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frog1000 When: 13 Dec 20 14:32

For England are the excess death figures bigger on the chart than 2017 and 2018 winters?

Hospital beds are less full than the five year average.

If you look at Scotland the figures this winter seem a lot lower than 2018.

Of course there is a long way to go but susceptible people can only die once.

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----you-have-to-laugh--- When: 13 Dec 20 14:52

And flu infections are mitigated by controls
imposed for covid.

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Fatslogger When: 13 Dec 20 17:57

Dec 13, 2020 -- 2:32PM, frog1000 wrote:

For England are the excess death figures bigger on the chart than 2017 and 2018 winters?Hospital beds are less full than the five year average.If you look at Scotland the figures this winter seem a lot lower than 2018.Of course there is a long way to go but susceptible people can only die once.

Do you like cherries? You pick a few. Overall autumn / winter deaths aren’t far beyond a bad but normal year for England but they are for the last few weeks, following on from when the SARS-CoV2 virus which you keep saying won’t kill many (more) people, really started surging again, in a way you had said it wouldn’t.

No, there isn’t an outlandish amount of excess death now, but there is excess death, despite the argument you almost certainly made first time around too about how many of the people who were due to die already had. Doesn’t seem to be the case, does it?

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frog1000 When: 13 Dec 20 21:47

Time will tell whether winter 2020/2021 has an exceptionally bad number of deaths from respiratory diseases.

I always thought that the different waves of a pandemic were due to mutations of a disease rather than a seasonal resurgence.

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Fatslogger When: 13 Dec 20 23:41

If you’d prefer to call it a second peak of an initial wave, that you claimed wouldn’t happen, I’d have no problem with that pedantic distinction.

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nineteen points When: 14 Dec 20 08:40

lets not forget its flu season.