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At least 95,000 people have entered the UK from overseas since the coronavirus lockdown was imposed, one of the government’s chief scientific advisers has revealed, while repeatedly failing to provide an estimate of how many of these people had Covid-19.
Appearing before MPs on the science and technology committee, Prof John Aston, the chief scientific adviser at the Home Office, admitted that had tougher restrictions been introduced at the border, the peak of the virus may have been delayed – but he did not say by how long, or if this would have saved lives.
At least 15,000 people a day are flying into the UK without checks on their medical condition, the health secretary admitted yesterday.
Matt Hancock said that the equivalent of 105,000 passengers a week were entering the UK from countries including those with serious coronavirus outbreaks such as the US, China, Spain and Italy. Criticism has mounted over the failure to impose health checks or a compulsory period in quarantine for people arriving at UK airports. The US has banned entry for people from Britain and elsewhere in Europe.
Now its been a long time since this forum started to highlight the death planes disaster, yet the deaths went on increasing, not statistics, but real people who would be alive if we had an honest efficient decent government. Instead we got Cummingsgate, death planes and thousands of unnecessary deaths.
Appearing before MPs on the science and technology committee, Prof John Aston, the chief scientific adviser at the Home Office, admitted that had tougher restrictions been introduced at the border, the peak of the virus may have been delayed – but he did not say by how long, or if this would have saved lives.
At least 15,000 people a day are flying into the UK without checks on their medical condition, the health secretary admitted yesterday.
Matt Hancock said that the equivalent of 105,000 passengers a week were entering the UK from countries including those with serious coronavirus outbreaks such as the US, China, Spain and Italy. Criticism has mounted over the failure to impose health checks or a compulsory period in quarantine for people arriving at UK airports. The US has banned entry for people from Britain and elsewhere in Europe.
Now its been a long time since this forum started to highlight the death planes disaster, yet the deaths went on increasing, not statistics, but real people who would be alive if we had an honest efficient decent government. Instead we got Cummingsgate, death planes and thousands of unnecessary deaths.
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How many threads have you made about death planes FFS.
Yes well the Tories keep them running and people keep dying. That is quit important.
some dont want to hear the truth cryoftruth.they want to hide till it goes away
When they reopen the pubs will you be posting some "death pubs" threads Cry?
Jun 5, 2020 -- 10:07AM, layingisthewayforward wrote:
When they reopen the pubs will you be posting some "death pubs" threads Cry?
Are the planes from virus riddled countries going to be landing in the pubs?
I see some death schools have reopened.
From Usa Italy Spain and China???
From Usa Italy Spain and China???
you cant win layingis, these anti boris types will troll you all day long
They love it don't they. I thought something must have happened to Kenny, he disappeared very fast when people started questioning the situation in Scotland.. Ah well, I'll leave them to it.
Jun 5, 2020 -- 4:38PM, layingisthewayforward wrote:
They love it don't they. I thought something must have happened to Kenny, he disappeared very fast when people started questioning the situation in Scotland.. Ah well, I'll leave them to it.
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1266382178474176513/photo/1
Scottish Government miles ahead of UK Government in handling pandemic.
Sky, its better to be trolled than not trolled at all. Just do your best your party needs you.
never mind the planes, what about the thousands protesting in london today sure gonna be some spreaders in there cue another spike in cases in about 10 days, morons!!!
those people that marched today cannot moan about a rise in cases and deaths, they are fueling it right now
its that kind of moronic attitude that will keep us in the pandemic for longer
Isn't that helping the "herd immunity" this brilliant government bought into?
skywalker..did you not remember our great leader Boris telling us all to "take it on the chin"?..stop whinging like a baby.
Whisper it gently to him kenny
..........Death is coming
Dorris is doing a wonderful job Luke. Following the science. The science changes on the 15th of June it is a scientifically factual truth on that date face masks will have an effect.
..........Death is coming
Dorris is doing a wonderful job Luke. Following the science. The science changes on the 15th of June it is a scientifically factual truth on that date face masks will have an effect.
Boris and government appear to be making it up as they go along. There doesn't seem to be any real plan, announcements are made at random regarding social distancing, shops, sunbathing, travel, masks etc and it feels they are solely trying to cater to their voting public rather than what's best for the country. Quarantining of folks coming in.. who knows where we are with that currently. Fines for folks that don't follow these "guidelines"...how can they be enforced? It has become a lottery of guessing what might be announced next.
Presumably if the Tories were flying in 15,000 Syrian refugees per day you would be stating "Tory Saviours".
Jun 7, 2020 -- 12:09PM, Arleystation wrote:
Presumably if the Tories were flying in 15,000 Syrian refugees per day you would be stating "Tory Saviours".
Sorry, no idea what you are talking about.
No need to apologise - you can't help your obtuseness.
I'm not apologising, I haven't a clue what you are on about. Have you posted on the wrong forum perhaps?
Pp new tradename "wrong fourm mate" like a lot on here dont want to answer tough questions
Are you still defending Government stupidity Luke?
People arriving at UK Ports now have an legal obligation to self isolate for 14 days. Who is going to stop them or even know if they are breaking quarantine?
People arriving at UK Ports now have an legal obligation to self isolate for 14 days. Who is going to stop them or even know if they are breaking quarantine?
Sky
Did I read somewhere that you were raised in S.Africa? I have known a number of white S Africans and they mostly had an air of superiority.
I never agreed with their assumption, just thought they were brought up to believe it.
I only mention this because I think you have that arrogance and that explains your general input into these threads. Shape up man your
input is welcome but a tad strange
Did I read somewhere that you were raised in S.Africa? I have known a number of white S Africans and they mostly had an air of superiority.
I never agreed with their assumption, just thought they were brought up to believe it.
I only mention this because I think you have that arrogance and that explains your general input into these threads. Shape up man your
input is welcome but a tad strange
whisper, still ignoring all goverement lockdown measures like you said you were a few weeks back
Oh God yeah!
meet up with friends every Saturday. All pretty safe and harmless. We moved away from the pub as we did not want to take the pith out of the Police. The first time we met we went to our pub and there were 20 people outside! The cops weren't too bothered but said they had been told they had to tell us to move which they did but when they came back after half an hour everyone was still there.
They have a tough job so we moved away from the pub eventually.
The laws are stupid Luke. They would fine or arrest people for sunbathing in the early days now they have found that getting sun is one of the best ways of fighting this disease.
They announce a quarantine from today but cannot police it. madness from a bunch of lunatics who have taken over the asylum.
meet up with friends every Saturday. All pretty safe and harmless. We moved away from the pub as we did not want to take the pith out of the Police. The first time we met we went to our pub and there were 20 people outside! The cops weren't too bothered but said they had been told they had to tell us to move which they did but when they came back after half an hour everyone was still there.
They have a tough job so we moved away from the pub eventually.
The laws are stupid Luke. They would fine or arrest people for sunbathing in the early days now they have found that getting sun is one of the best ways of fighting this disease.
They announce a quarantine from today but cannot police it. madness from a bunch of lunatics who have taken over the asylum.
we all think diffrently whisper, i prefer to stick to the rules
I take comfort in that Luke
Golf was cancelled today but I will be out for drinks with the boys on Saturday. I will not obey stupid people and stupid laws.
Golf was cancelled today but I will be out for drinks with the boys on Saturday. I will not obey stupid people and stupid laws.
The number of coronavirus deaths in the UK would have been halved if lockdown had been introduced a week earlier, a former government adviser has said.
Prof Neil Ferguson, whose advice was crucial to the decision to go into lockdown, said the outbreak had been doubling in size every three or four days before measures had been taken.
So they were warned well before lockdown they needed to act.
They had the example of Italy.
They had exactly the same information as Germany. But the Tories quite deliberately chose to do nothing at all. No ban on major events like European football matches or tha Cheltenham festival. Just a deliberate plan to let the virus go through the population.
Now half the deaths that have happened is over 20,000 people. Not statistics. Not some foreign people a long way away. But out own people, our mums and dads now dead because of deliberate Tory inaction.
They are essentially guilty of indirect murder of thousands. And they are still telling lie after lie and defend Cummingsgate and the death planes.
Shocking, vicious callous Tories.
Shame on them.
Prof Neil Ferguson, whose advice was crucial to the decision to go into lockdown, said the outbreak had been doubling in size every three or four days before measures had been taken.
So they were warned well before lockdown they needed to act.
They had the example of Italy.
They had exactly the same information as Germany. But the Tories quite deliberately chose to do nothing at all. No ban on major events like European football matches or tha Cheltenham festival. Just a deliberate plan to let the virus go through the population.
Now half the deaths that have happened is over 20,000 people. Not statistics. Not some foreign people a long way away. But out own people, our mums and dads now dead because of deliberate Tory inaction.
They are essentially guilty of indirect murder of thousands. And they are still telling lie after lie and defend Cummingsgate and the death planes.
Shocking, vicious callous Tories.
Shame on them.
real shame prof neil ferguson thought it was better to have a romp with his girlfriend rather than obey lockdown rules, so you really think anyone is gonna take notice of anything he says.
we couldve ended up with zero deaths had we moved the UK to outer space
Jun 10, 2020 -- 10:06PM, lord skywalker wrote:
real shame prof neil ferguson thought it was better to have a romp with his girlfriend rather than obey lockdown rules, so you really think anyone is gonna take notice of anything he says.
I wish Boris had.
2 weeks earlier lockdown and 3/4 of deaths don't happen...
and if we stood at 20k deaths total you would still be slagging him off so the guy cant win
Cryoftruth you don't like the tories much do you?
real shame prof neil ferguson thought it was better to have a romp with his girlfriend rather than obey lockdown rules, so you really think anyone is gonna take notice of anything he says.
He of course broke the rules and had to go.
Cummings broke the rules a number of times, went on telly, tried to tell the British people he had tested his eyes by driving his wife to a beauty spot on her birthday (ie lied through his teeth) and got the full support from the rotten government. We has the hapless idiot Handcock telling us Cummings never broke the rules, just like Cummings and Johnson, another brazen liar.
And the point is that Johnson, Cummingsgate, Handcock, Raab and the rest of the disgusting callous shower, have been appalling. By dithering they have wasted 20,000 lives. They should be charged with wilful neglect and the lot of them locked up!,
Your hatred of the tories is verging on comical. Do you honestly believe that if Labour had won the last election we'd have had 20,000 less deaths?
laying..thats hypothetical and deflects from the utter incompetence of Cummings and co.
laying,people dont hate the tories ad hoc.they hate folk who lie to them and worse still feed them bullshat and think they are dumb enough to swallow it.and please come with a better argument than labour wouldnt of done any better.its one step above your dad being bigger than his.
Had Labour won the pre-Christmas General Election, surely they would have had the same "expert" health advisers in post only 2 months later. Would Labour really have had the temerity to overrule these so-called experts at the beginning and impose an earlier lockdown?
Laying.
If labour had been in government you are more than likely right in saying they would not have 20-000 less deaths than the con-men, more likely it would be around 19.000.
There is no doubt if you asked the entire nation who would they have looking after their friends and family the conservatives would hardly get a vote.
The problem with our country is we have spoon fed them all bull ---- from birth and it shows.
If labour had been in government you are more than likely right in saying they would not have 20-000 less deaths than the con-men, more likely it would be around 19.000.
There is no doubt if you asked the entire nation who would they have looking after their friends and family the conservatives would hardly get a vote.
The problem with our country is we have spoon fed them all bull ---- from birth and it shows.
So why did so many millions vote for the tories at the last election?
The deaths from this virus have absolutely nothing to do with political parties. I've never voted for the tories in my life but its clear that some people have such hatred for them which was probably passed down from their parents that they blame them for anything and everything. I find it comical.
The deaths from this virus have absolutely nothing to do with political parties. I've never voted for the tories in my life but its clear that some people have such hatred for them which was probably passed down from their parents that they blame them for anything and everything. I find it comical.
Jun 14, 2020 -- 11:39AM, layingisthewayforward wrote:
So why did so many millions vote for the tories at the last election?The deaths from this virus have absolutely nothing to do with political parties. I've never voted for the tories in my life but its clear that some people have such hatred for them which was probably passed down from their parents that they blame them for anything and everything. I find it comical.
I don't know if you noticed but covid came after ther general election.
politics.
I have no hatred for anyone but the evidence is there for those that want to see. Corbyn and his thick bunch of followers were to blame, no ifs or buts.
It was a sick joke their naive playground manifesto , it was for the birds and hopefully Starmer can rid the party of these clueless
Waxkxxs and be a serious threat again.
Surely the intelligent ones realise their mistakes but I would not bank on it.
If labour do not get a decent act together then they should disband and put together a decent alternative.
The Tories were a sham and still they won in a canter it says it all and mostly about Labour.
I have no hatred for anyone but the evidence is there for those that want to see. Corbyn and his thick bunch of followers were to blame, no ifs or buts.
It was a sick joke their naive playground manifesto , it was for the birds and hopefully Starmer can rid the party of these clueless
Waxkxxs and be a serious threat again.
Surely the intelligent ones realise their mistakes but I would not bank on it.
If labour do not get a decent act together then they should disband and put together a decent alternative.
The Tories were a sham and still they won in a canter it says it all and mostly about Labour.
Do you honestly believe that if Labour had won the last election we'd have had 20,000 less deaths?
Its not about the tories, its about these current odious useless dishonest shower of Tories. If the Government had been competent, then there would have been the same death rates as per Germany for example, who learned from China, locked down nice and early and started restricting air passengers entering Germany before March 18.
The initial response of Cummings and the apprentice buffoon was to say we could “take it on the chin”, and play down the seriousness of Covid-19.
The straight answer to your question is “probably”. The chances are that we would have had far less deaths if almost anyone but these idiots had been in charge.
Its not about the tories, its about these current odious useless dishonest shower of Tories. If the Government had been competent, then there would have been the same death rates as per Germany for example, who learned from China, locked down nice and early and started restricting air passengers entering Germany before March 18.
The initial response of Cummings and the apprentice buffoon was to say we could “take it on the chin”, and play down the seriousness of Covid-19.
The straight answer to your question is “probably”. The chances are that we would have had far less deaths if almost anyone but these idiots had been in charge.
Even if you were very generous and did not blame Cummings and his puppet for the mishandling of it all..
Even if you were to note that our ridiculously high death rates are somehow “unlucky” or something, what surely people have a reasonable expectation of is that the Government will at least try to tell the truth.
Instead we get the micky taken by Cummings and Johnson about eye tests.
We get Raab saying that Cummings broke no lockdown rules and we get the hapless idiot Handcock claiming that all the decisions were “the right ones at the right time”.
As I say only people devoid or grey matter can possibly believe what this bunch of bare faced creatures utter.
Even if you were to note that our ridiculously high death rates are somehow “unlucky” or something, what surely people have a reasonable expectation of is that the Government will at least try to tell the truth.
Instead we get the micky taken by Cummings and Johnson about eye tests.
We get Raab saying that Cummings broke no lockdown rules and we get the hapless idiot Handcock claiming that all the decisions were “the right ones at the right time”.
As I say only people devoid or grey matter can possibly believe what this bunch of bare faced creatures utter.
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