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She could have said no. It was not a court order. It was a request. Would you chose to defend a child rapist?
She had a choice when this came up. 1. Say nothing about it and then blame the Russians or.. 2. Say 'I am very sorry for laughing about this case. I was working as a lawyer doing my job. I used tactics against the child victim that are now not legal in Arkansas but they were legal then so I used them. Child abuse cases and sexual abuse cases in general are stacked against the victim. Hundreds of thousands of incidents happen in the United States every year yet only a small proportion ever get to court. Once in court defense lawyers are often so hostile to victims that many give up half way through the case. The courage of many victims just to come forward is amazing. I propose a full review of the justice system for.....' You get the picture. If she really believes in womans and kids rights she could use her experience to actually sort this mess out. Instead she smiles like the joker and moves on. Nothing changes for victims. The horrible truth is there is little point in actually reporting a sexual assault as the odds are so heavily stacked against the victim. Lives are ruined every day because of people like her doing nothing. |
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IT you really are scraping the barrel with this one , are you that desperate to have a go at Hilary to post this garbage
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Your a bit like Donny full of hatred and bile
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rofl
It was not a court order recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. |
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rofl
It was not a court order recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. rofl It was not a court order recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. rofl It was not a court order recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order. |
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Let's be clear IT. As an obviously fervent supporter of the rights of victims of sexual abuse ( quite right ) would you vote for Trump if you could ?
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For instance why is she not supporting ending the statutes of limitations on filing rape or sexual assault charges?
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Salmon, I would not support anyone guilty of sexual assault.
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Salmon, have you ever had this happen to anyone you know?
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Statutes of limitations are for states and not a federal matter afaik
Anyway lets get back to FACTS The court ordered her to take the rape case Don't you understand that a judge's order is the same as a court order? |
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Why don't you say the words
"I was wrong about that" You can't, because just like your hero the lying bullying Trump, you just spout nonsense and hope that no one questions you. |
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dave, have you ever had this happen to anyone you know?
dave, could Hillary be pushing a campaign throughout the states to do this if she supports womans rights? dave, what would have happened to Hillary if she had refused the case? Jail? Not allowed to practice law? |
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Oct 12, 2016 -- 3:42PM, InsiderTrader wrote:
She chose this case "Hillary told me she didn’t want to take that case, she made that very clear,” recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order InsiderTrader • October 12, 2016 4:23 PM BST It was not a court order. "Hillary told me she didn’t want to take that case, she made that very clear,” recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order InsiderTrader • October 12, 2016 3:54 PM BST But it seem ludicrous to suggest that the type of lawyer who CHOOSES to take on cases to defend child rapists "Hillary told me she didn’t want to take that case, she made that very clear,” recalls prosecutor Gibson, who phoned her with the judge’s order The court ordered her to take the case, I would imagine that if she told the judge that she didn't want to take the case, she would be asked why. As you agree that Of course a child rapist is entitled to a lawyer. I can't understand how she could refuse. On top of this it would probably lead to contempt of court and Bar Association? disciplinary action for unethical behaviour. |
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Post truth politics from a Trumpista - who would have thunk it.
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Dave,
Hillary was NOT working for the public defender. If you are NOT working for the public defender of course you do not have to put your name forward to defend someone. Even if you are working for the public defender you can file a motion to the court to not represent someone. I am not sure where you are reading a court order for a someone working in a private legal aid clinic to have to represent someone. Have you got a link to this? |
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He hasn't actually answered my question. To answer his yes I know lots of women who have been groped and one who was raped.
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Salmon,
Are you seriously buying into the deflection HC tried? I am not concerned about what Trump said. Be honest. Is that the worst thing you have ever heard anyone say? If he had got off the bus and grabbed the woman as he described then I would not vote for him no. But He did not. He shook her hand. I would challenge anyone over 60 to say they have never in the lives (male or female) said anything about the opposite sex ever they would rather was not played back years later. Have you ever rated someone between 1 and 10? Ever? Hillary said she thinks that is unacceptable. Its just pure hypocrisy in a country where a third of woman watch porn every week for the horror media reaction to his comments. You are being played. Would you personally choose to defend someone accused of molesting a child? I get they have a right to be represented but would you personally do it? If you did it and got the defendant off would you laugh about the case and say the case was interesting? |
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I have never had a desire to be a lawyer so can't really give an answer one way or the other to your last question.
I daresay I have talked innapropriately about women but have never been in the habit of rating them and I haven't got anywhere near Trump's vulgarity in the last 30 years or so. Moreover he said he HAD been going around grabbing women by the p***y. I've certainly never said I had done anything like that because I never have and even in the 70s in the circles I moved in that would have been considered too far even if you just said you wanted to. |
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So you have never heard any of those words before or ever heard anyone saying they would like to do this or that to this person or that person?
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I wouldn't want to be around a 59 year old who talked like that ten years ago. Most of us have grown up by then. And if he did that sort of thing because he could as some sort of reality TV star what is he going to be like as President. Also you keep on about him SAYING all this. He said he DID it. So I take it you would vote for Trump if you could.
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I would not vote for Trump if he committed sexual assault. I would not want to personally have anything to do with someone who talks like he did. Its like people who have never grown up talk.
As I said he did not do what he said he would do. He said better have tictacs incase I start kissing her. As if. He shook her hand. Then Billy Bush told the woman to hug him. Very uncomfortable Bush doing that. Trump was doing nothing apart from shaking her hand. Did you watch the full video? I find it amazing that people have let this takeover their minds. So so weak to be taken in. You have literally hundreds of things the Clintons have done. She is at home sleeping between the debates. I think she has 2 events today then one tomorrow then a week off before the next debate. Does that not worry you at all? Trump has rallies of 20,000 and she cannot even talk to more than a hundred people in a school gym then have a week off. There seems to be no concern that behind closed doors her team have different policies to what they say in public. They support Wall Street self-regulating, they laugh at Catholics etc. |
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Captain Wurzel - That is superb.
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IT - he's said thats what he DOES not just what he's intending to do.
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Dave,
Seriously is that your evidence! what a waste of time. Sorry but that is not a court order. It is a description of phone call request from a judge. Quoting Gibsons recollection of events 30 years later saying the judge requested Clinton from the list is not a court order. Her name must have been put on the list for her to even have been considered. A lawyer has a right to reject a case if there is another lawyer who could do it. There were 6 women on the list. The defendant also have no right to have a woman lawyer. She could have said no. She could have refused to do it. She would not have been forced to take the case unless she was a public defender - which she was not. She must have put her name on the list to accept such cases to even have been considered. From your article... “She was vigorously advocating for her client. What she did was appropriate,” said Andrew Schepard, director of Hofstra Law School’s Center for Children, Families and the Law. “He was lucky to have her as a lawyer … In terms of what’s good for the little girl? It would have been hell on the victim. But that wasn’t Hillary’s problem.” And this is my main point. She says she is a big promoter of womens and girls rights and yet she was on a list to defend a child molester and put a little girl through hell. She wanted to get further in her career. That was her motivation for winning. |
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rofl
you have been caught talking blatant nonsense and as predicted you would refuse to accept your error. As is typical of the useful idiot beloved by the populist politicians. As time moves on history will treat you and your fellows with the utmost scorn. |
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Dave,
sorry but there was no legal obligation for her to take that case. Say what you want but that story you linked to was not a court order. The judge requested Hillary off the list that she must have put herself on. I really dont think you have a clue how the system works if that is your evidence. Show me the evidence for law that she had no choice. Not a quote from someone. Show me the protocol evidence that Hillary would have been 'disbarred' as you put it for refusing the case. btw have you read any of the latest batch of wikileaks today? |
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/10/donald-trump/trump-says-clinton-laughed-about-rape-case/
Now if this is to be taken on face value (if you dispute it-disprove it by all means), it is grossly unfair to even suggest she was laughing 'at' the child. In fact it ought to be grounds for prosecution qagainst Trump for slander but I would guess that would not be political protocol at this point of the campaign. The American people to some degree have stated they are caught between two candidates they don't want and that would likely lose to any run of the mill candidate. I cannot out of hand condemn Clinton as I haven't looked too deeply into the contenscious issues but Trumpisms are spewed out by him directly all too often. If I had to choose one over the other despite real reservations (as many americans have) - no question, it could nor should it ever be Trump. |
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*could not nor..
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dave1357 • October 12, 2016 9:38 PM BST
As time moves on history will treat you and your fellows with the utmost scorn. Well dave wins for the most stupid and funny comment of the day. |
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Here is a video with audio and transcript of an interview Hillary did about the rape case. She says she took the case as a favour to a prosecutor which the interviewer comments as being "odd." All in all she seem to be rather amused and intrigued by the whole thing with the her recount of the case bringing her to laughter on a few occasions.
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I see InsiderTrader posted a video from a news show which shows part of the Interview. The video I posted above is just the whole interview with transcript on the screen. Laughs at 1:50 and 4:54. Hilarious.
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#wikileaks
"We need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia," Podesta wrote to Clinton. He added the two countries were: "providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region". Guess who else the Gulf states of Qatar and Saudi Arabia give money to? The Clinton Foundation. Hard to see how Hillary can be taken seriously as an exponent of women's and lgbt's rights when she takes money from places that don't have such a crash hot record when it comes to the rights of said groups. |
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more from the Clinton campaign- #Podesta2
In an exchange between Podesta and Bill Ivey, Ivey told Podesta, “as I’ve mentioned, we’ve all been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry.” Ivey also stated in the email that “The unawareness remains strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly. This problem demands some serious, serious thinking – and not just poll-driven, demographically-inspired messaging.” Ivey bemoans the decline in complacency with the system as everyday Americans are beginning to realize that the current system does not benefit them in the slightest and is made to benefit the richest Americans, often referred to as the “1%.” To emphasize, Ivey admits that the left has ‘conspired’ to “produce an unaware and compliant citizenry” but that they’re not as easy to manipulate anymore and that this is a problem. He characterizes “unawareness” amongst the public as a positive thing for the Clinton campaign. Ivey ends the email by saying he will attend a Clinton fundraiser and that he fears, “we are all now trying to navigate a set of forces that cannot be simply explained or fully understood.” |
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I have listened to the 'interview' in part. Forgive as I'm sure you've stated your view on it back in the thread but what is your take on what was said ?
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US Election 2016: Trump 'groped woman like an octopus'
dReadful man walking ! |
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nugget-Guess who else the Gulf states of Qatar and Saudi Arabia give money to? The Clinton Foundation. Hard to see how Hillary can be taken seriously as an exponent of women's and lgbt's rights when she takes money from places that don't have such a crash hot record when it comes to the rights of said groups.
Trump also was a donor of said foundation. |
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Not anymore now he knows more about it
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So Trump donated to the foundation so that makes it ok for Saudi Arabia and Qatar to fund i.s? or excuses their treatment of women? makes sense
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Trump probably got approved to build something then, if you can't beat'em join'em
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