Constituents back Labour rebel Caroline Flint

I think the tories will win her seat.

Any Labour MP with an ounce of intelligence and integrity would never have voted for the Letwin Amendment, why? To uphold the result of The Referendum and Democracy, simple!. Unless of course one is S(stupid) Kinnock (family induced perhaps) who spouted support for the result of The Referendum in public yet voted for the Amendment; his family was in The EU feeding trough for yonks, and very possibly in the future again. Easy money!

I had already flagged this up via her twitter.

Is that it? I don't know enough about the selection process but it has been suggested in recent days that the NEC would move to prevent anyone who backed the deal standing as a Labour candidate.

NEC = No Effing Clue - they really don't. They are bumbling along pretending issues would go away by themselves; deselecting Labour MPs who supported Democracy? Another own goal, seems to be their fav pastime.

NEC = No Effing Clue!

differentdrum are you a Labour Party activist?

Caroline repesenting her constituents,68% leave vote in Don Valley.
Shame other Labour MP'S in other big leaving areas didn't.

Out comes the other spare account..

REPRESENT YOUR LEAVE VOTE ARE JUST SOUNDBITES,go back in 12 months and explain to same people why their jobs,safety at work,etc etc are unxer pressure,do you think you voted for it suck it up ,will work
raahb on today saying we,re a nation of small business who cant handle all the workers rights,film from 2014 of Johnson saying theres 8.5 billions worth of rights he,d like to get rid of,truzz would only like to get rid of 4.5 billions worth
having just come in I would imagine one of the 1st in their sights is to change auto enrolment regs for buisness

There is no guarantee of jobs and prosperity by staying in the EU. An assumed fallacy of remainers.

No one claiming any guarantees either way.
If you have evidence to the contrary, please feel free to bring it forward.

Patently obvious by now it is the opposite. Employment prospects, wages and conditions will sky rocket outside the EU.

The remain camp repeatedly says we will be worse off outside the EU often embellished with phrases such as cliff edge and car crash, all the proof you need that they assume we would be better off in.

More and more people are classed as self employed now,so workers rights means sweet fa to them.
They voted leave,they should have leave.That's how democracy should work.
If it turns out to be different to what they thought that's tough.
Same thing has happened loads of times,Liberal voters in 2010,me voting for Blair in 97.

that's why uber workers,plumbers for Charlie muggins,courier,s, spent 13 months a year fighting cases in court for paid leave,holidays,sick pay,maternity pay etc etc,BECAUSE THEY DONT GIVE A sweet fa,
there,s some ignorant loons about in their ivory towers or smelly bedrooms

Oct 20, 2019 -- 7:47PM, Foinavon wrote:

The remain camp repeatedly says we will be worse off outside the EU often embellished with phrases such as cliff edge and car crash, all the proof you need that they assume we would be better off in.

Clutching at straws there.

Just show me one example where someone has GUARANTEED that continued EU membership would result in better financial outcomes than leaving the EU.

rees mugg sayed will might be better orf in 50 years time

why so negative angoose?

we, not will


he, of course, will be squids in from day one..

do realise how far the debate has gone ,changed direction immigration was number one topic during reff ,farage poster etc,farage interviewed 3 times this week never once mentioned freedom of movement once

LOL,the biggest thing to shaft couriers wages was free movement from Eastern Europe in 2004.
it's a numbers game,paid by the job,only so much pie to go round.

when all these non eu immigrants are brought in post brexit they
will say it was never about immigration

but the forum will be revolting

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27284489

There are jobs about more evident in the bigger towns or cities - just take a look around. Creativity could work wonders for those slightly work-shy or less applied.

There is no guarantee, angoose, you are twisting words.

Foinavon
20 Oct 19 19:38
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There is no guarantee of jobs and prosperity by staying in the EU. An assumed fallacy of remainers.

Oct 20, 2019 -- 7:38PM, Foinavon wrote:

There is no guarantee of jobs and prosperity by staying in the EU. An assumed fallacy of remainers.

You introduced the word guarantee, suggesting that it was being claimed that EU membership provided guarantees of jobs and prosperity.

do you not understand a negative?

I'm all for The EU prior to 2004 with just 15 members when European Economic Development was the main objective. edges European Supremacy. Now, it's European Supremacy takign centre stage before anything else. Next in line to join The EU is Albania - does anyone know where Albania is? I do not. Post Albania, it could be Montenegro. I'm totally flummoxed where this place is. Am I alone?

Foinavon, you clearly suggested that remainers mistakenly believe that EU membership provides guarantees.
Read your own words.

Agree with that impossible.

North Macedonia is interested too. They are in the Balkans just north of Greece.

impossible123, once again displaying remarkable ignorance.
I would expect that my 5 year old son could pick out Albania on a map, quite sad that you remain unable to do so.

I suspect many of them think things will carry on the same as now.

surprising that anybody can switch on a computer , post drivel for months, and not know where albania is.

maybe the express or fail, espouses forwarding this view?

Oct 20, 2019 -- 8:41PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:

surprising that anybody can switch on a computer , post drivel for months, and not know where albania is.

Surely he must have heard of King Zog?

But Turkey are not...how is that possible? Turkey could "swallow up" metaphorically speaking (not militarily) nearly everyone of the new minnow EU member states except Poland. And, its economy is many multiples of these pariah EU members too; Turkey would be an ideal EU member state in my opinion. Could it be The EU bureaucrats and Presidents are afraid of Turkey? I wonder what that might be.

Oct 20, 2019 -- 8:47PM, impossible123 wrote:

But Turkey are not...how is that possible? Turkey could "swallow up" metaphorically speaking (not militarily) nearly everyone of the new minnow EU member states except Poland. And, its economy is many multiples of these pariah EU members too; Turkey would be an ideal EU member state in my opinion. Could it be The EU bureaucrats and Presidents are afraid of Turkey? I wonder what that might be.

Go on, you must have heard of King Zog ?

Norman Wisdom was their celebrity, our jails are full of them already.

Oct 20, 2019 -- 9:52PM, treetop wrote:

Norman Wisdom was their celebrity, our jails are full of them already.

Of course, he was a huge star there. I think it was to do with being a very strict communist country, they didn't have many western films but Norman clowning around a department store made him a superstar in their eyes.

whilst being in the eu thousands of jobs have been exported abroad with the help of eu money

but they don't like to talk about it

the performance of the eurozone is not a popular subject

neither is the massive youth unemplyment in southern eu countries

neither is the large imbalance of unemplyment  - german verses  the rest

neither is the state of the teetering german economy

or the worry in germany that they will be picking up all the bills

DO YOU WANT TO KNOW ANYMORE?

whilst being in the eu thousands of jobs have been exported abroad with the help of eu money

but they don't like to talk about it

the performance of the eurozone is not a popular subject

neither is the massive youth unemplyment in southern eu countries

neither is the large imbalance of unemplyment  - german verses  the rest

neither is the state of the teetering german economy

or the worry in germany that they will be picking up all the bills

DO YOU WANT TO KNOW ANYMORE?

I want to know more about the protests in Madrid and Barcelona.
I want to know more about the protests in Paris and other French cities.
I want to know more about why our mass media won't show them or discuss them and the police brutality there while going on at great length about Hong Kong.

flint will win with a increase in her majority..she is a fine constituency mp..that means a lot in these places i assure you..her meeting in her constituency over brexit was packed (over 300) she received a standing ovation from voters of all parties..i understand people ARE worried about if her vote was split..but im told brexit party wont run against her...

That's good news Tony.
Remainers argue that the public should vote again this time with all the facts about the EU. It would seem though, there are some facts which they don't want the general public to be fully aware of.

were her constituents told they,ll be having 5 years at least having a hard right tory party

Hard right?

You want hard right try Bulgaria.

Bulgaria would deport raahb,patel and truzz

i don't trust a tory as far as i could throw them..especially boris...but this fear attack about workers rights is just that fear..all it means is WE IN THE UK take responsibility for our rights..considering we had many before we joined the eu..im not worried...its a sad fact that some on my side of the rail believe the eu is good for union rights ...they really have not read up..as i say to many...IF we elect a socialist government ..we have no worries...the eu couldn't save us from the tories the last 10 yrs...indeed they helped them with austerity..

poor workers rights,heath and safety at work etc don't apply to all people voting in elections,
clip from 2014 on tv yesterday saying Johnson would burn 8,5 billion,s worth of regulation red tape as he calls it,as someone who worked a lifetime in  dangerous occupation red tape as they call it saves lives, truzz would only like to get rid of 4.5 billions worth of regs

Lol a massive tory majority whos going to stop them doing what they want,blatantly obvious where workers rights are going to go down the sh1thiuse..or maybe they want to see millions on strike back to the 80s..

Austerity is a Conservative political choice. The UN said so in November 2018.

don't forget smart rights

in other words its smart to take our job offer or foook off,

amazon in news todays accused of been modern day slave masters in same week their running adverts inviting people to go on tours of their warehouses,i,m assuming these must be a factory dressed up to nines with workers either forced or paid to play the lemmings and tell visitors what a great place it is to work

The midlands and north turkeys voting for christmas yet again,will they never learn won't effect me infact i will be saying told you si in a couple of years time with a rye smile..

I,m the same but have a son offshore fighting tooth and nail to keep their rota and regs intact which were brought after piper alpha,
you only have to look rules and regs through out the window by billionaires that caused the death of a footballer,thats with rulenregs in place give them a blank sheet of paper and people like amazon,ashley would bring chimney sweeps back, look at the pay, hours,  conditions,abuse people have to take working in kitchens of millionaire chefs

flint is a remainer if 60% of her constituents decided to do anyone of a million things she disagreed with,would she say get on with it or try to change their minds, if they said they,d like to replace her with a tory/brexiteer would she say fair enough I,ll resign
if 60% of her constituents say we should invade Syria will she be going to commons and asking for an urgent question.

I think well over 60% of the whole electorate say this whole parliament should resign, would she resign on the spot

does she go to the commons in future arguing for something the 40% want as some sort of booby prize

I think at best she is an even money shot to hold this.

like mann she,s in an easy position what would she be saying if her constituents had voted remain or 50/50

Is Caroline Flint acting for constituents' interests or her own?

Caroline Flint operates under this umbrella:

https://www.prosperity-uk.com/aacabout/

A soft place to fall if her parliamentary career falters.

If you look at her constituency, it's 69% leave, 31% remain. In the event of a snap general election where Brexit is the key issue, who are the 31% remain voters likely to now vote for? Flint has made her position clear, she is a leaver and will vote with the government. She is fortunate that the LibDems don't strictly count here and she has obviously taken that into consideration when deciding her stance. However, now we may have 31% of her electorate effectively homeless in a general election.

I would suggest that the vast majority of those remain voters supported her in the 2017 general election. If they don't do so again, she is out by a landslide.

And I have just checked and the Greens have put up a candidate which they haven't previously. That will drain her votes.

Destroyed on twitter as well,these mps that are backing the deal might be in for a shock..

Caroline Flint is so owned on twitter, lol

Labour MP for Don Valley. Wife, mum, feminist, film lover, love a scotch egg and politics - not always in that order. Email: caroline.flint.mp@parliament.uk

Fabergé eggs more like, if https://www.prosperity-uk.com/aacabout/
reward their useful idiots.

She may lose her seat but she won't be out of work.

The twaterrati have a high opinion of their worth

She likes a tv camera. I doubt that she has ever declined an interview.

Reminds me of the fading actress having one last hurrah.

sunset boulevard

lol