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Farage blasting out full support for Putin
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ha ha what would trump have done. stood up beside pootin like a gimp again and said everyone else is lying and pootin is telling the truth?
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No mate. I'm the guy who's posted my thoughts well in advance and sadly, like Cassandra, am watching them come alive while the mugs are still getting their opinions formed by RT and youtube.
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that would be the same trump that wanted to break up nato? Why would pootin "do anything" when trump was doing everything for him?
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barry and biden? It's also a case of Russia watching as Europe has run itself so badly as to shoot itself in the foot by coming apart politically. Then of course there is the apology of a minister of state who runs our lot. At least presides over it. And of course Nato threating to do to Ukraine what Kruschev did to Cuba.
It is a shambles of the West's making . And guess what - we voted all of these people and situations in!  |
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dave1357 Joined: 05 Sep 10
Replies: 1873122 Feb 22 10:49 that would be the same trump that wanted to break up nato? Why would pootin ..................... I think that was to get countries -especially Germany- to cough up their unpaid membership fees dave? |
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there aren't any "membership fees"
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To be fair, that Christopher Chandler and his Legatum Institute needs a bit of digging into. Open him up and there'll just be more petrushka dolls inside, he's that Russian.
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dave, it was figure of speech. The poster is right, Trump wanted them to pay much more to the pot which funds the[organisation's activities. He never once to my knowledge suggested it's dismantling or the USA leaving it.
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That's also garbage
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It was about Germany spending more of its GDP on its own military budget, not about Germany putting anything additional into any NATO pots to directly fund NATO or any of its activities.
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Officially that was his aim anyway. In reality it was much more likely domestic posturing.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/how-nato-leaders-kept-trump-from-blowing-up-the-alliance-2021-12?r=US&IR=T
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Trump likely fist pumping the invasion too.
Hoping the loans disappear. |
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Donald Trump questioned the necessity of NATO, complained about US spending on the alliance, and criticized the underinvestment of many NATO members.
No mention whatsoever of him wanting to "blow it up". "seemed" was the word used in the article. He clearly questioned everything, and rightly so. Certainly made the member states sit up and take notice. Complacency, as is being proved now, is Nato's biggest weakness. |
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/us/politics/nato-president-trump.html
Senior administration officials told The New York Times that several times over the course of 2018, Mr. Trump privately said he wanted to withdraw from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Current and former officials who support the alliance said they feared Mr. Trump could return to his threat as allied military spending continued to lag behind the goals the president had set. In the days around a tumultuous NATO summit meeting last summer, they said, Mr. Trump told his top national security officials that he did not see the point of the military alliance, which he presented as a drain on the United States. |
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And remember trump was impeached for holding back military aid from Ukraine to try to force them to investigate Biden.
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Well trump was being paid to say that, so
he would say it. The whole right wing racist whack job set up is funded that way. |
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during his presidency there was a huge disconnect between Trump and the State Department. Trump was hostile to NATO and never once criticised Putin while for the USA NATO remained a vital partnership and Russia very much not a friend.
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Trump was hostile to NATO and never once criticised Putin
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50875935 He might not have criticised him but Trump approved sanctions on Nord Stream 2. Biden lifted them. |
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Truehoncho you are right about Trump as he is in Putin's pocket.When Trumps hotel chain was failing and he seemed to be heading for bankruptcy Russian businessmen pumped an absolute fortune into his chain. Their were money laundering on behalf of Vlad. This is why Trump has resisted examination of his financial affairs by the American tax authorities for ever it seems to me.
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Always "seemed" or "privately" and thus no hard facts or corroboration.
I don't accept such stuff until there is clear, irrefutable hard evidence. It's irrelevant anyway. Nato still exists and is still a cabal of toothless wonders. |
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NATO & the UN are completely worthless
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In full agreement. You could also add the WHO, whose handling of this pandemic, in the early stages, appears to have left a lot to be desired.
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Loyalhoncho you are never going to get 100% irrefutable truth that Vlad is a naughty boy because he is exceptionally clever at hiding his criminality behind hundreds of different front companies and gets others to carry out his illicit acts.
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Farage the only person with any sense
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ok you lefty slow learner fukktards
trump increased sanctions on russia, humiliated putin in syria and tried again and again to pressure germany into cancelling nord stream russian collussion is fake news and you ahve al falen for it hook line and sinker |
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LoyalHoncho • February 22, 2022 2:41 PM GMT
You could also add the WHO, whose handling of this pandemic, in the early stages, appears to have left a lot to be desired. Perhaps if trump had backed them up instead of sucking up to China because he wanted a trade deal, they would have had more info on which to make a decision. |
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back in august the WHO was advising against boosters saying the west should give the jabs to africans instead
imagine what would have happened if we had followed their advice |
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Vladimir has Donald in his pocket. When Trump won the election against Hillary Clinton,it was the Russians who gave Trump the information that Hillary Clinton was using a private email account. That's because they wanted Trump to win.
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yes mate that's exactly what happened
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hilary's emails came up early in the primaries
neithr trump nor hillary were even the nominees at that point |
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That information won Trump the election.his lock her up chant was devastating.
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of course it did mate
was decisive and lock her up was only about the emails and trump did so much for vlad in return it's all so clear and obvious |
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why can't these trumptards accept the truth?
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"Russian spies began trying to hack Hillary Clinton's email server on the very day Donald Trump urged the Russian government to find emails Clinton erased". This was possibly an AMAZING COINCIDENCE
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yes Russia wanted Trump to win I have no doubt about that
how much impact their efforts had is another story and the suggestion that Trump is somehow indebted to them is ludicrous |