do so.
No need to "suspect" anything at all.

The corn laws 1815 ish were early protectionism ,as set up by rich land owners to prevent cheap food being imported for the masses ,thereby forcing them to buy the "ring fenced" expensive home grown produce.
FOM ensures industry/manufacturing/farming gets "cheap labour" to the detriment of the indigenous labour force.
So EU is clearly right wing.

So ****g boring.

Opening post, clearly clueless.

Yawn yawn yawn.

Then why comment on the thread?

I absolutely agree that the EU is centre-right and has been most of its time, although I disagree that protectionism is an inherently right wing whereas the socialists are apparently not protectionist. My connections to the former GDR just demand me not to walk down that road without protest.

Anyone bored?

I would really prefer it if you referred to me by my full name  ... ybm ... thank you

A_T 20 Jul 22 08:04

excellent opener from kirk

well at least we are now in full control of our borders.Only 700 a day now.