Jan 8, 2021 -- 6:25PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:
A simple estimate from you will do, using your judgement and what you know about death rates etc.No, it's utterly childish and beneath me. For one, you're deliberately confusing fear with risk. Understanding that a person is at serious risk of catching the virus is real, not cowardly.Now, I thought you had some serious points that no-one could counter. If this is the best you can do, can I suggest you get back to your GCSE mocks instead.
I can understand why you don't want to. That would mean acknowledging it is happening in large numbers. Beneath you
Jan 8, 2021 -- 6:29PM, Johnny The Guesser wrote:
Until the vaccine arrives.
So, for months potentially. You're happy locking away the elderly (more likely than not widowed) for months without visitors? That's your solution? The rest can go to the pub and whatnot but the price is poor Mrs Muggins is spending her 7th month indoors without having anyone in for a cuppa?
Jan 8, 2021 -- 6:34PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:
Jan 8, 2021 -- 7:29PM, Johnny The Guesser wrote:Until the vaccine arrives.So, for months potentially. You're happy locking away the elderly (more likely than not widowed) for months without visitors? That's your solution? The rest can go to the pub and whatnot but the price is poor Mrs Muggins is spending her 7th month indoors without having anyone in for a cuppa?
We either let the vulnerable shield if they wish or we lock everyone up.
You seem upset that the vulnerable would not be able to see anyone. At the moment no one can see anyone.
As the other poster said no good solutions but we will have more resources to protect the vulnerable if we those who want get out there and get on.
Jan 8, 2021 -- 6:37PM, Dotchinite wrote:
I think people just need to calm down a bit. Johnson is pretending this roll out is a tough target when clearly its no such thing and by mid Feb people making up the vast majority of the deaths will have been vaccinated. Theres a bit of a time lag as well but this is nearly done now.
This idea that after 1 jab people are 'vaccinated' is totally unscientific.
They may have a little bit of immunity from getting Covid badly for an unknown amount of time. There is no trials for the one jab policy. It is certainty not the silver bullet some people think it will be.
The situation will continue until society decides it is over and gets back out there. Covid is going no where.
Jan 8, 2021 -- 7:11PM, frog1000 wrote:
Jan 8, 2021 -- 7:34PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:Jan
Jan 8, 2021 -- 7:42PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:
The point is that if we all lock down then it is a shorter time for all. That way we can all be our and in some form of normality in spring, where kiddo there was talking about locking away the elderly for a year or so while others can go out partying.It's basically just a covid passport. If you're under the age of 40 you can live your life, but the elderly can only look on through their windows as the nights start to draw in again next autumn.
Shortest time! We have already done almost a year!
Jan 8, 2021 -- 9:25PM, Mexico wrote:
Yep 19The 20-39 year olds are the real victims here.The feelings of the millionals are not being considered. It should be number 1 priority to make sure Glastonbury happens this year.All those heartless people going on about 120,000 people losing their lives or 500,000 needing hospital treatment. Time for a big fund raising effort for those who are missing out on a trip to the nightclub.
You are asking for even tougher lockdown than we have now and the opposite of that is having hundreds of thousands at a concert?
There might be something in between where those that want to can stay home and the rest can social distance, wash hands and go to offices, pubs, restaurants and shops.
We have tried it your way of wearning masks and shuting down and it doesn't work.
Jan 8, 2021 -- 9:42PM, Mexico wrote:
FrogWhen we have social distancing then cases decrease,