Next Prime Minister market

Going to see all sorts of mad sh1t from the tories and Truss,will be like Victorian times gonna laugh my tits off till the riots start...

Ive got a decent green on all bjt Truss

Ive decided to risk the green on her and go for the big green by laying her at short odds right down to a big green on the others

In the hope somehow something happens and shes not the winner

Funny thing is all this is on the next om after bojo so if bojo stays we technically wont be settled for a good while?

That little drift fooked me over a bit as I was hoping to lay more at sub 1.1

Still happy though, nothing lost now at least anyway and could be a nice payout if she ends up losing

Money for xmas

It is a sizeable drift,no wonder, huge u turn on the public worker tax thing and sheer stupidity to go on record to ignore Nicola Sturgeon. 2 big gaffes in a few hours,she surely is the one to fill boris's shoes.

Not surprising really.

Sunak is the far better candidate.

It's only his family baggage which is his undoing.

It's only his family baggage which is his undoing.


What....the fact his family is from Africa?

You think the Blue Rinse and Nazi's would elect a brown boy?

That is why they are voting for an idiot like Mavis Riley who doesn't have a scooby and is telling whatever lies she thinks the Blue Risne want to hear.

We had a LIAR as Prime Minister now we are going to have a clueless puppet of the Swivel Eyed loons!

God helps us!

What a choice we have!

Mr Grimsdale!

Aug 2, 2022 -- 3:55PM, Wesdag wrote:

Not surprising really.Sunak is the far better candidate.It's only his family baggage which is his undoing.

Of course not.

More to do with his wife's tax status & his green card issue.

Aug 2, 2022 -- 4:03PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:

It's only his family baggage which is his undoing.What....the fact his family is from Africa?

see above

Whisperingdeath • August 2, 2022 4:07 PM BST
You think the Blue Rinse and Nazi's would elect a brown boy?

What's Labour's record like?

Who gives a feck about his wife's tax status?

Ministers giving tax payer funded contracts to their pub landlord and we are outraged that his wife legally uses her non dom status to pay less tax?

Get real wes!

Mavis is the most outstanding candidate? The best the Tories can do?

God help us. I predict a riot!

Sunak is the far better candidate.

It's only his family baggage which is his undoing.

Are you freal wes?

Of all the people who think it is ok to dodge tax it is the Tories!

You think cos his wife has legally avoided paying tax the Blue Rinse and Nazi's think he is not fit to be Prime Minister and Mavis " I don't really know " is a better candidate?

Look at her last **** up. Levelling down! and her people are lying about it today but Sunak's wife is the deal breaker?


You are on drugs if you really believe that!

They are also in the business of winning elections WD.

Admittedly, Truss ain't exactly a vote winner herself but Sunak & his billionaire tax dodging wife aren't particularly relatable.

If Sunak had a more humble family story, he'd walk it.

oh please!

You think Mavis is capable of running a cabinet without the Swivel Eyed Loons let alone win a General Election?

First of all Mrs Sunak broke no laws. The Prime Minister and his Henchman Cummings did and you think that Sunak's wife has anything to do with this?

Come on wes!

Something must have just happen, either Liz is offering tax free lap dance vouchers or Riishi's Grindr account has been monkey poxed

liz in from 1.26 an hour ago.
such a rush to get on that there's >100% wanting to back

UK - Next Prime Minister -- Prime Minister after Boris Johnson

87 Runners            £4,317,386 Matched

			109.6%		100.1%
Rishi Sunak.	10	10.5	11		11.5	12	12.5	£1,186,332
	£9	£5	£116		£2	£49	£4
Liz Truss	1.07	1.08	1.09		1.1	1.11	1.12	£1,499,227
	£10	£15,093	£100		£905	£446	£246
plus 85 more runners not listed above, at odds of over 100

The market was fooled by a dodgy looking poll commissioned by the Truss campaign giving her just a 5 point lead. YouGov have just released their latest poll.

Truss - 60%
Sunak - 26%
Undecided/won’t vote - 14%

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1554546324158169090/photo/1

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/08/02/truss-leads...

More bad news for Sunak, The rules have been changed and now only one vote is allowed.


https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/spooks-step-in-to-stop-tory-hacks

NEW Conservative members leadership poll (29 Jul - 2 Aug)

Headline VI
Truss: 69% (+7 from 20-21 Jul)
Sunak: 31% (-7)

Full response
Truss: 60% (+11)
Sunak: 26% (-5)
Don't know/won't vote: 13% (-8)


i think the members have said they intend to vote early too jack bauer 24, so sunak needs several humungous howlers in the next few days.

it was an interesting market move.

Only allowed to vote once?

Rishi should do a Trump and claim it's ****/stolen already

it had been suggested that they would be allowed to change their minds after making their choice, this isnt now going to happen. hence only voting once.

Imwill lay another couple hundred for pennies then so happy days

Ive literally only got a -£12 on Truss

But the others will be green over a grand... so its a big win for me if something silly happens, if it doesnt them ah well it will be fun watching the fireworks once she gets in I suppose

Its actually -£21.46 because ive had to do these lays on smarkets since last week aswell as having live bets on here and 365

Altogether added

Smarkets a bit behind can only lay 1.15 atthe min so will hopefully come in to 1.1 soon again

Looks like some cleaned up on the back of the "rogue" poll.

Mr Sunak is toast. Even his former boss and friend Sajid Javid is backing Ms Truss. I think it's only decent and correct thing to do if Mr Sunak withdraws his candidacy to become PM.

He should just withdraw to be fair its finished barring a massive exposure story which isnt coming

Can't wait to see the mad sh1t she's going to come up with especially with pressure from the ERG,it's gonna be like living in the 1800s gonna laugh my head off and wait for the riots,bring it on asap.

It's looking like Rishi "We have 5 types of bread in our house" Sunak is TOAST

UK - Party Leaders -- Next Conservative Leader.

61 Runners            £4,459,940 Matched

			106.9%		99.5%
Liz Truss	1.07	1.08	1.09		1.1	1.11	1.12	£2,114,513
	£2,885	£4,900	£8,354		£7,034	£25	£20
Rishi Sunak	9.8	10	11		12	12.5	13	£1,158,186
	£400	£2	£453		£107	£126	£15
plus 59 more runners not listed above, at odds of over 100

How the hell as a candidate for PM could he advocate a rise in National Insurance but not a windfall tax on energy companies? What good is a tax cut later on while most are facing a much higher cost of living? Also, what's so wrong about the younger generation shouldering some of the burden of Covid? This country was built on the hard graft of their forebears otherwise there would be no free education, free nhs, etc.

I think Mr Sunak is on a different planet to most of us. I'm glad his former boss has not backed him to be leader or PM.

This followed reports in December that 5 Hertford St had become “ground zero for anti-Boris plotters”.

Disloyal?

It dies concern me from a lay point of view on the next pm after boris market which mine are

Because Turss is only going up for tory leadership not neccessirily the pm post, ie she wins tory leadership but boris remains as pm

That is a strong possibility in my opinion

I should have done these bets on tory leadership market

Further evidence why Truss will be a shoe-in.

Sunak is a complete open goal for Labour.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/rishi-sunak-builds-private-pool-27619489

Aug 4, 2022 -- 8:03PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:

It dies concern me from a lay point of view on the next pm after boris market which mine are Because Turss is only going up for tory leadership not neccessirily the pm post, ie she wins tory leadership but boris remains as pm That is a strong possibility in my opinion

Lol.

No chance of that happening.

In what kind of world are we living in where the UK are about to have a PM , who is as thick as mince.
Bring on a GE, she will be buried out of sight.

You say that but there's little enthusiasm for Labour.

With all what's going on, Labour should be out of sight in the polls.

Latest YouGov poll had them 1pt clear.

Truss knows she ain't up to the job. Just like Boris she is sh!t scared to face a grilling from Andrew Neil.

Oh yeh, YouGov, founded by the Millionaire and current Tory Chancer,  Nadhim Zahawi

According to YouGov, Tories are a mile short of achieving an overall majority of seats

as dumb as she often appeared she has managed to survive nearly a decade in cabinet, achieve next to nothing and still persuade the tories that she should be our next pm. imo, she has grown a bit more positive during this campaign. the ultimate shape shifter - a remainer who was a republican being embraced by the tory faithful. obviously she is up against it but maybe she is a bit smarter than she seems.

Zahawi doesn't do the polling groundwork

Furthermore, if their polling was always way out, why would reputable news outlets continue to use them?

On which planet is it acceptable for someone who thinks he is Prime Minister material to boast openly about diverting money away from deprived areas to give it to wealthy tory supporters? I thought it was a wind-up until I saw the footage on the news. Although truss is a useless muppet, surely Sunak has holed his campaign below the waterline with this one. Further proof, as if it were needed, that the Tories hold the ordinary working people of this country in absolute and total contempt!

Something tells me my short laying to win big is another failure...

Des Pond

Spot on

Sunak is correct , too much money going into London areas ( which vote labour )
at the expense of other parts of the country

The amount of money poured into London compared to these Red Wall seats is obscene. London get's 7 times the amount per capita just on public transport alone. You wait for half an hour for a bus in Manchester, in London 5 minutes is a long time!!!

London gets £19bn spent on crossrail and Newcastle gets £50 million to smarten up its town centre That wouldn't even buy the roof on the new Canary Wharf station

Boris invented Levelling up as a vapour policy. Say it often enough and the poor northern saps will believe it.

Johnson's whole term in office was constant glib and meaningless sound bites

Aug 5, 2022 -- 10:59PM, lfc1971 wrote:

Sunak is correct , too much money going into London areas ( which vote labour )at the expense of other parts of the country

If Sunak was referring specifically to London then he's absolutely correct.

I've lived in London my whole life & the amount of money spent on vanity projects in the capital compared to elsewhere in the country is obscene.

Spent £63 million on an imaginary garden bridge in London... Nice one Boris

I'm a Labour supporter however, I've not voted Labour since Mr Corbyn was at the helm. Now with Sir Starmer it's not a given I'll vote Labour either. In the past I'd have, why?

Politics and Party loyalty have moved on. For me the Labour team is handicapped by its leader. Where is Andy Burnham? Or maybe I've become more picky (and less Labour) as I grow older. I do not like the promotion of Labour MPs just merely on political correctness, and not suitability or talent.

I leaning toward Ms Truss gien here politics and upbringing. I'd never vote for Mr Sunak for the same reason, and his lack of experience and conceited attitude. Mr Sunak thinks he knows it all!

Labour haver been captured by wokery.

They currently have men who are women's officers who tell women upset about such nonsense to "suck their big lady dick".

I'll never vote Labour again while such anti-women is allowed to flourish.

*anti-women garbage

Best way to stop recessions is to scrap minimum wages

Soon as you do that everyone ompetes again, prices come down

Not lowring taxes ffs., its like listening to imbeciles with the current puppets

"Best way to stop recessions is to scrap minimum wages"

Who do you think pays when wages are low?

The tax payer forced to top up the wages of any family relying on a minimum wage job. 
The tax payer is subsidising all the businesses that pay minimum wage, paying the housing benefit, school meals, topping up the income with Universal credit etc. etc.


Raise the minimum wage to a level where the tax payer isn't paying  half the wages.


If a business can't utilise a worker to make enough money to pay the worker with out subsidies, then it ain't a benefit to the country, it's a drain on the country, and it ain't a viable business.

minimum wage is 9.50 ph

for 2 adults that is £760 pw. £3293 pcm.

how much are you advocating for?

The introduction of minimum wage was the start of all this

I'm neutral on 'minimum wage', however the far more pernicious policy in my opinion is in work benefits/ tax credits. Basically millions of people manufactured off the unemployment numbers by deigning to work 2 days a week. So that could well be the two adults in a family working four days out of ten, and taxpayers supplementing their lifestyle, when they are both reported in the stats as working. Tax credits should be phased out.

They claimed only 700,000 were on unemployment benefit 2 years ago

And we know exactly how the fudged the number

Have some posters been living under a rock for the last year?

There is a huge shortage of labour, airlines and airports are cancelling flights because they can't recruit staff even though they are offering way above minimum wage.

The same is happening  down high streets across the country.

Which has been replicated across the world ?

Maybe you can't shut down an entire industry for two years, and switch it back on again, and expect the same service levels and capacity as before shutting it down. Just maybe.

Truss is going to be a bigger embarrassment than boris

Boris stood up to the establishment and got Brexit done and thus was hounded out of office.

Plenty of other PMs who did not rock the boat were allowed to carry on.

Boris did more for this country than any PM since Churchill.

Aug 8, 2022 -- 7:51PM, SirNorbertClarke wrote:

Have some posters been living under a rock for the last year?There is a huge shortage of labour, airlines and airports are cancelling flights because they can't recruit staff even though they are offering way above minimum wage.The same is happening

Shortage in Labour is due to the 'Covid crisis' and laying off of staff during the 'crisis'.

Plenty in the labour force are now used to 'working from home' and receiving handouts from Sunak for doing absolutely nothing and will not happily return to work.

Until people stop being supported financally for doing nothing the 'crisis' will continue.

"Boris did more for this country than any PM since Churchill."

what did he do for this country?

apart from highest tax rate since 1947,
40 imaginary hospitals,
£37billion on an app,
lockdowns,
getting all the I.T. in downing street installed by a Russian company,
£350 phuckin K on hall wallpaper,
getting a huge majority against the dumbest phuck the labour insane party could find as their leader.
etc. etc.


what good did he do for this country?
if he's the greatest pm as you say, then your list of his great contributions to the UK will be huge.

"Boris did more for this country than any PM since Churchill."

9 out of 10 dentists not accepting NHS patients,
14 hour wait for ambulances

well done Boris

Got Brexit done.

All the other stuff a consequence of him being railroaded into lockdowns.

he didn't even get brexit done, it was Theresa May who triggered article 50, we were exiting the EU on Jan 31st 2020 regardless of what ever numpty was PM.


Boris didn't get brexit done, the UK was leaving with or without him.

^
Someone has forgotten what actually happened the last year of May's regime with May trying to force through alignment with EU on goods and Parliament dividded and nothing happening. People like Starmer calling for a second referendum etc.

Boris came in and got a Brexit deal through Parliament and was ready to unleash the UK... then 'Covid' hit.

Theresa May got brexit done, boris just sat in the drivers seat as the UK crashed out.

Mrs May deal was to stay in the single market and protect the Union,Boris,the dup and erg went for their version which was a Singapore on Thames type deal,regulations down the toilet,suit the moneyed and hit the ordinary person.

The EU didn't want Mays deal which had the benefit of SM and paying nothing.

You got Boris's version and here you are,people less well off, highest taxes since 1947,services gone to pot,the Scots unhappy.

Your benchmark now re the two versions is Northern Ireland.

May's deal meant following EU rules with no say.

It was absurd.

Parliament knew this. The British public who voted for her to lose the Tory majority knew this.

Boris got Brexit done. He got an 80 seat majority for his deal.

Ultimately the British public decided to not follow the rules/laws of the unelected Brussels bureacrats.

You did get the single market though with May, hassle free exports,no payment to the EU,cheaper produce for people,no change or protocol in NI.

Ask why the UK wants to diverge from EU standards(which the UK made a lot of them,themselves)?

It was to do away primarily with financial rules,the dirty money would have a haven,it will also do away with food standard rules,employment rules. In fact 'they' can do what they like,you honestly think it will be 'cricket'?

It won't,nothing is left after covid and fuel and these rule book changes will be a blessing in the downward spiral,you cannot compete which is reflected in exports.

Boris didn't comprehend the Brexit deal at all. That is why SME are fcuked exporting to the EU.

We haven't got control of our borders either. Any fcuker can land on the beach in Dover and never be sent back.

If Boris is the greatest anything since Churchill it's the greatest w4nker

Brexit is done and dusted for many, many months now. Even the dreaded deadly Covid has come and gone courtesy of vaccinations. Thus why dig up old "arguments" again? If bored, engage in positive discussions about the impending heatwave; just let go and allow Brexit to decide its own fate or level guided by the learned professionals selected for the tasks.

Empty vessels make the most noise!!

If Brexit is done and dusted why did this government just pass the Northern Ireland Protocol bill?

It's just one of those things that tends to tag on as a result of a lack of urgency. It was in the in-tray awaiting attention. Many decades within the EU thus what's the significance of a few months given Covid pandemic and geopolitical climate in Ukraine aided and abetted by EU incompetence?

The EU is a non-entity, just a pension pot for the self-serving gravy-trainers.

The EU is a non-entity, just a pension pot for the self-serving gravy-trainers.

A bit like the House of Lords then?



Incidentally there are 775 in the House of Lords (100 appointed by Johnson) and just 705 in the European Parliament.

What's it like to have your whole argument fall apart?

Stop moving the discussion goalpost. Brexit is about leaving the EU - the cesspit of cronyism and incompetence. We got out of the EU because the EU was taking the mickey; making self-serving policies to suit; putting cronyism before productivity, growth and direction.

What has Poland/Bulgaria done for the EU? What has Ukraine done to deserve non-admittance to EU but invasion by Putin Russia aided and abetted by EU? Why has the EU knowingly contributed hugely to the economic and military might of Putin Russia? Yet no one from the EU has been held to account for this catastrophe and miseries heaped upon the Ukrainians.

I honestly believe the EU need to finally compensate for their incompetence towards the Ukrainian people. Maybe the Brexit divorce bill ought to head towards Ukraine rather than fattening up Poland/Bulgaria even more or the pockets of EU bureaucrats and past-in politicians holding high offices thro cronyism (not ability).

Stop moving the discussion goalpost



You brought up gravy-trainers not me. I just pointed out we have far more gravy-trainers than the EU.

What's the best thing about being an EU member state? What benefit would be at the top of your list?

"What's the best thing about being an EU member state? What benefit would be at the top of your list?"

1st) straight bananas
=2nd) Euro single currency
=2nd) large market leading to competitive consumer prices
=2nd) large market leading to more business and more jobs
=2nd) single market, less paperwork = more business & cheaper consumer prices
=2nd) cheaper holidays
=2nd) reciprocal health care.
=2nd) travel/work/live where you want for how ever long you want
3rd) Marathon are called Snickers

Some people are very much in favour of straight bananas and cucumbers.

Boris Johnson "hounded" himself out of office.  Utterly inept - and he always was.  He couldn;t tell the truth to save his life. A con-man, and chancer of the first order.  It would not surprise me if the Tories have him back at some future point either so brainwashed are they.

Boris will probably go live in the EU like his father

Boris will be divorced inside 5 years.

Once he starts gallivanting around the world giving speeches about how he defeated the EU and how he saved Kyiv and gave Putin a bloody nose the fat tw4t won't be able to help himself.

I asked for one (obviously). Even if we were in the EU, we wouldn't have the EUR as our currency. Having to have the same monetary policy as twenty odd other countries is not a good thing.

See when you break it down, the EU is just a protection racket. Like the people who come into your shop armed with baseball bats and offer you insurance.

The EU is a cartel just like the Columbian clan. The only major differences being the EU are more open; accepted as legit; discreet with rewarding cronyism but just as sh1t eg Von de leyen and Macron - the two Putin stooges/cronies. I'd not be surprised if Macron ends up in Russia eventually; Von de leyen will probably disappear into obscurity with no recognisable positive policy/contribution post her reign.

I firmly believe when the present minnow members eg Poland, Bulgaria, Czech Rep, etc, are asked to "contribute" financially to the EU coffer in the future they'll initiate a divorce or renounce membership to the EU. These members are in the EU for financial gain, benefits and freedom of travel.

Pish

I'd not be surprised if Macron ends up in Russia eventually

Blocked for being a nutjob

The marathon is finally on The Mall, tape in sight.

Day before declaration, polling closed. Final 2 runners.

Emma Kennedy
@EmmaKennedy
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7h
It's kind of funny that the person who was one of the first to be knocked out of the leadership contest is now PM.

Will he do pmqs?

Everyone and their cat knows that the Tory Party will never allow Liz Truss to fight a General Election.

So how are they going to get a new leader?

https://twitter.com/JeremyHunt_MP/status/1581317418835927041?s=19

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