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A BOURNEMOUTH solicitor has reportedly died with Covid after refusing to get the vaccine.
It has been reported that Leslie Lawrenson, 58, died at his home address in Bournemouth in July 2.
His partner, Amanda, told the BBC he made a “terrible mistake” and thought the vaccine was too “experimental”.
She said: “I feel incredibly foolish. Les died unnecessarily.
“It was a daily thing that he said to us: 'You don't need to have it, you'll be fine, just be careful.'
"He said to me: 'It's a gene thing, an experimental thing. You're putting something in your body that hasn't been thoroughly tested.'
"Les was highly educated, so if he told me something, I tended to believe it."
Ms Mitchell was also reportedly seriously ill with the virus and said her partner appeared to be recovering from Covid-related pneumonia until their son found him dead in bed.
She added: "Les made a terrible mistake and he's paid the ultimate price for that."
Daughter Carla Hodges told the BBC: “[Leslie] was so brainwashed by the stuff that he was seeing on YouTube and social media.
"He said: 'A lot of people will die more from having the vaccine than getting Covid.'"
It has been reported that Leslie Lawrenson, 58, died at his home address in Bournemouth in July 2.
His partner, Amanda, told the BBC he made a “terrible mistake” and thought the vaccine was too “experimental”.
She said: “I feel incredibly foolish. Les died unnecessarily.
“It was a daily thing that he said to us: 'You don't need to have it, you'll be fine, just be careful.'
"He said to me: 'It's a gene thing, an experimental thing. You're putting something in your body that hasn't been thoroughly tested.'
"Les was highly educated, so if he told me something, I tended to believe it."
Ms Mitchell was also reportedly seriously ill with the virus and said her partner appeared to be recovering from Covid-related pneumonia until their son found him dead in bed.
She added: "Les made a terrible mistake and he's paid the ultimate price for that."
Daughter Carla Hodges told the BBC: “[Leslie] was so brainwashed by the stuff that he was seeing on YouTube and social media.
"He said: 'A lot of people will die more from having the vaccine than getting Covid.'"
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leif do you believe the moon-landings were faked?
Do you believe Lara is real or just another of your faked IDs?
Do you believe Lara is real or just another of your faked IDs?
leif do you believe the moon-landings were faked?
Do you believe Lara is real or just another of your faked IDs?
along with Politics Punter. M_Fordy, Johngrace, ascotboy, Veritas1 et al
Do you believe Lara is real or just another of your faked IDs?
along with Politics Punter. M_Fordy, Johngrace, ascotboy, Veritas1 et al
Someone needs to tell Larabrown and timbuctooth that ` is not a valid replacement for '.
I am an active woman in her 30
Army of doctors\nurses
I'm sure gender reassignment surgery was mentioned
Pure gold
Army of doctors\nurses
I'm sure gender reassignment surgery was mentioned
Pure gold
Over 93 million UK vaccinations given now.
Latest UK aged 16 and over vaccination figures..
1st dose 89.4%
2nd dose 81.7%
Latest UK aged 16 and over vaccination figures..
1st dose 89.4%
2nd dose 81.7%
Hey Politicspunter.
Is John Gracey a digital head or real in your opinion?
Is John Gracey a digital head or real in your opinion?
"most of the daily deaths are being reported in states mainly in the South such as Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Texas etc but certainly considered rural in relation to major cities. They are nearly all GOP run and filled with Trump supporting non vaxxer conspiracy theorists who refuse to be vaccinated under any circumstances and who are flooding hospitals that are struggling to cope. "
also full of black people you insufferable fool
the states with the highest % of african americans are precisely the former plantation states you mentioned, it is the only part of america where black people live in rural areas
plenty of latinos in texas too
also full of black people you insufferable fool
the states with the highest % of african americans are precisely the former plantation states you mentioned, it is the only part of america where black people live in rural areas
plenty of latinos in texas too
Another post deleted, so let me try again, purely quoting from undeleted ones; surely that`ll be ok?
A_T 19 Sep 21 14:55
Veronica Wolski, ... is currently hospitalized with COVID-19. Her supporters say that she had finally convinced doctors to treat her with Ivermectin, ... but was then informed the hospital system wouldn’t allow it... that Wolski would not be receiving Ivermectin.
A_T 19 Sep 21 14:47
Veronica Wolski, ... has died
A_T 19 Sep 21 14:55
Veronica Wolski, ... is currently hospitalized with COVID-19. Her supporters say that she had finally convinced doctors to treat her with Ivermectin, ... but was then informed the hospital system wouldn’t allow it... that Wolski would not be receiving Ivermectin.
A_T 19 Sep 21 14:47
Veronica Wolski, ... has died
AT/PP et al is a proven liar.Anything he posts are lies.
Hey Politicspunter.
Is John Gracey a digital head or real in your opinion?
Is John Gracey a digital head or real in your opinion?
Gotta CHORTLE at the repeated shows of ignorance from the different usernames, each with the racist insinuation that `unvaxed` equates to `fully signed up for the KKK` Does that poster not know that;
dems instigated a civil war, primarily to protect slavery; Reps opposed them
dems founded, funded and ran the KKK; Reps opposed them
dems fought against the 1964 Civil Rights Act; Reps opposed them
Yes, I know such uncomfortable facts don`t fit the long-twisted narrative, but check it out for yourself, it`s all true
dems instigated a civil war, primarily to protect slavery; Reps opposed them
dems founded, funded and ran the KKK; Reps opposed them
dems fought against the 1964 Civil Rights Act; Reps opposed them
Yes, I know such uncomfortable facts don`t fit the long-twisted narrative, but check it out for yourself, it`s all true
timbuctooth do you mean true like the link you posted to a site than said Biden was withholding healthcare from veterans? The site was a spoof and you didn't even realise it 
leif do you believe the moon-landings were faked?
he doesn't seem to want to answer. you know I think we have another moon-landigs denier in our midst
he doesn't seem to want to answer. you know I think we have another moon-landigs denier in our midst
Politicsmunter and his aliases A_t, john Gracey (digital head), veritas1, Ascotboy outed on his own thread
offered no defence. I rest my case me lord
offered no defence. I rest my case me lord
'Misinformation killed her': Bride-to-be who hesitated to get vaccinated dies of Covid
Samantha Wendell could not wait for her wedding this summer. For nearly two years, the 29-year-old surgical technician had been meticulously planning every detail, from the seating chart to the Tiffany blue floral arrangements, her fiancé, Austin Eskew, said.
Wendell and Eskew wanted to start a family as soon as they got married, Eskew, a correctional sergeant, said. The couple, of Grand Rivers, Kentucky, hoped to eventually have three, maybe four, children.
So when the Covid-19 vaccines came out, and some of Wendell’s co-workers said the shots caused infertility — an unfounded claim that has gained ground despite top reproductive health groups refuting it — she “just kind of panicked,” Eskew, 29, said.
Wendell decided they should hold off on their vaccinations. It was a choice that cost her her life: Instead of attending her wedding, which was supposed to be on Aug. 21, her family is now planning her funeral.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/misinformation-killed-her-bride-be-who-hesitated-get-vaccinated-dies-n1279263
Samantha Wendell could not wait for her wedding this summer. For nearly two years, the 29-year-old surgical technician had been meticulously planning every detail, from the seating chart to the Tiffany blue floral arrangements, her fiancé, Austin Eskew, said.
Wendell and Eskew wanted to start a family as soon as they got married, Eskew, a correctional sergeant, said. The couple, of Grand Rivers, Kentucky, hoped to eventually have three, maybe four, children.
So when the Covid-19 vaccines came out, and some of Wendell’s co-workers said the shots caused infertility — an unfounded claim that has gained ground despite top reproductive health groups refuting it — she “just kind of panicked,” Eskew, 29, said.
Wendell decided they should hold off on their vaccinations. It was a choice that cost her her life: Instead of attending her wedding, which was supposed to be on Aug. 21, her family is now planning her funeral.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/misinformation-killed-her-bride-be-who-hesitated-get-vaccinated-dies-n1279263
a 29 year old dying from covid
statistically that is very rare
the fact you would post an article like that and not seek further details shows how you don't have a thorough understanding of covid
statistically that is very rare
the fact you would post an article like that and not seek further details shows how you don't have a thorough understanding of covid
Mother-of-four who proudly posted that she was 'unmasked, unmuzzled, and unvaccinated' dies of COVID-19 at age 40
A California mother-of-four who was outspoken against vaccines and masks has died of COVID-19.
Kristen Lowery, 40, from Escalon, California, 'unexpectedly' passed away on September 15th, according to a GoFundMe page raising money for her funeral expenses.
In screenshots taken from Facebook, family members say she lost her battle against COVID-19 — after frequently posting content protesting vaccines and labeling herself 'unmasked and unmuzzled' and a 'free thinker.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10009793/Mother-four-unmasked-unmuzzled-unvaccinated-dies-COVID-19-age-40.html
A California mother-of-four who was outspoken against vaccines and masks has died of COVID-19.
Kristen Lowery, 40, from Escalon, California, 'unexpectedly' passed away on September 15th, according to a GoFundMe page raising money for her funeral expenses.
In screenshots taken from Facebook, family members say she lost her battle against COVID-19 — after frequently posting content protesting vaccines and labeling herself 'unmasked and unmuzzled' and a 'free thinker.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10009793/Mother-four-unmasked-unmuzzled-unvaccinated-dies-COVID-19-age-40.html
a 40 year old dying from covid
that doesn't happen very often
i wonder did she have any comorbidities? and why they weren't mentioned in the article?
that doesn't happen very often
i wonder did she have any comorbidities? and why they weren't mentioned in the article?
i wonder did she have any comorbidities? and why they weren't mentioned in the article?
perhaps because she didn't have any? she certainly didn't get vaccinated or wear a mask. sadly her days as a "free thinker" have come to an end
perhaps because she didn't have any? she certainly didn't get vaccinated or wear a mask. sadly her days as a "free thinker" have come to an end
it is very unusual for an otherwise healthy 40 year old to die from covid
the fact you don't know that says a lot about how covid is being reported in teh media
the fact you don't know that says a lot about how covid is being reported in teh media
COVID patient who left Donegal hospital with anti-vaxxer's help has died
Joe McCarron, 75, who was featured in a video being removed from Letterkenny University Hospital against the advice of his doctors, has passed away.
McCarron's funeral is set to be held in his native Dungloe, Co Donegal this Sunday, according to an announcement shared on RIP.ie on Friday afternoon.
Video of McCarron leaving Letterkenny University Hospital with the help of Antonio Mureddu Gravegliu began to circulate on social media on September 14.
"We are saving Joe's life," Gravegliu says in the video. "Today is a winning day for Ireland." He goes on to thank Dr. Dolores Cahill, a prominent figure in Ireland’s anti-vaccination movement.
A doctor pleads with McCarron in the video to stay in the hospital: “You have the right to decide what you want to do.
“You’re barely able to breathe,” the doctor says. “We want you to stay to help you.”
Gravegliu, who was wearing a mask under his chin, tells McCarron, “If you stay here, they going to f***ing kill you, Joe.”
“I’m very worried about you,” the doctor tells McCarron who appears to be struggling to breathe in the video. “I want you to stay, I think he is saying something very dangerous. What he is saying is wrong and very dangerous.” He added: “I’m not lying to you, you could die.”
“It’s better if you die in the house,” Gravegliu tells Joe.
Two days after leaving Letterkenny Hospital, McCarron was brought by ambulance back to the hospital with breathing problems and was admitted for care.
Upon McCarron being readmitted to the hospital, his family issued a statement which said: "Joe is still in a critical but stable condition. He has serious lung damage from Covid-19 and is on a ventilator, but the signs are good.”
It added: "Una (Joe's wife) would like to thank the staff and apologise for the actions of Joe’s so-called reckless friends earlier in the week.
"They did not help Joe’s recovery in any way. We would encourage everyone to follow proper medical advice."
Taoiseach Micheál Martin condemned the incident, saying: “If you get it (Covid-19), you should treat it as very serious.
“Certainly, it is outrageous that anyone would, in an ill-informed way, be advising people to leave hospital. It endangers that person’s health.”
A spokesperson for The Saolta Hospital Group, which oversees Letterkenny Hospital, said: "Saolta has grave concerns about the impact of this type of activity on both patients and staff.
"Patient safety and care is of paramount importance to the group. Hospitals across the region are under extreme pressure as a result of record levels of attendances of both Covid and non-Covid patients.
"The deliberate spreading of dis-information and at times defamatory comments against named staff members along with the posting of these videos on social media platforms is adding significantly to the burden already facing healthcare professionals."
https://www.irishcentral.com/news/joe-mccarron-covid-donegal
Joe McCarron, 75, who was featured in a video being removed from Letterkenny University Hospital against the advice of his doctors, has passed away.
McCarron's funeral is set to be held in his native Dungloe, Co Donegal this Sunday, according to an announcement shared on RIP.ie on Friday afternoon.
Video of McCarron leaving Letterkenny University Hospital with the help of Antonio Mureddu Gravegliu began to circulate on social media on September 14.
"We are saving Joe's life," Gravegliu says in the video. "Today is a winning day for Ireland." He goes on to thank Dr. Dolores Cahill, a prominent figure in Ireland’s anti-vaccination movement.
A doctor pleads with McCarron in the video to stay in the hospital: “You have the right to decide what you want to do.
“You’re barely able to breathe,” the doctor says. “We want you to stay to help you.”
Gravegliu, who was wearing a mask under his chin, tells McCarron, “If you stay here, they going to f***ing kill you, Joe.”
“I’m very worried about you,” the doctor tells McCarron who appears to be struggling to breathe in the video. “I want you to stay, I think he is saying something very dangerous. What he is saying is wrong and very dangerous.” He added: “I’m not lying to you, you could die.”
“It’s better if you die in the house,” Gravegliu tells Joe.
Two days after leaving Letterkenny Hospital, McCarron was brought by ambulance back to the hospital with breathing problems and was admitted for care.
Upon McCarron being readmitted to the hospital, his family issued a statement which said: "Joe is still in a critical but stable condition. He has serious lung damage from Covid-19 and is on a ventilator, but the signs are good.”
It added: "Una (Joe's wife) would like to thank the staff and apologise for the actions of Joe’s so-called reckless friends earlier in the week.
"They did not help Joe’s recovery in any way. We would encourage everyone to follow proper medical advice."
Taoiseach Micheál Martin condemned the incident, saying: “If you get it (Covid-19), you should treat it as very serious.
“Certainly, it is outrageous that anyone would, in an ill-informed way, be advising people to leave hospital. It endangers that person’s health.”
A spokesperson for The Saolta Hospital Group, which oversees Letterkenny Hospital, said: "Saolta has grave concerns about the impact of this type of activity on both patients and staff.
"Patient safety and care is of paramount importance to the group. Hospitals across the region are under extreme pressure as a result of record levels of attendances of both Covid and non-Covid patients.
"The deliberate spreading of dis-information and at times defamatory comments against named staff members along with the posting of these videos on social media platforms is adding significantly to the burden already facing healthcare professionals."
https://www.irishcentral.com/news/joe-mccarron-covid-donegal
By the way Taoiseach Micheál Martin is a lame duck .. Would sell his granny for a bit of limelight
Could be the most useless EVER
Could be the most useless EVER
Anti-vaxxer page three girl Holly McGuire, 43, reveals she nearly died twice from Covid as she says she was wrong to refuse jabs and tells others to get vaccinated
A former page three girl who refused to get the coronavirus vaccine has revealed how she caught Covid and was so sick she nearly died twice.
Glamour model Holly McGuire, 43, originally from Grays in Essex, and now lives in Marbella, Spain, said she was wrong to refuse the jab and is now urging others to get vaccinated.
The self-confessed 'anti-vaxxer' tested positive for the virus on July 10, admitting it hit her 'like a truck' and she was given just a 15 per cent chance of survival.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10028125/Anti-vaxxer-page-three-girl-Holly-McGuire-reveals-nearly-died-twice-Covid.html
A former page three girl who refused to get the coronavirus vaccine has revealed how she caught Covid and was so sick she nearly died twice.
Glamour model Holly McGuire, 43, originally from Grays in Essex, and now lives in Marbella, Spain, said she was wrong to refuse the jab and is now urging others to get vaccinated.
The self-confessed 'anti-vaxxer' tested positive for the virus on July 10, admitting it hit her 'like a truck' and she was given just a 15 per cent chance of survival.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10028125/Anti-vaxxer-page-three-girl-Holly-McGuire-reveals-nearly-died-twice-Covid.html
Vaccinated couple die of Covid-19 holding hands
A fully vaccinated Michigan couple died from COVID-19, one minute apart and holding hands.
Cal Dunham, 59, and his wife Linda, 66, had pre-existing health conditions and contracted COVID-19 during a camping trip, Fox 17 reported.
https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/574337-vaccinated-couple-die-of-covid-19-holding-hands
A fully vaccinated Michigan couple died from COVID-19, one minute apart and holding hands.
Cal Dunham, 59, and his wife Linda, 66, had pre-existing health conditions and contracted COVID-19 during a camping trip, Fox 17 reported.
https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/574337-vaccinated-couple-die-of-covid-19-holding-hands
could you imagine if there was a Aids/HIV vaccine back in the eighties, only to be told you could still get it, after you’ve been humping like a rabbit in the past two weeks.
elsewhere it's noted that a Gofundmepage has been set up on their behalf.
Why ffs?
at their stage of life they must have had life insurance you'd expect.
unclear as to whether they'd receive a booster jab.
Jibjab was supposed to protect the vulnerable
Why ffs?
at their stage of life they must have had life insurance you'd expect.
unclear as to whether they'd receive a booster jab.
Jibjab was supposed to protect the vulnerable
Anti-vaxxer young mum, 24, ‘who was hooked on conspiracy theories’ dies of Covid after admitting not getting jab was the ‘worst mistake of her life’
An anti-vaxxer mother whose family has said was hooked on conspiracy theories has died after admitting not getting the jab was the worst mistake of her life.
Now, the heartbroken family of 24-year-old Abby Gibbs, who passed away following an almost three-week battle in intensive care, are now urging people to get their Covid vaccine.
Abby's mother, Lynne Gibbs and brother, Lewis Gibbs described how the mother-of-three, of Brandon, County Durham, had left a mark on everybody she met.
Ms Gibbs, who described Abby as her 'best friend,' said she had been known among everyone for her humour and loyalty to her loved ones.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10051945/Anti-vaxxer-young-mum-24-hooked-conspiracy-theories-dies-Covid.html
An anti-vaxxer mother whose family has said was hooked on conspiracy theories has died after admitting not getting the jab was the worst mistake of her life.
Now, the heartbroken family of 24-year-old Abby Gibbs, who passed away following an almost three-week battle in intensive care, are now urging people to get their Covid vaccine.
Abby's mother, Lynne Gibbs and brother, Lewis Gibbs described how the mother-of-three, of Brandon, County Durham, had left a mark on everybody she met.
Ms Gibbs, who described Abby as her 'best friend,' said she had been known among everyone for her humour and loyalty to her loved ones.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10051945/Anti-vaxxer-young-mum-24-hooked-conspiracy-theories-dies-Covid.html
If only she had been vaccinated, she would still be with us.
If only she'd have eaten a few less pizzas
We'll never know
We'll never know
Explaining that her kids were Abby’s whole world, but that she also cared immensely for others, Mr Lewis said that in the days leading up her death, she had ordered clothes to give as a gift to a friend who had not yet given birth.
He said: “She had even ordered clothes for one of her friend’s kids who has not yet been born.
“At Christmas time, she would even go online and go on this website to help parents without much money and she would buy and send the toys to the kids.
“It just goes to show how (much) she loved her kids, and everyone else’s kids.”
Abby was admitted into intensive care at the University Hospital of North Durham, where she spent 17 days battling the virus, after falling seriously ill with Covid at the start of last month.
Ms Gibbs said: “Abby was supposed to go the same day as me to have her vaccine, but she was that hooked on conspiracy theories, she decided not to go.
'She said make sure you look after the kids'
“The first day she was admitted, she said ‘mam, I wish I had gone and got the vaccine – this is the worst mistake I have ever made'.”
Only able to communicate with her children and family using Facetime, Ms Gibbs said Abby continued to provide for her family for as long as she could, even as her situation worsened.
She said: “She was in intensive care and she ordered online a full shop, with clothes – she was arranging stuff for the kids.”
Explaining that her children had been at the forefront of her mind, Mr Lewis added: “I was the last person she spoke to, and she said make sure you look after the kids – make sure they can have the best life they can.”
Abby passed away in the same hospital she had been admitted to on Wednesday, September 22.
But in a huge torrent of support for her children and family, scores of people gathered for a balloon release in memory of Abby, last Sunday.
More than 150 people had arranged to set free the balloons, including a balloon with a handwritten letter from her children, in Brandon.
He said: “She had even ordered clothes for one of her friend’s kids who has not yet been born.
“At Christmas time, she would even go online and go on this website to help parents without much money and she would buy and send the toys to the kids.
“It just goes to show how (much) she loved her kids, and everyone else’s kids.”
Abby was admitted into intensive care at the University Hospital of North Durham, where she spent 17 days battling the virus, after falling seriously ill with Covid at the start of last month.
Ms Gibbs said: “Abby was supposed to go the same day as me to have her vaccine, but she was that hooked on conspiracy theories, she decided not to go.
'She said make sure you look after the kids'
“The first day she was admitted, she said ‘mam, I wish I had gone and got the vaccine – this is the worst mistake I have ever made'.”
Only able to communicate with her children and family using Facetime, Ms Gibbs said Abby continued to provide for her family for as long as she could, even as her situation worsened.
She said: “She was in intensive care and she ordered online a full shop, with clothes – she was arranging stuff for the kids.”
Explaining that her children had been at the forefront of her mind, Mr Lewis added: “I was the last person she spoke to, and she said make sure you look after the kids – make sure they can have the best life they can.”
Abby passed away in the same hospital she had been admitted to on Wednesday, September 22.
But in a huge torrent of support for her children and family, scores of people gathered for a balloon release in memory of Abby, last Sunday.
More than 150 people had arranged to set free the balloons, including a balloon with a handwritten letter from her children, in Brandon.
If only she had been vaccinated, she would still be with us. --- and the 13000 that have died after being vaccinated would have still been with us if they hadn't
some good news
YouTube Bans Videos With Vaccine Misinformation, Suspends Anti-Vaxxers Including Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/youtube-bans-videos-anti-vaccine-143829153.html
YouTube Bans Videos With Vaccine Misinformation, Suspends Anti-Vaxxers Including Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/youtube-bans-videos-anti-vaccine-143829153.html
Yep, censorship is always good news. Back in the day all those people that were arguing against the science that smoking wasn't harmful got censored as well.
As far as I know science never claimed smoking stopped you being killed by a virus
It did claim smoking was safe. Lung cancer v's virus. Yeah your probably right, no biggy!!
https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/throwback-thursday-when-doctors-prescribed-healthy-cigarette-brands-165404/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3490543/
https://www.healio.com/news/hematology-oncology/20120325/cigarettes-were-once-physician-tested-approved
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3490543/
https://www.healio.com/news/hematology-oncology/20120325/cigarettes-were-once-physician-tested-approved
that second link is a good one truehoncho
"Confronted by compelling peer-reviewed scientific evidence of the harms of smoking, the tobacco industry, beginning in the 1950s, used sophisticated public relations approaches to undermine and distort the emerging science.
The industry campaign worked to create a scientific controversy through a program that depended on the creation of industry–academic conflicts of interest. This strategy of producing scientific uncertainty undercut public health efforts and regulatory interventions designed to reduce the harms of smoking.
A number of industries have subsequently followed this approach to disrupting normative science. Claims of scientific uncertainty and lack of proof also lead to the assertion of individual responsibility for industrially produced health risks."
"Confronted by compelling peer-reviewed scientific evidence of the harms of smoking, the tobacco industry, beginning in the 1950s, used sophisticated public relations approaches to undermine and distort the emerging science.
The industry campaign worked to create a scientific controversy through a program that depended on the creation of industry–academic conflicts of interest. This strategy of producing scientific uncertainty undercut public health efforts and regulatory interventions designed to reduce the harms of smoking.
A number of industries have subsequently followed this approach to disrupting normative science. Claims of scientific uncertainty and lack of proof also lead to the assertion of individual responsibility for industrially produced health risks."
can you provide links to compelling peer-reviewed scientific evidence of the harms of the COVID vaccine?
it's not normal for a 24 year old to die from from covid
can we have more details please?
if a healthy 24 year old died from covid that is about a 1 in 100,000 chance
can we have more details please?
if a healthy 24 year old died from covid that is about a 1 in 100,000 chance
Didn't science come up with a vaccine against H1N1 that they pushed heavily onto women and children ?
Spectacular failure and many lies
People here seem to have no problem believing a constantly lying government and a dollar hungry pharma industry
MADNESS
Spectacular failure and many lies
People here seem to have no problem believing a constantly lying government and a dollar hungry pharma industry
MADNESS
You take the blue pill – the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe
most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.
Amen
most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.
Amen
Oct 2, 2021 -- 11:10AM, clouded leopard wrote:
Didn't science come up with a vaccine against H1N1 that they pushed heavily onto women and children ?Spectacular failure and many liesPeople here seem to have no problem believing a constantly lying government and a dollar hungry pharma industryMADNESS
Is there anything, anything at all, that you don't have a conspiracy theory about?
Moderna Vaccine Recall Over Stainless Steel Contamination Caused by 'Human error " 5 confirmed dead
You can't beat natural immunity EVER
Alice Cooper - Poison
You can't beat natural immunity EVER
Alice Cooper - Poison
, clouded leopard wrote:
Didn't science come up with a vaccine against H1N1 that they pushed heavily onto women and children ?Spectacular failure and many liesPeople here seem to have no problem believing a constantly lying government and a dollar hungry pharma industryMADNESS
Is there anything, anything at all, that you don't have a conspiracy theory about?
check your history
you make yourself look dim
Didn't science come up with a vaccine against H1N1 that they pushed heavily onto women and children ?Spectacular failure and many liesPeople here seem to have no problem believing a constantly lying government and a dollar hungry pharma industryMADNESS
Is there anything, anything at all, that you don't have a conspiracy theory about?
check your history
you make yourself look dim
It's the new "buzz word " along with anti wax
Oct 2, 2021 -- 11:44AM, clouded leopard wrote:
, clouded leopard wrote:Didn't science come up with a vaccine against H1N1 that they pushed heavily onto women and children ?Spectacular failure and many liesPeople here seem to have no problem believing a constantly lying government and a dollar hungry pharma industryMADNESSIs there anything, anything at all, that you don't have a conspiracy theory about?check your historyyou make yourself look dim
What conspiracy theory do you think I believe in?
an you provide links to compelling peer-reviewed scientific evidence of the harms of the COVID vaccine? -- I never suggested there were. I said censorship (which was effectively happening at the turn of the century with industry combining with doctors to hide the harmful effects of smoking) is a bad thing. I don't know what Kennedy said (and I don't care) but if censorship is condoned then the truth will be suppressed as well as the lies. It seems to me whatever he was saying, if its not true then it should be easily debunked.
I never suggested there were.
I'm glad you agree there is no compelling peer-reviewed scientific evidence of the harms of the COVID vaccine
I'm glad you agree there is no compelling peer-reviewed scientific evidence of the harms of the COVID vaccine
I absolutely agree 100%, no doubt about it. However if there was any that come to light in the future I don't want it suppressed, hence my preference for free speech and no censorship.
Centralization of power/wealth/knowledge is what you are witnessing these days
How anyone can argue that's for the better is delusional
How anyone can argue that's for the better is delusional
However if there was any that come to light in the future I don't want it suppressed,
how would you know if it was being suppressed?
how would you know if it was being suppressed?
Well I clearly wouldn't if we engaged in censorship!! Are you following the thread A_T? Has it been a long day mate??
Tens of Thousands rally in Romania against coronavirus restrictions
Welcome to the party Romania
Welcome to the party Romania
Has anyone under 40 who isn't morbidly obese with no health issues died of covid? Whenever news of a young person dying/with of covid arrives, it never looks like an individual in the picture of health with a BMI below 35
Has anyone under 40 who isn't morbidly obese with no health issues died of covid?
Yes quite a few from the jab
Yes quite a few from the jab
78% of covid patients in US hospitals are obese
95% of covid deaths in Ireland had at least one underlying condition
based on excess death figures from Ireland half of the people dying from covid would ahve died within a year even without covid
95% of covid deaths in Ireland had at least one underlying condition
based on excess death figures from Ireland half of the people dying from covid would ahve died within a year even without covid
Now they droppin' and yellin', it's a tad bit late .. Natural immunity has to regulate
Let the sh1t show continue
Switzerland decides to pay 50 euro to
Recommend jabbing a friend of foe
Let the sh1t show continue
Switzerland decides to pay 50 euro to
Recommend jabbing a friend of foe
Well I was surprised that no one ever suggested that you could only claim the furlough if you were vaccinated. I felt sure at some point it would get put forward. Too late now.
95% of covid deaths in Ireland had at least one underlying condition
2\3_due to care homes, hse incompetence, mrsa, pneumonia, cancer ECT
TONES AND I - DANCE MONKEY
T..cells
2\3_due to care homes, hse incompetence, mrsa, pneumonia, cancer ECT
TONES AND I - DANCE MONKEY
T..cells
Will ya all be taking the 40odd Merck pills
"compelling results" in a clinical trial
"compelling results" in a clinical trial
Merck Sponsored by
The Notorious B.I.G. - Mo Money Mo Problems
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Well I clearly wouldn't if we engaged in censorship!! Are you following the thread A_T? Has it been a long day mate??
explain the process for suppressing knowledge of any harms of the COVID vaccine
explain the process for suppressing knowledge of any harms of the COVID vaccine
The new merck pill? In effect, Ivermectin, but with just enough of a subtle twist to beat the patent, probably including zinc. Don`t forget, Ivermectin`s a merck drug, they lost out on the vax twaddle, it`s their turn now.
Anti-vaxxer killed pharmacist brother and sister-in-law for ‘killing people’ with the Covid shot
A Maryland man allegedly killed his pharmacist brother and sister-in-law because they were "killing people with the Covid shot".
Jeffrey Allen Burnham, 46, shot dead his 58-year-old brother Brian Robinette and sister-in-law Kelly Sue Robinette (57) last week in their Ellicott City home, the Howard County police said.
According to the arrest documents, Mr Burnham told another unnamed person that his brother was “killing people with the Covid shot.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/maryland-anti-vaxxer-kills-pharmacists-b1933825.html
A Maryland man allegedly killed his pharmacist brother and sister-in-law because they were "killing people with the Covid shot".
Jeffrey Allen Burnham, 46, shot dead his 58-year-old brother Brian Robinette and sister-in-law Kelly Sue Robinette (57) last week in their Ellicott City home, the Howard County police said.
According to the arrest documents, Mr Burnham told another unnamed person that his brother was “killing people with the Covid shot.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/maryland-anti-vaxxer-kills-pharmacists-b1933825.html
Iceland will no longer administer Moderna’s mRNA Covid-19 vaccine,along with sewden,Denmark ect..
chief epidemiologist citing the risk of rare heart inflammations seen in other Nordic countries is to high
chief epidemiologist citing the risk of rare heart inflammations seen in other Nordic countries is to high
Anti-vaxxers ‘show pupils photos of dead children’ at school gates
A group of anti-vaxxers who ‘ambushed’ terrified schoolkids and showed them pictures of dead children are being hunted by police.
Around seven protesters swarmed the gates of St Thomas More Catholic School in Blaydon, Tyne and Wear, as it started vaccinating pupils aged 12 to 15.
One anti-vaxxer used a loud speaker to spout conspiracy theories, while the rest handed out leaflets showing graphic images of disfigured children to put the pupils off the Covid jab.
Officers attended the school at 8.40am on Monday after getting dozens of calls from concerned parents, but the protesters had already fled.
https://metro.co.uk/2021/10/05/anti-vaxxers-show-pupils-photos-of-dead-children-at-school-gates-15370317/
A group of anti-vaxxers who ‘ambushed’ terrified schoolkids and showed them pictures of dead children are being hunted by police.
Around seven protesters swarmed the gates of St Thomas More Catholic School in Blaydon, Tyne and Wear, as it started vaccinating pupils aged 12 to 15.
One anti-vaxxer used a loud speaker to spout conspiracy theories, while the rest handed out leaflets showing graphic images of disfigured children to put the pupils off the Covid jab.
Officers attended the school at 8.40am on Monday after getting dozens of calls from concerned parents, but the protesters had already fled.
https://metro.co.uk/2021/10/05/anti-vaxxers-show-pupils-photos-of-dead-children-at-school-gates-15370317/
The U.K. faces a pilot shortage 
People are “twice as likely to die” from having both Covid-19 and influenza, compared with just having the coronavirus, a British health official said.
U.K. Health Security Agency, told Sky News the country’s at risk of “multi-strain flu” this year as last winter’s virus levels -- when much of the country was locked down or practicing social distancing -- were low, meaning lower immunity
No sh1t Sherlock .. Lock it down
American cash in on kids $$$
Kids in the 5-11 age group can get a vaccine as soon as the first week of November. Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE said Thursday
We want the the womb .. Another tick
All to Eazy-E - Real Muthaphuckkin G's
People are “twice as likely to die” from having both Covid-19 and influenza, compared with just having the coronavirus, a British health official said.
U.K. Health Security Agency, told Sky News the country’s at risk of “multi-strain flu” this year as last winter’s virus levels -- when much of the country was locked down or practicing social distancing -- were low, meaning lower immunity
No sh1t Sherlock .. Lock it down
American cash in on kids $$$
Kids in the 5-11 age group can get a vaccine as soon as the first week of November. Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE said Thursday
We want the the womb .. Another tick
All to Eazy-E - Real Muthaphuckkin G's
they are now starting with this flu shight
NHS could soon be on the brink of collapse etc.
NHS could soon be on the brink of collapse etc.
Anti-vaxxer dies after posting harrowing Facebook live video
A man who refused a Covid vaccination has died after posting a harrowing live video to Facebook of himself being intubated.
Mike Jonesbatch from Colorado posted an update before he passed away, admitting the deadly virus was about to kill him and people need to get vaccinated.
"This is what covid is doing! " he wrote, alongside a 28-minute long video of himself struggling to breathe in the hospital.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/anti-vaxxer-dies-posting-harrowing-facebook-live-video-035237386.html
A man who refused a Covid vaccination has died after posting a harrowing live video to Facebook of himself being intubated.
Mike Jonesbatch from Colorado posted an update before he passed away, admitting the deadly virus was about to kill him and people need to get vaccinated.
"This is what covid is doing! " he wrote, alongside a 28-minute long video of himself struggling to breathe in the hospital.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/anti-vaxxer-dies-posting-harrowing-facebook-live-video-035237386.html
not another one
when will these anti-vaxxer idiots learn
when will these anti-vaxxer idiots learn
Flat Earth theorist, anti-vaxxer Rob Skiba dies from COVID: report
Rob Skiba — said to have come home from a Christian-centric Take On The World conference in August not feeling well — was also a COVID vaccine skeptic, the Daily Beast reports. It was from that conference he allegedly posted a message on Facebook noting that “within I’d say 2 to 3 years or so” we’ll know whether vaccines were a solution or a problem.
“Truly, I take no joy in saying this, nor will I if I’m the one still standing,” he wrote.
CrooksAndLiars.com unearthed video of Skiba preaching opposition to flu vaccine mandates in 2012, referring to inoculations as “the mark of the beast.” He was referencing the Biblical book of Revelations. His sermon from nearly a decade ago portended right-wing ideology today.
https://www.aol.com/news/flat-earth-theorist-anti-vaxxer-190752842.html
Rob Skiba — said to have come home from a Christian-centric Take On The World conference in August not feeling well — was also a COVID vaccine skeptic, the Daily Beast reports. It was from that conference he allegedly posted a message on Facebook noting that “within I’d say 2 to 3 years or so” we’ll know whether vaccines were a solution or a problem.
“Truly, I take no joy in saying this, nor will I if I’m the one still standing,” he wrote.
CrooksAndLiars.com unearthed video of Skiba preaching opposition to flu vaccine mandates in 2012, referring to inoculations as “the mark of the beast.” He was referencing the Biblical book of Revelations. His sermon from nearly a decade ago portended right-wing ideology today.
https://www.aol.com/news/flat-earth-theorist-anti-vaxxer-190752842.html
How is joe Rogan doing , looks fine here
https://youtube.com/watch?v=k-vBYa7hMPk
https://youtube.com/watch?v=k-vBYa7hMPk
Thanks science
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IaT0WOwEag4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IaT0WOwEag4
My post from the intercept got deleted fast .
Ahwell
Ahwell
Αnti-vaxxer teacher dies of Covid-19; he had signed not to be intubated
Α 45-year-old music teacher died of Covid-19 complications in the hospital of Serres, northern Greece, on Wednesday. The father of three and his wife had signed hospital papers confirming that he did not wanted to be intubated should the doctors consider intubation due to his health deterioration.
The man was admitted with serious pulmonary problems to the General Hospital of Serres 12 days ago.
“The patient died of Covid-19 complications like emboly,” Theofilos Kallinikidis, in charge of the Covid-19 clinic of the hospital told state broadcaster ERT and denied that it was the signed document that hindered intubation thus leading to the patients’ death.
Kallinikikis added that had the doctors considered intubation they would have sought other [the legal] ways.
The teacher was reportedly against vaccination and skeptical about the risk posed by the coronavirus.
He was very active on social media and on his Facebook page he was posting against the use of masks and the schools closure, thus denying there was such a thing like the coronavirus or that vaccines were effective.
https://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2021/10/20/anti-vaxxer-teacher-dies-covid-19-intubation-serres/
Α 45-year-old music teacher died of Covid-19 complications in the hospital of Serres, northern Greece, on Wednesday. The father of three and his wife had signed hospital papers confirming that he did not wanted to be intubated should the doctors consider intubation due to his health deterioration.
The man was admitted with serious pulmonary problems to the General Hospital of Serres 12 days ago.
“The patient died of Covid-19 complications like emboly,” Theofilos Kallinikidis, in charge of the Covid-19 clinic of the hospital told state broadcaster ERT and denied that it was the signed document that hindered intubation thus leading to the patients’ death.
Kallinikikis added that had the doctors considered intubation they would have sought other [the legal] ways.
The teacher was reportedly against vaccination and skeptical about the risk posed by the coronavirus.
He was very active on social media and on his Facebook page he was posting against the use of masks and the schools closure, thus denying there was such a thing like the coronavirus or that vaccines were effective.
https://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2021/10/20/anti-vaxxer-teacher-dies-covid-19-intubation-serres/
A couple died of covid, leaving five children behind. A relative says people called their deaths ‘fake news.’
Two days after arriving at a Fredericksburg, Va., hospital with covid-19 in September, Misty Mitchem was put on a ventilator. Another two days later, she died.
Misty’s husband, Kevin Mitchem, got the news as he arrived at a separate hospital with an unshakable cough. He also had covid-19, and within a week or so he couldn’t breathe on his own, Kevin’s younger brother, Mike Mitchem, told The Washington Post.
Kevin died on Oct. 8, orphaning the four children he and Misty had raised together — and leaving behind a 22-year-old daughter from a previous relationship. But before he did, he expressed regret that he had not been immunized.
“His last words to my mom were, ‘Mom, I love you. I wish I would have got the shot,’ ” Mike Mitchem told The Post.
Neither Kevin, 48, nor Misty, 46, were vaccinated against the coronavirus, Mike Mitchem told The Post. He said the Stafford County couple had regularly taken in online misinformation about the virus and vaccines. “He liked to listen to different memes he would see — or different people saying … covid is not real.”
“I remember him telling me … ‘I ain’t ever going to get it. It ain’t going to happen to me,’ ” Mike Mitchem added.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/21/stafford-virginia-couple-die-covid-19/
Two days after arriving at a Fredericksburg, Va., hospital with covid-19 in September, Misty Mitchem was put on a ventilator. Another two days later, she died.
Misty’s husband, Kevin Mitchem, got the news as he arrived at a separate hospital with an unshakable cough. He also had covid-19, and within a week or so he couldn’t breathe on his own, Kevin’s younger brother, Mike Mitchem, told The Washington Post.
Kevin died on Oct. 8, orphaning the four children he and Misty had raised together — and leaving behind a 22-year-old daughter from a previous relationship. But before he did, he expressed regret that he had not been immunized.
“His last words to my mom were, ‘Mom, I love you. I wish I would have got the shot,’ ” Mike Mitchem told The Post.
Neither Kevin, 48, nor Misty, 46, were vaccinated against the coronavirus, Mike Mitchem told The Post. He said the Stafford County couple had regularly taken in online misinformation about the virus and vaccines. “He liked to listen to different memes he would see — or different people saying … covid is not real.”
“I remember him telling me … ‘I ain’t ever going to get it. It ain’t going to happen to me,’ ” Mike Mitchem added.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/21/stafford-virginia-couple-die-covid-19/
Oct 22, 2021 -- 11:24AM, A_T wrote:
A couple died of covid, leaving five children behind. A relative says people called their deaths ‘fake news.’Two days after arriving at a Fredericksburg, Va., hospital with covid-19 in September, Misty Mitchem was put on a ventilator. Another two days later, she died.Misty’s husband, Kevin Mitchem, got the news as he arrived at a separate hospital with an unshakable cough. He also had covid-19, and within a week or so he couldn’t breathe on his own, Kevin’s younger brother, Mike Mitchem, told The Washington Post.Kevin died on Oct. 8, orphaning the four children he and Misty had raised together — and leaving behind a 22-year-old daughter from a previous relationship. But before he did, he expressed regret that he had not been immunized.“His last words to my mom were, ‘Mom, I love you. I wish I would have got the shot,’ ” Mike Mitchem told The Post.Neither Kevin, 48, nor Misty, 46, were vaccinated against the coronavirus, Mike Mitchem told The Post. He said the Stafford County couple had regularly taken in online misinformation about the virus and vaccines. “He liked to listen to different memes he would see — or different people saying … covid is not real.”“I remember him telling me … ‘I ain’t ever going to get it. It ain’t going to happen to me,’ ” Mike Mitchem added.https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/21/stafford-virginia-couple-die-covid-19/
“His last words to my mom were, ‘Mom, I love you. I wish I would have got the shot,’ ” Mike Mitchem told The Post.
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