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By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 08 Nov 24 19:27
Why do you think she was unable to reproduce a similarly polished performance in any of her unscripted interviews?
By:
edy
When: 08 Nov 24 19:38
She wasn't.
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 08 Nov 24 20:51
What colour is the sky where you live? Purple with pink spots I suppose.
By:
edy
When: 08 Nov 24 21:01
What makes you say that, honey?
By:
Ronaldmcdonald
When: 08 Nov 24 21:56
I saw the interviews.
By:
tobermory
When: 08 Nov 24 21:56
Pelosi saying not having an open primary was the problem. And this was Biden's fault for endorsing Kamala right away.

Says maybe Kamala might have won that, but clearly Nancy was hoping for someone else.

As of course was Obama and probably Schumer too.

It's basically what I said on the day Joe quit. Very clear that Biden's endorsement was done to wreck their plans. Pelosi will presumably have told Joe how the process to replace him was going to play out, but he endorsed Kamala as a fk u to Nancy.

Also you can imagine Jill ringing people urging them to endorse Kamala, so that the issue of passing over a woman of color was placed in the path of any contest.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 08 Nov 24 22:03
She's a old fool too, there was no time for a primary

Biden's fault again
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 08 Nov 24 22:06
Wouldn't have made a scrap of difference anyway
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 08 Nov 24 22:29
They keep thwarting assassination attempts

He's got so many after it seems, I no longer buy there's been anymore attempts since the first one
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 08 Nov 24 22:30
After him **
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 08 Nov 24 22:53
Infamy infamy
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 07:13

Nov 8, 2024 -- 9:56PM, Ronaldmcdonald wrote:


I saw the interviews.


Then you would have noticed her answers were like in the debate. In the debate she didn't really nail any of the answers. Like you regularly do with your stock phrases from a cheat sheet on here, she had prepared and learned her stock phrases for the likely topics at the debate.

Her interviews were largely similar, with the difference however being that at the debate there was another participant that made her answers and demeanor look good in comparison in that particular setting. Trump's lazy nature in all things studying and acquiring knowledge didn't allow him to properly prepare even for the general topics that were likely to appear at the debate and his fill the zone with poo free styling isn't good enough anymore unless it's just a casual talk with uncritial or even adoring podcasters.

By:
Cider
When: 09 Nov 24 07:36
Some people really do live in fantasy lala land (along with Harris). Did any of you actually listen to her belated, so called concession speech, and think if only this was the next leader of the free world... I really do hope not lol. Biden's was surprisingly strong, almost presidential Tongue Out
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 07:38
Weren't you real world person expecting her to be like Trump after the 2020 elections?
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 07:42
tobermory • October 24, 2024 8:47 PM BST
If the Dems lose there will be BS about 'voter supression', legal challenges and calls for alternate electors.

And quite possibly a riot too.

Cider • October 24, 2024 8:55 PM BST
Of course, tobermory, they took it so well the last time!
By:
Cider
When: 09 Nov 24 07:44
I expected Dems to 'fight' if it was close. It was an effective wipeout, not hinged on a couple of dodgy late counts when many states did not follow the usual rules under the cover of lockdown. Which state do you think they should be contesting?

Yes this approach probably cost me a lot of money, but I am a much more cautious gambler nowadays.
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 07:44
But I guess January 6th is still ahead and the Proud Democrats could show up and poo on the desk of Johnson.
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 07:46
Cute that you real worl person thinks Trump and his team were challenging for legit reasons.
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 07:46
Oh you naive little cutesy.
By:
Cider
When: 09 Nov 24 07:48
Are you arguing that Trump would have still contested this in 2020, with a similar rejection to Harris just got ?
By:
Cider
When: 09 Nov 24 07:50
The US has a history of contested elections ending up in court. I'd have thought you'd be aware of that. Hanging chads n all.
By:
Cider
When: 09 Nov 24 07:52
I'm responding to the comical argument that Harris didn't get enough time. I want what they are smoking.
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 07:52
Of course I am aware and yes, Trump and their team would have flooded the zone about BS election fraud no matter the result. They already did on election day and before even though he was winning bigly.
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 07:54
Biden had 37 electoral college votes above the needed threshold. What was Trump's legit claim to those?
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 07:54
I guess Georgia and Arizone were sort of close, but which ones beyond that?
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 07:57
And why do you think Trump's challenged failed? Dudgy judges absolutely everywhere that are meanies?
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 07:57
Or did they fail because it was all about flooding the zone with poo?
By:
Cider
When: 09 Nov 24 07:57
Litigation is part of the unique dna culture of the US, same as civilians being armed. Most sane neutral commentators I heard only hoped for a clear cut victory for either side.

I doubt Dems and their supporters are going to accept the trouncing without a 'fight' anyway, they've just not figured out what to do yet.
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 07:58
I see. What fight are you envisioning?
By:
Cider
When: 09 Nov 24 08:00
No idea. I'm envisioning they won't be going away for four years.
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 08:01
Well, still participating instead of withdrawing all your people from the legislative bodies is kind of the nature of a democracy.
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 08:04
We don't expect Reform and Tories to not participate in your democracy either of course. Not going away is very, very far removed from deliberately spreading BS about the elections very much against ones own better knowledge.
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 08:04
and rioting and trying to get to elected officials to hang Mike Pence.
By:
Cider
When: 09 Nov 24 08:10
US have a presidential system (the clue is in the name). The president is head of state. There is no formal opposition to the US president (aside from the legacy media and governmental functions).
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 08:16
The famous and renowned checks and balances system of the USA does put...checks and balances on the USA's president (the clue is in the name). Not going away is the core principle of US American democracy.
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 08:24
Bit surprised real world people aren't aware of that. At least if they have spent time outside of North Korea.
By:
Cider
When: 09 Nov 24 08:27
It's a federal system. Something you should be familiar with.

Joe Biden signed more than a dozen executive orders in his first hours as president on Wednesday, the first salvos in a coming legislative and regulatory crusade to erase Donald Trump’s legacy from federal law and advance his own agenda.


Executive Order 1:
Require masks on federal property
Biden is ordering a nationwide mask-wearing and social-distancing mandate on federal lands, in federal buildings, and for federal employees and contractors.

Executive Order 2:
Rejoin the World Health Organization
Reversal of Trump Order
Biden canceled Trump’s move to withdraw the country from the World Health Organization and, in an early show of commitment to the global health body, sent infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci to speak at the WHO’s virtual board meeting Thursday morning.

Executive Order 3:
Set up a Covid office that reports directly to Biden
Reversal of Trump Order
Biden created a White House Covid-19 response team, led by Jeff Zients, that will coordinate across the federal government and with states on ramping up vaccinations, distributing more masks and gloves, expanding testing capacity, reopening schools and more. This order also reestablishes the National Security Council’s directorate for global health security and biodefense — an office disbanded by the Trump administration.

Executive Order 4:
Extend foreclosure and eviction moratoriums
Biden directed key agencies, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; the Department of Veterans Affairs; the Department of Agriculture; the Department of Housing and Urban Development; and the Federal Housing Finance Agency to extend the current pause on federal evictions and foreclosures through at least the end of March.

Executive Order 5:
Freeze student debt collection
Biden is immediately directing the Education Department to continue to freeze monthly payments and interest on most federal student loans until “at least” Sept. 30.

Executive Order 6:
Rejoin the Paris climate accords
Reversal of Trump Order
Biden signed an order to rejoin the Paris climate accords that President Trump exited last year, sending the United Nations a document that will make the U.S. party to the agreement in 30 days. The international pact aims to push all countries to slash their greenhouse gas emissions.

Executive Order 7:
Revoke the permit for the Keystone XL pipeline and cancel other Trump administration energy rules
Reversal of Trump Order
Biden revoked the presidential permit for the $8 billion Keystone XL pipeline that would have transported fossil fuels from Canada across the United States -- a project climate activists have protested for years. The order also directs federal agencies to start reversing and revising other Trump administration rules, including restoring protections and banning drilling in several national parks and national monuments and setting stricter emissions and fuel economy standards for vehicles.

Racial Justice
Executive Order 8:
Nix the 1776 Commission
Reversal of Trump Order
Biden terminated the Trump administration’s 1776 Commission, a project aimed at promoting a more conservative history curriculum in U.S. schools that existed for only a few months. The group released a report on Martin Luther King Jr. Day that contained several inaccuracies and paragraphs lifted from other published works. This executive order also directs all federal agencies to create an action plan within 200 days to “address unequal barriers to opportunity in agency policies and programs.” It also undoes the Trump administration’s policy that prohibited federal contractors and some grant recipients that conduct “any form of race or sex stereotyping,” including diversity training.

Executive Order 9:
Unwind Trump’s changes to the census
Reversal of Trump Order
Biden signed an order revoking the Trump administration efforts to exclude undocumented immigration from the U.S. census, a change that would have weakened federal representation for diverse areas generally represented by Democrats. The order also ensures that census takers have enough time to obtain an accurate count of the population, reversing the Trump administration’s move to cut the work short.

Executive Order 10:
Strengthen legal protections for “Dreamers”
Reversal of Trump Order
Biden directed the secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the attorney general, to take actions to shore up the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program that shielded hundreds of thousands of young immigrants from deportation. The Trump administration tried to abolish the program but was stopped by federal courts.

Executive Order 11:
Abolish the “Muslim ban”
Reversal of Trump Order
Biden got rid of the Trump administration’s ban on people from several majority Muslim countries entering the United States, a policy the new administration blasted as “rooted in religious animus and xenophobia.” The order also instructs the State Department to restart visa processing for the countries affected by the ban.

Executive Order 12:
Cancel the Trump administration’s interior enforcement rule
Reversal of Trump Order
Biden revoked a Trump executive order that massively expanded immigration officials’ interior enforcement work and broadened the categories of who they should try to detain and deport. His acting DHS secretary then issued a memo pausing deportations for 100 days beginning on Jan. 22.

Executive Order 13:
Halt construction of the U.S.-Mexico border wall
Reversal of Trump Order
Biden declared an immediate termination of the national emergency declaration that the Trump administration used to divert federal funding to building the U.S.-Mexico border wall, and ordered a pause on its construction while the new administration reviews the funding and contracts.

Executive Order 14:
Extend deportation protections for Liberians
Reversal of Trump Order
Biden signed an order extending the Deferred Enforced Departure (DED) designation for Liberians who have been in the United States for many years until June 30, 2022, shielding them from deportation and extending their work authorization until then. Trump had threatened to terminate the program, which would have put the status of about 4,000 Liberians in jeopardy.

Executive Order 15:
Ban workplace discrimination against LGBT employees
Biden signed an executive order making it clear that his administration interprets the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as prohibiting workplace discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity. The order also directs federal agencies to make sure existing laws banning sex discrimination also prohibit discrimination against gay, bisexual and transgender workers.

Executive Order 16:
Implement an ethics pledge for all executive branch officials
Biden signed an ethics pledge and ordered every appointee in the executive branch to do so as well. The pledges cover both a ban on political interference with the Justice Department and a ban on all officials using their office for their own personal gain.

Executive Order 17:
Freeze Trump’s “midnight regulations”
Reversal of Trump Order
Biden signed an order that will freeze all Trump administration regulations currently in process, blocking them from taking effect while the new administration reviews them.
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 08:29
Cider • November 9, 2024 8:27 AM GMT
It's a federal system. Something you should be familiar with.


Which does invalidate "Not going away is the core principle of US American democracy." how exactly?
By:
edy
When: 09 Nov 24 08:31
It strenghtens it as the states are powerful and yet another check on the role the US President fills.
By:
Cider
When: 09 Nov 24 08:32
edy, you'll just have to take it from me that there is no formal opposition to the POTUS. I demonstrated this by outlining what sleepy Joe's people did on his first day. If you don't believe me, I don't care.
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