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politicspunter
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Multiple markets up now from various firms on 2024 President plus Democratic and Republican candidates.
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Report razz August 3, 2022 2:51 PM BST

Aug 3, 2022 -- 9:53AM, Escapee wrote:


Trump is well ahead of DeSantis in the Rep Nominee market, and yet DeSantis is a shade ahead in the next president market ??anyone got any theories on this seeming discrepancy?


USA - Presidential Election 2024 -- Republican Nominee

Report razz August 3, 2022 2:57 PM BST
Makes sense to me, I don't think trump has that much chance of winning the presidency again even if he does win the nomination, a younger less divisive person like de santis has many advantages over trump in the context of the outright market. this is providing the odds for the nomination are really close like they are now but it is weird when there's more of a difference each of them, seems hard to balance for too long this far out with so much speculation about.
Report politicspunter August 3, 2022 3:11 PM BST
Escapee • August 3, 2022 9:53 AM BST
Trump is well ahead of DeSantis in the Rep Nominee market, and yet DeSantis is a shade ahead in the next president market ??

anyone got any theories on this seeming discrepancy?

Yes, DeSantis has a much better chance of winning outright but is hampered by Trump supporters who will give him the nomination.
Report politicspunter August 4, 2022 4:28 PM BST
Donald Trump to become President before 2025

https://smarkets.com/event/42461161/politics/us/donald-trump/donald-trump-to-become-president-before-2025
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£75,709

Money piling on today.
Report politicspunter August 4, 2022 4:49 PM BST
Smarkets News & Politics
@SmarketsPol
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Ron DeSantis takes over as favourite to win the 2024 presidential election.
Gavin Newsom moves ahead of VP Kamala Harris in the betting.
Report politicspunter August 4, 2022 5:29 PM BST

Aug 4, 2022 -- 4:28PM, politicspunter wrote:


Donald Trump to become President before 2025https://smarkets.com/event/42461161/politics/us/donald-trump/donald-trum... piling on today.


£78,588 Shocked

Report politicspunter August 5, 2022 11:15 AM BST
Steve Herman
@W7VOA
· 7h
Online political betting market @PredictIt effectively ordered by @CFTC to shut down before Feb. 16, 2023 by @CFTC.   https://cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/8567-22
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Bit of a surprise there.
Report politicspunter August 5, 2022 11:18 AM BST
Donald Trump to become President before 2025

https://smarkets.com/event/42461161/politics/us/donald-trump/donald-trump-to-become-president-before-2025
.

£75,709

Money piling on today.

Now £80,068 ! Shocked
Report Timber August 5, 2022 11:20 AM BST
AZ will decertify next year
Texas has already said the election was fraudulent
Wisconsin senate voted for decertification
Plenty of people still pushing in PA and GA

Just a matter of getting rid of the traitors and then Trump's electoral seats will surpass the illegitimate Biden
Report Timber August 5, 2022 11:22 AM BST
With a heavily right wing supreme court that sloppy Joe keeps verbally abusing, they will be happy to put Trump back in
Fast track the cases & start putting people in jail
Report edy August 5, 2022 11:22 AM BST

Aug 5, 2022 -- 11:20AM, Timber wrote:


AZ will decertify next yearTexas has already said the election was fraudulent Wisconsin senate voted for decertificationPlenty of people still pushing in PA and GAJust a matter of getting rid of the traitors and then Trump's electoral seats will surpass the illegitimate Biden


wanna bet your forum existence on it? Why am I even asking? Of course you won't because you don't even believe this will happen. Just pretend to do.

Report edy August 5, 2022 11:25 AM BST
Fake believers are the very worst.
Report politicspunter August 5, 2022 11:54 AM BST

Aug 5, 2022 -- 11:18AM, politicspunter wrote:


Donald Trump to become President before 2025https://smarkets.com/event/42461161/politics/us/donald-trump/donald-trum... piling on today.Now £80,068 !


Maybe jucel/timber/sticky was right enough Grin

Report Froggitt August 5, 2022 12:39 PM BST
I'd guess most of that money this morning was me averaging down my prices by laying NO at comparatively (for me) low odds. If anyone sees Payday Man, please tell him I'm open to laying at 8.0 again
Report Froggitt August 5, 2022 12:43 PM BST

Aug 5, 2022 -- 11:18AM, politicspunter wrote:


Donald Trump to become President before 2025https://smarkets.com/event/42461161/politics/us/donald-trump/donald-trum... piling on today.Now £80,068 !


Keep up £81,202

Report razz August 5, 2022 1:09 PM BST
RIP predictit, seems like they will effectively be done. current markets will stay active until feb apparently.
Report Froggitt August 5, 2022 1:44 PM BST

Aug 5, 2022 -- 1:09PM, razz wrote:


RIP predictit, seems like they will effectively be done. current markets will stay active until feb apparently.


Still the Wild West over there. Am now pleased I couldn't get on with them.....didn't they start with the Trump pre-2025 market? Imagine being balls deep in that market on PredictIT!!!

Report politicspunter August 5, 2022 1:46 PM BST

Aug 5, 2022 -- 12:43PM, Froggitt wrote:


Aug 5, 2022 -- 11:18AM, politicspunter wrote:Donald Trump to become President before 2025https://smarkets.com/event/42461161/politics/us/donald-trump/donald-trum... piling on today.Now £80,068 !Keep up £81,202


That's me out of the donor market. Sold at 6, bought at 11.5, thanks very much (for now) Grin

Report politicspunter August 5, 2022 1:52 PM BST

Aug 5, 2022 -- 1:44PM, Froggitt wrote:


Aug  5, 2022 --  1:09PM, razz wrote:RIP predictit, seems like they will effectively be done. current markets will stay active until feb apparently.Still the Wild West over there. Am now pleased I couldn't get on with them.....didn't they start with the Trump pre-2025 market? Imagine being balls deep in that market on PredictIT!!!


That would be a nightmare! How are they going to sort out that mess and for that matter, all events that finish after they stop trading such as the 2024 Presidential election? Shocked

Report razz August 5, 2022 2:11 PM BST

Aug 5, 2022 -- 1:44PM, Froggitt wrote:


Aug  5, 2022 --  1:09PM, razz wrote:RIP predictit, seems like they will effectively be done. current markets will stay active until feb apparently.Still the Wild West over there. Am now pleased I couldn't get on with them.....didn't they start with the Trump pre-2025 market? Imagine being balls deep in that market on PredictIT!!!


yeah, I would never use them with their fees and limits but still a blow to the industry. yeah they have a lot of markets available that finish after feb next year, they don't know how they will resolve them yet. maybe they will resolve them at the odds on the day or something

Report Froggitt August 5, 2022 2:24 PM BST
No way would they resolve at the odds on the day, way too open to manipulation. Has to be a void.
Report Froggitt August 5, 2022 2:26 PM BST

Aug 5, 2022 -- 1:46PM, politicspunter wrote:


Aug  5, 2022 -- 12:43PM, Froggitt wrote:Aug 5, 2022 -- 11:18AM, politicspunter wrote:Donald Trump to become President before 2025https://smarkets.com/event/42461161/politics/us/donald-trump/donald-trum... piling on today.Now £80,068 !Keep up £81,202That's me out of the donor market. Sold at 6, bought at 11.5, thanks very much (for now)


Well done PP

Report politicspunter August 5, 2022 2:33 PM BST

Aug 5, 2022 -- 2:24PM, Froggitt wrote:


No way would they resolve at the odds on the day, way too open to manipulation. Has to be a void.


There could easily be a lot of sharp practice about to take place. Personally, I would be bailing like hell right now in order to avoid a potential disaster.

Report politicspunter August 5, 2022 2:38 PM BST
Does anyone else think that the donor may have discovered the flaw in his Trump 2025 strategy and is just taking any prices going to try and minimise an inevitable loss? If so, he will take any price available...
Report politicspunter August 5, 2022 2:49 PM BST
https://www.usbets.com/predictit-shut-down-federal-regulators/
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Some info on the demise of Predictit.
Report razz August 5, 2022 2:57 PM BST

Aug 5, 2022 -- 2:24PM, Froggitt wrote:


No way would they resolve at the odds on the day, way too open to manipulation. Has to be a void.


maybe, but I was thinking about like an avg of the odds across other big sites

Report Froggitt August 5, 2022 3:00 PM BST

Aug 5, 2022 -- 2:38PM, politicspunter wrote:


Does anyone else think that the donor may have discovered the flaw in his Trump 2025 strategy and is just taking any prices going to try and minimise an inevitable loss? If so, he will take any price available...


No I think it's just sensible traders reducing their average cost

Report blank August 5, 2022 4:43 PM BST

Aug 5, 2022 -- 2:49PM, politicspunter wrote:


https://www.usbets.com/predictit-shut-down-federal-regulators/.Some info on the demise of Predictit.


Interesting stuff. I wasn't aware there was a maximum limit of 5,000 traders allowed to trade in any single market, along with the $850 wagering limit that site seems ideal for manipulation.

Report politicspunter August 5, 2022 4:54 PM BST
I wasn't aware of the limits either.
Report A_T August 5, 2022 5:11 PM BST
US employers add 528,000 jobs; unemployment falls to 3.5%

WASHINGTON (AP) — America’s employers added a stunning 528,000 jobs last month despite raging inflation and anxiety about a possible recession, restoring all of the positions lost in the coronavirus recession. Unemployment fell to 3.5%, the lowest level since the pandemic struck in early 2020.

There were 130,000 more jobs created in July than there were in June, and the most since February.

The red-hot jobs numbers from the Labor Department on Friday arrive amid a growing consensus that the economy is losing momentum. The U.S. economy shrank in the first two quarters of 2022 — an informal definition of recession. But most economists believe the strong jobs market has kept the economy from slipping into a downturn.

https://apnews.com/article/inflation-united-states-economy-unemployment-4895f1aa41fbe904400df8261446b737
Report razz August 5, 2022 8:17 PM BST

Aug 5, 2022 -- 4:43PM, blank wrote:


Aug 5, 2022 -- 2:49PM, politicspunter wrote:https://www.usbets.com/predictit-shut-down-federal-regulators/.Some info on the demise of Predictit.Interesting stuff. I wasn't aware there was a maximum limit of 5,000 traders allowed to trade in any single market, along with the $850 wagering limit that site seems ideal for manipulation.


withdrawal fees too

Report politicspunter August 6, 2022 7:30 AM BST

Aug 5, 2022 -- 3:00PM, Froggitt wrote:


Aug 5, 2022 -- 2:38PM, politicspunter wrote:Does anyone else think that the donor may have discovered the flaw in his Trump 2025 strategy and is just taking any prices going to try and minimise an inevitable loss? If so, he will take any price available...No I think it's just sensible traders reducing their average cost


Have you cashed in some of your holding froggitt?

Report Froggitt August 6, 2022 3:11 PM BST
Yes I did, laid quite a lot of NO low
Report Froggitt August 6, 2022 3:13 PM BST
Guess what I just had for lunch PP?
Report politicspunter August 6, 2022 3:22 PM BST
Fillet steak?
Report politicspunter August 6, 2022 3:24 PM BST
£86,967 ! The market looks completely different today.
Report politicspunter August 6, 2022 3:31 PM BST
Froggitt, sending you PM.
Report politicspunter August 6, 2022 4:08 PM BST
Laugh
Report Froggitt August 6, 2022 4:59 PM BST
£88,566
Report Froggitt August 6, 2022 9:17 PM BST
£90,973
Report politicspunter August 6, 2022 9:51 PM BST
Grin
Report razz August 8, 2022 10:48 PM BST
Biden fails to put on a jacket, and then his glasses fall off.

https://twitter.com/Brick_Suit/status/1556755553816170497

Plain
Report razz August 8, 2022 10:56 PM BST
a jacket...
Report Escapee August 8, 2022 10:57 PM BST
ah yes, the old trump can't even drink a glass of water video
Report razz August 8, 2022 11:06 PM BST
* a wild but trumpor appeared *
Report Escapee August 8, 2022 11:43 PM BST
lol, you got me wrong, I ain't a fan of either.

Biden, Trump, both are decrepit, well past their sell by dates , it's absurd that in 2 years it will likely be an 80yo vs 81yo race.

It's so crazy that I've bet over a bag of sand that trump won't be in the race, if Biden's odds were similar to Trumps, I'd bet the same on him not running either.
Report Escapee August 8, 2022 11:45 PM BST
USA - Presidential Election 2024 -- Republican Nominee        
51 Runners            £442,474 Matched   



              105.6%   97.6%             
Donald Trump    2.08 2.1 2.12   2.14   2.2   2.22   £337,178
        £93 £14 £3     £5 £26 £43  
Ron DeSantis    3.1 3.15 3.25   3.35   3.4   3.5   £49,094
        £2,397 £56 £79     £6 £3 £261  
Nikki Haley    27 28 29   30   34   48   £8,987
        £2 £58 £10     £11 £12 £2  
Mike Pence    16.5 18 18.5   19   20   21   £15,205
        £2 £15 £2     £28 £17 £78  
Mike Pompeo    38 40 42   46   48   50   £3,748
        £51 £9 £3     £7 £41 £9  
Ted Cruz    70 95 100   130   140   150   £3,608
        £3 £1 £8     £4 £3 £3  
Tom Cotton    48 50 55   70   75   80   £2,426
        £19 £10 £8     £5 £8 £9  
Kristi Noem    60 65 90   95   100   110   £3,630
        £1 £10 £5     £7 £5 £13  
Tim Scott    60 65 75   85   140   150   £1,952
        £19 £3 £2     £204 £2 £1  
Glenn Youngkin    65 75 80   120   130   950   £472
        £2 £2 £4     £2 £2 £3  
  plus 41 more runners not listed above, at odds of over 100 
Report Escapee August 8, 2022 11:46 PM BST
USA - Presidential Election 2024 -- Democratic Nominee        
34 Runners            £532,334 Matched   



              97.8%   88.1%             
Joe Biden    3.6 3.65 3.7   3.75   3.8   3.85   £428,562
        £108 £48 £21     £114 £252 £35  
Kamala Harris    5.9 6 6.2   6.4   6.6   7.8   £52,608
        £61 £25 £61     £38 £258 £2  
Pete Buttigieg    11.5 12 12.5   13   13.5   14   £9,918
        £72 £6 £1     £10 £3 £10  
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez    50 60 65   75   80   85   £2,729
        £3 £1 £1     £10 £5 £8  
Elizabeth Warren    27 28 29   30   32   34   £6,635
        £32 £2 £9     £47 £6 £12  
Eric Garcetti    60 70 75   85   90   95   £470
        £2 £34 £2     £16 £2 £3  
Gavin Newsom    7.2 7.4 7.6   7.8   8   8.2   £7,188
        £8 £43 £102     £39 £23 £2  
Michelle Obama    19.5 22 23   26   27   29   £5,205
        £2 £27 £3     £10 £6 £3  
Michael Bloomberg    55 70 75   85   90   95   £1,394
        £14 £3 £18     £2 £8 £5  
Amy Klobuchar    34 36 38   42   44   46   £2,795
        £5 £5 £6     £6 £3 £15  
Hillary Clinton    26 27 28   30   32   34   £6,739
        £2 £39 £4     £29 £77 £2  
Gretchen Whitmer    70 75 80   95   100   110   £663
        £59 £20 £2     £1 £15 £44  
Jared Polis    70 90 100   280   290   330   £153
        £2 £3 £1     £3 £2 £3  
J.B. Pritzker    30 32 34   55   60   80   £729
        £2 £22 £1     £4 £3 £2  
Dwayne Johnson    48 50 55   65   1000   -   £1,602
        £2 £32 £1     £347 £6      
  plus 19 more runners not listed above, at odds of over 100 
Report razz August 8, 2022 11:49 PM BST

Aug 8, 2022 -- 11:43PM, Escapee wrote:


lol, you got me wrong, I ain't a fan of either.Biden, Trump, both are decrepit, well past their sell by dates , it's absurd that in 2 years it will likely be an 80yo vs 81yo race.It's so crazy that I've bet over a bag of sand that trump won't be in the race, if Biden's odds were similar to Trumps, I'd bet the same on him not running either.


I didn't say you were a biden fan, just find it amusing when ppl bring up trump to rebut negative biden posts. bith are decrepit ye but imo biden is much worse, trump has a lot more energy in his voice and he just seems a lot more coherent. I agree trump won't be in the race but I don't see biden being in it either. as it stands I don't think either of them gets the nomination but that doesn't seem to be the general view by any means on here.

Report Jack Bauer "24" August 9, 2022 12:03 AM BST
FBI executes search warrant at Mar-a-Lago.

TICK TOCK, TICK TOCK...
Report Escapee August 9, 2022 12:05 AM BST
other crazy things about the 2024 election are that:

A) Trump is favourite to win it

and B) Biden is 8.6, which is stonking huge value on an incumbent with < 2.5 years to go. But I just can't bring myself to back him.

USA - Presidential Election 2024 -- Election Winner        
94 Runners            £1,311,399 Matched   



              104.2%   93%             
Donald Trump    4.1 4.2 4.3   4.5   4.6   4.7   £538,541
        £182 £701 £169     £197 £56 £54  
Ron DeSantis    4.3 4.4 4.5   4.6   4.7   4.8   £121,177
        £59 £173 £13     £12 £82 £15  
Joe Biden    8 8.2 8.4   8.8   9   9.2   £279,026
        £86 £2 £55     £214 £65 £103  
Kamala Harris    18 18.5 19   19.5   20   21   £110,535
        £7 £40 £12     £33 £19 £8  
Gavin Newsom    19 19.5 20   22   25   26   £11,364
        £21 £4 £14     £16 £36 £6  
Mike Pence    26 27 28   29   30   32   £50,971
        £2 £14 £34     £17 £22 £26  
Pete Buttigieg    25 26 27   29   30   32   £17,236
        £25 £7 £9     £13 £14 £16  
Michelle Obama    38 40 42   46   48   50   £11,243
        £17 £8 £9     £13 £17 £42  
Nikki Haley    42 44 46   55   60   65   £25,789
        £1 £31 £5     £17 £4 £8  
Elizabeth Warren    50 60 65   70   85   90   £11,204
        £5 £24 £10     £63 £8 £22  
Hillary Clinton    60 65 70   80   85   90   £12,755
        £5 £86 £4     £41 £24 £8  
Mike Pompeo    60 65 70   80   85   90   £9,647
        £20 £13 £8     £7 £17 £7  
Dwayne Johnson    65 70 75   80   85   95   £14,506
        £105 £29 £6     £27 £6 £7  
Tom Cotton    85 90 100   110   130   140   £4,135
        £10 £19 £14     £15 £12 £4  
Amy Klobuchar    85 90 95   110   120   130   £3,318
        £11 £1 £6     £14 £27 £23  
  plus 79 more runners not listed above, at odds of over 100 
Report Cardinal Scott August 9, 2022 12:20 AM BST
LOVE IT! Excited

Message to nihilists and proto fascists on here BE DISCOMBOBULATED



Report razz August 9, 2022 2:40 AM BST
trump rekt, bit weird he announced it(afaik) no?
Report Jack Bauer "24" August 9, 2022 2:57 AM BST
He's trying to control the narrative that it's all a political witch hunt and he is an innocent victim etc. The propagandists on Fox News are already spinning that line to their dumb viewers.

This action would have been authorised at the highest level, meaning AG Garland would have given the go-ahead and is in my view a statement of intent that Trump is quite likely to face criminal prosecution in one of the many ongoing investigations at some point in the future.
Report politicspunter August 9, 2022 8:45 AM BST
Trump prices drifting badly this morning.
Report politicspunter August 9, 2022 8:48 AM BST
If Trump prices continue to drift at this rate then so should the prices of Biden. Biden would beat Trump but would be underdog v DeSantis.
Report A_T August 9, 2022 8:52 AM BST
He's trying to control the narrative that it's all a political witch hunt and he is an innocent victim etc.

the irony is that it was the FBI that helped him beat Hillary in 2016 by announcing an investigation days before the polls
Report Timber August 9, 2022 8:53 AM BST

Aug 9, 2022 -- 8:48AM, politicspunter wrote:


If Trump prices continue to drift at this rate then so should the prices of Biden. Biden would beat Trump but would be underdog v DeSantis.


LaughLaughLaugh

Report Timber August 9, 2022 8:54 AM BST
Trading standards need to visit Politicspunter, and make him change his nameLaugh
Beyond clueless
Report frog1000 August 9, 2022 9:15 AM BST
Biden the underdog whoever he against.

Trump favourite whoever he against.

The odds are dependent on if they run or not.
Report frog1000 August 9, 2022 9:21 AM BST
Trump's price drifted due to the establishment raid trying to stop him becoming President.

Republican victory at 2024 election drifted at same time.

Goes against what some people think about Ron DeSantis being the better option for the GOP than Trump.

If Trump is such a bad option the DeStantis/Trump flipflop would result in the Republicans having more chance of winning in 2024.
Report politicspunter August 9, 2022 9:34 AM BST

Aug 9, 2022 -- 9:15AM, frog1000 wrote:


Biden the underdog whoever he against.Trump favourite whoever he against.The odds are dependent on if they run or not.


Biden would be favourite against Trump. He beat him clearly last time and Trump reputation in tatters now.

Report tobermory August 9, 2022 9:34 AM BST
Feel sorry for how excited left wingers get about all this Trump going to jail stuff.

Now matter how many of them come to nothing,the next one is always... "yeah, but this time it's really serious for him"

The spectacle of a presidential election where the government candidate is effectively prosecuting the main opposition candidate. It will look like a Russian election.
Report politicspunter August 9, 2022 9:45 AM BST
Trump popularity fading daily. De Santis has a far better chance of winning.
Report politicspunter August 9, 2022 9:54 AM BST
Latest Republican nominee prices in USA...

De Santis 2.63
Trump 3.03

It's only in the UK that Trump is favourite for the nomination.
Report Escapee August 9, 2022 10:09 AM BST
I wonder if trump regrets not publishing the enormous amounts of evidence he has showing the election was r1gged.

Maybe he could have filed a court case and got his lawyers to show the evidence in court.

Or held a press conference, even if he'd held a press conference in a garden centre the world would have seen the evidence he has.
Report politicspunter August 9, 2022 10:10 AM BST
Rake America Great Again Grin
Report blank August 9, 2022 12:06 PM BST
The market has shrugged it off. Trump back to last weeks prices, 4.7 outright, 2.24 Nominee, 1.2 to run.
Report Jack Bauer "24" August 9, 2022 1:08 PM BST
Feel sorry for how excited left wingers get about all this Trump going to jail stuff.

Now matter how many of them come to nothing,the next one is always... "yeah, but this time it's really serious for him"

The spectacle of a presidential election where the government candidate is effectively prosecuting the main opposition candidate. It will look like a Russian election.



Trump is not a candidate for anything yet and even if he does run he will not be the official nominee until it is confirmed at the convention in the late summer of 2024. That is 2 years from now, there is plenty of time for him to be prosecuted before then.

James Comey reopened the FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton 11 days before election day and that single action probably cost her the election in my view.  Any decision to prosecute will be taken by the the DOJ which is supposed to be entirely independent of the sitting administration and be based on the facts and evidence.

AG Garland has crossed a red line with this unprecedented action and it's a signal that he means business and is not afraid to prosecute if he has the evidence. This would be a major step and have huge ramifications, so he would have to be certain he has a watertight case or it would massively backfire if Trump is put on trial and then walks free. The fact that he has decided to cross this line suggests to me that it is more likely than not that Trump is going to face prosecution at some point.
Report A_T August 9, 2022 1:18 PM BST
wasn't it just a case of the FBI retrieving papers Trump should not have had in his possession?

the National Archive had raised concerns that stuff seemed to be missing but we don't know if anything has been found at Trump's house or if there has if it constitutes an offence.
Report Jack Bauer "24" August 9, 2022 1:26 PM BST
Removing documents especially classified material is a serious federal offence, but the important point was that they decided to carry out an unannounced raid on the home of a former president. They were sending a message that he is not above the law as he seems to believe. Also, anything else that has been discovered in the search relating to any other crimes can also be used as evidence.
Report Timber August 9, 2022 1:28 PM BST
Just been reported that the docs taken from Trump's house were boxed up by the GSA and mailed to Trump by them. And that the FBI has had access to these docs for MONTHS.
Report Timber August 9, 2022 1:28 PM BST

Aug 9, 2022 -- 1:26PM, Jack Bauer "24" wrote:


Removing documents especially classified material is a serious federal offence, but the important point was that they decided to carry out an unannounced raid on the home of a former president. They were sending a message that he is not above the law as he seems to believe. Also, anything else that has been discovered in the search relating to any other crimes can also be used as evidence.


Absolute nonsense

Report razz August 9, 2022 1:31 PM BST

Aug 9, 2022 -- 1:26PM, Jack Bauer "24" wrote:


Removing documents especially classified material is a serious federal offence, but the important point was that they decided to carry out an unannounced raid on the home of a former president. They were sending a message that he is not above the law as he seems to believe. Also, anything else that has been discovered in the search relating to any other crimes can also be used as evidence.


kinda like killary's emails right? Laugh

Report A_T August 9, 2022 1:37 PM BST
Just been reported that the docs taken from Trump's house were boxed up by the GSA and mailed to Trump by them. And that the FBI has had access to these docs for MONTHS.


well he was hardly going to box them up himself

how could the FBI have had access if they were at Trump's house
Report Jack Bauer "24" August 9, 2022 1:37 PM BST
kinda like killary's emails right?

That's right, anyone suspected of mishandling classified material and potentially breaking the law should be investigated and then prosecuted if the evidence exists.
Report A_T August 9, 2022 1:38 PM BST
kinda like killary's emails right?

yes and maybe like Killary there will be no charges. but it would have been fairer if the FBI had done as they did to Hillary a few days before the election (if Trump stands that is)
Report razz August 9, 2022 1:41 PM BST
email server is much worse than some paper documents safe and sound in a mansion
Report Jack Bauer "24" August 9, 2022 1:48 PM BST
Makes no difference whether you remove boxes of documents or have a private email server. If the evidence exists that you have broken the law, you should be prosecuted whoever you are. If you don't believe that, then I am afraid that you don't believe in the rule of law.
Report Timber August 9, 2022 1:52 PM BST
The president can declassify any documents
A raid should be the last point of call
Where are the letters to his lawyers requesting they be returned?
Report Timber August 9, 2022 1:54 PM BST
The J6 hearings have been a disaster and they are desperate to stop him
Next will be assassination
Report razz August 9, 2022 1:59 PM BST

Aug 9, 2022 -- 1:48PM, Jack Bauer "24" wrote:


Makes no difference whether you remove boxes of documents or have a private email server. If the evidence exists that you have broken the law, you should be prosecuted whoever you are. If you don't believe that, then I am afraid that you don't believe in the rule of law.


There's a huge difference in terms of the info leaking obviously, an email serve is a much more vulnerable target. Why do you think I don't believe the law was broken if there's evidence? that's a strange leap to make.

Report Jack Bauer "24" August 9, 2022 2:07 PM BST
I wasn't speaking specifically about you, I am speaking generally. Anyone who doesn't believe Trump or Hillary should be prosecuted if the evidence exists does not believe in the rule of law. No-one should be above the law.
Report A_T August 9, 2022 2:08 PM BST
razz what charges did Hillary face as a result of emails?
Report razz August 9, 2022 2:19 PM BST
you don't know? haha
Report A_T August 9, 2022 2:34 PM BST
I can't remember. Can you remind me what charges she faced?
Report razz August 9, 2022 2:41 PM BST
just get to your point..
Report A_T August 9, 2022 2:45 PM BST
ha ha
Report casemoney August 9, 2022 2:49 PM BST
Trump back into 7-2  Steady as a Rock , Very strange with FBI raids going on
Report razz August 9, 2022 2:52 PM BST
holy **** lol, the search warrant was issued by bruce reinhart, who once left the US attorney's office to work as a lawyer for a one "jeffrey epstein" during the attorney offices probe into epstein Crazy

that's going to raise some questions haha
Report casemoney August 9, 2022 2:54 PM BST
I think Trump knew the raid was going to happen Plain
Report politicspunter August 9, 2022 5:25 PM BST

Aug 9, 2022 -- 2:08PM, A_T wrote:


razz what charges did Hillary face as a result of emails?


None.

Report frog1000 August 9, 2022 10:20 PM BST
Trump back to favourite.

A lot of angry Trump layers appearing now.

Unless of course they are just, as suspected, paper traders.
Report politicspunter August 9, 2022 10:26 PM BST
As I said up thread, the only place where Trump is favourite is in the UK.
Report Escapee August 10, 2022 1:30 AM BST
"A lot of angry Trump layers appearing now."

Lol, where are the angry Trump Layers appearing?
or are they just in your head?


Thinking about it, I recall a lot of angry Trump backers in 2020, some of them still haven't got over it a couple of years after their bets went kaput.CryCryCryCry
Report politicspunter August 10, 2022 4:31 AM BST
That is correct. In fact, one of them, Insider Trader, was so humiliated after he was wiped out backing Trump that he changed his forum name to frog1000.
Report A_T August 10, 2022 6:13 PM BST
Biden Says There Was 'Zero Inflation' in July

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2022-08-10/biden-says-there-was-zero-inflation-in-july-video

meanwhile trump has had to invoke the fifth in the investigation into his taxes


6.5 more years Cool
Report Whisperingdeath August 11, 2022 12:19 AM BST
Only losers and the mob plead the 5th



Chump going down with Fredo and Ivanka
Report A_T August 11, 2022 7:27 AM BST
even Michael Corleone didn't plead the fifth because he knew it made him look guilty
Report razz August 11, 2022 8:01 PM BST

Aug 10, 2022 -- 6:13PM, A_T wrote:


Biden Says There Was 'Zero Inflation' in Julyhttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2022-08-10/biden-says-there-was-ze... trump has had to invoke the fifth in the investigation into his taxes6.5 more years


you betting biden?

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