Hillary Clinton to run for president again

I admire her optimism.

nothing like going gracefully

I would be amazed if the democrats picked her again they must surely have some younger brighter talents than Biden, Clinton, Bernie etc

She must have a skin as thick as a rhino.

no doubt she will become a progressive champion this time around.

She can run. She won't win though.

Strangely enough, a guy that lost in the recent midterms has risen to near favourite in the race for the democratic nomination, Beto O'Rourke. Personally, I think he would win v Trump quite easily.

Just when you thought politicians couldn't out-stupid themselves any further...

Hilary Clinton is un-electable. Even a primate would not have lost to ginger, and she did!

I really can't see a route to victory for Trump in 2020. Crucial states like Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin which Trump won in 2016 now appear lost judging by the midterm elections. The difficulty from a betting point of view is identifying the democrat candidate, any one of a dozen or more could realistically be in the frame. The simplest thing to do it seems is simply lay Trump on the exchange at around 2.9.

Looking through other states where Trump won in 2016...

Arizona 48-45
Florida 49-48
Georgia 51-46
Iowa 51-41
North Carolina 50-46
Ohio 52-44
Texas 52-43

None of these can now be considered to be in the bag, far from it.

The liberal elite are watching reMayner stitch us up to Europe and fancy their chances of doing the same over the pond.

Errm, stitch USA up to Europe?

Deceiving the people.

Have you been drinking by any chance?

Clinton could defintley beat the fat cheeseburger ,  would be very close again i think

anxious, the problem is that she is a very poor candidate. Virtually anyone else will beat him.

Yes i agree maybe Bernie Sanders or that O Rourke

Have you been drinking and taking drugs by any chance?

Perhaps a cup of tea and a lie down may be in order?

It is the liberal elite with arrogance abounding that are causing the rise of the far right. You just displayed that so well. People look at results and like him or not Trumps are outstanding. The electorate are not dumb and in the dark in the social media age. They are far more savvy to being lied to.

A middle ground party is needed badly at this point to cut out the arrogant dishonest elite on the left and the far right to intentionally improve the vast majority of the electorates lives. Not holding my breath as the over ambitious are generally flawed and most likely to hold power.

Just let me know when you have woken up.

When you say Trumps results are outstanding, I assume you mean the midterm elections?

dems don’t seem to have a credible leader, and no new ideas either

People want less change and less turmoil . Trump should try and improve things slowly and do as little as possible outside America
Don’t even travel , stay at home and he could be re-elected

Trump is a street fighter and able to take on the rich elitist left and change the course of politics. As someone who isnt a fan of wither for different reasons i have been amazed at the lengths the elite have gone to in order to bring him down. It must be the most co-ordinated attempt in political history. They fail to acknowledge that they created this monster. The left wing press and various cheap joke left comedians couldnt speak of him in worse terms yet it is they that have created him by arrogantly ignoring their viewers and the electorate. They say love is blind now we know arrogant elitist left wingers are blind.

Ive never heard such nonsense , why has he in his cabinet billionaires and EX Goldman sachs bankers

Even most of the GOP dont like him , trump is a populist and spiv chancer

Basically Trump is president by default because the other republican candidates were ordinary at best and his democratic opponent was poor. He achieved three million votes less than Hillary Clinton but won very narrowly in key three states that netted him 46 electoral college votes and hence a majority. The republican party results at the ballot box since then have been pretty dreadful, firstly in special elections and more recently in the midterm house elections. They held on to the senate as expected as it was extremely difficult not to.
Trumps personal approval ratings are low and generic swing to democrats is strong.

Though he is a billionaire he is beyond wanting to gain more for himself. That is rare in politics.

Most are in it for themselves and their own personal financial gain with the extreme example being Putin.

That is what the elitist left hate about him the most he can genuinely show then up in achieving things in society which they werent interested in achieving due to their feathered nests. If he was poor and trying to make his way they would not be so worried. He is actually showing them up for all his many faults as he is beyond concerns of personal riches and can actually aim to help his people. He is their creation.

At the end of the day probably any republican candidate would have beaten Hillary.

What have i said about liberal elitist arrogance? Defeat that and tell the truth to the electorate and act in THEIR best interests and you might defeat Trump as well.

There is no "might" about the likelihood of Trump losing in 2020. He is the clear outsider with all bookies.

Unfortunately the rich and powerful are always put ahead of the people by liberal elite governments hence the right wing backlash across Europe. Get rid of the Britpap shoyte and make working peoples lives better. The rich are getting richer and the arrogance remains.

Whilst you may have a point about global elites please spare usthe guff about trump , yes he may not be motivated by money but he is motivated by his own ideas some of which are very dangerous

As long as the arrogance remains, Trump remains.

Trump didn’t care if he won the last election and won’t care about the 2020 election, that is what makes him so hard to beat, he attack’s with venom and to hang with the consequences

I find it bizarre that you think all the bookies are wrong.

Are trying to tell people that governments are rich liberal elites , what about Berlesconi and even the tories in britain

Right wing populism is nothing new , its just being recyled

Presume Trump was strong favourite to gain election originally (?). More arrogance yay it is flowing freely still. 1/7 to vote Remain as well bargain that was. Never underestimate democracy it is there to take a pin to the largest balloon of arrogance.

Trump was 2/1 to win. I bet him.  Leave was 3/1 to win. I bet that too.

That is why the most arrogant are trying to remove our democratic voting rights to be insignificant.

Exactly yet you presu e Trump will lose due to bookmaker prices? Bizarre

You mean like in Georgia, USA?

So then you must want Corbyn to defeat the rich elites in this country then ?

I bet Trump because his opponent was so poor, not because of Trump. I would have bet any republican to win.

Trump is not a career politician, if fact I think he despises them, and will just float on to his next escapade, once this project is done

The left and right do not represent the electorate. They are both public school with no experience of life or have left wing extremist views.

A middle party is needed to place working class people in government. They have more life experience, sense and common decency than what we have now. That is the ideal.

You mean the USA Libertarian party?

You mean people like bulingdon boris and  Rees-Mogg

Brexit without customs union will improve working class and middle class prosperity drastically. Wages will rise and the economy will rocket. Those to lose are the rich as they are at the receiving end. There is a reason every business leader threatens to leave the uk post Brexit and it is because they will have to try harder than just wage profits (immigrant wages) to get their bonuses. I dont care if Rees-Mogg or Johnson are toffs if they want the same.

This will happen unless the arrogant elite and the rich right stop Brexit in its tracks which they are doing their damnest to achieve with their secret EU sellout.

As I said earlier, you are posting on the wrong thread.

Try looking for any thread started by united biscuits, you should be at home there.

Assume he isnt arrogant?

He is interested in brexit.

Isn’t everyone?

No.

So just him then?

No, not just him.

plenty interest and you are definitely on to something re the arrogance a trait which several on here have towards anyone who voted the wrong way for which May is going to give us a good thrashing

to eric  (eric the bee  la di dah )- or was it the fish ??

I did think Eric was a twaite but read his posts again!

Maybe he has a point

I don't like the term Liberal Elites. I prefer the term " Elites ". They represent their children, right or left. Privilege and precedence.

What have the Romans ever done for us? fcuk the poor might be their motto!

I have changed my views since November 2916

Donald Chump was the wrong answer to the right question!

Yes protect the borders but don't demonise people who want a better life for their children

Yes tackle the Chinese over Intellectual Property theft, dumping of steel and various other wrongs but don't start a Trade War

Yes drain the swamp but don't start the process by putting your son in law in charge ffs!

I suggest you look closer to home ,if discussing nepotism in politics.

Hillary is about as fit as Ginsberg ,both of them will either be dead by next election, or rolling in their own p!sh in a nursing home, this might also be the case with the Donald who is not a young man.

lol optimism there from flasher early doors

you are not talking bliar, kinnock, starmer then flush he he he or the whole lot of westmonster and their families in employment within the vile scrum - or the ones who break laws and lie and cover for one another