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By:
posy
When: 16 Jun 17 10:26
I'm a dyed in the wool Conservative however TM is undoubtedly finished and i'm sure plans will be afoot to dump her just as soon as the current political impasse has been resolved and the Brexit negotiations are underway.Unelected leadership coronations have a poor record what with her and Gordon Brown !
By:
Dav_vin03
When: 16 Jun 17 10:36

Jun 13, 2017 -- 10:45PM, akabula wrote:


The terrorist DUP you say WD.Lets look at their leader Arlene Foster.Was 8 when the ira broke into her home and shot her father through the head.The killer was recently praised by a SF councillor.She was 10 when the ira blew up her school bus and she was lucky to survive. Given that background I think it's a testimony to her good character that she is willing to sit in government with SF.Now I'm assuming you knew that and were maybe referring to some other DUP MPs.Care to give us the details or were you merely trying to score a cheap point?


excellent post

By:
TheManFromUtopia
When: 16 Jun 17 21:52
How quickly this saga moves along eh? Can't keep up!  At this rate the question of a DUP deal or not is irrelevant to her own survival.

And the latest in her endless catalogue of catastrophes - her reluctance to meet the Grenfell survivors, apparently because her personal security is more crucial than even The Queen's!  It's surreal that she could be sooo out of touch with the people, reality and common sense. 

Daily she's becoming more of a liability and embarrassment to the Tories.  I can just about see why they originally tried to cut their losses by 'rallying round' her at the 1922 meeting through gritted teeth, not least with BoJo cringingly leading the pack with his full endorsement - but hey, the pre-election buy-off Foreign Secretary job is well worth him clinging onto.

My guess now is that the party will not dare to wait until even Wednesday, while she inflicts yet further damage in the meantime - whatever their current hopes & fears for the DUP deal outcome.  If she still refuses to jump, she must be pushed, and swiftly, in the best interests of the party and the nation.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 16 Jun 17 22:01
Very good post utopia. I think you are right. Now waiting for the first to thrust a dagger into her back!

Coward they called her!
By:
posy
When: 16 Jun 17 22:05
If she stands down with immediate effect then presumably Damian Green or Hammond will step up to temporarily take her place until a contest can be organised;just can't see it happening before Wednesday.
Presumably she's been sidelined and having very little input to the Queen's Speech;expect Gove is playing a main role in drawing it up.
Might need to get riot police to sort out the agitators.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 16 Jun 17 22:14
I can't see her standng down posy. She is deluded. Someone has to plunge the knife into her back. That is the Tory way!
By:
Dav_vin03
When: 16 Jun 17 22:21
she needs to stop listening to advisors and start acting on her own
By:
anxious
When: 16 Jun 17 22:33
She and the Spiv Party have no real power now , thank the Lord for that
By:
TheManFromUtopia
When: 16 Jun 17 23:44

Jun 16, 2017 -- 10:14PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


I can't see her standng down posy. She is deluded. Someone has to plunge the knife into her back. That is the Tory way!


Think I agree WD - except perhaps if she's served up the stark choice of being sacked or 'leaving of her own accord' she might indeed do the latter, as the lesser of indignations on offer.  This is a choice she's not yet had to face.  But then, that would be a sensible person's decision - so very hard to call in her case!  She confounds me every day.

Looks like Hammond for one is chomping on the bit to get his sweet revenge and begin the slaughter, lol.  Pure entertainment!

By:
arbster
When: 17 Jun 17 00:01
She could always stand down with dignity on "health grounds"....... a win-win for all ;)
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jun 17 00:55
I really like her quite a lot.
By:
anxious
When: 17 Jun 17 01:12
You didnt say that the other week lfc , i think you might be losing your grip old boy , perhaps recent events have destabilised your equalibriaum.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jun 17 08:08
: ) well you may be right anxious, I think she is too nice, it can be a mistake to elect someone nice as your leader. She needs someone like Tebbit at her side to help her take the courage to look clearly at how things look like in our cities at present .
Will she lose her job? I hope not, I am a little afraid and a little bit not afraid.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jun 17 08:14
If you are a leader you must not lack the courage to oppress the leftists and liberals and communists in the media and in the streets.
She should not listen to lectures from the likes of newsnights Emily Mailand and the embittered oppressed .
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jun 17 08:20
There have been mistakes made , now either that cladding was used and was legal to use or it was not. That is a very simple matter to find out, was it properly installed ? That should be possible to discover also.
Until then the trouble makers should shut up.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jun 17 08:25
What do we know happened in the first minutes of the fire, what took place then ? That is something that should be focused on . Why have so many people died, it seems inexplicable , but unless we look closely and honestly at this time period nothing will be learnt.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jun 17 08:31
Did the outside cladding contribute , and was it unfit for purpose ? The inquiry will let us know , it seems it was and went up in flames very quickly.
However that could give a misleading impression of a very severe fire, in the outside, but this does not mean it was so severe inside , if the cladding was so combustible it would give a false impression of the true severity of dangers within.
And there may have been time, if a different approach was taken to get everyone out.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jun 17 08:43
now it will take courage and honesty to look at what decisions were made on the ground, at the time, and who made those decisions and why they were made.
Does anyone recall the case , in the past of people drowning while police stood and watched unable to help because of health and safety guidelines ? What are the guidelines ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jun 17 08:44
We need people in organisations who can think quickly , and act bravely.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jun 17 08:46
Practical people, who make the decisions themselves, not being told what to do by superior officers .
That never works.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 17 Jun 17 08:54
Yep, best thing to do when faced with a burning building is just to wing it, not to have any kind of plan. Don't suppose the police had planned for the marauding terrorist attack either.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jun 17 09:02
You need a certain type of person in an emergency, especially in a case like this which is unusual.
It takes someone who is brave and intelligent and practical and can think clearly , not someone sitting behind a desk.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jun 17 09:05
The group must function from within itself.
By:
1st time poster
When: 17 Jun 17 09:07
scots reff
eu reff
ilbdem coalition
general election
dup supply and confidence
5 years fixed parl
boundary changes

all nothing to do ,with doing the right thing for the country but all done to keep the torys in power for as long as possible,their mantra is to hold power no to help people unless your rich or big buisness
By:
grumpyjim
When: 18 Jun 17 09:31
SPEECH TO BE PUT OFF .. UNTILL BREXIT IS AGREED IN 2 YEARS ..  ..
Running on the spot comes to mind .. We go nowhere .. year on year anyway .. so no change at the top ..
Mistakes abound now on a daily basis ..  ...T.M.   Bullied everyone into an election nobody wanted except herself as she slung   everything at poor J.C.   who took it all in no retaliation .. Waiting his chance he was not ready for .. as came too soon .. LOWER LIFE PEOPLE WITH LITTLE HAVE A LOT OF POWER NOW IT IS GOT TO BE USED IN  BEST POSSIBLE WAY TO GET REAL CHANGE .  WE ARE ALL FED UP WITH RED TAPE .. AND VERY POOR DECISIONS .. ON OUR BEHALF .. ?? Knock them high tower blocks down as an urgency ..  Many councils  have done so already .. All be told to follow .
By:
moisok
When: 18 Jun 17 09:45
I think the trouble makers (who ever they are you must mean people asking questions and demanding responses) should be making even more and more noise.
People and organisations have been coming forward and causing trouble by revealing many things wrong with regulations and political ignorance and obfuscation even as long ago as 19 years.
Once councillor was ignored for raising the issues over this black she was also branded as a TROUBLEMAKER.

she was right    -  is this the sort of TROUBLEMAKER you are on about?
By:
moisok
When: 18 Jun 17 09:46
black!!!!   I mean block!!!
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