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On the 23rd of June 2016, the electorate of the United Kingdom made their way to polling stations.
33,551,982 votes were cast.
17,410,742 placed their cross in the box marked with the nebulous term of Leave.
16,141,241 placed their cross in the box marked with the clear term of Remain.
51.89% indicated a willingness to move forward towards an undefined future state with no defined plan.
48.11% indicated a willingness to move continue with existing arrangements, subject to future parliamentary events.
That was 1,219 days ago, approximately twice the gestation period of an elephant, elephants having the longest gestation period of all mammals.
There is an old saying that states that elephants never forget.
However, we now have two entire generations of elephants who can't even remember the glorious days of the bus in June 2016.
33,551,982 votes were cast.
17,410,742 placed their cross in the box marked with the nebulous term of Leave.
16,141,241 placed their cross in the box marked with the clear term of Remain.
51.89% indicated a willingness to move forward towards an undefined future state with no defined plan.
48.11% indicated a willingness to move continue with existing arrangements, subject to future parliamentary events.
That was 1,219 days ago, approximately twice the gestation period of an elephant, elephants having the longest gestation period of all mammals.
There is an old saying that states that elephants never forget.
However, we now have two entire generations of elephants who can't even remember the glorious days of the bus in June 2016.
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It is now 1,220 days since 51.89% of the participating electorate indicated a willingness to move forward towards an undefined future state with no defined plan.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
Meanwhile, there were 696,271 live births in England and Wales in 2016, 679,106 live births in England and Wales in 2017, and 657,076 live births in England and Wales in 2018.
That's over two million new citizens in England and Wales alone that are continuing to wait expectantly for a definition of the future state that is being planned for them.
Maybe, amongst them, are the individuals who can provide the urgently needed clarity on the enormous constitutional change that the nation remains unable to define.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
Meanwhile, there were 696,271 live births in England and Wales in 2016, 679,106 live births in England and Wales in 2017, and 657,076 live births in England and Wales in 2018.
That's over two million new citizens in England and Wales alone that are continuing to wait expectantly for a definition of the future state that is being planned for them.
Maybe, amongst them, are the individuals who can provide the urgently needed clarity on the enormous constitutional change that the nation remains unable to define.
It is now 1,220 days since 51.89% of the participating electorate indicated a willingness to move forward towards an undefined future state with no defined plan.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
Meanwhile, there were 525,048 registered deaths in England and Wales in 2016, 533,253 registered deaths in England and Wales in 2017, and 541,589 registered deaths in England and Wales in 2018.
That's approximately 1.6 million people in England and Wales alone that have passed away since they were asked to answer a question that still has been unable to provide a definition of the intended future state, nor a plan of how we would get there.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
Meanwhile, there were 525,048 registered deaths in England and Wales in 2016, 533,253 registered deaths in England and Wales in 2017, and 541,589 registered deaths in England and Wales in 2018.
That's approximately 1.6 million people in England and Wales alone that have passed away since they were asked to answer a question that still has been unable to provide a definition of the intended future state, nor a plan of how we would get there.
It is now 1,221 days since 51.89% of the participating electorate indicated a willingness to move forward towards an undefined future state with no defined plan.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
On May 13 1221, Emperor Juntoku was forced to abdicate, and was briefly succeeded by his 2-year-old son Emperor Chūkyō, on the throne of Japan.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
On May 13 1221, Emperor Juntoku was forced to abdicate, and was briefly succeeded by his 2-year-old son Emperor Chūkyō, on the throne of Japan.
wouldn't it be better to wait another 10 years to make sure
We have lived with remain for over 40 years. 17.4m voted for CHANGE.
How can it be democratic to just ignore them and carry on regardless ?
How can it be democratic to just ignore them and carry on regardless ?
However, we now have two entire generations of elephants who can't even remember the glorious days of the bus in June 2016.
We really dont. You'd be looking at around 20 years for two elephant generations.
Weasels would have been a better choice you could have had 8 generations of those.
You're welcome.
We really dont. You'd be looking at around 20 years for two elephant generations.
Weasels would have been a better choice you could have had 8 generations of those.
You're welcome.
JTG - Ignore them? The premise of the vote was flawed. It was said it was a binary choice & it went 52.89/48.11 but it wasn't a binary choice. The remainers lost by polling 48.11%. Now had they been the side that polled 51.89% that would have been the end of it because every single remain vote was on the understanding that we would remain full stop, there wan't a remain with/without a deal etc etc etc. However the leavers polled 51.89% but because the leave option wasn't a binary option (how many of their vote was for no deal, how many for a hard/soft/customs union/no Irish border/Irish border in the N Sea etc etc etc) we've been arguing ever since - and will continue to argue because of this.
There were only two options on the ballot paper. Does that make all of the leave votes somehow invalid ?
We could only answer the question that was asked.
Let's just suppose that Remain do win a 2nd Referendum by 52% - 48%....That's still a big chunk of the population unhappy and voting for CHANGE.
We are a democratic nation - What compromises will be offered up to the 48% by ways of increasing our control over our sovereignty , laws, money , borders etc. ?
I'll tell you - Precisely NOTHING - everything will just carry on exactly as before.
And you reckon that's OK ? - Long live democracy !!
We could only answer the question that was asked.
Let's just suppose that Remain do win a 2nd Referendum by 52% - 48%....That's still a big chunk of the population unhappy and voting for CHANGE.
We are a democratic nation - What compromises will be offered up to the 48% by ways of increasing our control over our sovereignty , laws, money , borders etc. ?
I'll tell you - Precisely NOTHING - everything will just carry on exactly as before.
And you reckon that's OK ? - Long live democracy !!
The important thing is to get out by any means possible . Forget democracy , that’s no longer important in the U.K.
You asked two questions. If you re-read what I said I think you'll find that I've already answered them.
People ( remainers) are forgetting what the referendum was asking and what was meant to happen
We were meant to leave .... immediately , the morning after , as soon as the votes were in
We were meant to leave .... immediately , the morning after , as soon as the votes were in
There should have been no more payments to the EU from that date , and all eu MPs should have come home that morning after the referendum
Lee Ho Fooks post of 22.09 sums it up perfectly . Leave vote took no account of the technicalities involved in leaving . Remain campaign was not scary enough in warning of the problems involved in leaving , particularly in relation to Northern Ireland . And the presumption that regional circumstances would be subsidiary to overall voting was not spelled out sufficiently .
The argument for another vote is overwhelming . All the remain voters I know are happy to accept that a second leave vote should be honoured if it happens , but subject to Parliamentary approval in case the ERG lot hi jack the democratic process again in that circumstance . The people don't trust the Conservatives to negotiate a sensible fair leave deal . Boris and co just want to cliff jump for the hell of it . Most of them have parachutes , the rest of us don't .
The argument for another vote is overwhelming . All the remain voters I know are happy to accept that a second leave vote should be honoured if it happens , but subject to Parliamentary approval in case the ERG lot hi jack the democratic process again in that circumstance . The people don't trust the Conservatives to negotiate a sensible fair leave deal . Boris and co just want to cliff jump for the hell of it . Most of them have parachutes , the rest of us don't .
But it’s ok. We’ve wasted over 3 years
And are just now getting back to the start ... completely wasted years
And are just now getting back to the start ... completely wasted years
You see what we will do (or should do) on Oct 31 or jan 1
Is what we should have done all those years ago
And leave immediately the eu, sm , cu , ecj and stop freedom of movement
Nothing’s changed , we are just over 3 years late ..
Is what we should have done all those years ago
And leave immediately the eu, sm , cu , ecj and stop freedom of movement
Nothing’s changed , we are just over 3 years late ..
There has been no reason , and no point
In us being in the eu for these last three and a half years
No point at all
In us being in the eu for these last three and a half years
No point at all
I know plenty of people that voted remain even though they felt there were plenty of changes that they would like to see to our future relationship with the EU , and to the manner in which the EU conduct themselves. On balance they felt the best option was to push for change from inside the EU.
So, don't kid yourselves that all remainers love everything about the EU.
Similarly there are plenty of leavers that appreciate loads of the good stuff that the EU has done , but on balance , over the longer term , feel that leave is the best option.
So, don't kid yourselves that all remainers love everything about the EU.
Similarly there are plenty of leavers that appreciate loads of the good stuff that the EU has done , but on balance , over the longer term , feel that leave is the best option.
So to Remain with no change is probably the most undemocratic option of all.
It is now 1,223 days since 51.89% of the participating electorate indicated a willingness to move forward towards an undefined future state with no defined plan.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
On August 6 1223, Louis VIII was crowned King of France.
He reigned until 1226, having previously reigned as King of England between 1216 and 1217.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
On August 6 1223, Louis VIII was crowned King of France.
He reigned until 1226, having previously reigned as King of England between 1216 and 1217.
You are seriously deluded , and in my opinion , make yourself look more than a little silly , if you believe all Remainers love everything about the EU.
"ALL leavers are confused and didn't know what they were voting for.
ALL Remainers are 100% believers in everything the EU does"
That appears to be your argument ...?
"ALL leavers are confused and didn't know what they were voting for.
ALL Remainers are 100% believers in everything the EU does"
That appears to be your argument ...?
You are allowing your beliefs to cloud the words I have posted.
Where have I suggested, let alone stated, that I believe "all Remainers love everything about the EU".?
I am very much a process driven individual who believes that good decision making is enhanced by defining a clear path of your intentions.
Clearly understand the current state, define your preferred future state, measure the gaps, determine if they can be bridged, if they can, proceed to define a plan that will take you there.
1,223 days after the referedunm, the government of the day remains unable to define the desired future state.
Or, alternatively, they have defined it but are unwilling to share that definition with the public.
Take back control is not a definition of a future state, it is most certainly not a detailed plan of how to get there.
It is a slogan, no more, no less. A slogan quite deliberately designed to appeal to the emotions of a public who feel that they have been left behind, designed to bypass logical analysis.
If you don't belief me, then listen to Dominic Cummings, the man widely acknowledged as having coined the slogan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDbRxH9Kiy4
Part of the problem is that we tend to believe that our beliefs are the truth, and that the truth is obvious. They often aren’t, it rarely is.
Learn to remain objective, begin to realise that many of your negative thoughts, feelings, and behaviours are caused by misunderstandings that can be avoided.
Where have I suggested, let alone stated, that I believe "all Remainers love everything about the EU".?
I am very much a process driven individual who believes that good decision making is enhanced by defining a clear path of your intentions.
Clearly understand the current state, define your preferred future state, measure the gaps, determine if they can be bridged, if they can, proceed to define a plan that will take you there.
1,223 days after the referedunm, the government of the day remains unable to define the desired future state.
Or, alternatively, they have defined it but are unwilling to share that definition with the public.
Take back control is not a definition of a future state, it is most certainly not a detailed plan of how to get there.
It is a slogan, no more, no less. A slogan quite deliberately designed to appeal to the emotions of a public who feel that they have been left behind, designed to bypass logical analysis.
If you don't belief me, then listen to Dominic Cummings, the man widely acknowledged as having coined the slogan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDbRxH9Kiy4
Part of the problem is that we tend to believe that our beliefs are the truth, and that the truth is obvious. They often aren’t, it rarely is.
Learn to remain objective, begin to realise that many of your negative thoughts, feelings, and behaviours are caused by misunderstandings that can be avoided.
"Leave = Nebulous
Remain = Clear.."
Biased opinion or not ?
Remain = Clear.."
Biased opinion or not ?
Once again, you are allowing your beliefs to cloud your judgement.
I have not stated that choosing to remain in the EU provides a clear path to anything.
I have not stated that choosing to remain in the EU provides a clear path to anything.
....I'm the one that allows my beliefs to cloud my judgement ...
Are there any parts of our relationship with the EU that you would like to be changed ?
...or is it just perfect ?..
Are there any parts of our relationship with the EU that you would like to be changed ?
...or is it just perfect ?..
Where have I stated that either Remain = Clear or that current arrangements are perfect?
It would be helpful if you could acknowledge that I have made no such statements.
As stated above, I am a process driven individual.
This results in a strong belief on evidence based decision making and the benefits of a continual improvement culture.
Do you share such beliefs, or do you belief that the best decisions are made out of blind ignorance?
It would be helpful if you could acknowledge that I have made no such statements.
As stated above, I am a process driven individual.
This results in a strong belief on evidence based decision making and the benefits of a continual improvement culture.
Do you share such beliefs, or do you belief that the best decisions are made out of blind ignorance?
It is now 1,224 days since 51.89% of the participating electorate indicated a willingness to move forward towards an undefined future state with no defined plan.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
However, we do have an estimate prepared by the National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR).
They have reported that Johnson's Brexit deal would leave the UK £70bn worse off than if it remained in the EU.
They concluded that GDP would be 3.5% lower in 10 years' time under the proposed deal.
The independent forecaster's outlook is one of the first assessments of how the economy will fare under the proposed deal.
NIESR said approval of the prime minister's deal "would reduce the risk of a disorderly outcome, but eliminate the possibility of a closer trading relationship with the EU".
Despite the agreement between the EU and the UK removing uncertainty, customs and regulatory barriers would "hinder goods and services trade with the continent leaving all regions of the United Kingdom worse off than they would be if the UK stayed in the EU," NIESR said.
"We estimate that, in the long run, the economy would be 3.5% smaller with the deal compared to continued EU membership," it added.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
However, we do have an estimate prepared by the National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR).
They have reported that Johnson's Brexit deal would leave the UK £70bn worse off than if it remained in the EU.
They concluded that GDP would be 3.5% lower in 10 years' time under the proposed deal.
The independent forecaster's outlook is one of the first assessments of how the economy will fare under the proposed deal.
NIESR said approval of the prime minister's deal "would reduce the risk of a disorderly outcome, but eliminate the possibility of a closer trading relationship with the EU".
Despite the agreement between the EU and the UK removing uncertainty, customs and regulatory barriers would "hinder goods and services trade with the continent leaving all regions of the United Kingdom worse off than they would be if the UK stayed in the EU," NIESR said.
"We estimate that, in the long run, the economy would be 3.5% smaller with the deal compared to continued EU membership," it added.
There was never any doubt that leaving the EU would have a cost. It was made clear to us all in the Government guidance issued to 27m homes.
The people obviously decided it was a price they were prepared to pay.
Better to be a poorer free man than a wealthier oppressed slave.
The people obviously decided it was a price they were prepared to pay.
Better to be a poorer free man than a wealthier oppressed slave.
They can't get forecasts correct for this year, they don't have a clue for ten years.
You do make me laugh Johnny, but still waiting for your views on evidence based decision making and the benefits of a continual improvement culture.
£70bn is still cheaper than propping up economically pariah EU member states annually at no less than £8bn - probably more given a possible European Army and admission of more economically pariah new EU members.
Economic forecasts are subject to (varying) parameters thus highly prone to inaccuracy and world events.
Economic forecasts are subject to (varying) parameters thus highly prone to inaccuracy and world events.
I'm all in favour of evidence based decision making and an improvement culture. I've used it all of my working life.
Consider options - decide on best course of action - implement - review outcomes - react and adjust etc - it's not rocket science.
Where we may well disagree is on the definition of 'evidence'. In my world evidence is based on facts not on opinions. (Although the opinions of people I respect will play a part of my decision making process - it would be foolish to totally ignore them ).
The only way we can gather evidence of what Leave really means is to start the implementation process and actually leave. We then can see properly the facts of the Leave reality over a reasonable period of time (not weeks or months but a reasonable number of years). This allows proper time for the changes in Government policies etc that will no doubt materialise to be properly assessed.
After a number of years , the Government / people can reassess based on the proper facts of Remain and the Leave reality.
That is democracy in action and what the people voted for in 2016.
Consider options - decide on best course of action - implement - review outcomes - react and adjust etc - it's not rocket science.
Where we may well disagree is on the definition of 'evidence'. In my world evidence is based on facts not on opinions. (Although the opinions of people I respect will play a part of my decision making process - it would be foolish to totally ignore them ).
The only way we can gather evidence of what Leave really means is to start the implementation process and actually leave. We then can see properly the facts of the Leave reality over a reasonable period of time (not weeks or months but a reasonable number of years). This allows proper time for the changes in Government policies etc that will no doubt materialise to be properly assessed.
After a number of years , the Government / people can reassess based on the proper facts of Remain and the Leave reality.
That is democracy in action and what the people voted for in 2016.
..oh ...and I'm glad I can put a smile on your face 
'undefined state'
How exactly were the leavers supposed to present a fully worked out deal in 2016 ?
Was the EU prepared to provide negotiators for several months to work out a deal for the hypothetical scenario in which Britain voted to leave ?
Who would the EU have negotiated with exactly ?
People voted to leave precisely without knowing exactly how it would work out in terms of deals etc. They just felt we would be better off out come what may.
How exactly were the leavers supposed to present a fully worked out deal in 2016 ?
Was the EU prepared to provide negotiators for several months to work out a deal for the hypothetical scenario in which Britain voted to leave ?
Who would the EU have negotiated with exactly ?
People voted to leave precisely without knowing exactly how it would work out in terms of deals etc. They just felt we would be better off out come what may.
And now another 'independent and respected' think tank, NIESR, is doom mongering.
A body that just happens to have its biggest contract with 'The People's Vote' campaign.
A body that just happens to have its biggest contract with 'The People's Vote' campaign.
I haven’t asked for a fully worked out deal, simply a reasonable picture of the concept.
Even today, we still don’t have it.
Either it’s being made up as they go, or they don’t want the public to know.
So thanks for confirming that no defined future state was available for the electorate in 2016.
Instead, they were asked to pick a card, any card, and we’ve spent three and a half years listening to them shout out guess after guess ever since.
Three of clubs?
No
Six of diamonds?
No
Nine of spades?
No
How about the four of hearts?
No
And we’ll keep rumbling along, stumbling in the dark, searching for the elusive magic formula, the one that turns water in to wine, base metals in to gold.
Just don’t hold your breath.
Even today, we still don’t have it.
Either it’s being made up as they go, or they don’t want the public to know.
So thanks for confirming that no defined future state was available for the electorate in 2016.
Instead, they were asked to pick a card, any card, and we’ve spent three and a half years listening to them shout out guess after guess ever since.
Three of clubs?
No
Six of diamonds?
No
Nine of spades?
No
How about the four of hearts?
No
And we’ll keep rumbling along, stumbling in the dark, searching for the elusive magic formula, the one that turns water in to wine, base metals in to gold.
Just don’t hold your breath.
It is now 1,225 days since 51.89% of the participating electorate indicated a willingness to move forward towards an undefined future state with no defined plan.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
Maker events that took place in the year 1225 included:
- The Teutonic Knights are expelled from Transylvania, because they wanted to separate from Hungary.
- The Magna Carta is reaffirmed (for the third time) by Henry III of England, in return for issuing a property tax.
- Iltutmish, the sultan of Delhi, repels a Mongol attack and marches against Ghiyasuddin, who cedes Bihar to him.
- July 27 – Visby Cathedral in Sweden is consecrated.
- December 31 – Lý Chiêu Hoàng, the only empress regnant in the history of Vietnam, marries Trần Thái Tông, making him the first emperor of the Trần Dynasty, at age seven.
Major events that will not take place on 31 October 2019 include the UK leaving the EU and the Prime Minister dying in a ditch.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
Maker events that took place in the year 1225 included:
- The Teutonic Knights are expelled from Transylvania, because they wanted to separate from Hungary.
- The Magna Carta is reaffirmed (for the third time) by Henry III of England, in return for issuing a property tax.
- Iltutmish, the sultan of Delhi, repels a Mongol attack and marches against Ghiyasuddin, who cedes Bihar to him.
- July 27 – Visby Cathedral in Sweden is consecrated.
- December 31 – Lý Chiêu Hoàng, the only empress regnant in the history of Vietnam, marries Trần Thái Tông, making him the first emperor of the Trần Dynasty, at age seven.
Major events that will not take place on 31 October 2019 include the UK leaving the EU and the Prime Minister dying in a ditch.
It is now 1,226 days since 51.89% of the participating electorate indicated a willingness to move forward towards an undefined future state with no defined plan.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
And today, we have Nigel Farage telling the nation that Johnson's deal is NOT Brexit.
Johnson will respond that his deal IS Brexit.
The only way that both of them can be correct is if, as I continue to state, Brexit remains undefined.
It wasn't defined 1,226 days ago, and it remains undefined today.
Oh what a circus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YInWq7qt4PA
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
And today, we have Nigel Farage telling the nation that Johnson's deal is NOT Brexit.
Johnson will respond that his deal IS Brexit.
The only way that both of them can be correct is if, as I continue to state, Brexit remains undefined.
It wasn't defined 1,226 days ago, and it remains undefined today.
Oh what a circus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YInWq7qt4PA
The EU are heading into a buffer, and have been since under the stewardship of Mr Juncker; Mr Juncker will soon be EU history, but unfortunately Mr Tusk and Mr Barnier are not reformists either.
It is now 1,234 days since 51.89% of the participating electorate indicated a willingness to move forward towards an undefined future state with no defined plan.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
And we also have a Prime Minister who continues to ramble incoherently on the implications of the treaty that he doesn't want anyone to read.
1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 10
and ten =
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS91knuzoOA
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
And we also have a Prime Minister who continues to ramble incoherently on the implications of the treaty that he doesn't want anyone to read.
1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 10
and ten =
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS91knuzoOA
It is now 1,239 days since 51.89% of the participating electorate indicated a willingness to move forward towards an undefined future state with no defined plan.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
Meanwhile, we are now just four weeks away from a general election that the government has been begging for, yet no sign of a manifesto and no sign of a process by which it will be produced and released.
Once again, it appears that the government doesn't want the public to have an opportunity to scrutinise their plans.
You might be forgiven for believing that they have something to hide, that they are trying to hoodwink the electorate.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
Meanwhile, we are now just four weeks away from a general election that the government has been begging for, yet no sign of a manifesto and no sign of a process by which it will be produced and released.
Once again, it appears that the government doesn't want the public to have an opportunity to scrutinise their plans.
You might be forgiven for believing that they have something to hide, that they are trying to hoodwink the electorate.
It is now 1,244 days since 51.89% of the participating electorate indicated a willingness to move forward towards an undefined future state with no defined plan.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
Meanwhile, we are now just 23 days from the third general election in 4 years.
Tonight, there will be a televised debate between Corbyn and Johnson.
We will repeatedly hear the hollow phrase Get Brexit Done which will quickly be followed by the phrase dither and delay.
We will continue not to be provided with clarity on the intended future state of the UK should we proceed to leave the EU.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
Meanwhile, we are now just 23 days from the third general election in 4 years.
Tonight, there will be a televised debate between Corbyn and Johnson.
We will repeatedly hear the hollow phrase Get Brexit Done which will quickly be followed by the phrase dither and delay.
We will continue not to be provided with clarity on the intended future state of the UK should we proceed to leave the EU.
get brexit done works for a sizeable part of the population 
It is now 1,267 days since 51.89% of the participating electorate indicated a willingness to move forward towards an undefined future state with no defined plan.
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
Meanwhile, there are just five and a half hours left to cast your vote in the third general election in just over four years.
I was preparing some data for a meeting just the other day that revealed that RPI has risen by 32% in the nine complete years between 2010 and 2018.
CPI has risen by 23% for the same period.
Average weekly earnings have fallen by 3%.
Benefit payments have been frozen since April 2015.
No such worries for the Chief Executives of UK water utilities.
Ian McAulay of Southern Water trousered total compensation of £1.1M for 2017/18 and £1.2M for 2018/19.
Deserves every penny mind, they are doing exemplary work at Southern Water.
In June 2019, the Water Services Regulation Authority (Ofwat) announced its intentions to issue Southern Water with a financial penalty of £37.7 million reduced exceptionally to £3 million for significant breaches of its licence conditions and statutory duties.
Following a lengthy investigation, Ofwat concluded that Southern Water deliberately misreported data about the performance of its wastewater treatment works. The investigation concluded that Southern Water had failed: to have adequate systems of planning, governance and internal controls in place to manage its wastewater treatment works; to accurately report information about the performance of these works; and to properly carry out its statutory duties as a sewerage undertaker, to make provision for effectually dealing with and treating wastewater.
Ofwat found that Southern Water's failure to operate its wastewater treatment works properly resulted in unpermitted and premature spills of wastewater from its treatment works, with wastewater being released into the environment before going through the required processes.
Following the investigation, Southern Water agreed to pay customers approximately £123 million by 2024, partly a payment of price review underperformance penalties the company avoided paying in the period 2010 to 2017 and some of which is a payment to customers for the failures found in Ofwat's investigation.
In response to Ofwat's findings, Southern Water announced that following its own internal review, which highlighted multiple failures between 2010 and 2017, it was 'profoundly sorry' and 'working very hard to understand past failings and implement the changes required' to ensure it meets the standards its customers deserve
Who do you suppose Ian will be voting for today
We continue to have an undefined future state, with no defined plan to take us there.
Meanwhile, there are just five and a half hours left to cast your vote in the third general election in just over four years.
I was preparing some data for a meeting just the other day that revealed that RPI has risen by 32% in the nine complete years between 2010 and 2018.
CPI has risen by 23% for the same period.
Average weekly earnings have fallen by 3%.
Benefit payments have been frozen since April 2015.
No such worries for the Chief Executives of UK water utilities.
Ian McAulay of Southern Water trousered total compensation of £1.1M for 2017/18 and £1.2M for 2018/19.
Deserves every penny mind, they are doing exemplary work at Southern Water.
In June 2019, the Water Services Regulation Authority (Ofwat) announced its intentions to issue Southern Water with a financial penalty of £37.7 million reduced exceptionally to £3 million for significant breaches of its licence conditions and statutory duties.
Following a lengthy investigation, Ofwat concluded that Southern Water deliberately misreported data about the performance of its wastewater treatment works. The investigation concluded that Southern Water had failed: to have adequate systems of planning, governance and internal controls in place to manage its wastewater treatment works; to accurately report information about the performance of these works; and to properly carry out its statutory duties as a sewerage undertaker, to make provision for effectually dealing with and treating wastewater.
Ofwat found that Southern Water's failure to operate its wastewater treatment works properly resulted in unpermitted and premature spills of wastewater from its treatment works, with wastewater being released into the environment before going through the required processes.
Following the investigation, Southern Water agreed to pay customers approximately £123 million by 2024, partly a payment of price review underperformance penalties the company avoided paying in the period 2010 to 2017 and some of which is a payment to customers for the failures found in Ofwat's investigation.
In response to Ofwat's findings, Southern Water announced that following its own internal review, which highlighted multiple failures between 2010 and 2017, it was 'profoundly sorry' and 'working very hard to understand past failings and implement the changes required' to ensure it meets the standards its customers deserve
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