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KingKennyRules
01 Jul 16 22:50
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Hardly a mention on the bbc or itv news, they seem desperate to put Gove up against Teresa May. The market says different. Leadsom is still a decent bet at 4.6 as I think the momentum will inevitably begin to grow.
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Report PorcupineorPineapple July 4, 2016 7:51 PM BST
If you're stupid enough to think either of those things would ever happen, you condescending, mouth-breathing, sanctimonious pr!ck, then you're more stupid than even you seem.
Report OnePercenter July 4, 2016 7:52 PM BST
+1
Report CJ70 July 4, 2016 7:54 PM BST

Jul 4, 2016 -- 7:51PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


If you're stupid enough to think either of those things would ever happen, you condescending, mouth-breathing, sanctimonious pr!ck, then you're more stupid than even you seem.


Yeah, because knowingly publishing libelous information on public forums will be laughed off.

You really need to grow up.

Report CJ70 July 4, 2016 8:42 PM BST
BoJo backs Leadsom. Price should drop when that hits the markets.
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 4, 2016 8:56 PM BST
A natural fit. Both of them were in favour of staying in the EU till it was politically expedient for them to "change their minds".






nee-naw, nee-naw...uh oh, cj's called the libel police.
Report CJ70 July 4, 2016 9:02 PM BST

Jul 4, 2016 -- 8:56PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


A natural fit. Both of them were in favour of staying in the EU till it was politically expedient for them to "change their minds".nee-naw, nee-naw...uh oh, cj's called the libel police.


It's cool to throw libels around because you think the law doesn't apply to you, right?

Report PorcupineorPineapple July 4, 2016 9:06 PM BST
I'd say on the list of potential libel cases for saying Leadsom and Johnson wanted to stay in (erm, there's proof) and they changed their mind for expediency (arguable) then they might have to wade through the several thousand on twitter and various newspaper sub-article comments before they turn their eyes to a betting forum.


Anyway, wibble on.
Report CJ70 July 4, 2016 9:12 PM BST

Jul 4, 2016 -- 9:06PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


I'd say on the list of potential libel cases for saying Leadsom and Johnson wanted to stay in (erm, there's proof) and they changed their mind for expediency (arguable) then they might have to wade through the several thousand on twitter and various newspaper sub-article comments before they turn their eyes to a betting forum.Anyway, wibble on.


Oh dear. Desperate stuff.

Unfortunately you are just another one in a long line of people who doesn't understand the Internet. Just because you are sitting behind a screen doesn't mean your anonymous and laws don't apply to you. Libeling people because your upset that they don't agree with you is the quick way of getting yourself and the servers you post on in trouble.

The answer is to grow up or start using your brain. Potentially both.

Report PorcupineorPineapple July 4, 2016 9:16 PM BST
Honestly.




condescending, mouth breathing, sanctimonious pr!ck.


How do you function in the outside world? Seriously. Make sure you check for monsters before mummy tucks you in later. Sheez.
Report CJ70 July 4, 2016 9:18 PM BST

Jul 4, 2016 -- 9:16PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


Honestly.condescending, mouth breathing, sanctimonious pr!ck.How do you function in the outside world? Seriously. Make sure you check for monsters before mummy tucks you in later. Sheez.


Not fancying growing up then? There's a surprise.

Report zorrostrikes July 4, 2016 10:13 PM BST
i like her - and i hate the Tories.

she sounded like a human being instead of a self loving tool.
Report Geesyerdosh July 4, 2016 10:46 PM BST
I think Gove isn't out of this and his price could look huge. When push comes to shove I'm not sure the other Tories will see Leadsom as experienced enough and despite Gove's antics they'll have more confidence in his abilities.
Report posy July 5, 2016 8:08 AM BST
I don't knowingly have many/any Socialist friends so my acquaintances and friends come from a fairly narrow section of society.The general view seems to be Theresa May just shading a majority from Andrea Leadsom. What particularly surprises me is the poor showing from Gove even though he's our mp. Interesting that Leadsom has attracted support from some amongst us who voted Remain. It seems to me she's modeling herself on Thatcher ;I'm not sure the country really wants or needs such firm leadership !
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 5, 2016 9:03 AM BST
How much of Leadsom's popularity is that she's blocking Gove from making the final 2?
Report sean rua July 5, 2016 9:31 AM BST
One thing's for sure, whoever wins will be dirty, and not a bit of good for the working class.

Note King Boris getting nicely back in the picture behind leadsom ( the new thatcher).

m. gove - SNEAKY MICK -  is a liability with his greed and drinking problem, BUT , where will his backers switch to, when he crashes out?

Laugh
CJ666 makes us laugh! The eternal tory supporter and btfr policeman and censor boy. Crazy

In the past, he has denied being a tory, yet he has inside info about these con &U candidates.
Report anxious July 5, 2016 9:48 AM BST
The ex banker spiv leadsom  been backed a bit now 2-1 , mother may 4-9 fav still and mickey the backstabber out to 12s , what a shower the spivs are knifing each other
Report CJ70 July 5, 2016 11:25 AM BST

Jul 5, 2016 -- 8:08AM, posy wrote:


I don't knowingly have many/any Socialist friends so my acquaintances and friends come from a fairly narrow section of society.The general view seems to be Theresa May just shading a majority from Andrea Leadsom. What particularly surprises me is the poor showing from Gove even though he's our mp. Interesting that Leadsom has attracted support from some amongst us who voted Remain. It seems to me she's modeling herself on Thatcher ;I'm not sure the country really wants or needs such firm leadership !


I think both May and Leadsom are looking to be Thatcherlike.

YouGov Con members poll last night showed May beating everyone in a run off currently. Leadsom beat everyone else. Of course that is always going to change as media recognition increases.

Report CJ70 July 5, 2016 11:26 AM BST

Jul 5, 2016 -- 9:31AM, sean rua wrote:


One thing's for sure, whoever wins will be dirty, and not a bit of good for the working class.Note King Boris getting nicely back in the picture behind leadsom ( the new thatcher).m. gove - SNEAKY MICK -  is a liability with his greed and drinking problem, BUT , where will his backers switch to, when he crashes out?CJ666 makes us laugh! The eternal tory supporter and btfr policeman and censor boy. In the past, he has denied being a tory, yet he has inside info about these con &U candidates.


Your posts are getting more bizarre by the day, sean.

Report salmon spray July 5, 2016 11:44 AM BST
It's going to be May v Leadsom. Not sure which way the members will go as I'm not a Tory and can't think like them. I don't find Leadsom at all impressive personally,whereas May,though I don't like her,has looked Prime Ministerial material to me for some time. She did back Remain,though about as warmly as Corbyn,but that is surely balanced out by Leadsom's enthusiastic endorsement of the EU just 3 years ago.
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 5, 2016 12:17 PM BST
I was going to ask if anyone knew if the below quote by Leadsom was true, but I've just checked Hansard and there it is:


"I urge the government to look carefully at scrapping the entire burden of regulation on micro-businesses with, say, three employees or fewer. I envisage their being absolutely no regulation whatsoever - no minimum wage, no maternity or paternity rights no unfair dismissal rights, no pension rights."




Great stuff. Now we've got the EU out the way with their awkward regulations protecting the working class's rights we can get back to our main objective of ensuring businesses can exploit their staff to the full while lining their own pockets.

If she's wanting to come across as a new Thatcher she's off to a flyer.
Report OnePercenter July 5, 2016 8:56 PM BST
Leadsom's price has gone out.
Report CJ70 July 5, 2016 9:01 PM BST

Jul 5, 2016 -- 8:56PM, OnePercenter wrote:


Leadsom's price has gone out.


Both Fox and Crabb endorsed May.

Report sean rua July 6, 2016 9:11 AM BST
The new thatcher.

Which of the three old women , do ye want, lads?

A vote for ewe-krap is a vote for thatcher.
Report OnePercenter July 6, 2016 9:29 AM BST
I am balls deep in Teresa May Laugh
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 6, 2016 9:41 AM BST
Emperor Murdoch's instructed his minions to stick the knife into Leadsom so she's toast.
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 6, 2016 9:43 AM BST
Just had a little bet on Gove at 18.0. Got to be some value in that.
Report OnePercenter July 6, 2016 10:49 AM BST
Why is everything a Murdoch conspiracy? The value in Gove is minimal.
Report CJ70 July 6, 2016 11:42 AM BST

Jul 6, 2016 -- 10:49AM, OnePercenter wrote:


Why is everything a Murdoch conspiracy? The value in Gove is minimal.


Not sure. I wouldn't be backing at 18's but there seems to have been signs of tactical voting by May supporters to inflate the Gove figures in the first round. If that's prevalent in the second round I expect Gove to come down to a similar price to Leadsom in a run-off.

May really needs to get a run-off against Gove or things could go pear-shaped. Tactical voting to get Leadsom off the ballot will go down extremely badly with the members.

Report PorcupineorPineapple July 6, 2016 11:44 AM BST
Have a look at The Times and The Sun* today. Two editorials and plenty of coverage raising doubts as to her suitability due to lack of experience, dodgy cv and more dodgy statements.






*Not that I've looked at this rag obviously
Report salmon spray July 6, 2016 12:22 PM BST
Gove has no chance with the members as he has always been seen as too nerdy and he stabbed the darling of some of them in the front.
I agree Theresa's lot would be silly to vote tactically to get him on the ballot paper. I don't think they need to as Leadsom seems a bit odd to me and when did being a banker for a long time suddenly become a " good thing " btw.
Report sean rua July 6, 2016 12:55 PM BST
CJ666,

are ye sure ye are NOT a member of the con & U party? Ye denied it before, but I note that both ye and SS ( nu-labor) both wish to speak on behalf of conservative and Unionist members.

Btw, whichever of the three old women we get,
she will be a failure.

The problems are far more deep-seated.

Failure to face up to Reality and getting well-paid for it, like , say, a.blair, ( nu-labor criminal), can bring great personal wealth, but
it does not solve basic problems.Sad

The working class has to suffer bc of folk like these.
Report posy July 7, 2016 9:04 AM BST
Come on sean about time you dropped all this class war guff. The working class to whom you are referring are so early/mid 20th century.....the world has moved on leaps and bounds and these poverty stricken, put upon workers nowadays have cars,foreign holidays,50" televisions,smart phones and most importantly houses. They have a standard of living and opportunities their grandparents could never even dream about.What's given them so much...Capitalism.
Report anxious July 7, 2016 10:20 AM BST
So just because they have a tv and a car and go to Greece once a year they have everything , this again is the simplistic nonsense of the Spivs,they fail to mention the NHS falling apart , schools crumbling , local authority cuts butchering social care ,zero hours rip offs , the richest 5 per cent owning nearly all the wealth of this country and the foreign owned right wing media cheering them along
Report wildmanfromborneo July 7, 2016 10:28 AM BST
The problems in the NHS,in housing,in your schools and in your GP services is down to immigration.

Theresa May is Home Secretary and under her watch it didnt go down to the promised tens of thousands it soared yet she seems to have escaped any criticism.
Report OnePercenter July 7, 2016 10:32 AM BST
NHS falling apart? Where? Where else in the world do they get free healthcare as good as the NHS?

Schools crumbling? Are you kidding me the local state schools near me have all weather sports pitches. The schools trips are to the Caribbean.

Social care was piss-poor under Labour.

The Daily Mail is owned by a UK citizen not a foreigner.
Report anxious July 7, 2016 10:40 AM BST
1 percenter I don't know where you live but if you think the NHS is not crumbling away ready to be privatised then you are in cuckoo land, the school fields sold off by thatcher to build supermarkets, the social care system where the elderly are left with a second class service and bed blocking, this leaving many people left to care for their elderly family members alone ,
Report anxious July 7, 2016 10:43 AM BST
Not to mention the despicable mental health system where patients are shunted from one part of the country to another to get treatment yes Tory Britain is wonderful if you've got the money to be fleeced
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 7, 2016 10:53 AM BST
The problems in the NHS,in housing,in your schools and in your GP services is down to immigration.


Oh my god, tell me your tongue was rammed in your cheek when you wrote that. Please.
Report sean rua July 7, 2016 11:02 AM BST
Pineapple,

I think ye'll find that one comes from our resident, Tipperary -based
anglo-phile, zenophobe, and IMMIGRATION CONTROL PLATFORM activist,

Mr Wilde - the new Lord Haw Haw. Sad

Another great disappointment for our land.

His daughter, however, is a migrant, resident in England. Or so he told us.

For some reason, he usually denies the migrant bit.

'Tis all a bit double-standard-ish, and would go down very well in both the currently squabbling con & U party and the nu-labor party.

He'll be on shortly to

a) deny it all

b) get his fellow ultra-conservative activists to get my posts censored.


   And, so, the pantomime rolls on.Grin
Report OnePercenter July 7, 2016 11:28 AM BST
The NHS is not crumbling. Neither are schools. Stop repeating the drivel you read in the Guardian and Daily Mirror.
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 7, 2016 11:45 AM BST
I think crumbling/failing is pushing it massively but there are significant issues and migrants form a microscopic part of it, and in fact, are helping then in terms of their tax/NI spend and work in both sectors.


As an indication to how the government is in fact at the head of all this, dig deep into yesterday's news. While all eyes were on Chilcot and then the footy, Jeremy Hunt quietly slipped out that there would be no more discussions with the BMA and he would impose contracts on junior doctors, while the education secretary's pick for Ofsted boss (someone from one of the new-fangled academies) was quite hilariously blocked for having little relevant experience.

If it wasn't for the usual self-serving nature of it all, then the sheer incompetence would be quite funny.
Report sean rua July 7, 2016 11:55 AM BST
hunt is a total ....

Here is another figure from a poster:

"ONE PERCENT  of the National Budget goes to the EU"

Makes ya  wonder what all the fuss was about. NB means for UK.

The same dude who paid for the poster said:

"330k migrants = 0.5% of the population."
Report wildmanfromborneo July 7, 2016 12:00 PM BST
Sean Rua I have instantly objected to the removal of your posts.
I have opened threads on here objecting to the removal of Tony57 posts,i like and encourage differing opinions.

Migration is only a problem when it brings people's incompatible with the culture.
It also has to have a limit.

Here are some simple rules that might solve the problem.

No welfare whatsoever for migrants.
Any migrant breaking any law is deported.
No pregnant women let in ( that would prevent the Lagos shuttle )
No one sick let in ( that would stop all those HIV infected gentlemen )

If some doctors and nurses come to work fine but don't give us this guff that they are propping up the NHS,they are not doing it voluntarily they are paid.
Report OnePercenter July 7, 2016 12:40 PM BST
The schools are fine even with the forever striking teachers kids are still getting fantastic grades at GCSE & A-level. Sure some kids leave school with next to no qualifications but at the end of the day no matter how good the school is if a kid and quite importantly the parents do not value education then there is little the teachers or the school can do.

The NHS was created to treat broken bones, TB & give immunisations. back then if you walked in with cancer you were going to die. Now it offers fantastic treatment for all kinds of previously terminal conditions. Sure it is always looking for more funds but then again it is always looking to treat more conditions.

I just wish the left would stop knocking our wonderful education and healthcare but then again maybe that is all they can do, moan.
Report PorcupineorPineapple July 7, 2016 12:49 PM BST
And I'd love the apologists to realise things can be made much, much better than they are and glorying in the relative mediocrity in which we now sit is what makes the idea of "Great" Britain so laughable.
Report The Shiekh July 7, 2016 1:19 PM BST
Hope she gets in gives some clarity and move on from the undemocratic bullying eu
Report anxious July 7, 2016 3:25 PM BST
The Left created our wonderful National Health Service , its the Spivs who trying to destroy it.
Report sean rua July 7, 2016 4:47 PM BST
Fk all democratic about the 1922 Committee or a. leadsom.

At the General Election, DODGY DAVE scored the biggest majority for the tories for ages; he is still the nominal PM. He was voted in by the ELECTORATE of the state ( UK).

a.leadsom has a good chance of being the new thatcher: she has the funding from ewe-krap.

---

Wilde,

do ye accept that your daughter is a migrant in England?

Are ye saying no welfare for her or what?
Report OnePercenter July 7, 2016 5:22 PM BST
The left may have created the broken bones, baby birthing, TB and immunisation service but it is the Tories who have funded and organised it.

Look at what happened under Blair, Mid Staffs. Look at what is happening in Wales, people coming over the boarder to England rather than dying on Welsh waiting lists.
Report sean rua July 7, 2016 5:27 PM BST
One percent,

there are some parts of Wales that have no acute hospital; the folks have to go to England.

That's OK for the brexiteers: they believe in the UNITED kingdom.
They voted for ewe-krap and got the new thatcher.

I agree that the english will have to sub them now that they turned their back on all the EU money that keeps them afloat.

Obviously, england will have enough probs of her own, and will be unlikely to sustain the debts.
Report anxious July 7, 2016 5:27 PM BST
1 percenter you only have to heat Thatcher speak and you knew straight away= On the day I want, at the hospital I want, with the doctor I want. Spoken like a true Spiv.
Report The Shiekh July 7, 2016 6:45 PM BST
Get someone in to speed up the leaving of the eu
Report wildmanfromborneo July 8, 2016 7:50 AM BST
Sean Rua.
My daughter was not a migrant,she was born in Berkhamsted and still lives there.

I suspect neither you or me are migrants either.

It was a point I made to you many times when you were talking about Irish migration to Wolverhampton in the nineteenth century,none of them were migrants.

Nor were all those Irishmen who went to England in the fifties and sixties technically immigrants.

This is not a denial of my Irishness just a statement of fact.
Report wildmanfromborneo July 8, 2016 10:24 AM BST
How are the distinctions bogus ?
You just can't grasp the concept,which is extraordinary because you were a beneficiary of it.

This is a discussion forum,we discuss politics its an exchange of ideas,you seem to object to me discussing world events on the basis of where I live.
When you scratch a bit deeper we find you to be a typical intolerant liberal afraid of differing views.
Report mobo July 8, 2016 10:45 AM BST
prime minister!!??  I didn't even think women had the vote.  What a silly idea
Report sean rua July 8, 2016 10:56 AM BST
moby Laugh

"a.leadsom has to learn on the job" they say.

Like myself, I don't think she's into this gay "marriage" stuff.
Report sean rua July 8, 2016 10:57 AM BST
moby,

will I be one of the millions who have to get out?

Or, one of the millions who have to come back?Laugh
Report wildmanfromborneo July 8, 2016 11:17 AM BST
Unbeknowns to yourself Sean Rua you have just hit the nail on the head about immigration.

When you arrived in Britain in the sixties you went to work,if you failed to get work you relied on your family or the Church for help.
You didnt get welfare.

We now see thousands of Roma swanning in demanding not alone welfare but immediate health treatment.
All those polygamous Imams are on the dole and in receipt of a house for each wife,that's unsustainable.
Report anxious July 8, 2016 11:26 AM BST
So now we learn that the odious ex spiv banker leadsom campaigned for no minimum wage, no unfair dismissal rights,no maternity rights etc for workers in what she described as small firms, im sure if we dig deeper in her anti- gay marriage views and her bible thumping every sunday we can see the same old greedy penny pinching selfish unpleasant moralising spiv worshipping garbage that's in all of them
Report ZenMaster July 8, 2016 11:54 AM BST
Small businesses will not employ women of child baring age anxious, how could they?

Margins are small enough without having to pay for maternity absence.
Report salmon spray July 8, 2016 12:26 PM BST
Leadsom has been unexposed until now. It looks as though she has a few skeletons in her closet.( not that she's in it of course ). May has been Home Sec for 6 years. No serious dirt on her has emerged. She was not an enthusiastic Remainer and is an experienced negotiator at a top-level,which we desparately need. No-brainer to me but I am not a Tory member.
Report anxious July 8, 2016 3:56 PM BST
I note again more posts taken down , the majority of the posts pulled on this thread are anti- spiv ones
Report mobo July 8, 2016 3:57 PM BST
I like working it out 'on the job'  yum yum!!!
Report salmon spray July 8, 2016 4:18 PM BST
I am most derinitely NOT NuLabor sean.
Please apologise at once.
Report Racingqueen July 9, 2016 8:56 AM BST
The only problem was her reaction. What she said was spot on. She should have come out and defended her remarks.
Report sean rua July 9, 2016 9:13 AM BST
Laugh

Where is my post gone? Censored again.

How can we debate properly when a large proportion of my replies are censored and removed?Confused

""
When you arrived in Britain in the sixties you went to work""", said Wilde.


In my reply, now removed,
I explained, in passing,that I actually arrived in GB in the fORTIES.

I gave some background information to set the context.

ALL REMOVED BY THE CENSORS.

Why?

I can only conclude that the ultra-conservative extremists on here detest even innocent details of the truth.Sad
Report sean rua July 9, 2016 9:14 AM BST
Imagine that sort of people bearing arms, as in the USA.Sad
Report sean rua July 9, 2016 9:17 AM BST
a.leadsom has innocently blotted her copybook in the dirty tory war to be the new thatcher.

Ridiculous nonsense from the blue-rinsers, imo.

( that will get censored, I guess).

The real issue is what about everybody else's kids?
The original thatcher had kids , BUT, was not renowned for being anything like a good mother.

Her politics were pretty bad too, imo.
Report salmon spray July 9, 2016 9:19 AM BST
As the father of 9 or is it 10 illegitimate children by 6 different mothers I consider I have strong claims to be the next PM      Wink
Report sean rua July 9, 2016 9:30 AM BST
Happy

Whatever about that, SS,

the decision does not rest with ye, but with the members of the con &U party.

As I keep saying, the A Team rule.

A vote for ewe-krap was a vote for thatcher.

I said it before, and I say it now.

Obviously, the ultra-conservative activists on here will censor and remove my message.
Report wildmanfromborneo July 9, 2016 10:40 AM BST
I hope you were brought over as a child Sean Rua.

I once again object to the inane removal of your post,It can't be the moderators it has to be someone who has perfected a way to get posts removed.
It seems to be done solely to irritate.
Report CJ70 July 9, 2016 10:47 AM BST

Jul 6, 2016 -- 12:55PM, sean rua wrote:


CJ666,are ye sure ye are NOT a member of the con & U party? Ye denied it before, but I note that both ye and SS ( nu-labor) both wish to speak on behalf of conservative and Unionist members.Btw, whichever of the three old women we get,she will be a failure.The problems are far more deep-seated.Failure to face up to Reality and getting well-paid for it, like , say, a.blair, ( nu-labor criminal), can bring great personal wealth, butit does not solve basic problems.The working class has to suffer bc of folk like these.


Your post are getting increasingly bizarre, sean.

Report salmon spray July 9, 2016 10:51 AM BST
I hope he means the 1940s.
This removal of posts is odd. It happens occasionally on HR which is the only other forum I am on regularly,but you can usually almost anticipate which posts will be removed there. As sean says it's becoming almost random on here.
wildman may be right that somebody has found a way to get posts removed. A few years ago some chap found a way to churn out usernames at will which did not depend on being linked to a different account. Beyond me but I suspect something on like lines is possible if you are good at that sort of stuff.
Report Dr Crippen July 9, 2016 10:58 AM BST
^Or simply a moderator making mischief?

That would have to be favourite in my book.
Report salmon spray July 9, 2016 10:59 AM BST
I suppose that could be it Crippen. Must be a pretty boring job.
Report Dr Crippen July 9, 2016 11:38 AM BST
As regards the recent claim by the lady that people with children might have a greater instinct to make the future that they leave behind more secure.
That seems a perfectly reasonable suggestion on the face of it.
For what do most people strive for if not to make life better for their children?

Nevertheless it cannot be taken as a blanket assessment of childless people in high political circles.
For don't all politicians want to be remembered in a good light anyway?
Report unitedbiscuits July 9, 2016 11:49 AM BST
Marina Hyde in great form today.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/09/andrea-leadsom-tory-leadership-am-dram-peasant-revolt
Report wildmanfromborneo July 9, 2016 12:01 PM BST
Marina Hyde the Myra Hindley of journalism.

The whole article is a sneer,its great watching these so called feminists hating women who don't have their views.
Feminists should say we want equality for women but they must have a certain view.

Childlessness is relevant,most childless people tend to be selfish,not out if badness out of practicality.

The worst decision made this century was a selfish one,it was done so a politician could feel good about herself.
It was Germany's decision to break EU rules and open its borders,it was made by a childless woman,Angela Merkel.
Report Dr Crippen July 9, 2016 12:03 PM BST
Exactly Wildman,

Too negative. Strictly for the loony-left
Report salmon spray July 9, 2016 12:19 PM BST
Oh come on wildman. Childless people tend to be selfish. So Blair,Cameron etc aren't and Mother Theresa ( not May ) wasn't ?
Silly generalisation. A bit like your take on Muslims. A pity because you strike me as a decent enough bloke who isn't a fool. But the bees in your bonnet.......
Report anxious July 9, 2016 12:25 PM BST
The main point against the spiv leadsome was her attempt to stop the minimum wage , unfair dismissals and maternity leave from  workers , this shows behind all the gossip and witchery lies the true fee market fanatic who would stop at nothing to implement another failed Thacherite project on our country.
Report wildmanfromborneo July 9, 2016 12:29 PM BST
It is a generalisation,I obviously don't mean all.

The man who did irreparable damage to Britain forty odd years ago was selfish,he joined the then EEC on dreadful terms solely for his own place in history,he loved being fawned on by European bureaucrats.

Ted Heath was childless.
Report wildmanfromborneo July 9, 2016 12:30 PM BST
Mother Theresa did dreadful damage in the third world with her vigorous anti contraception stance.
Report Whisperingdeath July 9, 2016 12:50 PM BST
hearing childless couples on the radio describing their hurt is breath taking. Imagine no electricity, no shops, no food, gunmen killing people indisrciminately, families and friends being killed in front of you and beside you! Andrea is so mean!

Having said that she fell as they said into an Elephant trapLaugh!

Quite frankly who cares who we get? I am not sure how it will pan out. We will continue to be ignored and the 1% will tighten their grip. I hear Goldman Sachs has appointed a former EU President ( Barroso ) as Chairman of International Business. Can we expect more QE?
Report sean rua July 9, 2016 12:53 PM BST
Thanks for the different views on the censorship, lads.
I can't understand it.

I think leadsom knew perfectly well what she was doing, but it will not make her popular. That might not matter with the con & U party.

Their previous thatcher had kids but was a pretty poor mother by many accounts, even from some of her kids.
That said, even these heinous monsters are still human at the end of the day.
I was told that thatcher was seen crying when one of her kids got lost in the desert or something. Didn't see that myself, but
I did see footage of her running away crying the time the other conservative and yunionist henchmen stabbed her in the back and dumped her.
This was only days after her saying " this lady is going nowhere" or " No, no, no" or whatever.

All tyrants meet their waterloo, eventually.

In our own culture, 'tis not the done thing to make fun of handicapped folks. Belittling those unfortunates who cannot have kids is a pretty poor way to go on for anybody hoping to take over running DODGY DAVE'S "BIG SOCIETY", imo.

Anyway, in this society, even gay men can adopt kids, so I don'y know if the old family values apply any more.

Also, among the english, there is a terrible history of cruelty and murder of kids by their own blood parents, so not sure if many care any more.Sad

A storm in a teacup, imo, but with these tories anything is possible, imo.

What is sure is that a vote for ewe-krap was a vote for a new thatcher.Cry
Report posy July 12, 2016 9:06 AM BST
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A lot of rubbish been spouted on this thread.The reality is that the FTSE is at its highest level 6577 since September last year and
lets be clear Theresa May is going to win the Conservative leadership election.


posy knows his stuff
Report sean rua July 12, 2016 9:22 AM BST
Yep, ye got that right, posy!

The A Team won again as per usual.

Did ye know at General Election time, or on INDEPENDENCE DAY 23 JUNE 2016?

may is DODGY DAVE's new thatcher, and probably the best man for the job.

I can't see her doing much about immigration. She failed on that one as Home Minister. She also said PRE-REF, that 'tis "[b]inconceivable[/b]" that the BORDER ACROSS IRELAND will not have to be strengthened.Sad

Judging by the general views of the policy-less brexiteers on this ultra-conservative forum,
I can't see her getting far with that.
QUITTERS are QUITTERS.

Anyway, professional politicians promise alsorts; I wouldn't be surprised if little gets done at all. Bigger problems will threaten, and she'll be able to divert attention to some war or other.Cool
Report anxious July 12, 2016 9:43 AM BST
Sean I know you think its pointless but who is your money on Jeremy or the flying Eagle
Report ZenMaster July 12, 2016 9:48 AM BST
More of a gargoyle than an eagle.
Report posy July 12, 2016 10:15 AM BST
Of course I didn't know at the time of the election however she was my preferred choice partly because i'm very much against finance directors becoming managing directors and whilst I liked Osborne as Chancellor I certainly didn't want him as PM. 

It's going to be very interesting to see who she appoints to the great offices of state as this will give a clear indication as to how and what she wants to achieve in the next four years. My hope is that Fallon,Hammond, Grayling and Rudd get top jobs but certainly don't want to see that creep Liam Fox returned to the cabinet.
Report cryoftruth July 12, 2016 10:37 AM BST
You liked Greasy as chancellor??

How can you like someone so ghastly?

Even his own right wing back benchers eventually got fed up of him attacking the poor,sick and disabled, getting rid of his last budget in a few hours.
Report anxious July 12, 2016 10:43 AM BST
What a shower of  wretched toads the Spivs are , horrible and rotten to the core
Report Burton-Brewers July 12, 2016 10:52 AM BST
they're filth anx they've been taking tips off your lot
Report anxious July 12, 2016 11:09 AM BST
We are decent people most of the time , we do not do backstabbing and hypocrisy like the Spivs and your mob
Report Burton-Brewers July 12, 2016 12:41 PM BST
hey anx was it you that put the brick through Eagle's window? nasty people you associate with
Report ZenMaster July 12, 2016 1:13 PM BST
Probably the same people who threatened Farage and his family
Report Burton-Brewers July 12, 2016 1:26 PM BST
that is small fry now Zen as the police have confirmed both he and 2 of his youngest kids have had death threats, and 2 people had been quietly arrested at 2 leave rallies who were carrying knives in their coats.
Report ZenMaster July 12, 2016 1:29 PM BST
Yet James O'Brien on LBC continues to suggest Farage is just paranoid.
Report ZenMaster July 12, 2016 1:31 PM BST
He keeps referring to the wheel bolt situation, rather than the most recent incidents.

No doubt Farage has had to check under his car for many years.
Report sean rua July 13, 2016 11:01 AM BST
Is nige back yet?

Surely, the dude who declared "INDEPENDENCE DAY" 23 jUNE 2016 cannot be a thing of the past after just a few days after this "momentous" event

AND

YEARS BEFORE the english ever brexit?

Like nu-labor, ewe-krap couldn't run a penny bun stall. The A team of Capitalism are just p ing down their backs and laughing all the way to the bank.

clinton, merkel and may: that's your rulers.Laugh
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