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22 Apr 20 10:43
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Election year in USA with voting scheduled for November 3rd.  This thread is for events folks will be voting on, and more importantly betting on (!) outwith the President outcome itself.  There are loads of markets appearing, particularly betting on which presidential candidate will win each state and also senate elections in each state.
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Report Giuseppe September 15, 2021 4:02 PM BST
also a lot of Trump voters are unvaccinated and will die as a result, affecting key battleground states
Report Whisperingdeath September 15, 2021 4:03 PM BST
unlike you to post positive news Seppe!
Report casemoney September 15, 2021 4:07 PM BST
JOE 4-1 Laugh More foooking chance me being elected Laugh
Report Giuseppe September 15, 2021 4:09 PM BST
I'm coming to visit you next week

there's some more positive news
Report Giuseppe September 15, 2021 4:10 PM BST
do you have any gold jewellery that we could pawn
Report A_T September 15, 2021 4:58 PM BST
The Arizona Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected the state Senate's bid to keep records from Cyber Ninjas and other contractors working on the election audit out of public view.

After the decision was announced, Senate President Karen Fann, R-Prescott, said she was preparing to comply with an order from a lower court to release the documents.

The Senate had refused to turn over records from the audit that are in the possession of its contractor, Cyber Ninjas, and other subcontractors, even after two Maricopa County Superior Court judges in separate cases and the Appeals Court all ruled they are public documents.
Report Giuseppe September 15, 2021 5:00 PM BST
where do you live A_T do you have a few spare bedrooms? need somewhere to stay for me and a few mates next week in London
Report politicspunter September 15, 2021 5:02 PM BST
I thought everything was to be transparent, forensic, warts and all? Does this mean that Biden is still President and that Trump is not going to be reinstated after all?
Report A_T September 15, 2021 5:09 PM BST
I'm looking forward immensely to the results of the audit Grin
Report politicspunter September 15, 2021 5:18 PM BST
The fraudit Laugh
Report politicspunter September 15, 2021 6:09 PM BST
2024 Presidential General Election Poll:

Joe Biden 55% (+10)
Ron DeSantis 45%

The Listener Group/
~ 911 LV ~ 9/11-9/12
Report A_T September 17, 2021 9:53 AM BST
the fraudit is going so well Grin

4:35 p.m. Sept. 16: Election official seeks inquiry after voter data posted online
Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer is asking Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich to investigate after voter registration records were posted online.

Voter registration records known as the “voter file” are available to the public, but it's a felony to publish the information on the internet. The voter file includes the name, address and party affiliation of registered voters, along with some phone numbers. It shows whether the person has voted in recent elections but not the candidates and issues they supported.

“It appears that in this case, information from a public records request may have been posted in violation of state law,” Richer said in a statement Thursday. "I trust the Attorney General will look into this and take any necessary action.”
Report politicspunter September 17, 2021 10:01 AM BST
State Sen. Wendy Rogers, R-Flagstaff, posted pictures on Twitter of a gathering for audit volunteers that apparently took place Wednesday evening at the American Way Market in Chandler, and Cyber Ninjas CEO Doug Logan was in attendance.

Logan's smiling face was captured among Rogers' photos just hours after his lawyer told the Arizona Court of Appeals there was no way Cyber Ninjas could comply with a court order to produce emails, texts and other communications from the audit by Friday. Logan was just too busy, his lawyer said.
Report A_T September 17, 2021 6:36 PM BST
Arizona Fraudit final report a week today
Report politicspunter September 17, 2021 6:45 PM BST
It certainly looks as though the time is coming but frankly, anything can happen in this complete shambles that is an insult to democracy and the electorate of Arizona.
Report Whisperingdeath September 18, 2021 9:58 AM BST
Georgia coming for Chump!
Report politicspunter September 18, 2021 10:06 AM BST
Report A_T September 18, 2021 10:16 AM BST

i would say degenerate but it can't fall any further however this looks likely to result in arguments about the routers.
Report politicspunter September 18, 2021 5:59 PM BST

Has Timber moved Stateside? This is from yesterday from someone who still believes Trump won and wants his money back.
Report politicspunter September 18, 2021 6:01 PM BST
He followed it up with this...

"Get's interesting as Criminal Congress "certified" the election which will now be de-certified by Military, Supreme Court??"
Report politicspunter September 18, 2021 6:02 PM BST
And this...

"Added: The 2020 Prez election is about to be decertified. My attorney has contacted PredictIt and will be discussing settlement for Electoral College brackets wagers made here last fall. If you had Trump wagers on Electoral College, or other election bets including an entire array of Congressional wagers, you are entitled to seek settlement as these results are flipped. I am not sure how many millions of $ PI will need to settle these bets, but they sent out emails stating "if results change in any market, you are entitled to restitution on the new result"."
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 18, 2021 6:11 PM BST
Has Timber moved Stateside? This is from yesterday from someone who still believes Trump won and wants his money back.

Any shots of computer screen?
Report politicspunter September 18, 2021 6:18 PM BST
Report politicspunter September 18, 2021 7:49 PM BST

Rally supporting January 6th defendants underway.
Report politicspunter September 18, 2021 7:53 PM BST
Who will be the first to spot anyone who is not a white low educated male? (police officers don't count).
Report politicspunter September 18, 2021 11:31 PM BST
Report A_T September 21, 2021 10:17 AM BST

the softening-up for the swivel-eyed faithful has begun Grin
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- September 21, 2021 10:21 AM BST
Seemingly Trumpy wants to unseat mitch
mcconnell, but, is struggling
to find a stalking horse.
Report A_T September 22, 2021 8:33 AM BST
Maricopa County Supervisor Steve Chucri announced he will resign after recordings surfaced of him talking about the 2020 election and his county colleagues.

In the leaked recordings, Chucri bashed the other supervisors for their lack of support of the Arizona Senate's audit of the county's general election, and indicated he thought there were fraudulent votes cast in the election.
Report politicspunter September 22, 2021 9:38 AM BST
You wonder how many more recordings of folks connected to the audit may be in storage until the correct moment arrives when they can be used for dubious outcomes.
Report politicspunter October 30, 2021 3:25 PM BST
Perhaps GB News would like this number of viewers? Laugh
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 30, 2021 8:03 PM BST
BREAKING - Trump is trying to block 700 pages of White House records, including his calendar, visitor logs, and call logs for him and Pence, from the days up through January 6.

Something to hide, Donald?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 30, 2021 8:05 PM BST
The records include files drawn from Mark MEADOWS, Stephen MILLER, and hunreds of pages from binders of Kayleigh McAneny.

They also include a draft proclamation marking the deaths of Capitol Police officers. Brian Sicknick and Howard Liebengood.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 30, 2021 8:07 PM BST
Report politicspunter October 30, 2021 8:15 PM BST
Now theres a thing. Why would he wish to block investigations?
Report lfc1971 October 30, 2021 8:23 PM BST
bok , bok , bok
Report politicspunter October 30, 2021 8:27 PM BST
lfc1971 • October 29, 2021 2:40 PM BST
There are 52 states in America
Report politicspunter October 31, 2021 9:44 AM GMT
Report A_T November 17, 2021 9:25 PM GMT
Jan. 6 rioter who carried spear, wore horns, draws 41 months

Jacob Chansley, the spear-carrying Jan. 6 rioter whose horned fur hat, bare chest and face paint made him one of the more recognizable figures in the assault on the Capitol, was sentenced Wednesday to 41 months in prison.

Chansley, who pleaded guilty to a felony charge of obstructing an official proceeding, was among the first rioters to enter the building. He has acknowledged using a bullhorn to rile up the mob, offering thanks in a prayer while in the Senate for having the chance to get rid of traitors and scratching out a threatening note to Vice President Mike Pence saying, “It’s Only A Matter of Time. Justice Is Coming!”

Though he isn’t accused of violence, prosecutors say Chansley, of Arizona, was the “public face of the Capitol riot” who went into the attack with a weapon, ignored repeated police orders to leave the building and gloated about his actions in the days immediately after the attack.

Before he was sentenced, Chansley told U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth it was wrong for him to enter the Capitol and that he accepts responsibility for his actions. He emphasized he wasn’t an insurrectionist and is troubled with the way he was portrayed in news stories in the aftermath of the riot.

“I have no excuse,” Chansley said. “No excuses whatsoever. My behavior is indefensible.”
Report A_T November 20, 2021 5:56 PM GMT
if things weren't bizarre enough already...


Trump backers wormed their way into an Italian prison seeking proof the election was stolen: report

According to a report from the Daily Beast, two backers of Donald Trump "gained illicit access" to two hackers being held in an Italian prison in an effort to collect evidence that the 2020 presidential election was stolen.

In a report from Barbie Latza Nadeau, she states that reports on the access to the two prisoners set off alarm bells at the State Department which launched an investigation.

The report notes an earlier report on a conspiracy rumor in QAnon circles that the hackers "somehow hijacked a satellite in order to change the results being counted on American voting machines."

Report politicspunter November 20, 2021 6:06 PM GMT
Lol, That must be the maddest thing yet ! It's quite incredible that Americans can be so gullible as to believe there is any factual basis to this LaughLaughLaugh
Report dave1357 November 20, 2021 6:10 PM GMT
somehow hijacked a satellite

yeah and pootin blew up a satellite last week - you do the maths!
Report politicspunter November 28, 2021 4:57 PM GMT
Report A_T November 30, 2021 9:18 PM GMT
Ex-Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows now cooperating with January 6 committee

A former top Trump official is now cooperating with the congressional 6 January riot investigation, after months of tension over whether he would honour the inquiry’s requests for information.

Former Trump administration chief of staff Mark Meadows, who was in contact with the organisers of rallies that occurred the day of the attack on the Capitol, has been providing records to the House select committee investigating the riot, and will appear for an initial interview, CNN reports.

"Mr Meadows has been engaging with the Select Committee through his attorney," Mississippi’s Bennie Thompson, who chairs the committee, said in a statement. "He has produced records to the committee and will soon appear for an initial deposition.

“The Committee will continue to assess his degree of compliance with our subpoena after the deposition,” he added.
Report politicspunter November 30, 2021 9:35 PM GMT
Not a good day for Trump after being named as a passenger on the "Lolita Express" which flew underage girls to be abused.
Report Giuseppe November 30, 2021 9:38 PM GMT
i'm sure trump will end up in prison

any day now
Report A_T December 3, 2021 1:07 PM GMT
Trump campaign demonized two Georgia election workers – and death threats followed

As Donald Trump’s campaign sought to overturn his shocking loss of the state of Georgia in the 2020 presidential election, it hatched a conspiracy theory.

At its center were two masterminds: a clerical worker in a county election office, and her mom, who had taken a temporary job to help count ballots. The alleged plot: Wandrea “Shaye” Moss and mother Ruby Freeman cheated Trump by pulling fake ballots from suitcases hidden under tables at a ballot-counting center. In early December, the campaign began raining down allegations on the two Black women.

Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, falsely claimed that video footage showed the women engaging in “surreptitious illegal activity” and acting suspiciously, like drug dealers “passing out dope.” In early January, Trump himself singled out Freeman, by name, 18 times in a now-famous call in which he pressed Georgia officials to alter the state’s results. He called the 62-year-old temp worker a “professional vote scammer,” a “hustler” and a “known political operative” who “stuffed the ballot boxes.”

Freeman made a series of 911 emergency calls in the days after she was publicly identified in early December by the president’s camp. In a Dec. 4 call, she told the dispatcher she’d gotten a flood of “threats and phone calls and racial slurs,” adding: “It’s scary because they’re saying stuff like, ‘We’re coming to get you. We are coming to get you.’”

Two days later, a panicked Freeman called 911 again, after hearing loud banging on her door just before 10 p.m. Strangers had come the night before, too. She begged the dispatcher for assistance. “Lord Jesus, where’s the police?” she asked, according to the recording, obtained by Reuters in a records request. “I don’t know who keeps coming to my door.”

“Please help me.”
Report A_T December 5, 2021 2:20 PM GMT
Trump calls himself very stupid and corrupt

A sputtering Donald Trump, furious about what he baselessly claims was presidential election fraud, ended up including himself among the “very stupid” — or “very corrupt” — in the mangled syntax of a message he shared Saturday.

Trump used a double negative in a sentence posted by his paid aide Liz Harrington on her Twitter account, twisting the message into something likely the opposite of what he intended to say.

“Anybody that doesn’t think there wasn’t massive Election Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election is either very stupid, or very corrupt!” his message read.

Trump is someone who does not believe there was no massive election fraud, making him “either very stupid, or very corrupt,” according to his own message. He likely intended to refer to people who don’t believe there was massive election fraud.

Twitter critics loved it.
Report tobermory December 5, 2021 3:11 PM GMT
What were they doing with those ballot boxes ? Why were they under tables while the observers were there and then brought out when the observers had left? Why were they counting votes when they were the only people in the building?
Report politicspunter December 5, 2021 3:15 PM GMT
Who says any of this is true?
Report A_T December 5, 2021 3:17 PM GMT
"watch this video"
Report dave1357 December 5, 2021 3:26 PM GMT
ha ha tobermory's remaining credibility destroyed.
Report dave1357 December 5, 2021 3:30 PM GMT
trump people now admitting that telling the truth about trump's big lie could put them in jail

Former Trump Department of Justice (DOJ) official Jeffrey Clark’s plans to plead the Fifth to the House’s Jan. 6 committee could complicate the department's willingness to prosecute him for contempt of Congress even as it further hints at potential criminal activity by President Trump and others in his orbit.
Report tobermory December 5, 2021 3:31 PM GMT
OK so you guys don't know.
Report politicspunter December 5, 2021 3:32 PM GMT
Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, falsely claimed that video footage showed the women engaging in “surreptitious illegal activity” and acting suspiciously, like drug dealers “passing out dope.”
Report A_T December 5, 2021 3:39 PM GMT
Biden would like more audits so he can get more votes
Report dave1357 December 5, 2021 3:42 PM GMT
tobermory continues to embarrass himself with an inability to do the simplest research.
Report tobermory December 5, 2021 3:49 PM GMT
I did indeed research this Dave a while back. It was said to have been 'debunked'. But the debunking did not answer any of those questions.
Report A_T December 5, 2021 4:10 PM GMT
there were reports from Detroit that GOP observers were getting "mean looks" from poll workers.
Report politicspunter December 5, 2021 4:12 PM GMT
Did they GOP back Laugh
Report dave1357 December 5, 2021 5:42 PM GMT
the poll workers should be happy they didn't get shot in self defence!
Report tobermory December 6, 2021 5:04 PM GMT

Dec 5, 2021 -- 3:49PM, tobermory wrote:

I did indeed research this Dave a while back. It was said to have been 'debunked'. But the debunking did not answer any of those questions.

I researched it some more and still no answers to my questions. The 'independent fact checkers' only debunk irrelevant things, such as a water pipe bursting and 'suitcases'. I don't suppose AT or Dave can answer either.

Report A_T December 6, 2021 6:17 PM GMT
Why were they under tables while the observers were there and then brought out when the observers had left? Why were they counting votes when they were the only people in the building?

these things didn't happen.
Report dave1357 December 6, 2021 6:30 PM GMT
tobermory, you can wait for the result of the court case. I imagine that gateway pundit, a fav news source for the free thinkers, will be fighting all the way.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 6, 2021 7:31 PM GMT



Report A_T December 10, 2021 3:11 PM GMT
Appeals Court Rejects Trump’s Bid to Shield Material From Jan. 6 Inquiry

Dec. 9, 2021
WASHINGTON — A federal appeals court ruled on Thursday that Congress is entitled to see White House records related to the Capitol attack on Jan. 6, rejecting former President Donald J. Trump’s claim that he still has the power to keep the material secret.

In a 68-page ruling, a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia held that Congress’s oversight powers, backed by President Biden’s decision not to invoke executive privilege over the material, outweighed Mr. Trump’s residual secrecy powers.
Report politicspunter December 10, 2021 3:12 PM GMT
What has Trump got to hide?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- December 10, 2021 3:32 PM GMT
A bald patch?
Report A_T December 10, 2021 9:33 PM GMT
Jan. 6 panel subpoenas six who helped plan Trump rallies

WASHINGTON (AP) - The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection is subpoenaing six more people who the panel says were involved in the organization and planning of rallies that aimed to overturn Donald Trump's defeat in the 2020 presidential election.

The committee chairman, Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., said some worked to stage the events and "some appeared to have had direct communication" with then-President Trump as they were planning.

The subpoenas were issued to Robert "Bobby" Peede Jr. and Max Miller, who the committee says met with Trump in his private dining room on Jan. 4; Brian Jack, Trump's political director at the time; and rally organizers Bryan Lewis, Ed Martin and Kimberly Fletcher.

The rallies before and during the Jan. 6 riot are a major focus of the committee's investigation. Committee members have said they want to know who financed the events and whether organizers were in close touch with the White House and members of Congress as they planned the events.

At the largest Jan. 6 rally, on the Ellipse near the White House, Trump riled up the crowd and told them to "fight like hell." He said he would march to the Capitol with them, but he eventually returned to the White House.
Report A_T December 18, 2021 8:45 AM GMT
Republicans resist saying 3 simple words: ‘Joe Biden won’

They are just three little words, but they have become nearly impossible for many Republicans to say: “Joe Biden won.”

Eleven months after the Democrat’s inauguration, Republican lawmakers and candidates across the country are squirming and stumbling rather than acknowledging the fact of Biden’s victory in the 2020 presidential election. In debates and interviews, they offer circular statements or vague answers when asked whether they believe Biden won.

Yes or no?

In Minnesota this week, five GOP candidates for governor came up with 1,400 other words when asked by conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt for an answer.

On NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday, GOP Sen. Roger Marshall of Kansas would only concede: “Joe Biden was sworn into office.”

The hazy statements are one measure of election denialism within the Republican Party. Former President Donald Trump’s lies about a stolen election have so taken hold among GOP voters that many of the party’s candidates either believe them or fear the political repercussions of refuting Trump. That sets up a surreal dynamic for next year’s elections, where the toughest question posed to GOP candidates — particularly in primaries — may be one with a one-word answer that they’re reluctant to give.
Report A_T December 23, 2021 6:02 PM GMT
Capitol riot: Proud Boy pleads guilty and agrees to cooperate with authorities

An admitted member of the far-right Proud Boys group has pleaded guilty to felony charges over his involvement in the 6 January Capitol Hill riot.

Matthew Greene, 34, has also agreed to cooperate with the government. He is believed to be the first member of the group to do so.

Prosecutors say Mr Greene was in the "first wave" of rioters to cross police lines, though Mr Greene's lawyer claims he did not enter the Capitol building.

He now faces up to 51 months in prison.

While his charges - one count of obstruction of an official proceeding and one count of conspiracy to obstruct - carry a total potential penalty of up to 25 years in prison plus fine, Mr Greene will receive a shorter sentence as a part of his plea deal.
Report A_T January 1, 2022 5:46 PM GMT
First part of Texas’ 2020 election audit reveals few issues, echoes findings from review processes already in place

The Texas secretary of state’s office has released the first batch of results from its review into the 2020 general election, finding few issues despite repeated, unsubstantiated claims by GOP leaders casting doubts on the integrity of the electoral system.

The first phase of the review, released New Year’s Eve, highlighted election data from four counties — Harris, Dallas, Tarrant and Collin — that showed few discrepancies between electronic and hand counts of ballots in a sample of voting precincts. Those partial manual counts made up a significant portion of the results produced by the secretary of state, which largely focused on routine voter roll maintenance and post-election processes that were already in place before the state launched what it has labeled as a “full forensic audit.”
Report A_T January 2, 2022 12:45 PM GMT
Capitol rioters’ tears, remorse don’t spare them from jail

WASHINGTON (AP) — Florida business owner Robert Palmer cheered on the violence at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 before he joined the fray. Screaming obscenities, he hurled a wooden plank and a fire extinguisher at police officers trying to ward off the mob.

Nearly a year later, Palmer fought back tears when he faced the federal judge who sentenced him to more than five years in prison. He said he was “horrified, absolutely devastated” by what he had done.

“I’m just so ashamed that I was a part of that,” Palmer told U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan on Dec. 17 before she gave him the longest prison term for any rioter so far.
Report politicspunter January 21, 2022 7:11 PM GMT
Read the never-issued Trump order that would have seized voting machines
Report politicspunter May 20, 2022 10:26 AM BST
NBC Politics
· 12h
EXCLUSIVE: Michigan’s top election official says she was told President Trump had suggested in a WH meeting that she be arrested for treason and executed after she refused to overturn 2020 presidential election results.
Report Stickywickets May 20, 2022 10:34 AM BST

It is treason and the punishment is fair

When the Reps pick up 100 seats, let's hope they have some balls and start to squeeze these traitors
Report politicspunter May 20, 2022 10:40 AM BST
Ah jucel/timber/sticky, you would have thought that you would have learned your lesson after being wiped out backing Trump/Trump to win battleground states/backing Trump to win a ludicrous amount of electoral college votes, but sadly not.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 20, 2022 3:49 PM BST

Report politicspunter May 25, 2022 7:18 PM BST
Trump Said to Have Reacted Approvingly to Jan. 6 Chants About Hanging Pence
The House committee investigating the Capitol assault has heard accounts of the former president’s remarks as he watched the riot unfold on television.
Shortly after hundreds of rioters at the Capitol started chanting “Hang Mike Pence!” on Jan. 6, 2021, the White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows, left the dining room off the Oval Office, walked into his own office and told colleagues that President Donald J. Trump was complaining that the vice president was being whisked to safety.

Mr. Meadows, according to an account provided to the House committee investigating Jan. 6, then told the colleagues that Mr. Trump had said something to the effect of, maybe Mr. Pence should be hung.

It is not clear what tone Mr. Trump was said to have used. But the reported remark was further evidence of how extreme the rupture between the president and his vice president had become, and of how Mr. Trump not only failed to take action to call off the rioters but appeared to identify with their sentiments about Mr. Pence — whom he had unsuccessfully pressured to block certification of the Electoral College results that day — as a reflection of his own frustration at being unable to reverse his loss.

The account of Mr. Trump’s comment was initially provided to the House committee by at least one witness, according to two people briefed on their work, as the panel develops a timeline of what the president was doing during the riot.
Another witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to Mr. Meadows who was present in his office when he recounted Mr. Trump’s remarks, was asked by the committee about the account and confirmed it, according to the people familiar with the panel’s work. It was not immediately clear how much detailed information Ms. Hutchinson provided. She has cooperated with the committee in three separate interviews after receiving a subpoena.

A lawyer for Mr. Meadows said he has “every reason to believe” that the account of what Mr. Meadows said “is untrue.”

Taylor Budowich, a spokesman for Mr. Trump, criticized the committee’s work. “This partisan committee’s vague ‘leaks,’ anonymous testimony and willingness to alter evidence proves it’s just an extension of the Democrat smear campaign that has been exposed time and time again for being fabricated and dishonest,” he said. “Americans are tired of the Democrat lies and the charades, but, sadly, it’s the only thing they have to offer.”

Mr. Budowich did not address the substance of the information provided to the committee.

A lawyer for Ms. Hutchinson did not respond to a message seeking comment.  A spokesman for the committee declined to comment.
Mr. Pence resisted weeks of pressure from Mr. Trump and some of his allies to use his ceremonial role in overseeing Congress’s certification of the electoral votes on Jan. 6 to block or delay Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory. Despite being told by Mr. Pence and his advisers that they did not believe that the vice president had that power, Mr. Trump continued to apply pressure, privately and publicly, through that morning.

Mr. Trump denounced Mr. Pence’s unwillingness to go along with the effort during his rally at the Ellipse just before the Electoral College certification began in the Capitol.

“We want to be so respectful of everybody,” Mr. Trump said in a slashing speech in which he attacked various people and institutions for not cooperating with his desires. “And we are going to have to fight much harder. And Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us, and if he doesn’t, that will be a sad day for our country. Because you’re sworn to uphold our Constitution.”

A short time later, Mr. Trump’s supporters marched up to the Capitol on his encouragement. Some chanted “Hang Mike Pence!” as a gallows was set up outside the Capitol building. Mr. Pence, who had arrived earlier at the Capitol, was taken to safety in an underground garage as the top congressional leadership of both parties was evacuated.

Mr. Trump, watching television throughout the riot, spoke approvingly of those chants as he discussed them with Mr. Meadows and possibly other aides, according to the testimony that the committee has heard.

The panel is trying to develop a report portraying the events as part of Mr. Trump’s quest to stay in office, including how he stoked anger at his loss among his supporters and redirected it against Mr. Pence and members of Congress during what is typically a routine certification process.

The committee has also gathered testimony that Mr. Meadows used the fireplace in his office to burn documents, according to two people briefed on the panel’s questions. The committee has asked witnesses about how Mr. Meadows handled documents and records after the election.

Report casemoney May 29, 2022 6:17 PM BST
PP posted this on Pokers thread  as Proof of bets , Is there actually a bet posted on here ?
Report casemoney May 29, 2022 6:17 PM BST
PP posted this on Pokers thread  as Proof of bets , Is there actually a bet posted on here ?
Report casemoney May 29, 2022 6:19 PM BST
POST your bets PP lets see all these big winning bets you have placed ,Someone copy an Paste 

The freeloader has me Blocked ,  lets see his bets posted on here ,he was quick enough ripping

into Poker for no reason .
Report A_T May 29, 2022 6:21 PM BST
case still backing his hero trump for the 2020 election
Report politicspunter May 29, 2022 6:27 PM BST
Trump to become President before 2025

This is the market for Case right here.
Report casemoney May 29, 2022 6:27 PM BST
Tell him to post his Bets AT , he loves attacking people on here ,Lets see his Bets that he won Fortunes on ?
Report politicspunter June 11, 2022 2:20 PM BST
Capitol riot hearing: Trump dismisses daughter Ivanka's testimony

Former US President Donald Trump has hit back at his daughter Ivanka after she distanced herself from his unfounded claims of mass voter fraud.

A probe into the 2021 US Capitol riots on Thursday aired a previously unseen clip of Ms Trump rejecting the claims.

Mr Trump said Ivanka had not been looking at election results and "had long since checked out".

Democrats argue the mob attack on Congress was the culmination of a months-long attempted coup by Mr Trump.

Graphic footage and testimony of the 6 January 2021 raid on the Capitol in Washington DC was televised on Thursday by the US House of Representatives select committee.

The prime-time hearing drew 20 million viewers on the TV networks.

The broadcast included a clip of testimony by former US Attorney General Bill Barr saying he had repeatedly dismissed the outgoing president's claims that mass voter fraud had caused him to lose the election.

Another excerpt was aired of Ivanka Trump's interview from April with the committee when she was asked about her reaction to Mr Barr's assessment.

"It affected my perspective," Ms Trump said. "I respect Attorney General Barr so I accepted what he was saying."
Mr Trump responded on his social media site, Truth Social, on Friday, labelling the inquiry a "WITCH HUNT!"

"Ivanka Trump was not involved in looking at, or studying, Election results," he added.

"She had long since checked out and was, in my opinion, only trying to be respectful to Bill Barr and his position as Attorney General (he sucked!)."

The president also lambasted Mr Barr as a "coward", while continuing to insist the election was "****".

Ms Trump was a presidential adviser in her father's administration and accompanied him to the rally that he hosted outside the White House just before the US Capitol attack unfolded.

A handful of voter fraud cases have been prosecuted since the November 2020 election, but no concrete evidence has emerged of such criminal activity on any scale that could have swayed President Joe Biden's victory.

The House select committee will hold another five hearings over the coming fortnight.

Next Monday's session will attempt to show that Mr Trump and his inner circle knew he had lost the election, but spread claims of voter fraud anyway.

The panel has conducted 1,000 interviews and gathered 140,000 documents over the year-long inquiry.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 28, 2022 7:48 PM BST
Minutes before Donald Trump took the stage at an Ellipse rally on Jan. 6, 2021, he urged the Secret Service to remove security magnetometers to let in people with weapons because “they’re not here to hurt me,” a former top White House aide told the Jan. 6 select committee on Tuesday.

Cassidy Hutchinson also testified to the panel about concerns raised by her former boss, then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, about 100 hours before a violent mob stormed the Capitol on the day Trump had marked to subvert the 2020 election.

Things might get real, real bad,” Hutchinson recalled Meadows telling her on Jan. 2, 2021.

Hutchinson’s comments came at the outset of an explosive public hearing of the select committee focused on her insights into the machinations by Trump, Meadows and their allies in the runup to Jan. 6. Her knowledge, informed by being present in nearly every meeting involving Meadows during the post-election period, have quickly propelled Hutchinson into a prominent role for Capitol riot investigators.

Hutchinson’s knowledge of the post-election campaign by Donald Trump loyalists to keep him in power for a second term he didn’t win — an awareness belied by her young age — already has proven highly valuable to the panel and helped it fill in details previously obscured by stonewalling. Her testimony, hastily announced by the committee the previous day, is expected to bring America inside the West Wing as Trump, Meadows, and their allies tried to reverse Joe Biden’s victory.

Almost all, if not all, meetings Mr. Trump had, I had insight on,” Hutchinson has told the committee.

Capitol riot investigators have revealed significant portions of Hutchinson’s prior testimony in litigation and in previous hearings. Hutchinson was present, she told the committee, when then-White House counsel Pat Cipollone told Meadows and Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani that a Trump-backed plan to appoint alternate presidential electors was legally unsound. She was there when Meadows convened members of the pro-Trump House Freedom Caucus to strategize about challenging the election results on Jan. 6, 2021.

And she tracked Trump and Meadows’ movements on Jan. 6 itself, providing detail about Trump’s whereabouts as chaos began to unfold at the Capitol.

A person familiar with Hutchinson’s expected testimony said she was involved in logistical discussions about potentially moving Trump from his Ellipse rally on the morning of Jan. 6 to the Capitol, where he had hoped to rally supporters until he was blocked by the Secret Service for security reasons. Hutchinson was also backstage during the rally and witnessed conversations among senior staff.

She told the committee about a stressed Meadows taking multiple calls during the rally from a secure vehicle; she remembered Trump’s chief of staff asking to connect with Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Giuliani.
I know that he was on several calls during the rally. And I went over to meet with him at one point, and he had just waved me away, which is out of the ordinary,” Hutchinson recalled.

She also told the committee she’d heard of Trump’s Jan. 6 movements on a Secret Service radio channel that broadcast his location to West Wing aides. That channel helped her discern that Trump was in the Oval Office dining room after his rally speech on the Ellipse.

The select committee has relied on Hutchinson, 26, and other West Wing aides to reconstruct Trump’s actions that day, particularly while the Capitol was under assault and the president took no discernible steps to stop the violence.

Tuesday’s hearing is the panel’s sixth as it presents its findings to the public. Investigators had rescheduled two hearings to mid-July focused on domestic extremism and Trump’s 187 minutes of inaction as his supporters ransacked the Capitol and threatened the lives of lawmakers and then-Vice President Mike Pence.

It’s unclear if any other witnesses will join Hutchinson Tuesday afternoon.

Documentary filmmaker Alex Holder, who had extensive access to the Trump family, met with investigators last Thursday morning after getting subpoenaed by the select panel for his recordings and testimony, which he provided. A Holder spokesman declined to comment on any possible role in Tuesday’s hearing.

The select committee has focused its public hearings squarely on Trump. Its first hearing laid out what the panel described as a seven-part effort by the former president to overturn the 2020 election.

Subsequent hearings have focused on elements of the plot it’s seeking to portray: how the Justice Department and Trump campaign debunked false voter fraud claims even as the then-president kept repeating them; how Trump systematically pressured Pence to seek to overturn the election on Jan. 6; how Trump leaned on state and local election officials to appoint alternative electors; and how Trump pressured his DOJ to legitimize the effort.
Report A_T August 12, 2022 8:11 PM BST
Trump supporter who called Capitol cops 'weasels' on Jan. 6 sentenced to prison

WASHINGTON — A Capitol rioter who pushed against a police line on Jan. 6 before storming the building and calling the police officers "little f--king spineless f--king oath violating little f--king weasels" was sentenced to eight months in federal prison on Friday.
Report Timber August 12, 2022 8:13 PM BST
AT cheering it on like a good little bootlicker
Report A_T August 12, 2022 8:17 PM BST
Report A_T August 20, 2022 10:42 AM BST
Graham effort to delay testimony in election probe rejected

ATLANTA (AP) — A federal judge on Friday said Sen. Lindsey Graham’s appearance before a special grand jury investigating whether then-President Donald Trump and others illegally tried to influence the 2020 election in Georgia should not be delayed to allow him to continue to challenge it in court.

Earlier this week, U.S. District Judge Leigh Martin May ordered Graham to honor his subpoena for the special grand jury. Graham’s attorneys appealed that order to the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals and asked May to stay her ruling and prohibit the special grand jury from questioning him while that appeal plays out. May declined that request in her order on Friday.
Report A_T August 23, 2022 7:52 PM BST
2 men convicted in plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Whitmer

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (AP) — A jury on Tuesday convicted two men of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in 2020, delivering swift verdicts in a plot that was broken up by the FBI and described as a rallying cry for a U.S. civil war by anti-government extremists.

The result was a big victory for the U.S. Justice Department. A different jury just four months ago couldn’t reach a unanimous decision on Adam Fox and Barry Croft Jr. but acquitted two other men, a stunning conclusion that led to a second trial.

Fox and Croft were convicted of two counts of conspiracy related to the kidnapping scheme and attempts to obtain a weapon of mass destruction. Prosecutors said they wanted to blow up a bridge to disrupt police if the abduction could be pulled off at Whitmer’s vacation home.

Croft, 46, a trucker from Bear, Delaware, was also convicted of another explosives charge. The jury deliberated for roughly eight hours over two days.

“Today’s verdicts prove that violence and threats have no place in our politics and those who seek to divide us will be held accountable. They will not succeed,” said Whitmer, a Democrat, who turned 51 years old on Tuesday.

“But we must also take a hard look at the status of our politics,” she added. “Plots against public officials and threats to the FBI are a disturbing extension of radicalized domestic terrorism that festers in our nation, threatening the very foundation of our republic.”
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Fox and Croft, who face sentences of up to life in prison, just stared at the jury as the verdicts were read. Defense attorney Christopher Gibbons shook his head while another defense lawyer, Joshua Blanchard, removed his glasses.

Jurors declined to speak to reporters outside the courthouse.

“We were hoping for a different outcome,” Gibbons said.
Report A_T August 27, 2022 8:04 AM BST
looks like the voting was indeed r i g g e d

Trump election probe in Georgia cites voting system breach

ATLANTA (AP) — The prosecutor investigating whether former President Donald Trump and others illegally tried to interfere in the 2020 election in Georgia is seeking information about the alleged involvement of a Trump ally in the breach of voting equipment at a county roughly 200 miles south of her Atlanta office.

The widening of the probe highlights the latest instance in which unauthorized people appear to have gained access to voting equipment since the 2020 election, primarily in battleground states lost by Trump. Election experts have raised concerns that sensitive information shared online about the equipment may have exposed vulnerabilities that could be exploited by people intent on disrupting future elections.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is seeking to have attorney Sidney Powell, who tried persistently to overturn Trump’s loss, testify before a special grand jury seated for the investigation into possible illegal election interference. In her court petition filed Thursday, Willis said Powell is “known to be affiliated” with Trump and the Trump campaign and has unique knowledge about her communications with them and others “involved in the multi-state, coordinated efforts to influence the results of the November 2020 elections in Georgia and elsewhere.”
Report tobermory August 28, 2022 7:18 PM BST
The 'Governor Kidnap Plot' is a miscarriage of justice.

There were more FBI agents than Trump supporters in the gang. And the FBI dreamt up the plot.
Report A_T August 28, 2022 7:25 PM BST
2 men convicted in plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Whitmer

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (AP) — A jury on Tuesday convicted two men of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in 2020, delivering swift verdicts in a plot that was broken up by the FBI and described as a rallying cry for a U.S. civil war by anti-government extremists.

The result was a big victory for the U.S. Justice Department. A different jury just four months ago couldn’t reach unanimous decisions on Adam Fox or Barry Croft Jr. but acquitted two other men, a stunning conclusion that led to a second trial.

Their arrests nearly two years ago came at an extremely tense time: the volatile homestretch of the election between Joe Biden and then-President Donald Trump playing out against a backdrop of armed protests over COVID-19 restrictions, especially in Michigan.

Jury selection in the retrial of Fox and Croft coincidentally occurred a day after FBI agents searched Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate for documents, putting the agency in headlines at the same time that the judge was trying to detect any biases about law enforcement in the jury pool.

Fox and Croft were convicted Tuesday of two counts of conspiracy related to the kidnapping scheme and attempts to use a weapon of mass destruction. Prosecutors said they wanted to blow up a bridge to disrupt police if the abduction could be pulled off at Whitmer’s vacation home.

Croft, 46, a trucker from Bear, Delaware, was also convicted of another explosives charge. The jury deliberated for roughly eight hours over two days.

“Today’s verdicts prove that violence and threats have no place in our politics and those who seek to divide us will be held accountable. They will not succeed,” said Whitmer, a Democrat, who turned 51 years old on Tuesday.

“But we must also take a hard look at the status of our politics,” she added. “Plots against public officials and threats to the FBI are a disturbing extension of radicalized dom
Report Timber August 28, 2022 7:30 PM BST
is there any nonsense that AT doesn't believe??
Another bent and corrupt judge who wouldn't allow any incriminating FBI collusion and practically forced the jury to find them guilty
Report tobermory August 28, 2022 7:49 PM BST
AT probably thinks FBI agents are uncorruptable, Gary Cooper type heroes.

Most of these sort of cases are the same; the FBI make up a crime, send undercover agents to incite and recruit people into the 'gang'. They spend ages trying to get people to agree to have some role in the fantasy crime (often by bribing them), and then charge then with conspiracy to kidnap or terrorism etc

Then the justice department charges them with 27 counts for basically the same thing, and the accused has to beat every charge or they're looking at decades in jail.

They've been doing this to black muslims since 9/11, virtually every 'terrorist plot' foiled by the FBI was created by the FBI.

Now they have turned Woke, they use the same tactics against MAGAs.
Report A_T August 28, 2022 7:52 PM BST
is there any nonsense that AT doesn't believe??

so Fox and Croft weren't convicted?
Report A_T August 28, 2022 7:56 PM BST
is all law enforcement corrupt? or just the ones that put your heroes in jail?
Report A_T August 29, 2022 7:27 PM BST
Rioter who encountered senator gets over 4 years in prison

A Maryland man affiliated with the far-right Proud Boys extremist group was sentenced on Monday to more than four years in prison for storming the U.S. Capitol, where authorities say he encountered Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer as his armed security detail led the New York Democrat to safety.
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