Theresa May favourite as next PM

Fair points.

Also she has been Home Secretary for nearly seven years and failed to curb immigration,I don't think she has the stomach for it.

Lasting that length of time at the Home Office has been a tremendous achievement and without doubt she's the right person to become leader of the party and prime minister.

She and Boris are favouring the 70/30 option on immigration.

Allowing those with a definite job offer into the country for a period of time, giving them a NI number. This is estimated to be 70% of migration.

However there must be a visitor/holiday/roaming pass as well, and this will allow job hunters in as well.

Gove just thrown his hat into the ring.

Theresa as usual very impressive.

She is a shoe in.

O wattana Siam


Dorris was around 1.8
May was around 5.4

Just after Cameroon took his ball home.

I knew the knives would be out for Dorris and May would be regarded as a safe pair of hands.

I think she will make a good Prime Minister. Dont know how popular she is with the wank and file though but pretty sure they will want to remain in power and she if without doubt the safest bet.

Did not have the bravery of Boris and Gove, she will not have the courage to make the hard decisions if she becomes leader.
cannot be trusted.

Just had a great gag though 'last time Boris went to negotitate in the EU, he came back with three water cannon' Rats in a sack, loving it.

Boris and Gove have apparent 'promises'  to uphold, Theresa May will calm the waters.

she has failed in every job so far, and will fail as pm. We need someone on the far right of the party.

BoJo been done up like a kipper by Gove-a hitherto supporter of his
welcome to the back stabbing,internecine world of party politics
odds on yesterday..now out to 11/2
not a prayer of getting it now

she has failed in every job so far, and will fail as pm. We need someone on the far right of the party.


Too toxic and they will want to move away as far as possible from Faragism.
They will want to reassure the Remain side.

Not my preference, but this is what will happen.

I am very worried they are not going to stop free movement of people which is what England outside London voted for.

I admit backing May when she went off the radar but I think it would be a disgrace if a remain politician gets the job. Labour MPs also support remain. What a mess and it will only hand more power to UKIP.

Your fears will come true IT

Free movement of 'labour' will continue, with some adjustments i would imagine.

Time for Farage to get busy, how will the working class take this?

The overwhelming majority of Conversatives backed Brexit. I just pray they do not fall for this when they vote. If its Gove V May when it goes out to members they must realise that May is going to be much weaker on introducing a points based system. In the home office she has failed to bring down non-EU immigration.

We need to take a clear move now to sort this issue out before UKIP take hold of it.

Theresa May has a disqualifying feature,one I hate to bring up as it could be a source of great sadness to her.

Angela Merkel, her predecessor who's name escapes me,Ted Heath,Harold Wilson all had this same feature.

I think it breeds selfishness,it means not thinking of the future.

They were all childless.

Mistress Teresa May currently trading on here at odds-on to win.

In the last few evenings I've heard several Tory grandees inform us that the favourite never wins a Tory Leadership Election. (They've obviously forgotten Major wining a few days after he resigned it in '95).

Back or Lay ?

Lay TM all day, Andrea Leadsom is the value here

How will she get into the final 2 with Boris and Gove for the Brexitiers?

The overwhelming majority of Conversatives backed Brexit.


The Tory majority was for Remain IT.

185 for Remain
138 for Leave

Or even conservatives

Conservative voters and membership. The MPs on all sides supported remain as they are out of touch on immigration.

Boris not running.

Looks a straight fight between Theresa May and Michael Gove.

I see your point it, but the polls suggest support for TM.

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/06/29/theresa-may-storms-ahead-boris-among-tory-party-me/

A new YouGov poll of Conservative Party members for The Times confirms that among the membership, Theresa May is even more dramatically ahead, attracting 36% of support from long list of potential contenders compared to Boris Johnson's 27%.

Boris drppoed ou?

Obv that poll needs updating now. haha

ffs

Boris dropped out?

Proper Conservative Principles being adhered to here

The one the struck the blow never wins the prize!

This is getting better and better.

I would really like to see Leadsom come up on the rails. Can't see it but it would be great. Can't stand Gove. Just like a school prefect. Slimey backstabbing little wimp. I am also highly delighted Dirrs got stabbed in the back, shadenfraude bloody beautiful!

.PING.
The true reason for the ref becomes apparent to even the most delusional brexit supporter.........

May 1/2 now for the prize.

do tell spyker? I suspect you are unhappy with the referendum result.

My outsider is a.leadsom.

King Boris has delayed his enthroning, which will come after brexiting gets in a big mess.
Luckily, my bet has a ten year time span.
Early days yet.

Btw, where is smith? He must be lurking there in the shadows some place?

Leasdom looking like second fav now

Maybe not

leadsom is clean,may is the snoopers charter women

Is she?

The worse possible selection for everyone will be the gay-er - he already discredited himself.

I still wonder why smith is hanging back?

gove couldn't even push through his education sh it; he won't get much in Brussels.

They need the other tssr, carswell.

I doubt they ever intended brexiting in the first place.

They are all dodgepots, whatever they do.

The fact that she did take part in the referendum campaign is not good. If we pick her we may as well of kept DC. Amazed to see Chris Grayling supporting her and now talking down immigration. Talk about empowering UKIP.

Leadsom was a brexiter I believe, IT.

May kept her head down, like smith is doing now.

King Boris didn't step up to the plate; probably never thought he'd get put on the spot.

gove and fox are so horrible that even the new organisation that replaces nu-labor may give the fkrs a run at the General Election.

Who knows? These lads have the inside track, but, in reality, they haven't got a scooby as to how to proceed.

Just back from walking my big slobbery dogue de bordeaux and had been preparing a wee item where I would make a case that the maximum of one of the quartet of Johnson, Gove, Leadsom and Fox could get on the final ballot paper.  Johnson is a buffoon, good for pr, nothing else. Gove is slimy but capable though can't be trusted. Leadsom was impressive in EU debates and could surprise. Fox is a chancer who has no possible hope of winning.
Home I come and Boris has packed it. Can see Gove and Leadsom mp supporters cutting each other up with Fox damaging both slightly.  Final ballot prediction May v Crabb.

The Referendum was held because David Cameroon made a Faustian Pact with the Devil and the Devil took his soul! and that's the truth!

Maybe Chris Grayling has been offered the job of running the Brexit department in government if May wins. I thought he was the least good of the Brexit cabinet ministers.

Worrying times for the Conservatives imo. If this bunch is the best they can muster, the future looks bleak.

If Labour can rustle up a semi credible candidate to replace Corbyn, this could be a great opportunity for them.

I presume the " gayer " Sean Rua is referring to is Liam Fox.
The Smith he keeps referring to must be Ian Duncan Smith.

Ian Duncan Smith has had his chance,won't run.
Liam Fox will have little support.

Its going to come down to a fight between a Brexiter and a Remainer.
Boris tested the water,found he had no support among his fellow MPs.
Michael Gove tested the waters also and found he had substantial support.

Crabb is only trying to heighten his profile.

A fight between Michael Gove and Theresa May ending sadly with a victory for May.

Gove is completely unelectable. Less than no chance.

I don't Gov is liked by the membership and had to be removed as Education Secretary because of his unpopularity. I think he might be a marmite politician in and out of parliament. I think it will end up as May v Leadsom with May winning.

Won't put money on it, too many weird turns in the Politic markets, makes Wolverhampton all weather horse racing look simple!

So, wilde, are ye like your beloved nige, already throwing in the towel about this brexit nonsense?

It ain't over yet, bruv.

These devious bstrds have ruled for centuries; they no the score.

So do I; I know they are good for nothing.

Ye'll find out the hard way, it seems.

t.may won't achieve much, imo. She is a dour fkr like ould thatcher.

Immigration and emigration is on the rise as we speak.

they know the score.

Sky have shown two clips of Michael Gove saying under no circumstances would he want to be Prime Minister. In one interview he said he would write it down on parchment in his own blood that he didn't want to be Prime Minister

Robert Burns "To a mouse"

Burns' original...
   
Wee, sleekit, cow'rin, tim'rous beastie,

Translated!

Small, crafty, cowering, timid little beast,

He must have had Gove in mind all those years ago.

Insider trader - I've been saying for a month that this would be the result of a brexit as not one of them had any sort of a plan for the aftermath. To not even know what model of membership you want (or is even preferable) when this has been an issue for so many on the right for so long is scandalous. These people are running the country and have played the nation (esp brexiteers) for fools ffs and I will now sit back and watch this '2 for the price of 1' farce unfold and laugh with the rest of the world at the new Banana Republic of Great Britain. We will emerge from it but are we going be a vastly improved country from the one we would have been at the same point? Hmmmmmmmmm
Wildone (sic) - don't bother with you usual reply to me old bean , there's a good chap.

Well done, spyke!

There's nothing worse than these turncoat "working men" siding with the rulers agin their own people.

Your only weakness is that ye haven't seen through the useless nu-labor party yet.

If ye really want a good new system. join us and work for TRUE SOCIALISM.
'tIS REVOLUTIONARY, but we see time and time again that reformism doesn't work.

Whichever tory wins the PM job, they will achieve fk all but further increase their ( the tory and nu-lab MPs) huge pensions and perks.

Then the fkrs have the gall to chat about democracy and taking control!

Fk sake, Whitehall will be working overtime for at least five years to sort out this mess. Fkn bureaucrats!

Spyker the thing is they are not running the country.

In fairness there is an element of chaos at the moment.
They need to expedite the Tory leadership contest.

Sean Rua also makes a fair point about the Bankers and Corporates not accepting this result,money men aren't concerned about democracy.

My pipe dream is for Nigel Farage to hammer out a deal for ye.
I know some of ye hate him but he's a genuine English patriot who has the welfare of its people as his prime concern.

spyker 30 Jun 16 12:55 Joined: 09 Oct 07 | Topic/replies: 5,755 | Blogger: spyker's blog
Insider trader - I've been saying for a month that this would be the result of a brexit as not one of them had any sort of a plan for the aftermath. To not even know what model of membership you want (or is even preferable) when this has been an issue for so many on the right for so long is scandalous. These people are running the country and have played the nation (esp brexiteers) for fools ffs and I will now sit back and watch this '2 for the price of 1' farce unfold and laugh with the rest of the world at the new Banana Republic of Great Britain. We will emerge from it but are we going be a vastly improved country from the one we would have been at the same point? Hmmmmmmmmm
Wildone (sic) - don't bother with you usual reply to me old bean , there's a good chap.

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The plan is a red line on immigration. An Australian style points system for all. This means we cannot do what Norway and the Swiss do. It has to be more like the Canada deal but it is actually a deal for the UK. All deals are different. This is with the EU. Then with NZ, Oz, India, Brazil, China, Canada etc we can also do good trade deals. I dont think you can of being watching the campaign. No one suggested OUT would be a deal that allowed from movement of people.

With it looking like May could be taking over I feel DC should have stayed on and done the Job. If she can have Brexit department he could of as well.

Only we can do this... appointing a staunch EU cheerleader as PM! How much can you water down a referendum result?

Gove and May are two good candidates, both of whom have upset some nice cosy public sector vested interests and hasn't been the usual catastrophic Home Secretary that generally goes hand in hand with the job.

I'd prefer Gove, but Mistress Teresa would be my second choice.

I read on here 20 different views of what people want (some of which make perfect sense) and I don't think it's different amongst those that are going to decide the fate of this country. May's speech was good but still, go back and watch when she was questioned on immigration, she spluttered a bit and remember that she is the woman whose responsibility it has been to control immigration while it has risen so much - her answer? Stop exactly the people we need to encourage  - young, fit well off (students) from coming here just to massage the figs!
Wild - Farrage ended any hope of any sort of role in anything much with that speech and i think even his people realise that now. The biggest donor (who has some explaining to do about how much was spent possibly) has said he should think about leaving now.

Theresa May has plenty of courage and when she's elected you can be sure of one thing.....she will do what Mrs T bottled;that is sort out the police force.

Gove is my mp...he is too much like Keith Joseph;an excellent back room strategist but no chance of becoming prime minister
Fox  allegedly likes young men and there's something of the night about him...unelectable
Crabb  is looking for a big job in next government...will be first knocked out
Leadsom  the dark filly;hard to gauge her support but a very bright cookie...could see her becoming home secretary

Thatcher again?

my arse is still sore from the last time we had a tory woman.

May cant win with the membership,gove should step aside let Leadsom bt may with the members, who Leadsom is sterotypical.