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Neil Young calls Spotify's bluff over Joe Rogan

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By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 28 Jan 22 12:25
"It's just standard practice now that people believe the smears and dismiss an individual, and openly admit they are ignorant."
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 28 Jan 22 13:21
Fire seems to be confusing us saying we've never heard of him before with being really interested in learning more about him. Funny how these types attract the weak sort who have to evangelise about them.
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jan 22 13:38
It's almost like you're saying you've never heard of him, but have already made your mind up. Which is a curious approach.
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jan 22 13:39
Some might say, an ignorant one.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 28 Jan 22 13:44
No, just saying I've never heard of him, but what little I've gleaned from this thread gives me no inclination to delve further. Having the daughter putting on the radio in the car and hearing some K-Pop band that she's into. Same as that but in boring old fart forum mode.
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 28 Jan 22 13:50
I've seen RIP threads where people post "never heard of him" as if they are relevant.
Odd behaviour.
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 28 Jan 22 13:53
Is this how forums go now?
Declare non-knowledge of a subject and dedicate posts towards non-knowing
Won't that clutter the place up?
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 28 Jan 22 13:58
.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Rogan

for information purposes only ^^^^
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 28 Jan 22 13:59
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Young

for balance and the younger than methuselah ^^^ Cool
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jan 22 14:02
Claim ignorance but add to the smearing.

Generally you have two groups of people these days. Those who like to think for themselves and make their own individual judgements, and another who base their opinions on what their collective thinks and claims. Not only that, but they will peddle the same claims to demonstrate their continued 'membership' of that group. It happens in lots of areas, the JK Rowling smearing would be an example.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 28 Jan 22 14:03
I did say I was going to rile the youtube addictsLaugh
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jan 22 14:05
'I've no idea who Joe Rogan is, but he sounds like a far right, anti vax nutter'

And these people really do think they have the intellectual high ground Laugh
By:
JetLoneStar
When: 28 Jan 22 14:06
Barry Manilow the next boomer sent to the shadow realm

Rogan is the immovable object, the left have no force let alone an unstoppable one  Laugh
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 28 Jan 22 14:07
I stumbled across JR after listening to Bill Burrs podcasts (funny guy) and have watched about 20 mins of JR's stuff while skimming through.
He riles up the right people so he's okay by me Cool
By:
politicspunter
When: 28 Jan 22 14:08
What's the name of the K-pop band? Let's see if I have heard of them Grin
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jan 22 14:09
You did, when claiming you'd never heard of him. I don't think anyone had mentioned you tube before you did. It's a stretch, but my strong suspicion is that you were making that up.
By:
JetLoneStar
When: 28 Jan 22 14:09
What's interesting is that Rogan was / is a liberal - not a right wing trumper by any means, I guess he just had the intelligence to realise the left was morphing into a more fascist authoritarian ideology. Shame more of them don't have that mental capacity.
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 28 Jan 22 14:11
He's a good lad imo
Has deffo resurrected old man Neil Young's career I reckon
JR is a giver, he gives back Devil
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jan 22 14:14
Rogan would be the first person to invite Young onto his channel. The dissenters wouldn't get that, though.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 28 Jan 22 14:15
Christ, if you we don't all suck the same d!ck you do you don't have to whinge about it. I'm glad you've found someone to love online. Good for you. Not for me though. But thanks.
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jan 22 14:16
one of his best chats is the bernie sanders one, imho.
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 28 Jan 22 14:16
Laugh
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 28 Jan 22 14:17
sorry, PP did make me laugh then. Cool
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jan 22 14:19
Funnily enough, I don't care if you like him or not. The odd bit is that you think there's value in you telling the thread you've never heard of him, but have apparently made your mind up based on what others think.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 28 Jan 22 14:19

Jan 28, 2022 -- 2:09PM, Cider wrote:


You did, when claiming you'd never heard of him. I don't think anyone had mentioned you tube before you did. It's a stretch, but my strong suspicion is that you were making that up.


you might want to check the post directly before I mentioned youtubeLaugh

By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 28 Jan 22 14:21

Jan 28, 2022 -- 2:19PM, Cider wrote:


Funnily enough, I don't care if you like him or not. The odd bit is that you think there's value in you telling the thread you've never heard of him, but have apparently made your mind up based on what others think.


Yes mate, that's exactly how it works. If my mate tells me to check out a band I will. If my daughter does I probably won't.

By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 28 Jan 22 14:21
What's the beef with youtube?
You can see the moon landings on there if you search
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jan 22 14:22
In relation to Rogan obviously. That link doesn't tell you anything about Rogan or why he is so popular.
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jan 22 14:28
Yes mate, that's exactly how it works. If my mate tells me to check out a band I will. If my daughter does I probably won't.


Perhaps, but it's less likely you will regurgitate your daughter's opinions like a mogadon.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 28 Jan 22 14:31
But you're attempt at twisting the analogy is falling apart.

If a dozen mates with good musical taste tell me a band is crap, and a dozen daughters with crap taste say they're good then I'm fairly sure I don't need to buy their back catalogue. It's not slavishly following one opinion, it's knowing that there are certain opinions I'm likely to agree and disagree with and I don't need to waste time investigating every single thing there is in this world.
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jan 22 14:35
If you're mates tell you the band is crap, that might be correct. But do you then take that conclusion as a fact, without checking them out for yourself? I get that you might decide not to buy their music, but surely you wouldn't simply take other peoples' opinions as fact?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 28 Jan 22 14:38
Why would I feel the need to check them out? There's lots of bands I do like. I know my taste by now and I know who shares it. Why would I want to Spotify Pitbull if every single thing I've heads about him tells me I won't like him. Why not just let him be and listen to something more in my wheelhouse.
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jan 22 14:38
That's a really weird approach. There are peoples' opinions I respect, and that may inform decisions, like what movie to watch at the cinema. But I'll still view the film with an open mind, and decide for myself whether I like it or not. Other peoples' opinions inform my choices, but not my opinions.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 28 Jan 22 14:39
Jesus, you must spend a lot of time at the cinema
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jan 22 14:45
No, if they recommend a movie it's more likely that's the one I pick. But if it's sh1t, I'll say it is sh1t. I can think of one example, The Greatest Showman. It got panned in the media and a couple of my buddies hated it. But I thought it was very decent for what it was. I'm not scared to state I liked it, even though my peers didn't. Knock Knock would be another like that.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 28 Jan 22 14:49
Good for you
By:
edy
When: 28 Jan 22 15:05
For being independent opinion formers, the free opinion formers often have fascinatingly similar completely deranged thoughts.
By:
Cider
When: 28 Jan 22 15:10
You are easily fascinated, edy.
By:
edy
When: 28 Jan 22 15:11
You are easily impressed by people who tell you there are marxists everywhere, out to ruin your life.
By:
edy
When: 28 Jan 22 15:12
Though of course that does not inform your opinion. You just see the marxists and their actions all by yourself all the time and inform your opinion entirely independently.
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