Politics
25% chance of 'no deal' Brexit
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Farming not exporting! What planet are you on. We import as well but we also export a lot and would like to export more if we are allowed to do so. I still maintain that what ever short term problems ensue from Brexit, it will quickly be sorted between buyers and sellers who will find a way. Our fishing industry also exports a large proportion of its catch. The biggest problem for farming and fishing is staff. They need to lobby hard for an exemption from the £30k limit for immigrants. Very few British youths are willing to get wet never mind dirty. Horse trainers are in the same dilemma.
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sageform
15 Feb 19 08:24 Joined: 15 Jun 01 | Topic/replies: 13,332 | Blogger: sageform's blog Farming not exporting! What planet are you on. We import as well but we also export a lot and would like to export more if we are allowed to do so. I still maintain that what ever short term problems ensue from Brexit, it will quickly be sorted between buyers and sellers who will find a way. Our fishing industry also exports a large proportion of its catch. The biggest problem for farming and fishing is staff. They need to lobby hard for an exemption from the £30k limit for immigrants. Very few British youths are willing to get wet never mind dirty. Horse trainers are in the same dilemma. ^ Why should the rest of society give subsidies to those businesses? |
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Where exactly have I mentioned subsidy. It is the EU that pays subsidies to protect their farmers(including UK) from competition. If they are not allowed to use foreign labour a lot of crops will be rotting in the fields.
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Farmers could always pay a living wage to British staff.
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As I have said, try persuading any young British person to get up at 6 or 7 am and get wet and dirty even for a much higher salary than the industry could afford to pay. I heard a fruit farmer recently asked that question and he said most of the Brits he has employed lasted until lunch time on day 1. It is a sad commentary on the economies of Spain and Eastern Europe that their citizens are prepared to do it but they are. Agricultural wages are determined by the Wages Board and are well above minimum wage. A good stockman would be offered around £35k plus bonus and overtime.
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Well if I was fortunate enough as a young person to have my choice of jobs, I would rather pick fruit than serve in a burger cafe or on a supermarket checkout.
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Don’t believe a word farmers say , they will have to adapt like everyone else
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Now if our local farmers can’t compete against foreign competition and without using British workers that’s too bad
They can go bust |
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I sold out 19 years ago so have no financial interest these days. But I do know a bit about the state of farming compared to what it used to be when I admit it was quite profitable-only until around 1995. I would prefer to believe a farmer than someone who has never ventured outside the M25 as is true of most politicians.
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Fine, if farmers go bust most of our countryside will return to scrubland and in 70 years to woodland and there won't be any footpaths to enjoy. Many farmers these days are hobby farmers who have enough income from other businesses and enjoy the privacy of a farmhouse so they will carry on if they can find staff. When we sold, four separate people bought the land and all were multi millionaires.
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If a farm is in Britain I expect it to employ British staff, not someone from Poland or Romania or Greece or anywhere else in the world
I don’t care if the farmer claims this is not possible |
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You expect it do you. Do you also expect horse trainers to only employ British staff? You speak as if you are the Tsar of all the Russias.
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I’m not particularly interested in horse trainers either , as long as they employ British staff
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A lot of money in racing , no ?
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companies need to invest more in the modern machinery available,
saw a waste disposal business on tv few weeks back unbelievable in 2020 theynhad dozens of people either side of a conveyor belt picking unsuitable items out, besides been totally unreliable must be terribly time consuming |
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In Britain we have some of the best agriculture land in the world , we have a large home market
That’s all we need |
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that’s correct
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If we need our own farmers that’s fine , if we don’t that’s fine also
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that's also the rights new hero JRM,S view
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Well said esox , although hopefully fish and chips won’t quite so expensive as now
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argentian fish lfc?
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jollyswagman do you know during the Falklands war and indeed WW2 , not a single british person or soldier starved to death
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i didnt know that lfc, is that a real fact or is it something that isnt strictly true but is true nevertheless?
ps i dont think brexit will cause us to starve to death. |
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That’s good indeed and I don’t think about that because this is England and not some other country , like Russia or China or even Argentina that doesn’t have fish
We don’t have to think about things like that in England so I don’t God goes with thoughtless people like us |
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I suspect that a few British soldiers starved in Japanese prison camps.
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lfc1971
15 Feb 19 17:42 Joined: 06 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 31,397 | Blogger: lfc1971's blog jollyswagman do you know during the Falklands war and indeed WW2 , not a single british person or soldier starved to death ^ 3 million British subjects starved to death during WW2. |
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You are wasting your time even reading the drivel that lfc posts, both of him. Simply block him, best thing I ever did on here.
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Blocked him a while back. Blood pressure down ten points. Amazing what cutting drivel out of your diet can do.
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I am sure we are not the only ones!
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3 million British subjects starved to death during WW2..... sorry Trader I'm gonna need a source for this ?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943
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Cheers Trader
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Yes juce, I wouldn't normally bother asking but as it was Trader I knew there would be some truth in it and wanted to understand the detail
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Looks like Trump is going to help old Blighty out by pumping tariffs on EU cars to 25% from 2/3!!
That will throw Germany into recession Should get Frau Merkel's back passage tweaking a bit (what a horrible thought) and force her to have a few words with the fanatics |